Showing posts with label pentecostal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label pentecostal. Show all posts

Wednesday, 23 December 2015

The Kingdom Has 12 Gates


21st Dec Facebook
Tonight I have in my email an invitation to some World pentecostal Fire event, including some invitation to join leaders in Europe. You would think....Fire. You would
think something that will boost the gospel and the Word of God going abroad. Also a chance to "become more effective" by being with other "proven leaders".
Here's my response.................

God anointed me with Fire in 1972 which i took into school at 13.
Within 2 short years the school revival was nothing but about 15 remaining faithful embers.
The devil faced pentecostal fire and found it laughably easy to shut us down. Looking back he did it through Freemasonry. Something I knew nothing about. He did it through Anglicans.
It was easy.
Now since then I have been in smaller moves. I also know Paul wrote that it is needful that every work of God be tested, and that wolves will come and quickly attempt to rip everything to shreds.
We read something similar in Revelation12.
But this, and also meeting thirdlevellers (1 John 2) people drew me up short.
I spent a decade with people who are now at the level that IHOP is. We literally sought God. That is what we did. it DOES put a foundation in you....but without the clear foundation that Norman Grubb explains in Yes I am, with a greater clarity than Mother Basilea Schlink, pastor Wurmbrand or even Ed Miller....many of those who were with me....where are they now 30 years later? Many are dead. Many are blown out by life's crisises.
So join some world Conference? Why would i waste my time?
Listen.
If you are not going to read the Word, why would i waste time with you?
It specifically describes 2 similar events in the gospels.
2 Fishing trips.
They returned with nothing and both times Jesus directed them where to fish. Both bumper harvests.
The first time they were not co ordinated, and their nets broke.
Much of the haul was lost.
The second time they were co ordinated, and like they experienced a few days later fishing for people in Acts 2....the nets didn't break and they were moving as one.
Ah? say the pentecostals. There's the trick. We move as one. let's have a conference!!!
No you mistake it all.
The disciples weren't one because of a conference. They were one after entering willingly into the WAY 3 and half years earlier. The WAY led them to the truth.....They were useless.
But here God could meet them and break open the LIFE like wells from within.
I hate pentecostalism. I hate any form of Christianity which doesn't build on the Rock of Jesus, the Rock of overturning Genesis 3 and the entire delusion.
Why would i want anything to do with your hyped up seminars? Your machinery which replaces the genuine Life of God? The attempts to fill in your evident lack of the knowledge of God's ways by plugging the gap with faith, and miracles, and all sorts of things which are secondary to your own great rebellion.
The LOG in all your eyes.
You want YOU.
In everything you do it's all about YOU.
You are orphans still and you abide alone because you have never obeyed the call to fall into the ground and really die.
And what does it say about such? It says they abide alone.
So the only thing left is to plug the evident lacks with more rubbing the Aladdin's lamp. More prayer. More all nights. More conferences. More streetpreaching.....more just desperation instead of finally coming home to your God.
So no. I haven't the slightest interest in your conferences. I want to be in events like Evan Roberts flat on his face while a nation awakens all round him. I want the strong version of where we left off in Lakeland 2008. The genuine Melchizedek Order experienced in full force among a eunuch leadership.
Please I am not anti miracles. Just try and stop them when God is around. He doesn't even know He's doing them...because He keeps forgetting the laws that He originally designed here.
But anything that happens isn't then coming from a forced orphan desperation that feel there have to be miracles to show God is there. God is everywhere there. The problem is you have Darkness and you don't want Him to be everywhere there. In the end Todd Bentley did what I did years ago, and chose a woman instead. He was the bold one who initiated the Move.....generally God prefers a group of bold ones. Todd seemed almost surprised that the whole thing fell apart. Well....like the new Cart episode with King David.....God never asked to be brought in on a cart.
Bless David for His zeal. Bless David for his boldness. But sometimes boldness without the blueprint is just stupid.
Pentecostalism isn't the blueprint. It owns about two or three Gates of Jerusalem. The Fountain Gate, the Water Gate and maybe these days quite a bit of the Horse Gate.
We aren't building Pentecostalism. We are building the Kingdom.
The Kingdom has 12 Gates.
That's the blueprint.
If you don't know them, that's your problem. You should have learned them.
So no....I have no interest in your type of Conferences.

On GATES......
The thing God has been doing by the Spirit and as announced by Arthur Wallis in the early Fountain Trust meeting.....has been a literal raising up of all the Gates that have been smashed to pieces. That our generation and the ones before were literal Nehemiahs in the Spirit seems to have bypassed.us all.....but yet it has been true without us even realising. See while Terry Virgo and Salt and Light have been building their pyramids and 12 step programmes and reformed theology courses.....and while Pentecostals have been running around like headless.chickens......what God has actually been doing is layer the teachings of Romans Ephesians Colossians and Hebrews again in quiet but unfathomable power. Nothing can beat the power of these doctrines.seizing people's.hearts.....even baptism in Spirit which is wonderful cannot plug the centuries of.neglect and symbolic understanding and lack of revelation around what Paul.was sharing with the early apostles concerning the ground zero brokenness that they and King David had all come into. If people do.a.walk in the Spirit around these Gates then they become complete in Christ and not just some Barnum figure selling his Holy Spirit potions of the back of a market wagon.

Thursday, 6 September 2012

The Sticking Point of the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movement

Something like David's new cart, as he confidently brought the Ark of the Covenant back from its exile towards Jerusalem, the charismatic and pentecostal movements also  hit a bump in the road.

You can tell a bump in the road, an obstacle. It's the point beyond which churches do not move. Pastors repeat the same sermon over and over again in different forms, with ever greater frustration and pressure on the sheep.
And if they don't get John 15, it doesn't get easier going through John 16 and 17.

Perhaps it is true to say this is precisely where everyone lost hope with Maurice Smith's John 17 prophecy.

Around 1974 having just read Brother Lawrence's book , Marcus Roberts and I were on a bus, thinking we'd like to try practicing "Praying Constantly"...or "Abiding".

Hmm....didn't even make it to the end of the bus journey!

And it doesn't matter how much pastors lean on this concept of the importance of Abiding in the Vine, it still gets no nearer becoming reality in charismatic and pentecostal frameworks.

And there is a very simple reason.
It's the same reason that repentance actually comes from the Greek words meta and nous....metanoia.
Or  meta...moving out beyond the confines of....and nous....(nowce) the conscious thinking mind....or leftbrain sliver at the frontal cortex of our brain.

The conscious mind doesn't do abiding!. It's not meant to. It's meant to be given different tasks to solve.To think about. To plan.Once it's completed it's task, it doesn't just hover in the air feeling content to do nothing. It wants the next thing to get its teeth stuck into.

So everywhere in the world, these poor charismatic and pentecostal pastors are piling on more and more pressure to get a piece of us doing something it was never geared to do, and getting more and more frustrated at the failure.

YOU CAN'T MAKE JOHN 15 WORK IN THE LEFTBRAIN.

Proverbs 3 puts it this way.
Trust in the Lord with ALL of the BIT that can handle the Lord, and Abiding....namely the Heart.
And don't rely on that slender bit of restrictive apparatus that can only work with the limited parameters of sense information that you give it to work with.

It cannot work with a Kingdom that is appearing out of nowhere, out of the heavenlies.
Now the leftbrain will say, like any confident atheist,....there....the fact that I cannot see the Kingdom tells me I can confidently relay that you Christians are speaking a load of tosh.

Nope. All it's saying is that bit of the Kingdom that HAS ARRIVED...that the leftbrain now exploits and calls evolutionary appearance under man's own steam....is not the bit of the Kingdom that our heart already perceives from afar off.

So back to abiding?
Proverbs 3 continues to give the lowdown on how abiding works.
Acknowledge God IN ALL YOUR WAYS...driving,building, washing,measuring,laughing, shooting at goals,whatever..... And He will make straight your paths.

Acknowledge does not mean try your hardest to think continually about...
Acknowledge means tip your hat to...
Expect and trust in God's Life within you to settle itself within the context of that particular task.
As the disciples asked Jesus....
John6:28 -29Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”
In our context we trust in that Life that is Christ within us 

to get us to that place of Abiding
in whatever sphere of life we are acknowledging.

This is a very similar principle to the principle of balance when we are learning to ride a bike.

We have to believe that eventually "flow"...or grace....or however you call the Life of Christ will rise to undergird us.  First comes trust. Taking God's Word over us by faith.

But the Pentecostal charismatic technique of revving ourselves up enough in the Presence of God in a meeting, or "our quiet" time, and then, quickly as possible getting into a task before the Presence of God dissipates...is NOT TRUST.
And It's NO WAY TO LIVE.
And it actually blocks the people of God from ever moving into chapters 15-17 of St John's gospel as a reality.  In short. Galations calls that state being bewitched, because we are relying on things other than God to do that which only He does within us.