Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Churches, the legacy ones , all use the quick fix, safer human systems of State attachment and heirarchy.Ed Miller, who triggered the 1950s Argentina Revival which evangelist Tommy Hicks fronted , stated often that we should always distrust a church that looks too much like it's got it all together. We are blessed with a summarised exact story line of the 12 disciples and the early churches , especially Corinthians. However that all said, the three big heirarchy classifications endure because they have a mix of teaching , a form of common worship , a sense of the mystery and contemplation space where people can be quiet and reflect, leading to and including communion /Mass, and each having no small amounts of help ministries into the local communities. It should never be underestimated the centuries of service that have changed the shape and atmosphere of nations in which these churches have been a part. On the negative side, most of Jesus ministry as He was anointed to model, speak and bring in Kingdom as represented by the first Church , was addressed to Jews who already had nearly all the same qualities of these types of heirarchy church. A simple prayerful readthrough of the gospels and letters and Revelation would transform each of the heirarchies over night as a lot of their practices faced the actual scrutiny of the scriptures. The Big heirarchies don't preach in public, don't attempt to reach normal people through crusades, but instead demand that the unbelievers come rather to the churches. Different sections of the heirarchies are more evangelical in their beliefs, that is they do actually preach John 3 and Romans 10 about the mechanics of being born again. However broadly,the heirarchies do not preach the three keys of the Kingdom given to Peter and that he spoke out plainly on the first day of the church in Acts 2. Repent , be baptised in water , be filled with the Spirit. In some way that is not clearly visible , the main infrastructure of heirarchy blocks the Revival Presence required for many many people to become Christians. This is referred to in the sentence , if I be lifted up from the earth then I will draw all men unto Me. This is a reference to the Melchizedek psalm 123 quality in the way Jesus Himself runs His Church. It's a simple equation . If we see crowds streaming in , we know Jesus is running the Church manifestly enough for outsiders to perceive.
I went to a church yesterday to take someone who wished to go and I observed some of the deception of pastor led churches . The deception is that the pastor themselves only wants or thinks they want freedom for the congregation .
By entering into the deception of king pastor , it is very very similar to how our mind operates . Our mind usurps the position as lord of the manor like a jumped up butler . A king pastor usurps the position of Christ as Head of the Melchizedek order . In a secret unexpressed codependency contract(checkout Don Franscisco song about Uncle Sid) the congregation agree to 'push the pastor up the mountain while they remain below .' It reveals itself in the praise as if there is an invisible membrane beyond which the congregation won't go. It is very real the phrase ' Behold I stand at the door and knock '. Jesus really does.
The answer isn't to remove a pastor and just have what people call elders like Quakers . That just leads to mushiness . Why ? Because they aren't thirdlevel third stage of growth people either , as in 1 John 2. David's mighty men had already done things . In psalm 84 there is a sequence....from blessed is the man whose strength is in Thee....up to when they are revealed before God in Zion .
We can't fake ecclesia . We have either got zöe life or we haven't . If we haven't we don't panic we just know we have to fall like grain into the ground a bit more and let God raise us a fruit bearing plant .
Currently ministry training talks about a minister living a good moral life outside , a bit like the apostolic instructions from Peter, James and Paul. But Peter ,James and Paul also twinned that with spiritual phrases like Morning Star , let him ask for wisdom , and Romans teachings . These guys had the stuff . Seminaries and current churches are highly questionable .
You would choose every angle imaginable ,to DO AWAY WITH GOD .
No really .....not just remove God as a subject on earth , but quite literally try to do away with the Creator . Tajana Cekic does not quite go this far , but Kim Goguen has mentioned it and a friend said somebody that did CERN related work at Portsdown Hill here said that they were trying to raise entities from under the earth , as well as using time itself to find a way to destroy God . Since Book of Job describes Satan going into the Presence of God in Job 1, that would seem an enormous waste of effort with an immortal Almighty Being . What I do know as a tax payer I had no say whatsoever in CERN using 13 billion of our money to build it, any more than the all the current warring with nations.
The people do not believe in either democracy or higher still , their inalienable rights as humans sufficient to stand and make known their will. This is more than protest . It means rising in responsibiliy and not let a pyramid of men or whoever they are , determine what goes on here .
If nothing else this clip is a reminder to research CERN yourself .
Sure there have been individuals like Madam Guyon who have written early of the ' tricks of the trade ' of human living in Christ .
But never a movement across all the earth .
Sure also , this was where our New Testament began . This is what Jesus was really preaching and leading others into . That's why the 30 silent years of Jesus life. That's why the disciples had to be allowed to take their Genesis 3 independent self walkies in the prophesied scenario of Judas.
The 11 could have stuck up for Jesus ....but they had to be permanently marked for the rest of their lives by their allotted version of sin in the flesh .
Today , wishy washy charismatic young man stage Christianity had to be caught redhanded permanently damaging their 6000 year old God given DNA, while denigrating the others warning them as 'conspiracy theorists '.
Great megachurch pastors and influencer churches had to fall to begin in earnest the Jacob generation seeking the face of the God of Jacob psalm 24.
We can't build on Genesis 3 lying platform .Humanism does not work.
We can't just be born again while continuing in duality . Evangelicism does not work in life , so people drop the Adamic mandate and any hope of overcoming here on earth for a Martha type non engagement ......it'll be alright when Jesus returns.
Charismatic Christianity does not face Genesis 3 down either ....sin doesn't give up. Sin doesn't say I see you are all praising God , I will leave you alone
Genesis 3 like the hobbits ring , literally has a mandate of freedom to operate . Mordor appears as soon as the ring is on . There is no independent self .....Bob Dylan told us .....you gotta serve somebody ....or as earthen inert claypots be animated by God or the devil .
There is no middle man .
The evil of the charismatic movement and Pentecostalism is they won't come clean on Romans 6 and how utterly complete was the victory and the severing . They love the ring .
Even facing Mordor and Mount Doom they will not leave the ring .
Satan ,even leading worship in glory won't leave the ring .
But it's at this time when gross Darkness covers the earth Isaiah 60 says that this permanent Light arises . It is unique to our times.
Part Two
Christianity is extraordinarily like Peter stepping out of the boat . It is a faith and Spirit life .
I think its a miracle whatever quartile we are principally .
I think Spirit life may be hard for the main leftbrain people, the Lukes . I think Spirit life is hard for the
Mark quartile natural lovers of mankind ....the helpful ox or calf or cherub faces as we read of the Living beings scanned across humanity . They do all this in the flesh and don't think they need God and marvel at the other three quartiles and how unloving they are .
I think Spirit life capital S, is hard for John types who are born curating spirit . But in the flesh they have no distinguishing discernment for which spirit and are driven equally by both God and fallen deceiving spirits .
I think Spirit life is hard for Matthew types who are hard wired in the flesh to solo pyramid organisation with them at the top benefitting.
Tabernacles roof with holes and four equal co functioning 'wood' types or Living being frequencies is another ball game .
But so is stepping out on water , you have to believe the water is rising up to support you . There's not a lot of physics to support it .
It is interesting that Nehemiah's 12 Jerusalem Gate sequence has these gates halfway through. Gate 6 Fountain Gate Baptism in the Spirit
Gate 7 Water Gate the walking in the flow of the Spirit .
Now baptism in the Spirit is offered on Day one as we repent and are baptised in water ....but the whole ecclesia must learn this walk as church .
Going into our inner room ....shutting our door to the former ' separated ' belief system of Genesis 3 and going to meet with our Father in secret.
Doing 1 Corinthians 12 stuff ....this is all training our eye to be single . To only do what we see the Father doing . All very psalm 123 stuff.
But this is us going through the Water Gate as ecclesia .
The envelope of the local church's reach increases greatly .
Gate 8 is the Horse Gate or effective prayer warfare ....the Prayer of Agreement
Gate 9 is the Eastern Gate.....the Front Door for multitudes.....and no not for Jesus entrance yet . He wants somebody to marry !!!
Gate 10 is the establishing of the rightful elders gate .
Gate 11 is a double anointing gate ...the Gate of Ephraim .....the New Anointing which Morris Cerullo ministeref on .
Gate 12 is not our gate of choice , but it is so powerful.....can you get this without being prison depressive ? The Prison Gate is fundamentally in the Spirit .....whether it manifests in bars and cells . The best description is Jesus words to Peter ....when you are old you will be taken where you would not wish to go .
Think of Jesus whole sequence from Gethsemane onwards .....culminating in the ultimate prison of Prison whipping , Cross and 3 days in a tomb .
Thats a tight spot . But explosive in the Spirit .
And He just walks out and gets mistaken for a gardener ." Oooh Jesus that must have been a nasty rosebush you were cutting , eh ?"
The first Face book post as a written post , then below a Facebook Live
The New and Living Way in Ecclesia
Jesus Way is to start where we are and lead us through a path that seems wiggly, but is bang on for bringing us to glory .
Acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will make straight your paths .
Once we acknowledge that what looks straight in the world's eyes , is only a pyramid control matrix that used to typically give a worker a gold watch and may be a works pension for decades of human energy in man hours .
Kingdom values us properly . God roots us to a course that trains and builds us for eternity.
I began this post to say that God doesn't begin with infrastructures but builds us with faith so we we grow through the infrastructures .
The Ephesians 1.10 final infrastructure is left tantalisingly mysterious because :
It is a hidden corporate Person rising in our hearts .
God is forming ecclesia worldwide ....those are the leaven of righteousness passages that leaven the whole lump.
It's like two leaps out of Darkness : we are not higher animals , we are spirits that have souls in bodies . But unlike New Age and Eastern faiths , we are not relating from our already virus bound nature with principalities and powers in the second heavens , deceitful spirits and ' guides ', we are coming to the Cross that killed that whole Adam spirit , recreating us in our original authenticity but in Christ in God .
Being born again and baptised in the Spirit blasts us into that reality .
Ecclesia is a weekly foretaste of that reality as we are the only people on earth gathering solely in the Name of Jesus .
We are the Pillar and Ground of truth of those braving this new Kingdom completely off Genesis 3. This is our practice realm of Jesus Kingship .
That is what 1 Corinthians 12 church is .
Training our psalm 123 single eye .
Its not mooshy woohoo...trying to be religious ...it's discerning real life ....God is the only source of what is REALLY GOING ON ..
We start where we are .
For a while with solo priests , vicars and pastor kings , until enough local elders are thirdlevel and their eyesight is good enough to ' oversee ' together .
Paul describes 14 different types of ministry .
The Crown of 12 stars seems to cover every aspect of the reign of Jesus and somehow it's interlinked in about 12 personalities ....
So we have juries of 12
And two elderships making 24 before the Throne .
Jesus formed His church that way . Ed Miller and Jorge Pradas formed Bible House communities to do that ....but still ....like even Rees Howells Bible College ....it might produce 12 solo firecrackers ...but not those who have gone into the ground enough to find each other n the Spirit .
This is thirdlevel Melchizedek ministry as described in Jerusalem church and 1 John 1.
John 7.17 says if our will is to do the will of the Father we shall know the doctrine whether it be of God .
People who are not united by this will drive will have disputes with doctrine....but doctrine descends from heaven because we are seeing the Lord . In His Light we see Light . And the more so as multiples of 12 different personalities , or more , find each other . We can't do this stuff and Genesis 3 has 6000 years cultural l attachment in our souls , allbeit we are totally new spirit creations and our spirits ARE our main identity
Part Two .A Facebook Live which really centres in on what we mean by the House of the Lord .