Thursday 23 March 2017

Preterism: The Good the Bad and the Ugly

Facxebook Intro to this post
In Nehemiah he was instructed by the emperor to return to Jerusalem and rebuild. How about that? And then a local bunch of satraps, try and tell him what he is doing is illegal in some way. In these days God has been rebuilding the walls and Gates of Jerusalem again according to the prophetic Words of the 70s about rebuilding the waste places of Jerusalem. Then this whipper snapping dog comes around called Preterism. I am not sure how big it is in the UK but on Facebook it seems quite large.
Like middlemen you see these forums sprouting:
You can't build that here
You can't do that
You cant use spiritual gifts they are all out of date
You can't be an apostle ,prophet pastor ,teacher, deliverance ministry or whatever they are all discontinued
You can't get baptised in the Spirit that all finished in 70 AD !!!!!
Well after having two whole days of this stuff, let's look at what God is saying through His Word, rather than all the things the yapping middle managers say we can't do.

In the last couple of days I have likened Preterism to Mormonism in this fashion:
They take a few verses and according to their carnal understanding build a whole edifice of doctrine out of what was a wrong reading in the first place.
Preterism does this with Daniel chapter 9
and Mormons created our entire genealogical industry out of one verse of Paul that was written in a totally different context. Paul talks of being baptised for the dead, so Mormons trot off and try to proxy baptise people on behalf of every single person who ever lived. And you thought Anglican Infant baptism was bad!!!! Huh?
Preterists take a passage in Daniel 9 wildly out of context and kill off all supernatural engagement in the whole church. It is one of the most devilishly paralysing things in America at the moment, probably second only to the bus stop Rapture concept.
After prayerful thought this afternoon, here are some thoughts:
Aspects of the text of the book of Revelation have been understood by some as being indicative of an earlier date.
Chilton holds that since Scripture teaches that all prophecy would be complete by the end of the 70th week of Daniel (Dan. Dan. 9:24-27) and since the book of Revelation contains prophetic material, therefore the book must have been written prior to the end of Daniel’s 70th week: END QUOTE
While the actual points of the second article regarding the contemporaneous churches make a lot of sense, the above paragraph, which seems to be a major foundation for preterism and the winding up of prophecy, is just simply a wrong reading of what was meant.
Seventy [t]weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to [u]finish the transgression, to [v]make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and [w]prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
I would not dare make pronouncements outside what God reveals, which is one of the disturbing elements of preterists and futurists like John Hagee.
Both groups have no fear of going ahead of God and telling Him what he meant by His own words.
So in vagueness, my insides are telling me that God has allotted a definite course for Israel,
but somewhere somehow God is using the "switching off" from the purposes of God for our inclusion.....
there is a delay until the 70th week. Although as usual, Gods ways being higher.....He has fulfilled the 70th week at one level in the Death of Jesus, and this is why certain aspects of Preterism are correct.
But examine with me this sentence
Seventy [t]weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to [u]finish the transgression, to [v]make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and [w]prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
Israel and specifically Jerusalem have been given the task, in a manner that is "fixed" "chosen", "set in stone" and "appointed"
Just as it was St Peter to be given the Keys of the Kingdom as we saw in Acts....
so it has been fixed and appointed that the Remnant, after all the devil has thrown at the Jews....
the remnant and God's chosen city Jerusalem have been chosen to wrap everything up
St Paul calls it life from the dead.
If we have been included in as a wild olive during their "off period"....and that was an amazing blessing, then what will their inclusion be, but life from the dead!!!
So like one of those movie freezes, like in the Matrix, the Jews go into a long freeze.....they never completed the 70 weeks
they never did do any of the things they were appointed to they have been frozen in time, while the camera sweeps round and grabs any Gentiles willing from the four corners of the globe....
and when the fulness of the Gentiles have come in,
the freeze frame stops and the Jews actually get to be the
"Last shall be first"
having been the first that was made last for 2000 years, in terms of New Covenant operations.
Certainly right now Jews, who are as infested as you can get with the Khazar peoples who "say they are Jews but are not", they are currently leading the charge for their "Messiah"....but the Messiah has already come in a form they did not recognise. So the devil, understanding perfectly the sort of superman they are looking for, wont disappoint them.
While everlasting righteousness has indeed been brought in by Christ, as EW Bullinger noted, in precisely the 70th week....
For everlasting righteousness to be permanent in the earth
we have to see a Day of Atonement come when the two houses, Israel and the Church are literally become One THING
with the manifestation of the wall of hostility broken down.
"to seal up vision and [w]prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
WAS accomplished by Christ in the heavenly Tabernacle
as yet we do not see everything in subjection to Christ but we see Him who was made a little while lower than the angels crowned with glory and honour....
BUT until the full manifestation on earth......nope not at all do we see the sealing up of vision and prophecy .....
I haven't checked the meaning of sealing up of vision and prophecy but I would suspect this means something like
zipping a banana back up again
or consummation of union as of two entities becoming one.
The Lord has determined HOW He will achieve these things
Not by Might nor by power but by my Spirit.
So indeed the supernatural ministries and the supernatural gifts, and people walking supernaturally in Galatians 2.20 consciousness are indeed the methods God has designated in a context that John was writing and that the writer of Hebrews was writing of a new nation of Kings and Priests according to the new Order of Melchizedek.

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