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Is Facebook Church and the internet valid asks Jonathan Brennemann ?

 

Jonathan Brennemann asks 

Are Facebook and the internet valid ways to have "church?" They aren't perfect and may lack a few things, but many people receive more of what church is supposed to be on the internet than in "church services."

Churchianity is concerned more with appearances than with the heart. It's concerned with people "finding a pastor," but the Bible is concerned with pastors finding the lost sheep. It's upside down. The Bible is concerned with people actually being pastors, with real fellowship, relationships, life, not just appearances. Churchianity is often concerned with spectator events, hierarchies, and titles.

Churchianity doesn't understand that "walking alone" isn't always a sign of rebellion. Curry Blake said, "If you're going to walk with God, at some point you're going to have to walk alone." The apostle Paul said, "Everyone abandoned me." There was a time he had to walk alone. Jesus said the people were like sheep without a shepherd, not because they didn't have religious programs or leaders, but because those leaders were abusing them, not shepherding them. Paul said, "I have nobody like Timothy who genuinely cares for you."

So it is possible for people to be immersed in churchianity, have their "pastor," their "church" programs, and be lonely and like sheep without a shepherd.

I love face-to-face interaction, and I think it's important to seek it in some way. The early church met around a table, not around a sermon. The communion meal is one of the scriptural essentials and teachings of Jesus, and it's hard to really have what that is supposed to be without face-to-face interaction. Also, the laying on of hands is one of the foundational doctrines of Hebrews 6, and it happens in person.

But how much of what the Bible teaches actually happens in a typical church service, and how much happens on the internet? Communion happens maybe once a month and isn't really a meal in most cases in the church service. You can't have it as a communal meal online, although you can eat a wafer and drink a shotglass of grape juice on zoom just as you can in a church service.

The one-another commands? Teach one another, instruct, confess your sins, exhort, encourage, love...very little of that happens in the typical church service. The church functioning as the body of Christ as described in 1st Corinthians 11-14? Barely at all! I've never been in a church service that embodied all 1st Corinthians 11-14 describes. There's a big difference between Biblical Christianity and churchianity.

Many people experience far more of what is supposed to happen in the body of Christ on Facebook, Zoom, and online venues than in church services. When I moved to Brazil as a missionary, most abandoned me, and I found fellowship online.

I've experienced far more teaching each other, encouraging each other, confessing your sins to each other, exhorting one another, fellowship, seeing godly examples, godly counsel, and functioning as the body of Christ over Facebook than in any religious institution. Many have the same experience.

Really, ALL of the people who inspire and challenge my faith, I am connected with over the internet or in some other way, not in a local institution. Even when there are people whose life is a godly example in the local institution, the constant programs and busyness aren't a good context to allow people to see that example.

I see far more testimonies in one day on Facebook than I would hear in a year in most institutions. I have probably a few hundred friends who heal the sick and preach the gospel. Some of raised the dead. Every day, I see friends posting testimonies of deafness healed, the blind seeing, the lame walking, cancer gone, paralysis healed, sometimes the dead raised. I share more of God's word and testimonies and do more to encourage others on Facebook than I could in a local religious institution. If I want godly advice, the people who I feel I would like to talk to are are not in a local church. Many are on Facebook or WhatsApp. And our relationship is mutual, not "You're my pastor."

I have experienced far more miracles, words of knowledge, healing, and most of what is supposed to happen among us as the body of Christ over the internet than I feel would be possible in any local institutional church.

If I want edification, testimonies, good teaching, I go to YouTube and find there what I don't find in any local church. I watch a Jesus Encounter Ministries meeting, or listen to Curry Blake or Dan Mohler...

I believe it's ideal to also have face-to-face fellowship in some way, not necessarily in the way churchianity prescribes. But can we also have church over the internet? Is it valid?

Of course it is! Didn't Paul disciple and teach people through his letters? Were they not valid because he wasn't present face-to-face with them, even though he wanted to be?

I am aware of many people finding Christian fellowship primarily on the internet. Sometimes people immersed in Churchianity are judgemental of those who find fellowship online and not in their programs. But instead, they should be humble and realize that their programs are not edifying people, and what is happening in their programs is mostly not how the Bible says the body of Christ is supposed to function. People are going online to find what is lacking in their religious institutions!

I have both face-to-face fellowship and an extensive connection to the body of Christ worldwide over the internet. We have miracles happening all over the world, salvations, deliverance, godly counsel, repentance, exhorting and encouraging one another, and most of what is supposed to happen in church over the internet. And most of that is NOT happening in the religious programs.

People immersed in Churchianity think something isn't healthy in my life because I don't think in terms of "What church do you go to?" but in terms of relationship and healthy interaction with the body of Christ. I don't think in terms of "so-and-so is my pastor," but in terms of eldership, godly example, mutuality, relationships. They think I need help and correction, but I consider them to be living in spiritual poverty when riches are available, because they are experiencing very little of what church is supposed to be according to the Bible.

They think my relationship to the church isn't healthy, but I think that in most cases, it's far more healthy, involved, and extensive in almost every aspect than theirs is!

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My reply

YES but what is church ? Rabbi synagogue or ecclesia ,the word  God uses .

Id like to put this up on my blog.....because the questions stir people to see what God says .
You are using the same word church all the time but describing what is all over the world which is one rabbi synagogues then comparing that to the Biblical word and practice of ecclesia .Ecclesia is a very accurate word .
Called out peer group....which as I write this it dawns upon me that the devil has done the same with the word peer ....the Peers in the House of Lords is now the very opposite from what peer group means .

Ecclesia as you know is a called out group in Greek for political administration purposes,  but God uses it to get over the idea of
Gathering for His purpose....
Worshipping together and all the activities described by Paul , but with a Divine form of legislating also in the Spirit .
A declaring of the psalm 149 judgments written
A ruling as Paul says in the Spirit " Would that you were kings ." The breadth of ruling in the Spirit is called the Crown of 12 stars in Revelation 12.1.
As yet theres only beginners versions of many  things manifest with baptism in the Spirit .
I keep referring to the Bible and how the OT 12 elders came into being , and the NT elder apostles came into being through Jesus .
I keep referring to conferences of 3 to 5 days where we might see some or all of the three 1 Corinthian 12 diverses in action .
Because falling into the ground like grain ....
Because becoming like little children....relearning everything Proverbs 3 .6 but this time inside the whole of life exchange at the Cross Galatians 2.20
Because of the Abide in My Word  .....Truth ....freedom sequence

If people go through the New and living way of the Holy Spirit uprooting Genesis 3 independent godhood in my soul we quite literally come into the reign of God ....that is the Kingdom . That is the facing of the three control hooks the devil has in our being in the Lords Prayer ....money /supply /food / needs
Relationships in the form of not being bitter but forgiving
Pulls to do what God isn't doing....not necessarily overt sins either .

The life of God breaking out in a soul starts finding others in this freedom......thats what a bunch of conference speakers are but only for a few days .....that has to find local permanence as an ecclesia in a location. As long as persecution will allow.

The block everywhere is that different people types can't read each other . That's the 1 Corinthians 12.14-26 barrier both Jacobs sons and the apostles had to crash through .
Our human juries only last during a court procedure because people can't really stand each other Cross spectrum .
In the flesh these friction are called party spirit and schisms .
So thats what God is fixing to have all over the Earth like Acts Jerusalem church .
Its been done but its supernaturally accomplished. If we persist in the New and Living Way that's the City on a Hill , Light on a Hill effect  of the Word we are believing upon .
The pastor rabbi teaching centre isn't what a local ecclesia is . Its in the meaning of the word ecclesia .
This is what Bible Houses were training us in .....but we didn't have the articulation of Romans 6 to 8 yet until Norman Grubb .
This is the soul transformation process of which the born again baptism in the Spirit process is the exchange of the spirit man in the outer courts entrance to the inner courts at con version ......now in the holy place this is a transforming of soul . We don't exchange our soul ....Its just a vessel .....so it was subject to the devil.....now its being made subject to our new born again spirit which Colossians 3.3 in Greek says is intertwined like rope ( English hidden ) with Christ .
All this plus anointing produces what the 12 apostles were living together in .

Tabernacles the Feast is a series of open plan stable relationships.
In the Spirit its the 1 John 2 father realm where by now the Holy Spirit has brought forth some Christ in their soul and psalm 84....reveals them before God in Zion ....like conference leaders . But this should all be local if we obey the whole gospel.....not the cheapskate one leader version which doesn't PROVE Kingdom.

Jacobs sons
The 12 apostles
Were an early ' proof ' of Kingdom and still are because they are the 24 before The Throne .

Church Instructions

 

My reply to Charlie Shamp on Lake and Hicks

Post by Charlie Shamp 

There is a price for glory.  

Not money. Not talent. Not charisma.  

But the raw currency of hunger; the kind that drives men to lock themselves away until heaven responds.   

In the dead of night, an angel met a desperate man. John G. Lake, once aflame with the Azusa Street revival’s fire, now wandered streets haunted by the absence of God’s glory. The divine messenger from heaven manifested and spoke to Lake, 

“The glory has left. But it will return to ANY man who pays the price of Acts 1-2.”  

For nine months, Lake vanished. No sermons. No crowds. Only a bedroom, a Bible, and a broken heart. When he emerged, hell itself recoiled:  

- Lepers grew new fingers as he prayed.  

- Bubonic plague (then called “Black Death”) withered under his microscope.  

- 625 churches erupted across South Africa in five years.  

- Spokane, Washington, became America’s healthiest city after 100,000 certified healings.  

How?  

Nine months. Nine months. Nine months with God! 

Tommy Hicks watched peers like A.A. Allen and Oral Roberts move in miracles; while he remained ordinary. Until he snapped.  

First 40 days: Fasting. Screaming. “GOD, WHERE ARE YOU?”  

Silence.  

Second 40 days: Emaciated. Defiant. “SHOW ME YOUR GLORY OR KILL ME.”  

Silence.  

Third 40 days: A skeletal man bargaining with eternity.  

Then: 

An angel named Healing Rain crashed into his room and spoke, 

“Your prayers stormed heaven’s throne. I’m assigned to you until death.”  

Argentina’s dictator, Juan Perón; a skin-cancer-ridden tyrant mocked Hicks:  

“Heal ME first.”  

Power exploded. Perón’s face healed. Stadiums overflowed. 3 million souls saved. Cabinet members wept as they kneeled 

Heaven’s waiting. Hell’s trembling.  

Who will pay the price to birth REAL REVIVAL?!

________

This is Insufficient for this reason. 

My reply. 

________

No no no no no no no

This is why this is all one flask of oil . Matthew25

This is precisely why Masons could prevail against Lake's work so easily. 

This is exactly why Elijah could be sent into a dizzy spin by Jezebel after the fire. 

If this is your idea of life in God read your Bible again. This isn't Kingdom . This is but human petulance. Give me power or I die .

This has nothing whatsoever to do with the 30 years of Jesus and His 42 months with the disciples.....nothing whatsoever. Its just screaming for power and temporary supernatural moves of God .

God is obliged to answer humans . He gave us the earth . But who will actually do the will of the Lord? The calling of the importunate widow at an unearthly hour is in the storyline somewhere , but so are all the other chapters in the gospel .

John wanted to call down fire upon a village . James and John were called sons of thunder. 

The Mark quartile holler and holler for mercy and helps. I know from experience thaf it would have been all Jesus could do to shut John Mark up for 42 months while the real apostolic foundation was being laid .

These guys holler in a different way but when they get their own way " helping other people " we see 150 years of Salvation Army and absolutely nothing changes. .....they go round with an ambulance picking up the fallout of the next of Evils policies but stopping absolutely nothing .

None of this emaciated yelling out for Jesus power does anything other than fill Argentinian stadiums . Jesus honours human will . He has to . He gave the earth to us but nobody is any nearer the Son of Man or ladder vision of a complete Body under One Head with angels ascending and descending with any of the consistency of Jesus life on earth . And this is the zöe we have received from heaven to build City on a Hill, a functioning Light on a Hill with lots of outstanding miracles and in less than 400 years the whole of Pagan Rome has shrivelled to nothing, yet it bestrode the then known world like one impenetrable fortress a bit like the later Iron Curtain .

Pentecost is so Insufficient as a statement. It was only ever the middle Feast. It tries its hardest to be something but Tabernacles is the Feast that has the pouring out of water and I gathering built within it structurally as well as Community and something for believers to come into .

Otherwise we get 5 week or 5 months blips of power then a few years later after Smith Wigglesworth's little tin tabernacle ex boxing hut work shrivels up the last lady hands me the key . Im talking real life here . This happened. 

Our gospel is better than this nonsense .

Read the Bible .

Chequerboard and current events

Brian Eno, Netanyahu and the Masonic squares .

Juri Lina's book Architects of Deception and Jon Eric Phelps Vatican Assassins took some weight off me as a fourth quartile. 

Mark Characters , especially those who model the Living Being face called cherub ....are particularly affected by our trauma based devil world and don't really engage at all . Fourth quartiles connect energetically in intercession.  In Leviticus 23 they are called willow tree . In Kafka, K becomes a beetle. In UK psychiatrists give them Prozac or lock them away .

But what a great thing the day you realised that the Irish troubles were directed by the same authority , Grand Lodge London , whose head was Philip .

IRA had southern lodges . The North had Orange lodges . Thanks Mr Lina .

What a great day to see the Vatican Assassins book photo of the same Jesuit Director directing the Israeli Prime Minister Begin and PLO's Assafat.

Presumably the Jesuit Black Pope , in charge of the world's militaries. 

Its all rigged . Its a pantomime where real people die , and others suffer .It feeds the Devil's Loosh quotient.  It creates huge flows of moneys . It creates dependency on Governments and militia .

I wrote the other day again about  Israel and Gaza , the Pink Floyd conflict over this . Now Brian Eno is organising a September Pro Palestinian concert with other concerned artists .

But here's the thing......

There's real life .

There's the chequerboard .

The devil can't go anywhere .

Revelation 12 implies he always has to stick close to what God is actually doing ....to try to stamp it out , or reproduce it in his form .

If Satan strays too far away he becomes irrelevant because God is the Source of all life  .If he tracks too close to God , he's just coming back under His reign .

So not only is he the great serpent physically,  he squiggles left to right of God's actual purposes. 

Black squares turn white and white squares turn black and this is how " independent self history" lurches forward like Frankensteins monster .

The tension energy Loosh is derived from creating two sides of anything but both arent God going on .

This is no more true than now in Israel and Palestine , or UK .

My opinion is Ezekiel 28 first verses describes Israel , and they have to traverse to the last section .

People can pipe up about prophecies of Israel , so few residents are even Semites . Either way , God doesn't need chequerboards ..   He is life .

Psalm 133 also says its like  the dew of Hermon falling on Mount Zion , which is a mystical phrase ....but it  won't be the same angels that broke through at Hermon  bringing mayhem as in book of Enoch . It won't be the worship of Dagon , the dog star .  Whatever it means its a foreign contingent now purified and worshipping with a true Israel .

This is all supernatural.  A fake World Council of Churches and mixture of faiths might emerge but the miracle will be the God of the Heavens performing His Word .

The entire chequerboard show is of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil . If we live on that Genesis 3 independent self lie then the chequerboard continues.  A white appearance Trump or JFK suddenly flick to black and offer vaccines. 

White Disney kids suddenly flip to black to take kids with them late teenage. It's a ritual .

The sweet Michael Jackson stops all telly worldwide with Thriller and starts his crotch thrusting dance routine.....people thought Elvises hip wiggle was something .

Stage by stage , checker square by checker square  into addictions,  hellfire .

But we don't have to live on squares invented by Director generals.  

We can live Christ and Galatians 2 20 this very day .

The Willow Tree Role

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One of the willow tree problems is scale .

The mundane day to day is small scale and involves lots of practical skills .

But the willow tree feedback is incessant. 

Feedback from the very kernel of the large scale. 

So for example, in a few words , at 7 or 8 billion people all obedient to the clunky control spirit pyramid infrastructure its no surprise that the whole house of cards is wobbling. 

Quickly, before it crashes, the handful at the top are instigating their last hope of a successful capstone of Lucifer .

Culling hugely...AIDS in Africa 

Connecting all that remain in some transhuman adaptations which are the ' god of forces ' Freemason god mirror version of Body under One Head ....a spontaneous knowing of Christ the Head in heaven .

This is the staggering promise of the Jeremiah 31 New Covenant. No man will teach his brother saying know the Lord for they shall all know Me .

So the fourth quartile of the population are built with understandings at the larger scale. Sometimes it overwhelms them ,especially that they can't share these burdens with the other three quartiles .

This is the drawback of the book Surrounded by Idiots . It's written by one of the other quartiles , and in the business world they adopt colours for the words choleric /red , sanguine / green , pragmatic / blue , melancholic /yellow .

Jews are so hopeless in their descriptions of the willow tree , they call them unfruitful and useless. This is how far they have migrated from God that their only perceptions of humans are how many cars , houses , children , and bank accounts they have . So when one of their own , Franz Kafka, begins explaining the intercessionary workings of truthers , Jews regard him as a madman. 

Secularism is a control system built around the lie of being free . Isn't that the total Irony of history?

And Judaism is now at least ....where they still bother , the adoption of Law , from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil , to try to neuter their own evil tendencies, not knowing the whole ' going out free ' thing is itself a lie ....even while trying to do God's work .

So Jews don't really understand Willow Trees and why God made them ....as regards the fourth quarter of the earth .

Fourth quartiles , like everybody, have to operate on a daily level, and as we see with prophet Daniel and Prime minister Joseph and USA Graham Cooke , they are really good at consultation. 

But their ' condition ' is to perceive things at great scale, mostly before the other quartiles .

In the church they are often prophets . The Four Living Beings lists describe them as eagle faces. They have something of the top down blueprint. 

Jews scoff at top down blueprint because the phrase in their minds means a Rockefeller gazing out from his own skyscraper building in New York at all he owns and controls. Except he and House of Rothschild are themselves only lackeys for those even higher and unknown. 

Top down blueprint is an accurate phrase because the Bible lists all these things over thousands of years and God got the Jews celebrating three Feasts at one level, while being clueless that they are the actual spiritual progression of God's incarnation in man across the earth .

Tabernacles in this arc or scale of manifestation represents the transparency of living when we all operate out of Union with Christ in the Ephesians 1.10 infrastructure God is really building .

This is a four wood type Co operative self build way of living . It is unknown among angels. God is using little Claypots to show them .

We are NOT the popefold wisdom of God 

We are not the priest fold wisdom of God 

We are not the John Michael Terry vicarfold wisdom of God 

We are not the Rodney Howard Browne alpha male pastorfold wisdom of God 

We ARE the manifold wisdom of God unto heavenly places. 

Church is a mystery. 

Christ in us is a mystery 

A man and a maid is a mystery 

Nothing works unless the Lord is the builder of the House .....but in evangelical and charismatic churches that was still too nebulous because they still run in rebellion using the world's solo control systems .

God's practice room .

Our sandbox.....as computer gaming calls it

Are the three diverses in 1 Corinthians 12 and for that every church has to do what Heidi Bakers dream said and hand over the reins over her head to Christ . Heidi is used to doing that if any have seen her meetings. Rodney Howard Browne is as well . Did you see the clip with the ministering children ?

But it really means letting God do His tenth gate work in a particular local expression of ecclesia .

Book of Nehemiah tenth gate of Miphkad is where the elders sit .

In the Spirit it's the psalm 84 phrase ....

of the blessed men and now women .....revealed before God in Zion .

Now boards of elders have long been the staple of Baptists but they may be apparent in God for their gifting , but the overall context isn't yet quite Melchizedek ....the pastor king is in charge. That said in any current church people try, in the level they understand to let God do the choosing. 

Everything from Catholicism to Bill Johnson is hampered by lack of Holy Spirit revealed men .

We have some powerful people at conferences , but Jesus made sure they were in His One local church ....that's the difference. 

It was a huge thing when Uncle Sid chainsawed his pulpit and office of kingship .

Don Francisco used the lyrics describing this as doing away with ' religious codependency '.

Revelation 12.1, psalm 84, Romans , Ephesians, the names of the 12 Jerusalem Gates and psalms of Ascent are all talking of a fixing and grounding process ....

Individually 

As a local ecclesia 

Rev. 12.1

Is knowing our Union with the psalm 19 Bridegroom .....not Apollo. Not some false Isaiah 14 Luciferian Morning Star ....but Jesus our Sun of Righteousness .

The Crown of 12 stars is an absolute miracle. 

We can just about get a group of varied humans into a jury for a court case....

The 12 elders from the Old Testament sold Joseph down the river. 

The 12 apostles sold Jesus down the river .

But precisely those 24 are interceding for all of us to get it together as they keep falling before the Throne crying Holy Holy Holy .

This is the crisis we have in the book Surrounded by Idiots . We don't 'get ' each other. 1 Corinthians 12.14-26 is still true . 

Having the moon under our feet means like Jesus first 30 years , we have so trained our senses to God going on we are completely off the Genesis 3 delusion of being some self running soul independent god ' looking in at God from the outside ' and trying to reflect His life rather than being Him and expecially after our co crucifixion in Christ and the verse Galatians 2.20. Our true identity was always spirit ....that was the deep masquerade that fooled us for 6000 years .

In Christ our main spirit identity became totally new . We are a new Creation literally from above and our souls and bodies are catching up.

That one Revelation 12.1 verse breeds exactly the church that formed in Jerusalem .....the core people now know their stuff. 12 and 120.

How do we know ? Check 1 John 1. Nobody moves like that as a 12. We see glimpses at conferences but these guys cohabited a City for us . Its described in that chapter. 

Jesus prophesied it forth .

You are a Light on a Hill .

You are a City on a Hill. 

AND THEY WERE .

SO CAN WE ALL BE .

 

Yesterdays Freedom of Speech Protest Rally London

 Live stream with Dan Wooton of Outspoken 

Charlie Kirk , Jordan Peterson

 

The Octopus spirit

Those long years ago which felt like being chucked out of the charismatic movement , I was feeling to run round Emsworth church boundaries 7 times . The 20 acres are not all adjoining to roads so.that's quite a distance by road .

I don't think the structures would have fallen flat like Jericho....but its interesting that I was prevented from reaching the last seventh circuit .

What I felt was there was something like a spider or octopus spirit holding the work .....sending it to sleep or into passivity .

Maeve , a prophetess,  who was Irish from Dublin , the one who had led Bono to Jesus in school . She kept visiting her friends in the church . One occasion she saw a bowl of fruit slowly going off .

Costa Deir , a man by nature,  full of the Lord's joy like Jessie Duplantis,was , while visiting our church , very very serious.  All his messages were very very sober instructions from the New Testament . 

I can now articulate the wrong spirit .

Samantha Paradhina calls the whole pyramid/ Leviathan order using the Job 38 Leviathan passage : the spirit of whoredoms.

Choosing a king pastor or one network apostle is going back down to Egypt and the pyramids.  You have chosen another husband from Jesus .

This is why, although God is gracious and still may come in meetings to a certain tide mark  , but really the writing is on the wall.  Even something as laudable as IHOP and Mike Bickle  can veer off course. 

Someone with the clear fruit of revelation on the Fatherhood of God can veer off course like Mark Stibbe .

The very first church on earth had 12 completely different personalities being taken through in the Spirit by Jesus and Word to 1 John 2 Father stage of growth 

Implied in every charismatic's mind is the goal of being put over a work of God like a church or better over a pyramid network .

That's not God's goal. 

That's humans being raised in establishments of the world thinking that the Kingdom works the same way. In a pyramid shape. 

No Kingdom from the wilderness onwards was always Melchizedek around a Pillar of Cloud and fire. 

Jesus chose 12 disciples. 

If you've lived in Bible House Community you understand part of the genius is the Cross filtering of Light from all the Body members. 

In His Light we see Light .

In normal Adamic culture or spiritual New Age culture the gap that Satan created by the creation of a middle man independent self is still active so at any time,  Leviathan spirit chains all these people using the pig ring of the nose of the Adamic spirit , and pulls the whole thing together to commit gross evils .

This process is described in Job 38.

There's an unrule or misrule in Adamic man .

There's also a fearfully wrong and powerful spirit we call Jezebel that acts through women .

One is like a passive Ahab the other like Jezebel , killer of prophets. 

These are spirits that temporarily take over God's creation 

What we want to head for is males and females having a single eye for God the Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Seeing God only like Psalm 123 and doing precisely what He us indicating. 

Just because the John quartile and the women have a natural predisposition to spirituality and spiritual light does not signify spiritual accuracy coming from the Throne of God .

So in the framework of current earth caught in thrall to false Genesis 3 Light God uses 

The Word of God 

12 father stage different personalities and Holy Spirit giftings to hold the Presence of God in Revival spirit .

The first few years of the Church are interesting. 

We have proof that maintaining continuous revival is possible, seen in the establishing of a proper City on a Hill Church in Jerusalem .

It even survived the horrible issue of whether to demand circumcision of males in the New Covenant . That's a massive issue because its a central logo issue for the Old Covenant brand .

The New Covenant branding is far superior because it is Hebrews 4.12,able to discern the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 

There are three stages of spiritual growth roughly equivalent to the last three stages of psychological growth which is what M Scott Peck was struggling over in Different Drum and Dave Tomlinson echoed because of Peck in his 1990 book ' The post evangelical'.

Norman Grubb's book Yes I Am and his booklet Romans 6 to 8 are our Romans for this generation,  just as Normal Christian life by Watchman Nee  was for us in the 60s and 70s .

Ephesians and Normal Christian Church life by Watchman Nee was our 60s Body and Church revelation,  but it's George H Warnock who put it into today's context in his 1951 book ' The Feast of Tabernacles '.

People are waiting for a transparent community to walk in Galatians 2.20 Light .

To lift Jesus up from the earth not just in praise but in a non jostling infrastructure very similar to Joel 2 Army but in the Spirit of God .

Selah

Benevolent Rulership?

Our generation grew up in the shadows of what we believed was a basically benevolent rulership including an excellent serving Queen.

We also grew up with a thing called Monopolies and Mergers Commission . We all played Monopoly Board Games so we knew what the end result of monopoly is . 

 In 2021 the tectonics of our country changed . Jeanette Archer stood with a megaphone outside Windsor Palace revealing what her childhood had been like in that very place. The talk is 50 minutes long and is recorded on alternative media. 

 Apart from Kevin Annette charging the Queen and Philip with their 1964 abduction and supposed murder of Kamloops children who were never returned after a day trip , England as we knew it fell in 2021. 

 Around this time we learned that three Companies virtually rule all of world commerce, that Monopolies and Mergers commission had in fact overseen the merger of everything by world powers . This happened right under our noses as a generation, but more so because our section of untold thousands were the Jesus Move generation or simply those converted in colossal numbers by Billy Graham.....or both. Jesus addressed the Jews with the literally gutting phrase ' if the Light within you is Darkness then how great is the Darkness .' Our history as first and secondlevel Christians ( 1 John 2 first two stages) proves like Jews beforehand that this Christanity doesn't begin to touch the original problem because that has grown right round us on our watch . The rise and takeover of the Luciferian Dragon System . 

It was only not having enough money for a train trip and buses round London forced us to tramp round on foot, and there to my shock were the hitherto unperceived dragons outside City of London and Buckingham Palace . And that together with the Dragon worship of the Chinese begins to focus our eyes on the territorial spirits these powers are really serving in plain sight . Generally, although more serious in tone ,evangelicalism is powerless because they reject the power of the Holy Spirit . They just watch uselessly like the dead legacy versions of Christianity, while the country is taken over . Charismatics are lightweights , not knowing what's going on around them and still assuming the nation that tried openly to cull us through neglect if we were old, and through deadly vaccines if in the general population....are well meaning and benevolent. 

God however always said either through prophets or directly through His Son 

 Yet once more will I shake the Heavens and the earth as of things that can be shaken. 

 And 

 This generation of unbelief is passing away. Why? To set the mind on the flesh ( the whole Genesis 3 lie of Satan ) is death but to set the mind on the spirit ( the whole Total Solution remedy of Jesus in the Cross) is life and peace .

 Thirdlevel or father stage Christianity catches the whole human condition by the jugular. Previous forms don't begin to achieve City on a Hill like Jesus first church He built . People speak of Christian discipleship but they are blind guides. They read but don't have the first clue about what was really happening in the four gospels and Acts. And this manifests in the discipleship fruit . That's why I still don't believe Torben Sondergaards new drive will work any more than Youth With A Mission versions or the Pioneer, Salt and Light and New Frontiers attempts .....all networks of churches that came out of the limited Light of the charismatic young man stage of growth gospel that is largely American. It took 60 years as a missions director with a Cambridge mind for Norman Grubb to further clarify what Jesus and Paul were saying, and what the first two levels of Christianity in our country are NOT SAYING . This is why God is shaking everything still on the Genesis 3 platform.

The Bride Coming Down out of heaven

 

I saw the Bride coming down out of heaven

Is a good sentence .

It's a John 6 typeBread from heaven sentence.

It's a great filter of early Mark quartile movers and Shakers.

You can build churches of teens to 35 year olds as a father told me after visiting his son in Rob Rufus new at the time , Hong Kong International Church .

And these folk are

Born again

Baptised in the Spirit

Grounded in Romans 3 to 5 and Ephesians 1 to 3.

The Bride coming out of heaven is natural organic ecclesia . Joined by that which EACH SUPPLIES WHEN IT IS WORKING PROPERLY .

Initially we are laying foundations . We are founding the Book of Ezra equivalent Temple protocols in the Spirit . Gatherings are real .....but the Bride hasn't fully come down out of heaven yet.

We need more than one flask of oil .

We are believing upon Galatians 2.20 until it begins manifesting in our soul . For that we have to know who we have been made in the Cross and resurrection of our main spirit being .

That's why being born again was so enormous .

In a sense , although evangelicals and charismatics major on it , in another way they downplay its importance because they still think of themselves as self running souls with something like a pea sized spirit inside, which they crank up in praise at meetings .

If they read their Bibles and believed we are spirit who have soul flavoured lampshades , they'd have to do less cranking . Genesis 3 is the serpent lie that we can be ' like God 'ie separately like Him .Meanwhile the serpent unplugs our direct God connection and loops it round Darkness to give our energy as Loosh to fallen entities . Hence when it is returned to us it's contaminated by death ....so we have funerals .

Our believing is upon this life that came down from heaven and still comes out of heaven.

The Bride , formed in grand Ephesians 1 to 3 ,

Colossians 3.3 and Galatians 2.20 style is coming live out of heaven .

Proof ....when we go into our inner room .

Proof ....when we gather in the Name of Jesus

Proof ....when loads of believers in a room have functional experiential knowledge of Romans 3 to 8......and with the 3 Diverses of 1 Corinthians 12 starting to flow not just in fabulous large conferences but local Kingdom portals called ecclesia . What church actually is and not just teaching synagogues like we have nearly without exception everywhere.

That's why we prophesy to the Breath ,come from the four winds. Let this Bridd come out of heaven properly.

Yes I began by saying that this Noble phrase filters out the programmes, the " comely trees "...the God ordained initiators of the Leviticus 23 4 Woods ....

But first the natural then the spiritual .

The Matthew Quartile Reds the Mark Quartile Greens ( see Surrounded by Idiots ) have to give way to apostolic and prophetic giftings that plant real Bridal ecclesia in the earth.

Greens are very personable. Someone who is a teacher in the Body of Christ was describing a pastor guy saying , he talks a lot of words but Im not even sure he himself knows what he means.

We have to allow for the two frequency types also .

Greens are communicating love , security, friendliness , unity . It may seem at an ideas level that its hot air , but its another very real God frequency. But substantial teaching in the Spirit or even leftbrain ( they aren't the same ) it is not.

The old sturdy trees of Leviticus 23 are like Blues , or teachers, speaking from the breadth of the Word like Watchman Nee but also as author of Release of the Spirit .

The fascinating image in Tabernacles is of 4 classifications of simultaneous Woods being built and entwined together.

This is ecclesia as opposed to rabbi synagogue .

This is addressing the Four Winds to properly animate the Body .

The Bride who comes out of heaven has a single eye already for seeing God going on .

She is already psalm 123 Melchizedek in function .

This is supernatural.

That's why we prophesy to the Breath .

The ministries are already there across towns and cities .....at least the 5 particular Ephesians 4.11 ones .....but across the three lists there are about 14 different ones (cf also Romans 12 6-8, 1 Corinthians 12 27-28)

If I be lifted up from the earth I will draw all men unto Me

Three liftings

In the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension to glory ......itself 3 liftings

In praise. Praise and music is a God given portal that brings open heaven. We have lived this for 53 years since various ministries taught it again into the Body of Christ .

In proper ecclesia of the three Holy.Spirit run Diverses in 1 Corinthians 12.....it's clearly manifest in awe that Jesus is running everything LIVE

This is what is delaying the great Ingathering , namely sufficient thirdlevel ( 1 John 2 fathers) ministries to " hold open Heavens in a locality "....kind of Moses style up a Hill with raised hands .....or in Acts with 12 non jostling ministries operating the 1 John 1 protocol of all moving out of the same fellowship with the Father .

I saw the Bride coming down out of heaven .

Complacent?

 This post is today's Facebook post , but then I found this illustrative clip from Nathan Reynolds . 

It's very irritating to charismatics to be told they are complacent .

Have you seen the amount of meetings they go to?

That's what Mother Basilea Schlink addressed us teens with . I got very angry but didn't show it .

I stayed up all night in prayer to prove her wrong ...but didn't.....because I fell asleep.

That's not what it's about .

Its not about demonstrating or proving anything .

Listen to this. Because it will change our lives and earth.

This is also why God is using the treasures of Darkness to lecture us . Some saved. Some not yet ......but strangely obedient to their consciences meanwhile.....as St Paul writes .

This will freak out some TULIP CALVINISTS , but God nevertheless uses this Testimony of His into the earth at this stage of things .

And the occult themselves have a ' good side ' in case we are missing the truth in all the confusion .

Please understand .....their messages always have lies in ...or else they would be sat right back in God's territory. Lucifer has to be to one side of the line to build his own Throne. Nevertheless there's always a strident voice for truth ...even if it's one .Ian Paisley. Andrew Bridgen 

Here's the thing .

Revival is spirit .

We don't know how dead we are until someone comes in the Spirit of the Lord .

We don't know how much we don't love Jesus until the sweet savour of first love comes into our gatherings, or we meet such a person. 

We don't know how unholy we are until we are with holy people. 

We don't know the power of God and the limitless nature of His workings until we have been with such a people.

To the world , God's demands seem preposterous until they sense His Presence . Then , it's perfectly natural to fall on your face before God .

This Peter did after the Cross .

" Depart from me for I am unholy "

But Jesus carried on with the fish barbecue .

Check these tiny one phrase details and accounts out . I am not lying .

Here's the thing ......normal families are not Bloodline families . Kids are raised generationally in practises so abhorrent to normal people that thats why these sectors are occult. 

Yet some of these people are escaping. Some to Christ .....some are just getting out and risking their lives for truth......this God credits to their account ....not in flesh....but according to their seriousness in following goodness while He works the rest out .

Some of the complacency in charismatics is like the disciples before they really fouled up .

In whatever way , the experience of Romans 7 drags us by the pig ring in our nose until we have fully understood the seriousness of how independent self really operates .

Some of the complacency is similar to Germans having to be frogmarched round their concentration camps . Whether the same has to happen with the underground passageways in all our towns.....and the Deep Underground military Bases . Our aperture needs to expand. But not so that people like comedian Spike Milligan never recover , only eking out the rest of his days when not entertaining. 

There is a Living Being quartile known as cherub .

And they can be seriously injured .

By far the greatest complacency is because God hasn't yet installed Himself inside our executive function properly.

This is the bit Im saying listen up to .

Our executive function is represented in the Old Covenant by a circumcised penis .

In the new, where there's neither male nor female.....it's connected to the reproductive, sexual desires realm ....but it's wider ....to include the seat of our main desires .

It's got a simplicity to it as we saw in all three of Jesus temptations before ministry, none of them sexual .....though He was , during His life , tempted in all points .

No, this is the last of the three inner areas of the Lord's Prayer . Can we be tempted to do anything God is not doing .....or to refrain from and avoid doing anything He is doing ?

The Executive function in man involves our projection room . This is our faithing room .

This is where we faith things in .

This is where we operate like our own Father God speaking Let there be Light , confronted by Darkness.

We begin doing this in the charismatic young man stage or the psalm 84 picture of turning vales of Baca or weeping into early rains. 

Or Jacob faithing in speckled and striped sheep to order . Or entrepreneurs acting on hunches or making executive albeit unpopular decisions in business, only to be proved right .

But God has to get right inside charismatic level function, to what REALLY DRIVES THEM AND WHY.

That's why there's an experience after baptism in the Spirit , after Romans 3 to 5 , learning functions of grace .....where God gives us thd experience of Romans 6 to 8. See Norman Grubb's booklet serialised on the LHS of my blog . The third level dot info . (No spaces ofcourse )

The verse that describes God getting inside our executive function is 

Bind the festival sacrifice to the altar 

It's connected to the altar of incense 

Day of Atonement .....Day of At One Ment 

Romans 12.1

Davids Prayer of Desperation as his sin is laid bare by the prophet. " Unite my heart to fear your Name "

Ironically as we let God probe our deepest , most executive drives ....the very unique quartile drives that mark out the Four Woods character, Four Living Being type that we are .....checkout Surrounded by Idiots. 

As God coralls where we are at...corall is a good word for a training compound for a wild horse .

Do you remember that U2 one liner " Who is going to drive your wild horses?"

When God has taken believers into these realms of Executive function they are ready for Leviticus 23 Four Woods function. What's that ? Its Tabernacles . It's the last Feast . It's proper church or ecclesia . Current church by comparison are job lots of dead bones , all nicely stored in boxes up high streets with one call no man rabbi , leader running a synagogue. They are fake Ishmaels of God's real City on a Hill church that Jesus built with loads of Joel 2 non jostling elders going right through a city .

But more than this .....executive function gets out of Book of Ezra into Book of Nehemiah and properly reforming things....but this time from a Galatians 2.20 knowledge of who we now really are in our main spirit man identity since being born again .

John Noble, George Tarleton, David Mansell. Gerald Coates and the other leaders always spoke about reformation but we thought Christianity only had two levels as Americans preach .

No 1 John 2 is about 3 defined stages of growth. 

Noahs Boat was 3 defined Decks or floors .

Watchman Nees book on Ephesians and the Patriarchs is Sit Walk Stand .

Reiner Fuellmichs end of August Talk

 

Putting Our Hands to the Plough

 

Here's what's on offer in front of our eyes in the Bible 

Noah proved its possible to preach righteousness in a place that's a lot darker than now . He proved that God can be trusted to give plans for the first boat , and it be trustworthy enough to protect and save 8 persons through the mother of all floods .

Im preaching to all of us yellow belly suckers that came out of Jesus Move or later in the most extra ordinary time period. 

God instructed a people in God warfare which is different from fallen principality warfare .

It involves speaking to walls after circling them .

It involves standing on hillsides with your arms raised. 

I involves a leading tribe called praise or Judah .

It involves things like striking the earth with arrows very ferociously or you end up in a very lacklustre outcome 

It involves taking over the Boss City from below in the waterducts 

Then it involves holding a plot of earth in righteousness actively believing for the portion on which our feet are stood . Instead we have got diverted by Maritime Law under Leviathan .

However for a time neither Balak nor Balaam could pull a thing off against Jews .

Jerusalem had the first archetypal church  that Jesus theme Son of God built .

Graham Pulkingham , GH Warnock , Sam Fife took this half seriously but still our generation didn't perceive what Uncle Sid then later Jack Fortenberry saw . Namely what Presbyterians Brethren and Quakers had already observed.

Church is community and there is no king pastor 

Jews were wrong about kings . Christians are wrong about kings . Israel already had the first vestige of the Government of God which is always on shoulders ....now Jesus heavenly and earthly Body shoulders. 

12 elders .

Priests with poles .

In Jerusalem 12 apostle elders who like the rest of the born again baptised in the Spirit congregation are all functioning priests of this off the creation Melchizedek Order priesthood .

And we are kings . Royal priesthood . Kings and priests. 

The Church or the congregation or ecclesia is our local Noahs Boat ....but only if we obey instructions given by Jesus , Paul and a phrase or two by the other apostles. 

Im addressing Tom Stewart, me , Sylvia Pearce , Brian Coatney  , somewhat John Stevens ,the people in South Chard , my exFacebook friend Ilona Smith .

God has laid a trail of victories. 

Noahs Boat 

The survival in the wilderness,  the world's first non  human king Melchizedek run people and the taking of land from giants. 

God has laid a trail of Feasts which have been inaugurated in the natural and are being finished in the Spirit .

They are more like steady state heavenly Wells of living water that once opened , never shut .

Passover is not stopping .

Pentecost is not stopping .

Tabernacles once opened properly will never ever close. 

Jews managed to close the first church among them and were judged severely because of that and the crucifixion before it .

So the theology of the whole world rests in the theology of Sylvia Pearce , Brian J Coatney and numerous others of us .

Does Tabernacles happen before Jesus Comes back or after a rapture. 

Well everybody is too late.

Jerusalem Church already modelled every aspect of what Tabernacles is in the Spirit 

12 third stage of growth,  very free , very victorious apostles with outstanding miracles 

Walking 1 John 1 style through Jerusalem house to house .....that's a Tabernacles gesture mixed in the Spirit with Joel 2.

People sold their goods and nobody said their possessions were their own. 

Mercy and helps ministry.  Evangelising and discipling ministries. Even Philips two prophetess daughters .....

All this was so good we must receive the backhanded complement of Karl Marx and Communism trying to pull off an atheist version .

So we are too late. Our theology needs to return to fact.

Thirdlevel is real. Third stage of growth is real in 1 John 2 and its 1John 1 protocols of ministry. 

Its already happened. Period .

All that remains is to repoduce this conference level Christanity not for 5 days but permanent open heaven held open by the new Jesus priesthood since the Cross......but now in every location on earth .

Not pastor king synagogues no .

Psalm 123 people who only do what they see the Father doing .

We are even living at a time where Timothy Lahaye Spirit controlled temperament and now Surrounded by Idiots by thomas erikson have been written to help us through the great 1 Corinthans 12: 14- 26 hurdle preventing the dynamic function of God's Body under One living Head , Jesus .

We are living at the time of the second Ezekiel 37 prophesying that animates the Body on its two feet .

And we are living at a time when God is reviving the THREE DIVERSES to the Body described in 1 Corinthians 12,so Kathie Walters and David Walters don't have to be the only kids on the block any more.

We are living at the precise time when the unspectacular teaching of Jessie Czebotar is actually the teaching required together with Prophesy to the Breath.....come from the 4 winds .

Which is pretty spectacular as is speaking to the Ancient Doors.

I made a decision after the morgue of modern Methodism . I decided to only follow scripture and with tenacity to learn what's written there. 

I don't pay attention to 2000 year-old Cathedrals 

To evangelical huts

To charismatic warehouses with mega synagogue rabbis in the cheap skate half built towers of American young man stage Christanity....

I look to what Jesus built and Paul describes .

Jerusalem and Paul's churches worked .

Armenia was the last remaining unbroken church history from Paul in Asia Minor , no wonder Satan wanted a genocide there.

The true gospel foundations of Ephesians Colossians and Romans are built to last 

Kingdom is first and foremost manifest ...that's what proves we are overturning Genesis 3.

Whimpering for a rapture when we haven't done anything yet.....is plainly ridiculous .

Unlike Lots wife , we must now put our hands to the plough and get moving at all levels .

Called by His Name

  

 Context: Bible Hub announcement of the Prayer 24/7 Global Prayer Week

Phrase Called by His Name

The Anchor that is Christ 

The 2nd Prophesying in the Valley of Dry Bones 

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Back to the corrupt prison of Fosse Way with falsely imprisoned Wilfred Wong ???

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 Wilfred Wong is also falsely charged at Fosse Way