Friday 28 February 2014


The operational base of all things is first and foremost spirit and secondarily matter.

Matter, or what can be seen, has been formed and often reformed by elements that never have been visible within the spectral range of the human eye, yet they are real just the same.

Jesus spoke quite frequently of the interaction between these things, and in doing so exposed to those paying attention, the way things work within the rich atmosphere of creation.

Jesus spoke a lot about the inner man and the mechanism within the heart, saying quite plainly that what a person manifests into the world, is inextricably unified with the influences the individual traffics with on the inside, in that place called 'the heart', which we know to be the central core or foundation upon which the thoughts, pictures, images and imaginations swirl.

It is out of this swirl, often mixed with both good and evil, that all human expression in both word and deed emerges.

The tragedy of what we classically and aptly refer to as mankind's 'fall' (starting from such a heightened state of existence as a son of God in a mastery of creation, to a reverse state of being under, or subject to the created [see Romans 1] and unable to extricate ourselves from its power) is found in the loss of man's capacity at the core level of being to discern between what is 'good' (life effusing) and what is 'evil' (life consuming), represented by the tree of mixture, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The capacity to discern again is what Jesus came and still comes to restore to us, he being the human expression of what the pure image and likeness of the Father (God), in unveiled revelation looks like...which we too are to look like in replication, if the same Spirit that animated Jesus at his core, likewise now animates us at our core.

It changes the way you see things.

Those whose entire core and central nervous system is founded on this image then speak and act quite differently, expressing outwardly into the cosmos surrounding them according to an entirely different point of beginning or genesis.

What we see in Jesus then, is a man unified with God, no longer living in victim-hood, as one fallen, as a man under the created and the creature (whether spiritual as in angel or spirit or material), but walking the earth and appearing upon the stage of history reflecting the true nature of the Father's intent for His most prized creation, mankind.

That's what I think anyway.

Oh, and I almost forgot...that God has set things up in a way that His children can reform and reshape the mechanism of the earth by the simple method of speaking, because that is how creation is formed or speaking from our core words congruent with the ideas of the Father...because every word any of us speak, whether good or evil, is like a seed sown into this amazingly rich atmosphere in which He has placed us, and causes the world we live in to be what it is on both a micro-cosmic and a macro-cosmic level. simple.

If we can re-energize the way the world of man thinks at its foundational core and then let that translate into the words we speak and the things we go about creating...we can alter the entire landscape of the earth among all people, all tribes, all races and all nations.

It's pretty simple when you get right down to it isn't it?

Kudos Jesus! Pure genius! Pure genius!

- Rand Swift (Musings and Meditations) on Kingdom Conversations - Facebook

Thursday 27 February 2014

Yes I Am song and component scriptures

Appearing at the end of Norman Grubb's last full-length book, Yes, I Am, are the lyrics of a song proclaiming the amazing truth about who we are in Christ. It was set to the tune of the old campfire song, "If You're Happy and You Know It, Clap Your Hands" and sung at gatherings where Norman's Total Truth was being shared. As the introduction to the song says, "No great poetry, not set to great music, but great truth." Here we quote the Bible verse referenced below each citation.


If the Lord says I'm a Christian, yes, I am,
And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch. (Acts 11:26)
If the Lord says I'm made new, yes, I am,
If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away: behold, all things have become new. (2 Cor. 5:17)
If the Lord says I'm one spirit with Himself,
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. (1 Cor. 6:17)
If the Lord says I am. YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm a son. yes. I am.
Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called sons of God.' (I John 3:2)
If the Lord says I'm an heir. yes, I am,
It'sons, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ (Rom. 8:17)
If the Lord says I'm a citizen of His kingdom here and now, yes, I Am
Now you are no strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God. (Eph. 2:19)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm a vessel, yes, I am,
We have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. (2 Cor. 4:7)
If the Lord says I'm a branch, yes, I am,
I am the vine you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him. bears much fruit: for without me you can do nothing. (John 15:5)
If the Lord says I'm a temple of His Holy Spirit in me,
Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit
who is in you. whom you have from God, and you are not your
own . (1 Cor. 6:19)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm a saint, yes, I am,
Those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all
who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ. (I Cor. 1:2) 
If the Lord says I'm elect, yes, I am,
I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. (2 Tim. 2:10)
If the Lord says I'm a partaker of His divine nature,
Through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust (2 Pet 1:4)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm a priest, yes, I am,
If the Lord says I'm a king, yes, I am,
And has made us kings and priests to His God and Father... (Rev. 1:6)
If the Lord says I am seated in the heavenly places in Christ,
And raised us up to sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus. (Eph. 2:6)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I am holy, yes, I am,
If the Lord says I am blameless, yes, I am,
Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love... (Eph. 1:4)
If the Lord says I am unreprovable in His sight.
In the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreprovable in His sight. (Col 1:22)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm complete, yes, I am,
You are complete in Him. (Col. 2:10)
If the Lord says I am perfect, yes, I am,
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded; (Phil. 3:15)
If the Lord says that I am as He is in this world,
Because as He is, so are we in this world. (1 Jn. 4:17)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I am filled, yes, I am, -
Now ye are full, now ye are rich... (1 Cor. 4:8)
If the Lord says I am strong, yes, I am,
I have written you, young men, because you are strong... (I Jn. 2:14)
If the Lord says I am more than conqueror in this world.
In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. (Rom. 8:37)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

If the Lord says I'm not I but He in me, yes, I am,
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God... (Gal.2:20)
If the Lord says I'm the world's light, yes, I am,
You are the light of the world... (Matt. 5:14)
If the Lord says I'm a god to whom His word has come,
Is it not written in your law, I said, 'Ye are gods? He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came... (John 10:4-35)
If the Lord says I am, YES, I Am.

Wednesday 26 February 2014

Our Father Prayer Expansion by Rand Swift


All I can say after this morning session with Jesus is..."WOW!"

The doors of perception are being blown off...once again. Way to go Son of God! Way to go my Shepherd.

Let us pray:

"Our Father, the Generator of the sons of God, we into whom You have placed the genetic markers of Your own image, imaginations and pictorial illuminations, Your ideas, thoughts and conversations replicating perfectly within us, in mirror like reflections of Who and what You in Your own self are, in the magnitude of Your invisible, limitless, energetic, spiritual splendor, in the immensity and overflowing richness of Your own being...

Oh! May we rise to reflect the highest conceivable excellence attainable, fully living up to the honor of this name, this family name, this great name and divine heritage into which You have birthed us...

Oh! Let it come to be that what You have ordained in earth, we Your sons can have the wisdom to accomplish according to the supernatural crafts You are teaching us, that we can mold and form the creation here to be unified together as one with Your own deepest pleasures, replicating the great joys and fullness of Your habitation in the heavens, here upon the material realm of earth, healing and saving that which was lost and has been so long disparate from You, as it has waited so patiently for us and for the workmanship You have given us to accomplish on its behalf.

Oh! Let all that You have prepared in Your grand sufficiency to us, in the loving care and supply of every necessity in the perpetual sustaining of all life, flow now to us and through us into the earth, and in the same way that You have removed from us every obstacle and hindrance that kept us from realizing Your unquenchable love, even so let us perform the same act of love in exorcising from others every obstacle and hindrance keeping them too from coming face to face with Your inexplicable love.

Oh, Father! Remove by the great acts of Your power every enemy that would exercise a form of leadership and influence designed to invent mechanisms of trouble, harm, loss, debilitation, pain and suffering among any person or persons on this earth, and in great demonstrations of Your great power, delivering us all from the very root causes of all such evils.

Oh, Father! This creation is Your creation, and the dynamics of power are indeed Your dynamics of power, and the excellence to be made manifest, is indeed the excellence of Your own grand excellence.

Hear us Father, and cause all these things to be so...Oh! Cause all these things to be so Father."

- Rand Swift (Musings and Meditations) from Kingdom Conversations on Facebook
More on the Lord's prayer Here

Tuesday 25 February 2014

Elaine compares her situation and what she has accomplished through God with NGOs

Migori Prison1
The problem is why I am tired why i struggle and why I suffer greatly is because I have no sponsorship with what I am doing what I do comes from my own back pocket Gods provision and my supportive FB friends , recently I went to an NGO who does the same work and sponsers have
Migori Prison 2
provided them with cars tractors and wages and a great complex. They are given 17 million KS a year to support a school. Me i have £170 per month, people say I am a scrounger and yet I have done so much work here voluntary and I love to do it unto the Lord but you need funding encouraging
Migori prison 3
personal sponsorship appreciation and prayer. With lack pf funds I am in personal debt and I am really praying for a donor and a sponsor 
for this work God has sent me to do to carry on.
Now its a continuous headache the people here think of me like I am loaded as an NGO but I am a widow . I used to feel guilty for complaining but after seeing Green Forrest NGO in Gwassi I realized why I am struggling tired and often want to give up and go back to the UK but if i was supported then what a difference that would be. even to have a vehicle instead of a motor bike.
With an NGO they have a vehcle and a driver and food and appreciation money to do all the things that is needed. Thats why Goerge had to go back to work and be a consultant in Gwassi for green forest because for three weeks it was insufficient funds at the ATM and he felt ashamed .... but God has brought me here and we are seeing the mighty hand of God but with support how much better it would be OH GOD LORD SEND ALL WE NEED TODAY SO WE CAN COnTINUE WITH THE WORK...

GIVING NOTES...Chris Welch
Finances are needed as direct gifts.
Or you may want to be a FINANCIAL ANGEL, where you are either giving or loaning money to a central fund to be administered by trustworthy people locally in Suna area, as revolving loans for establishing new enterprises.

Kingdom Giving is a revelation like everything in the Kingdom. If you think you understand something, you probably don't.
If you have a need or desire for something that you feel has come from God, then unlike most Brits reacting to a fleshy version of Seed faith practiced in the States, IT IS PERFECTLY FINE to sow money into the Kingdom then believe God to answer the need that is on your heart. We ARE to test God in this. Most Brits have this inner fear lest God doesn't show up, so like the servant who buries his talent in the ground...because " I thought you were a hard master"....they flunk out and say religiously.....

Oh well I'll give to Elaine, but because I'm righteous I don't expect God to give anything back because that would be selfish.

If God is in you, and He is expressing His desires and wants in you, then those things on your heart are precious and not selfish....but like all things we receive by faith...BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST we give for the expansion of the Kingdom.

Tithing is crap, not because giving is crap, but it feeds your stupid belief that God hasn't nailed all demands of the Old Covenant to the Cross. We don't "do" anything for Jesus to get righteousness....we are so superawed that God invaded our lives at all and GAVE us His Righteousness that we want everyone to know about it...and it's helpful if they are still alive first to hear it !!!! We LOVE because He first loved us.

The people DOING the Kingdom stuff don't get supported. The people NOT doing the Kingdom stuff get put into leadership positions in costly buildings that drain all the saints' finances. Who do you think Jewishbusinessmen derive their shrewdness and business acumen from? GOD DEMANDS FRUITFULNESS, because HIS SON IN US is fruitful. If it was up to us, God would let us off. But He has invested Jesus inside us, and demands Jesus sized fruit. Call it the Father's JESUS BANK......US.

And He demands THIRTY, SIXTY AND HUNDRED FOLD FRUITFULNESS...because His Son really is that fruitful!!!!

....Some food for pondering as a detached friend of Elaine Waterfield (who they call Nya Suna, daughter of their Suna District).


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Monday 17 February 2014

More on the Financial Background of the Road to Serfdom

First something More Positive

Karen Hudes explains some of the more positive things going on in the background

Now, in sequence, a series of videos which help explain the whole situation we are in.

Internationalist Bankers

The EU empire

Bill Still 1 at Bromsgrove 2010

Bill Still 2 Full Historical Background

Proof of the Biggest Transfer of Money yet

Next Wave of Economic Crisis

EU and its Communist Roots

The following report is printed from here
The FED prints money without end. Now, however, it is enough for the Chinese: they no longer want to buy dollars and soon not even U.S. debt any more - and they can settle their oil trade in yuan. This means the great collapse of the U.S.: Its great power status is based on the dollar as a reserve currency (petro - dollar).
A former senior FED official has apologized for the boundless money printing. He recognized the program as the largest back-door Wall Street money machine of all times.
The worst thing is that even though the FED prints so much new money (85 billion dollars a month ) - lending fhas fallen, as the banks use the cheap money for their own speculations in government bonds and gold - and do not direct the money into the real economy. The same is happening in Europe.
It’s good times for the banks: After the prescription by the Clinton administration of the “subprime” mortgages, JP Morgan Chase was the author of the CDO trading with these mortgages - and earned outrageously on it. It got taxpayer bailouts - and continues trading derivatives. A new bubble has been created that can explode at any time. Worldwide, there are interest derivatives worth at least 441 billion dollars which may have to be paid by the taxpayers and savers.
J.P. Morgan Chase Chase now has to pay a symbolic € 13 billion for the scandal that sent the whole world into unemployment and increasing poverty - and broght the bank billions if not trillions of dollars.
JP Morgan Chase has admitted to have deceived the world. Half of the 13 billion dollars will be paid by the taxpayer. It is no punishment, merely an agreement with the government that the Bankers have in their firm grip as bribed lackeys, anyway. Of course, the defrauded investors will not get a cent.
Rothschild´s central bankster robbers have a long list of sins with lies and deceit in which they channel the money of even the poorest of the world into their own pockets - especially JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and the U.S. Fed, which has cruelly stolen the values ​​of the Americans. It is no better in other countries subjected to a Rothschild Central Bank. Those who do not have such a bank are “rogue states”, and they are being imposed Rothschild central banks through wars by the U.S. politician lackeys .
The only respectable and reasonable financial investigator, Bill Still, says for the umpteenth time there is only one solution: states must cease to borrow from the central banks, even print their own money - and prohibit banks from lending money they do not have. Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy did that and were shot.
EU politicians and states are looking for new taxation objects to save their impossible EU-project, meaning a hefty bloodletting for savers and taxpayers.
Now, EU Parliament President Martin Schulz desperately wants to solve the job and debt crisis with new debts - although that proved a catastrophic cure over the past 6 years. But neither the banks nor the enterprises want such credits.
Because EU/IMF credits are associated with increasing austerity measures need is increasing worldwide up to the point of general uprising of the peoples.
Martin Schultz knows and says a project or idea cannot exist if peoples turn their backs on it. He says that the existence of the EU is threatened. Be assured: The EU will not cease without having drawn the last cent out of our pockets - and the last cartridge of Eurogendfor has been fired - against us or the Illuminati. A gigantic Western social and economic collapse is planned so the elite can make good on its motto: Order out of Chaos (which they mus first bring about).
The new junkers come from all over the world. The investors are the new feudal rulers of Europe. They rule with the knout, the debt-whip. They are blowing the horn for hunting Europe. They fire real bullets. Who presents the ECB policy as one-sided, acts “nationalistically” said Draghi. The ECB officials play the role of powerful political commissioners. Their speech is to make the “investors” - i.e. the big banks - happy.
(Deutsche Wirtschaftsnachrichten 22. Nov. 2013).
Desperate EU parliament president, Martin Schultz: “When people turn away from a project or an idea, then at some point it will come to an end.The survival of the EU is threatened” (Deutsche Welle 4 Febr. 2013).
First I ask you to see this video which explains the Global Union of the united
Rothschild/Rockefeller Syndicate. Their tools are their Freemasons.

Saturday 15 February 2014

The Jesuit Oath - (And you thought the Koran was bad)

It is important to explain the context of this blogpage in my world view.
Some aspects of my privileged upbringing drive me nuts, but there are many good aspects.
I was brought up in tolerant sixties Britain. Unlike Northern Ireland where it is important that you know whether you are Protestant or Catholic, I didn't have the slightest inkling what a Catholic was, often confusing them in my brain somehow as Jews. (And here you see early signs of my spirit making connections).

Then a whole raft of us young people had born again experiences, and were later baptised in the Spirit up and down the Misbourne Valley of Buckinghamshire 1971-2. Now as well as the Baptist Church in the neighbouring town of Great Missenden being blessed with new Spirit filled converts, so was the Catholic Church also. We had meetings together and I now blanche at the good grace of the catholic priest who I effectively usurped out of the equation.

In Germany I lived among Spirit-filled Catholics and had to get down to the nitty gritty of what I was prepared to go with. Luckily by now my friends were less Mary orientated, but there was still some ambivalence about praying to saints who specialised in certain things....forgetfulness and keyloss for example. I wrestled with and picked up similar revelation to David Matthews (of Northern Ireland)about the nature of celebrating the Body and Blood of Jesus. My blood ran cold when I caught the eye of a Jesuit who they all raved about. I thought at the time, this guy is dangerous.
Then back to Britain where Gerald Coates was still spouting quite balnd stuff about "there being no real need for Protestantism, as there was pretty much nothing to protest about." And after my time with Catholics, I pretty much agreed.

Isms we protest about.
Bad spirits that lead people astray from the Living Jesus we protest about.
But people remain pretty much, people.

With one proviso.

Proverbs talks about the smile with the secret agenda behind it.
And generally speaking in the charismatic movement we have been totally naive.
Since the second world war and the setting up of the United Nations, followed by the Fall of the Berlin Wall there has been a tendency in the West to think like Agag in the Old Testament: "Surely the bitterness of death is past".

But there has been no real unpacking of what went wrong, that Germany should fall to Hitler, that Russia should fall to Communism, that Vietnam should occur, that America should break up a perfectly valid democracy under General Allende. And ofcourse the reason this is not truly unpacked is because the same forces have caused it all, and those forces are still extant in the earth.

Evil spirits live on and drive men to carry out their deeds in secret in much the same vein as in all of history.

So when we as youngsters read Proverbs in the UK in the 70s it seemed that everyone was trustworthy and the verses weren't really relevant anymore because man had grown wiser.

Right under our noses ofcourse
Ted Heath was lying about the Common Market (that is wasn't going to be a Federal State of Europe
The Anglican Church of England is being totally run by the Jesuit order of Malta , under a Queen who gives permission because she herself is order of Malta, and her husband is the figurehead of freemasonry in Britain. Go figure that one when you read the Jesuit Oath!!!
Jimmy Saville, the darling of BBC Saturday night viewing was a pedophile and some say necrophile, and procurer of children for sex.

So in fact, everything about Proverbs is absolutely correct, and the people who are the most foolish are those who LEAST SUSPECT IT TO BE SO like the gullible English who have been taken for an enormous ride at just about every level, as has indeed the whole Earth too.

So the point in posting this piece on Jesuitry is not to arouse a mob to kill them, but to awaken us to secret agendas, and to not always do the English thing of accepting everything so naively.

My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
(Text of the Oath:)
I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. 
That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)
(Superior speaks:)
You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges; the other answers Impious. The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:
From whither do you come? Answer: The Holy faith.
Whom do you serve? Answer: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.
Who commands you? Answer: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.
Who received you? Answer: A venerable man in white hair.
How? Answer: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.
Did you take an oath? Answer: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, nor sex, nor condition; to be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring.
Will you do that? Answer: I will.
How do you travel? Answer: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.
Whither do you travel? Answer: To the four quarters of the globe.
For what purpose? Answer: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfil the conditions of my oaths.
Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.

Friday 14 February 2014

so how does the Body hold together?

Eph4:16 .....Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
1. This Body is ONLY held together by that which every joint supplies. So if you can see a "Body" that is not held together in this way...perhaps it's held by a name, and organisation name, a particular pastor,leader,vicar priest...none of this is the Body of Christ.
2. by what every joint supplies. So does this mean any type of donation? For example, I've heard at least 2 stories over 40 years of converted strippers offering to strip free of charge for their new churches during a meeting. You laugh. But how many professors and businessmen are freely accepted to run charismatic,evangelical and denominational churches? We noted in the 80s that a good many new churches in the UK were all run by ex headmasters and in some cases by current headmasters. the tools of running a school were deemed the appropriate gifts to running churches.
In Spirit terms this is no different from accepting strippers to ply their trade in a church service.
3. The supply is specific. It is not spelled out in the Bible because in those days it was obvious. It is only now we have lunatic versions of churches. They used to be founded in grace. Founded in the Word of grace.Founded in the Spirit impartation of faith. Faith as SUBSTANCE. As thirdlevellers we learn to articualte this as Christ substance. That is what the Church is held together by. If you've got some Christ...share Him. He's as real in the Spirit as use the marketing lingo in the businessworld. Churches are filled with seminary trained individuals that have knowledge about an out there Christ, some far off God...but they actually have very little Christ to impart. They rattle like empty cans.
4. "the proper working" is similar to point 3, but it can be spelled out this way, Your authentic being is hidden in Christ. Mature ones in Christ have found their own Christ being. They have let the Spirit strip off the figleaves. The fakeries. They have trained their senses in righteousness. The Word of Hebrews 4 has cut to the separation of soul and spirit oas of joints and marrow.They know the pain. But what you experience is their joy and bubbliness at having been set free. For them it meant death, but for you, luscious life and peace. This is what holds the Body of Christ together. Multitudes of folks who live move and act from out of the resurrection side of the Cross.
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Tuesday 11 February 2014

TEF18 - The Other Lamb by Daniel Yordy

We are transformed by the renewing of our minds. We are transformed as the true Lamb replaces the other lamb.

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© Daniel Yordy 2013

There are two lambs in the Bible, not one. The second lamb is not incidental or peripheral. In fact, we find that the second lamb is more prominent in church history than the first. The second lamb is the other Main thing. If the second lamb did not exist, the beast would have no power in the church. Although outwardly the Lamb wages war with the Beast, inwardly, in our minds and hearts, in the womb of the church, the true Lamb wages a war of life or death against the other lamb. It is a war of faith.

We are transformed by the renewing of our minds. We are transformed as the true Lamb replaces the other lamb. Much of Jesus' effort during His ministry was to break the hold of the other lamb, the Pharisees' definition of God, that would have kept His hearers from receiving Him.

Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. Revelation 13:11

In John's vision, the “sea” pictures to us all non-Christians while the earth refers to nominal Christianity. The dividing line in the church for God is the altar of incense. Those who enter into the chastisement of God in the travail of the Spirit, He marks. Those who remain happy Christians will most certainly find blessing; they just won't enter into the Holiest at present. They remain, in the present season, as the earth.

A lamb's horns begin to grow around six months. Thus, the Passover lamb, at one year old, would have had horns a few inches long. Horns are common to male lambs, so the true Lamb also would have had horns. Yet these horns are mentioned, which means they are significant.

Two horns represent power. Have you ever seen two fully horned rams butt heads in full fury? I have not seen rams, but I have seen male goats do so. You would not want to stand between. In this case, the horns represent the power of the forehead. It's interesting, but whenever a bully attempted to do his thing to me, the image that was left in my mind was the thrusting forward of the forehead, the strength of the brow. Though I have known many bullies, I was never susceptible to them. No matter how much their words hurt me, I simply turned my back and continued on. I did not fight back, but neither did I come under that forehead.

There are two kinds of power, the power of life and the power of death. On the two lambs, the horns look the same, but the one Lamb carries us into life, and the other drives into death.

Both lambs are Christ in the church. The one Lamb carries all for real; the other lamb is an image of Christ that has dominated Christianity since the passing of John.

But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Revelation 2:6 – the church of Ephesus, representing the early church under the apostles.

Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth. Revelation 2:15-16 – the church of Pergamos, the compromised church, beginning in AD 311 and culminating in Augustine's version of The City of God.

“Nicolaitans” is a form of the Greek, nike, that is, overcome. It is interesting that the definition of God, of Jesus, of man, and of salvation that rules almost all Christianity is the Nicene Creed, nike, Nicolaitan, coming out of the church compromised under Constantine and defined under the influence of alcohol.

But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

If the guy on the white horse, conquering and to conquer, is not Christ, then it likely refers in a significant way to Constantine and the definition of “the conquering” Christ that came into the church by him, that is Apollo, the sun god, the one who defeats his enemies by hacking them to pieces. In fact, having written already concerning this white horse fellow, I lean more now to seeing it as the Other lamb. That does not remove the truth I shared earlier.

This is a very realistic way to understand church history. Inside this same time period, as part of the same severe alteration of Christian understanding, the statue of Jupiter, the god of Rome, was given a new name, Peter. You can go to Rome today and see endless lines of Christians kissing the feet of Jupiter, the exact same piece of stone worshiped by the pagan Romans, yet these Christians call that piece of stone, Peter.

In the same way, Apollo, the sun god of the Greeks, was given a new name – Christ. Constantine, the Beast in that place at that time, needed the Nicene Christ in order to control the church.

The Nicene Creed presents to us the Nicolaitan Christ. On almost any Christian website that has a “What We Believe” page, you click on that page and you find the Nicene Creed.

You see, if you have arrived at a place where the great argument is between whether Jesus was God the Son, having taken human flesh on momentarily versus whether Jesus was a man who showed us a little bit of God, if that is your debate, you've already bought into the entire second lamb, the entire Nicolaitan Christ.

The Debate at the Nicene Council was a debate between Nicolaitans and Nicolaitans. Neither the debate nor any “side” has anything to do with us. God is not what they think.

There is only ONE picture and definition of God given to the entire universe: a Man laying down His life for His friends. We know Him only by placing ourselves utterly inside of Him all the way through.

“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.” John 14:7-10

The Nicene Creed presents to us the Nicolaitan Christ. On almost any Christian website that has a “What We Believe” page, you click on that page and you find the Nicene Creed.

There is a great human lust to turn these words into fodder for argument and debate. Those who do so already love the second lamb.

There is one way only by which we can know these words of Jesus. That is by knowing these following words of Jesus: In that day you shall know that I am in the Father and you in Me and I in you. John 14:20

If you do not know these words, then don't let go of God until you do. We will never come to the end of knowing these words, therefore, we will never let go of God revealing Himself in us.

The Nicolaitan Christ is an image created by looking at, and thus engaging in debate over ideas. The true Lamb is known by looking out from, through eyes of fire, and thus the words – AND WE ALSO.

In that day you shall know that I am in the Father and you in Me and I in you. John 14:20

That is the gospel according to Paul; it is the revelation of John. John 14:10 and John 14:20 are the same; they can never be separated.

Look through the Nicene Creed; make note of the severe separation between God and man, all the way through. The Nicene lamb defeats his enemies by hacking them to pieces. The true Lamb carries even His enemies inside Himself all the way into life.

The Nicene lamb's power is forehead only; in the end, he is a wimp. Yet this is the Superman “Christ” that most Christians look for to come. The true Lamb is real power, the power that turns enemies into friends, the power who arises from beneath of us and carries us in His tender arms all the way into life.

Man is the image and likeness of God; man is God revealed. God is known to us only by a Man, a Man laying down His life for His friends – AND WE ALSO. This is God; know Him.

Now, you can see that I am recasting what I shared in my series: The Kingdom Rising, particularly the chapters, Christ Versus Superman, Must We Repent of Augustine, Defining God and Man, The Weakness of God, and The Foolishness of God. I want to continue, here, attempting to re-cast this second lamb in the light of John's vision.

Let's position the battle. There are actually two battles going on simultaneously. One is the battle between the true Lamb and the false in the hearts and minds of believers, the second is the battle between the Lamb through us and the Beast regarding the inheritance, that is, possession of the earth. I have an upcoming article on the second called “The Battle.” The first battle is casting down the accuser; it is the battle of the lambs. Which lamb do you follow?

I have shared before that when I was 21 years old, I heard the words “and THEY shall nourish her there” (Revelation 12) presented as a calling from God, a Sending, a Mission. In my own private heart before the Lord, I raised my hand. “Yes, Lord, I would like to answer that Call.” I was just a boy; I did not know how such a thing could be possible.

“And they shall nourish her there” is at the core of the first battle. It is the warfare in which I am engaged by every word I write. My desire is to change your mind by the Spirit of God and by speaking all that God speaks.
“and THEY shall nourish her there” 

Let's present the two foreheads just before they hit head on.

I will fight against them with the sword of My mouth versus and spoke like a dragon: Did God indeed say?

This is what I have written in every letter I send out.

The enemy has sown his word into the church, as Jesus said.

The truth of God is found all through Christian theology, but so are the words of the serpent, “Did God really say that.” It is almost impossible to separate the words of the serpent from Christ; everyone who has tried only rips out truth right along with the lies, creating a whole new arrangement of serpent word mixed with Christ word.

Almost everyone I know who left the move of God, the fellowship of communities in which I once lived, threw out the truth right along with the lies. Most have completely forgotten the vision God once birthed in their hearts.

Almost everyone I know who discovers a new revelation in God that they had not known before, turns and attacks those verses they once regarded. That is, they don't attack the verses, they just attack those who imagine that those particular verses are actually God speaking. Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is judgment cannot even see any of the blessing verses in the Bible. Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is blessing cannot even see any of the judgment verses in the Bible.

That's why Jesus said, “Don't remove the lies until the time of the end.”

There is one group of people only who are capable of ripping out the lies without harming one thing God speaks. They are the ones who live utterly and only inside of John 14:20, who eat of the tree of life, who tremble when God speaks in ALL that He speaks, who engage with God until He fulfills every single Word of Christ in their lives in all fulness. Those who say with Mary, “Let it be to me according to Your word.”

Those who call those things that be not as though they are. Those who have God in their mouths. Those who refuse to speak anything God does not speak. Those who speak all that He speaks as their very and only life.

Speak Christ. Some of you who read this still see yourself and speak of yourself as if you are other than Christ Jesus. Let the true Lamb win. Let His victory be finished.

Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is judgment cannot even see any of the blessing verses in the Bible. Those who believe that God's whole purpose for us in this life is blessing cannot even see any of the judgment verses in the Bible.

You see, it's a simple equation. Either the Lamb carries us or the lamb commands us. The first is Salvation, the second is existential hopelessness. No matter how powerful, how assertive, or how anointed are those who preach a lamb commanding from the outside of us, they never, themselves measure up. Never. All fall short; all fail to achieve His glory. And here's the thing, in the end, the promoters of a lamb who commands are dishonest. They will never admit their failure to obey perfectly. And remember, if you disobey God just once, one little, tiny bit, you have disobeyed Him in all.

Command and control is the opposite of God's order, the opposite of the body of Christ.

All present human government operates under the full spectrum of command and control. It is the curse spoken by God, the certain outcome of drawing one's heart and mind away from Christ our life to a false self.

But here I do not want to speak of the Beast in the world, but of the other lamb in the church. And yes, science and technology does come into the human experience out of that other lamb. That's why science blesses and curses at the same time. That's why the same technologies that do so much good also do so much evil.

Suddenly, I am beginning to see the story of the scroll sealed with seven seals, the opening of those seals, and the seal of God upon His own, from Revelation 5:1 through 8:1 in a clearer light, though not all the way clear yet. The guy on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 sure looks like Christ, the problem is, he doesn't feel like Christ and that which follows certainly is not that which flows out of Christ.

Command and control is the opposite of God's order, the opposite of the body of Christ.

Yet calling the guy on the white horse a coming “Antichrist,” that is, some future world dictator, does not describe any form of reality in the church.

Here is what we see. The Nicene Christ was established by imperial law in AD 325 (It was the Beast who commanded all to regard the Nicene Christ only, and actually killed those who would not). By AD 385 the first Christian was killed by other Christians (peace taken from the earth). That was the same year Jerome began his translation of the Bible into Latin, and the same year that Augustine began to write The City of God.

There are two definitions of Christ, two images of Christ, two lambs all the way down through church history. The problem is not antichrist, but Christ falsely defined. Almost all of Christianity regards the other lamb. Now, I wrote about the seals in my letter, “Overcome.” Yet, reading back, I don't see anything to change. We are walking up a path upon which we have never trod. Everything looks different to us every few feet up that path. Truth does not change, but our seeing does.

The guy on the white horse is not the antichrist, but Christ far above, Christ far away, Christ coming only some day, the Christ as most of Christianity has defined Him to be, and that image is, in the end, anti-Christ.

The chief characteristic of this Christ, this other lamb, is that He is far separate from the earth, far separate from our lowly, fleshy, sinful lives right now. The testimony of the church for 1900 years is that Christ Jesus is absent from the earth, and that He has appointed certain powers in church and state to take His place. Read the reasoning underneath the role of the pope in the church. I will bring in a most clear example here.

This is excerpts from a recent article, “Benedict the Brave,” by Judge Andrew Napolitano found at the following link. I highly respect Judge Napolitano as a political thinker and would never make light of his religious understanding. I do not quote him to call him “wrong,” but simply to clarify the thinking of so many. Jesus does what He wills with His own, and He asks no man's pleasure. He asks only that we receive all who call themselves by His name in just the same way that He receives us. The article refers to the recent resignation of Pope Benedict.

When Jesus established the papacy, the gospels report that he told St. Peter: "Amen I say to you: You are Peter, and upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." These words are emblazoned in Latin across the front of St. Peter’s Basilica... But the Petrine ministry is more than work. And being Papa Petrus is not a job; it is a calling in which a man has been chosen by the direct descendants of the 12 apostles as agents of God to be the Vicar of Christ on Earth.

When Benedict was elected to the papacy in 2005, I wept with joy that such a faithful custodian of the Church’s teachings and traditions and such a worthy bridge to Christ in heaven had been chosen by the cardinals... The Holy Spirit must have recognized all of this, as well, as He sent us Pope John Paul II, the rock star, to blaze a path where no pope had gone before – touching millions of youths with language they understood – and then He sent us Pope Benedict XVI, the lion of orthodoxy, to lay down the intellectual mechanisms for travels along that path. The path is the bridge to heaven. The way to travel upon it is personal sanctity. The first traveler is the Holy Father.

But some, like Benedict, are called to more than just personal sanctity. Benedict was called to carry a cross of personal sacrifice, as well... The essence of Jesus’s suffering was His decision to eschew the exercise of power and submit to His Father’s will... When Benedict decided that the mystical body of Christ needed another bridge to heaven, he, too, gave up power and glory that he, too, could easily have exercised and retained. He, too, searched his conscience in a supreme effort to elevate submission to divine will above personal preference.

Such a quiet, personal, Christ-like submission of the will is not the essence of a rock star; it is the essence of a Rock. Human salvation has been advanced immeasurably because the Church had both popes at its helm – each to complement the other in ways we could not have imagined.


Now, before anyone cries foul against the Pope, we must understand that the same reasoning underneath this view of the Pope is underneath almost all Christian view of Christ.

Right now, at this moment, Christ is absent from the earth. In His absence, He has assigned certain individuals to take His place in our lives. You can call them Popes or pastors, bishops or apostles, priests or elders, it makes no difference; we define all of them by the absence of Christ.

Everyone who speaks of the soon return of the Lord Jesus, His coming, define that Christ as one who is presently absent. As Preston Eby teaches so clearly in Looking for His Appearing, that is not how the writers of the New Testament understood the words they used to speak of His appearing. They never saw Him as absent.

I was taught that the elders and apostles in the church stood in the place of Christ towards me and that their role in my life was to help me not follow my own wicked heart as it attempted to take me away from obedience to Christ. Thus I was required to submit to the elders and apostles as a whole as unto Christ if I desired to connect with the salvation of God being revealed in the earth.

This is no different from any Christian thought, any church thought, that Christ is absent from the earth in the present moment and that he is represented in authority by His appointed substitutes.

And from this same view and reasoning, the absent Christ has also given a measure of His authority to kings, to presidents, to human governments. They rule in the earth “by divine right,” (and not by the prince of this world).

And thus, this absent Christ rules by power over, a top-down hierarchy of command and control. “Know your place.” A sister wrote to me that her pastor recently told her that “by rebelling against my covering you have exposed yourself to demonic activity.”

“Do what I say or demons will get you.” This is not the Lamb of God, it is the other lamb. Jesus lives in their hearts, yes, they just don't know it.

A brother wrote to me recently for my perspective on how to reply to a brother who sent him the following note:

Jesus was crucified Wednesday mid week; rose after 3 full days and full nights on Sunday... He breathed the Holy Spirit upon His disciples and ascended into heaven that Sunday evening taking Satan captive. He again appears to the disciples on various occasions until His final departure to heaven when He promises the Power of the Holy Spirit. The thousand years is not an exact 1000 years; it is metaphorical, representing a long extended period of time. Satan is in heaven condemning the Saints before God. He will be cast down to earth for a short time and earth's woes really begin. Jesus will return, the great Resurrection will take place of the Wheat and the Tares...

Here is my reply:

First, much of what he says are true facts held by him as knowledge. He obtains no life from them, but rather, uses them as debate points. The primary thing missing is the mystery of the gospel, Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Now, when I read your article, I see a true heart desire to know the Lord Jesus as He is in you. When I read this brother's words, I do not see such a thing. That desire may be there in his heart underneath of knowledge, but it is not the guide of his words.

As you well know, to most of our brethren, correct knowledge is everything, knowing Jesus as life inside is peripheral. "Jesus lives in my heart," is, for most, a cute Sunday School saying.

Although some of his facts may be "correct," yet they are seen out from a perspective that causes both the "not correct" stuff and the skewed understanding of the true facts. You see, facts are facts, but how we interpret them, where they fit in our scheme of things, is entirely dependent on what overall theory we apply. Because of that, discussing facts against facts is a waste of time, because you are speaking out from utterly conflicted theories.

Some might say, "Well, if God isn't speaking to the brother, then there's nothing you can say that would penetrate into his heart." And that can often be true. The problem with that "Calvinist" viewpoint, though, is that God is in you, in your words. God does move in power as you expect Him to, the Holy Spirit will attend your words. Yet allow them to move out from His seeing.

In one sense, theory gives answer to three specifics: motive, means, and opportunity. I realize I'm mixing science with jurisprudence, but it works. In fact, I like this. I will develop this further in later writing.

This brother's theory is 100% Augustinian, though he does not know that. In Augustinian theory, God's motive is to rescue a bunch of unworthy sinners and take them to an undeserved future in heaven in order to re-populate His heavenly city with worshipers. The means is something back then, someone up there, and something some day. Do you see how absent the Lord Jesus is from His body by this brother's facts? And the opportunity has two parts: 1. subscribe to correct doctrine and 2. attend the right church (be under the right authority structure).

Here is the theory that I teach.

Motive: God desires to be seen and known and touched by His creation through man, His image, through a company of sons, just like Jesus, the express image of the Father. Motive is the first part of theory, and thus, Romans 8:29 must be the most important verse in the Bible.

Means: A seed planted in the earth. Now, I kept that short, but it is very large - it contains all that Christ is. When we say "seed," we mean the metaphor of both kinds of seed, plant seed and human seed. The metaphor of a seed is what the entire Bible is written around from Genesis to Revelation. Every fact in the Bible appears in a different light and fits in a different place by that metaphor. In contrast, the "back then, up there, someday" means of Nicene Christianity creates disjointed events and occurrences, evident in the brother's layout of facts.

Opportunity: In that day you shall know that I am in the Father and you in Me and I in you. You know, that says it all. All that is Salvation carries all that we are and all that is Salvation fills us as our very life – Christ Jesus, our only life. We could go on endlessly.

The problem is that these two theories are mutually exclusive. No part of one can be found in the other. Yet they each gather into themselves the same facts. That's why most believers, coming across my writing, no matter how they might be drawn to particulars, facts they recognize, yet they end up bouncing off. There is no way they can buy into the theory I teach without letting go of all their Nicene theory. It requires a total transfer.

And that's why so much of what I write is an open and clearly defined assault against the Nicene theory. The facts will easily find their rightful place whenever a heart is truly won to Christ and to life.

So, let's look at the brother's facts. The narrative of the gospel places Jesus' death on Friday, not Wednesday. Jesus' words, "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," force some zealous souls to say, "No, He had to be crucified on Wednesday, and since I believe "correct" doctrine, I have the opportunity to progress." But Jesus spoke a Spirit Word out of God's all-pervasive metaphor of a seed planted in the earth. Yes, for three thousand years, Jesus in Person is planted in the earth of humanity to bring forth all the purposes of God as us and through us.

Then, the layout of Jesus' victory over Satan – you see how it is a series of disconnected events with no reference to a seed that must be planted. We can say, "Satan is fully defeated," AND "Satan will be fully defeated," both at the same time without contradiction. It is the same thing as holding one bean seed in one hand and many bean seeds in the other. This one seed was planted in the earth, it birthed a plant, out of which came these many seeds, just like the original one. The one defeating the accuser becomes the many defeating the accuser. In the brother's disjointed arrangement of facts, there is no place for the many coming forth as the one seed that birthed them.

And the someday coming of Christ as an event taking place apart from this brother requires that he be among those who weep in shame. Christ in us is our only hope of glory. Those who see Him outside of themselves weep. The false means of Nicene Christianity results in missed opportunity. That the life of Jesus also might be apocalypsed in our mortal flesh.

Opportunity requires bodies of weakness. When the bodies of weakness are no more, the opportunity ceases. Wow, this is a great way to explain things!


As I said, the unveiling of Jesus Christ is a path yet untrod. It is very much in my heart to share with you the path up which I am being led, thus I include my progression of thought. But I tell you what! I am excited about developing more fully this conflict between two theories of the gospel, the battle of the lambs.

The Lamb of God is never absent from the earth. He is here now in all ways in all fulness, walking this earth in His body, as us. This is the mystery, the secret, and when He is unveiled, He will catch all of His enemies utterly unawares. But that's coming up in “The Battle.” When I write six articles at the same time, I have to be sure I put things in the right letter.

This letter is about the other lamb. Both lambs are found in a church. In fact, we can understand the other lamb as we go back and forth between him and his church. Let's attempt to define both, though we will investigate the other lamb's woman in a later article.

Let's re-iterate the theory of Nicene Christianity; we are describing the Nicene Christ. All of this takes place inside of separation; all of it comes out of the tree of knowledge.

Motive: God's motive is to rescue a bunch of unworthy sinners and take them to an undeserved future in heaven in order to re-populate His heavenly city with worshipers.

Inside this motive, image, then, has become thus: since God is a self-conscious Person, so we are self-conscious persons, higher than the animals. As Aquinas said, “Hence it is according to his intelligence and reason that man is said to be according to the image of God.” In other words, we are the image of God because we eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, right and wrong, because we are independent and isolated persons.

Inside the woman, the response to this motive is the telling of a very different story. It requires the creation of eternal torment, an idea not found in the first two hundred years of Christian thinking. It requires the creation of a far-away heaven as our eternal “home,” where we will float in bliss forever. Oh how the story was twisted by the Nicene Christ. I must write more on it than the space in this letter allows.

Means: The means is something back then, someone up there, and something some day.

God accomplishes His purposes in the earth by sending God the Son into something abnormal for God, a momentary clothing of human flesh, in which Jesus was punished for sin, that is, God the Father unleashed all of His hatred and anger for sin against God the Son. This Jesus is now far away from man, far away from this earth, looking down from afar, yes, but also begging God not to punish us. Someday, far in the future, this same Jesus will come back to earth to punish all sinners, that is, all those who failed to take advantage of the opportunity. He will also reward those who did correctly take advantage of the opportunity.

Inside the woman, then, the response to this means of God is, to put it quite bluntly, idolatry. She “deifies” this far-away “savior.” That is, she puts him high on a pedestal in her imagination and grovels before him. She turns the apostles into demigods and the Bible into magic. She worships the saints. She worships the crucifix. She wails over the passion of the Christ. And I am not just speaking of Catholics. Deifying the King James Version of the Bible is identical to any Catholic worship of saints. Deifying the modern nation of Israel is the same, as is pledging allegiance to flags and killing people for Jesus, that is, praying for the troops.

You see, the evangelical, the charismatic, and the deeper truth church has approached the true life of Christ, yes. But they allow the present salvation of Jesus to find its place ONLY inside a Nicene Christ; they define everything by the same definitions as the Catholics. Even many who teach union see union as with a Nicene Christ.

Opportunity: The opportunity has two parts: 1. subscribe to correct doctrine and 2. attend the right church (be under the right authority structure).

These two things often go hand in hand. To the Catholics, correct doctrine is to mouth agreement with the Pope, and to partake of the Sacraments. At the same time, being under the “covering” of the priest who administers the Sacraments is essential. Yet Protestant opportunity is only different in appearance, not in substance. For most evangelicals, correct doctrine IS the Nicene Creed. “Be sure to go to church” is also essential.

And it is true, if you differ from the Nicene Creed on any point, you are considered lost by most Christians I know, no matter how much you think you trust in Jesus.

In the woman opportunity always takes the form of human works, of human righteousness, of man walking the path of atonement himself. In the move of God, it was “perfect obedience,” the same old same old. At the same time, the terrible threat of “the life of Jesus manifest in our mortal flesh” must be eliminated. Thus the flesh is turned into the enemy, utterly evil and down-pulling.

Part of Nicolaitan is the sharp division between ministry and laity, victory over the laity. The ministry have an in with God, the laity are utterly fleshy and under the control of Christ ONLY by obeying the ministry in all things. This attitude is actually more pronounced in deeper truth circles than anywhere besides Catholicism. I see now that there were a number of things in the move, the fellowship I was a part of for many years, that were a return to Catholicism and not to Christ, things which short-circuited the wonderful teaching of Christ in us, things that won out in the end over “see Christ in your brother.” We saw the flesh instead, the flesh as the enemy.
You see, the evangelical, the charismatic, and the deeper truth church has approached the true life of Christ, yes. But they allow the present salvation of Jesus to find its place ONLY inside a Nicene Christ; they define everything by the same definitions as the Catholics. Even many who teach union see union as with a Nicene Christ.

I heard the Nicene Christ proclaimed at church just a few weeks ago. “Jesus IS coming back.” And through those words came the iron of savage separation. It is the battle of the lambs. All of the facts of the Bible and of the gospel are found in both lambs. (Except that the Nicene lamb will not touch the two most important verses of the Bible and utterly limits and waters down the other seven.) Yet all the facts of the Bible and of the gospel are arranged in an entirely different order from one Lamb to the Other.

You see, here is the problem in full. No one believes that we are the body of Christ.

Everyone has been fooled by the Master Military Strategist of the universe. He has a purpose up His sleeve, a purpose more wonderful and glorious than we can imagine.

God is filled with hope; we are His hope.