Corporate living as Christians or anyone for that matter(read about the New Age community at Findhorn, and see the faces of your average nuns and monks) doesn't work without Norman Grubb's message, which is Paul's message and Jesus message....but Jesus wasn't in a situation to be able to explain it best.....so He carried on lecturing through Paul.
So I always tell the Union folk there are two Biblical models and the Church....the proper one...is God's real method in Rev 12
1. Method 1....most saints so far
The Hewn out secretly in the quarry method
The Jesus and the disciples method.
The rattling of bones for 3 years
Has to be a thirdlevel church.....because first and secondlevel churches don't "get" the depth of the Romans 6 and 7 excavations
They are far too naive....like Peter's statement
I will never betray you Jesus
Jesus said you will.....and all before the cock crows....in other words....you won't even make the night out!!!!!!