More Personally, and about Lydia Joy Shatney and others

very encouraging email from John Stevens

Hi Chris,

Over the years I think it would be true to say you've spent more time outside church than I have but I'm now more than a year away from regular Sunday morning attendance and general church involvement.

So...gives one time to reflect.

Was sitting down strumming my guitar the other day and realised it was a bit out of tune. A bit lazily I tuned the strings to the bass E and it was improved enough to enjoy playing but not quite perfect. Sometime soon I'll probably get fed up tuning it to the E or the A and tune each string in reference to software on my phone/tablet.

Thought then of you and pianos and then of church. Vague memories of hearing you or someone saying that you actually don't tune each string to perfect pitch as that doesn't quite give the best sound?

What's the place of the best pastors in church. Agree with you that they really don't have to be the 'leader', often they're not! The best pastors are in the congregation! But thinking that you know a pastor when you meet one because they're likely to either be in tune or know how to tune you or enable you to tune you to them. And so the effect of having a few good pastors is a church that just 'feels' in tune. There's love and reality and little social fear. The same problems as the church down the road with all the right doctrines, good teeaching, evocative prophets, but somehow not in tune. But even churches that are lucky to have a good few pastors eventually need a re-set and need to be tuned directly to Jesus.

What I'm getting at here I think is that you have a vision for the third level working on a church wide, body of Christ dimension. When we were colliding with the early charismatic leaders they preached a vision of the body of Christ...certainly my pastor/teacher did - he preached from Call to Discipleship for months just after I was converted just prior to Exeter days. We went to listen to Juan C-O up in London at the Quaker Meeting House. (I discovered that my pastor had little regard for the Highway Code but made a lot of time for honking his horn and swerving the minibus in time with the praise singing in the minibus..but we survived and thrived).

Those days and the vision for the church as taught have stayed deep inside ever since.

But he and I therefore ran aground in Rom 6 and so on. I had to leave and get that knot untied at Roffey...not that they knew there was a knot or that it was untied!

Last thought. Why are you a piano tuner? Piano tuning doesn't play the music but without the tuning the most skilled players can only make a discordant noise. Piano tuning doesn't make the piano or the strings or the pedals.

It's a bit like the piano tuner is in the background...he is an enabler. He's the unsung hero.

It's a spiritual parable.

Keep tuning the pianos. Keep the blog going. You're serving many by being an E or an A in tune. Others tuning themselves to you. They can't be you or you them but they can enjoy their faith that bit more and any ministry/gift they may have that bit more.

Your vision isn't of individual strings making the right sound but of the infinite variety of sound that can be produced when a whole body of believers is in tune. An orchestral vision in fact.

I think Is 62 is a bit like this.

I have posted watchmen on your walls, Jerusalem;
they will never be silent day or night.
You who call on the Lord,
give yourselves no rest,
7
and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem
and makes her the praise of the earth.

Keep going Chris!

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2 photos of Lydia having given birth to a son in 1998 and today

Just gonna leave this right here.....
Some-freaking-how I am managing to raise four boys all on my own and I honestly don't know how -even when people ask me every day I simply say; "I just do it"
When I say on my own I mean on my own, no help from family, no help from their dad and the child support I get is a laughable joke.
But somehow I'm not completely losing my shit and somehow my kids are hanging in there too.
It certainly is a messy, hard as hell, crazy, wild situation, but as crazy as this sounds I wouldn't change it for the world!
Today I am reminded to just BREATHE!!
I've got this thing, right?!!!

writes Lydia Joy Shatney


Julie Anne Morris

https://www.facebook.com/aaronandjuliemusic/

Who are Lydia Joy Shatney, Julie Anne Morris and  a man called Dan Bowen who has recently died?
They may be unknown people to you but in summer 2007 I was googling Ern Baxter details, and found the blog of an English Nurse brought up in Stanley Jebb's Dunstable church called Dan Bowen.

Through Dan Bowen I learned about Ern Baxter's subsequent ministry in UK fellowships and conferences
I learned that Larry Tomczak and CJ Mahaney had established Sovereign Garace Minstries. I loved Larry and CJ when they were touring Britain in the 80s.

But things had gone a bit sour and I learned that Julie Anne and Lydia Joy were both in SGM as youngsters. Many people chatted. Sheila Atchley who is a pastor's wife in the States and is a friend on Facebook was also one of these who commented on what Dan was sharing.

We shared so much in the comments section of Dan's blog. He told us about Rob Rufus minstry in Hong Kong and we read and listened to many of the mp3s on grace. If you want to dig around in some of what we were talking about, it is still all there in Dan's blog.

It was around 2008-9 that Christian men began meeting each other big time on Facebook.A sister in Kenya said I ought to go on Facebook, some years earlier, but at that point men weren't really doing Facebook in the same way as it has now developed.

So just prior to Facebook, Julie -Anne and Lydia Joy encouraged me to start my own blog in the following summer of 2008.  The 8 Bubble LOGO to highlight the day I began and which in Hebrew numerics actually means  the THIRD GATE or ENTRANCE or PORTAL was devised by Lydia Joy for her own blog to celebrate that date.

In Christ , lives touch for a while and pollinate and when it is genuine something of lasting significance continues to grow inside us.

For others it is not so meaningful perhaps....but for one who was unable to share anything anywhere for about 20 years from the time I was chucked out of the charismatic realm in 1988 until this opportunity opened on the net......wow.....it was so beautiful and timely....and probably necessary lest I explode!!!!   I had to share somewhere.

Divine Health could change your Life

My Facebook friend and one of the original catalysts for the existence of this very blog is Lydia Joy Shatney. She writes a blog called Divine Health , and here on her About Me page she writes:
For much of my adult life I have been very interested in health and nutrition. I sought many paths towards health and wellness, but none of them led me where I truly wanted to go. It was about 3 years ago that I discovered ‘Nourishing Traditions’ by Sally Fallon and that was the missing link for me.
It has only been in the past year that I have fully shifted my family over to real foods and away from processed foods completely. It has been a pleasure!!

After having completely eliminating processed foods in just a year’s time, I have seen a lot of transformation health wise for myself. I no longer suffer from intense menstrual pains and cramps each month, nor the pain of mittelschmerz each month during ovulation. I also no longer suffer from random severe body aches and pains all up and down the right side of my body. Sinus infections used to plague me regularly, and I used to have to blow my nose constantly and produced a lot of mucous, but not anymore. I used to get migraines and headaches constantly and popped ibuprofen like it was candy.
Now, I take ibuprofen once in a blue moon. I have seen my asthma symptoms decrease immensely, as well as seasonal colds and allergies. I have way more energy, lost 10 pounds and overall feel great. I am no longer a slave to my cravings. I find great freedom in that alone.

A goal of mine is to get my degree in holistic nutrition and wellness. Until that time, I plan to share my passion here and hope to benefit many others along the way. Here’s to a healthy life, from the inside out!! Peace!

Here are a random selection of some of Lydia's recipes:

Nourishing Sweet Potato Casserole
By lydia, on November 23rd, 2010
I personally did not grow up with the typical sweet potato casserole topped with marshmallows being served on Thanksgiving. Typically, we would simply have, essentially, mashed sweet potatoes with butter. When I grew up and went out on my own I learned about the very popular sweet potato casserole that seemed to grace most every Thanksgiving table.
I honestly could not understand why on earth people would want a casserole topped with marshmallows. Nasty! My personal preference these days is for a more nourishing version of sweet potato casserole that hightlight’s the already delectable sweetness of the tuber along with some good fats from cultured butter and pastured eggs. If you are looking for a more nourishing and healthy version of this ever famous holiday side dish, check out my recipe. (I promise you won’t even miss the marshmallows!)

Sweet Potato Casserole
Serves 6
2 1/2 pounds organic sweet potatoes, or yams, peeled and cubed
2 pastured eggs, lightly beaten
4 tablespoons cultured butter, melted plus more for the baking dish
2 tablespoons honey or maple syrup, optional
Sea salt
1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ginger
Pinch of freshly grated nutmeg
Fresh ground black pepper
1/2 cup crispy pecans, coarsely chopped (recipe follows)

Directions:

1. Preheat oven to 350.
2. Boil potatoes in a pot of water until fork tender. Drain and mash into a large bowl.
3. Add the eggs, butter, honey or maple syrup, sea salt, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg and pepper. Stir this mixture until well blended and smooth.
4. Butter and 8×8 inch baking dish. Pour the sweet potato mixture into the pan and sprinkle the top with pecans. Bake for 30-40 minutes until a bit puffy. Serve.

Crispy Pecans
4 cups pecan halves
2 teaspoons sea salt
filtered water

Mix pecans with salt and filtered water in a bowl and leave in a warm place for at least 7 hours, or overnight. Drain in a colander. Spread pecans on a stainless steel baking pan and place in a warm oven (no more than 150 degrees fahrenheit) for 12 to 24 hours, until completely dry and crispy. Store in an airtight container.

Singing the praises of ACV………By lydia, on May 20th, 2010
About a month ago, I decided to try out an experiment with apple cider vinegar. I had read that an application of it on a wart or mole, in time, would remove said blemish. I figured, what would it hurt? I happen to have moles like crazy and never really much cared for them, and some of them have grown in size over the years. Ick! So, I started with two on my face. Word to the wise, start on a part of your body that is covered. My moles did go away after about 2 weeks of on and off application, but the apple cider vinegar worked so good, it drew out all kinds of impurities and gave me black heads surrounding one of the moles and that took awhile to go away. Along with some redness, that did go away but didn’t look super pretty for several days. It was like the vinegar had an acid peel affect on the areas that were under the bandaids. I am quite happy that this worked though and have moved on to a few other moles to work on removing them as well. I have read quite extensively that this is a great way to get rid of warts too. It can be painful from what I understand, depending on how deep the wart is.

Another reason I super love ACV, is for how it helps my digestion. I have taken it on and off for awhile now, trying to remember to take a teaspoon or two in water before meals. Especially meals I usually have trouble digesting, like beef for example. I can eat beef, but if I eat it twice or more in a row, I experience tummy trouble. But when I take the vinegar, I don’t have trouble. It’s wonderful!
Apparently, Hippocrates (the father of medicine) found and treated his patients with ACV way back in 400 B.C. He discovered that natural, undistilled ACV is a powerful cleansing and healing elixir, ‘a naturally occuring antibiotic and antiseptic that fights germs and bacteria’ for a healthier, stronger, longer life. The versatility of ACV as a powerful body cleansing agent is legendary. It’s been traced to Egyptian urns as far back as 3000 B.C. The Babylonians used it as a condiment and preservative, while Julius Caesar’s army used ACV tonic to stay healthy and fight off disease. The Greeks and Romans kept vinegar vessels for healing and flavoring. It was used in Biblical times as an antiseptic and a healing agent. In Paris during the Middle Ages, it was sold from barrels by street vendors as a body deodorant, healing tonic and a health vinegar drink.

Even Christopher Columbus and his crew on his voyage to discover America in 1492 had their vinegar barrels for prevention of scurvy as did the soldiers in the American Civil War. For centuries in Japan, the feared Samurai warriors drank it for strength and power. ACV has been used for thousands of years not only for health reasons, but also as a cleansing agent to remove bacteria, germs, odors, and even stains and spots.
From what I understand, taking apple cider vinegar regularly can also help with weight loss, as well as body stiffness. Not to mention it is great as a hair rinse, and a facial astringent too. Here is just one of the many sites you can read up on apple cider vinegar. I personally buy Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which you can purchase here if you like. Braggs also has a great book, touting the amazing benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar. There are many more ways that this wonderful liquid gold can benefit you – try one of them today!!


Brick Chicken & Heirloom Tomato Salad with Basil Vinaigrette

By lydia, on August 24th, 2010
Years ago, I’m talking like a decade ago, I watched Bobby Flay do a show on butterflied and grilled chicken pressed down with a brick covered in foil. I had to try it! It was so wonderfully delicious. Years and years past and for whatever reason (moving, not having a grill, having babies, who knows?), I forgot about this delectable way to prepare chicken on the grill. Until this summer, when all my inspiration and drive to cook fun and fabulous food came back.


There are a million and one ways that you could marinate or season the chicken. Here’s what I did;

1 – 3 to 3 1/2 pound whole pastured chicken, backbone cut out and butterflied

A handful of fresh herbs such as basil, parsley, oregano or rosemary

Zest of one organic lemon

3 large garlic cloves, minced

1 Tablespoon coarse celtic sea salt

good quality olive oil

Equipment:

kitchen shears or poultry shears

gallon sized plastic bag or large bowl

blender or food processor

gas or charcoal grill

microplane zester

good knife and a cutting board

Directions:

Cut the backbone out, then place the chicken cut side down on a cutting board and press down to flatten.

In a blender, place the herbs, garlic, zest and salt. Turn the blender (or food processor) on and slowly drizzle in 1/3 cup of olive oil until well blended to make a thick paste. Add more oil if desired.

Place the chicken in a container or a ziploc bag and pour the marinade over it, making sure to coat the whole bird. Place in the fridge to marinate up to 24 hours.

When ready to cook the chicken, get a hot fire going in your grill, keeping one half of the grill hot and the other half cold. If using a charcoal grill, build your fire only in half of the grill. This won’t work well if you only have a teeny tiny charcoal grill.

Place the chicken, breast side down, over the hot side of the fire and place a brick covered in aluminum foil on top (I actually used my cast iron skillet for this as I didn’t not have a brick or aluminum foil – I suspect it’s a healthier option). Grill for 2-3 minutes just to crisp the skin and flip and repeat on the other side. After the initial browning,
move the chicken to the other side of the grill, the ‘cold’ side, and grill further for 25 minutes or so until a knife inserted into the thigh produces clear running juices.

Return the chicken to the hot side to crisp up the skin again placing the brick or skillet on top. Again 2 minutes per side. Remove the chicken and let rest for 10 minutes before carving.

Time Involved:

Active – 15 minutes

Inactive time – up to 24 hours marinating, 25-30 minutes grilling

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Alongside this fabulously grilled chicken I served an Heirloom Tomato Salad with Basil Vinaigrette, which can be quickly whipped up while the chicken is happily grilling away. Here’s how you do it;

1 1/2 pounds heirloom tomatoes, sliced

In a bowl toss with as much basil vinaigrette as you like.

For the basil vinaigrette;

1 cup of basil, coarsely chopped

1 garlic clove, minced

1/4 cup good quality olive oil

2 tablespoons of brine from one of your ferments, or kombucha (lemon juice or apple cider vinegar work as well)

salt and pepper to taste

Pulse garlic and basil in a food processor. Slowly drizzle in the brine and the oil until emulsified. This entire meal really only takes a little more than 30 minutes to pull together, and really is super simple!

Time:

5 minutes

Hot Artichoke and Goat Cheese Dip
By lydia, on December 16th, 2010
I have been making this particular version of artichoke dip for at least a decade, and I never tire of serving it around the holidays. In fact, the only time I even think of making it is around Christmas. This hot artichoke and goat cheese dip makes a fabulous appetizer for all the many holiday gatherings we find ourselves attending. One thing that I have adjusted about this awesome appetizer, is that I no longer serve it with crispy pita chips or any type of bread, keeping in line with my need to be gluten free and avoid the starchy carbs. I find it equally as good, if not better, with blanched crudites. Truly this dip is a real crowd pleaser!


Hot Artichoke & Goat Cheese Dip
Makes 3 1/2 cups dip
10 ounces frozen artichoke hearts
1 1/2 cups chopped leeks or onions
1 garlic clove, minced
1/2 cup homemade mayonnaise, or cultured sour cream
8 ounces cultured cream cheese, softened (preferably homemade)
2/3 cup grated Parmesan cheese
6 ounces soft goat cheese

Blanched crudites, cauliflower, broccoli and asparagus to serve.

1. In a food processor, combine the artichoke hearts, onions, garlic, mayo or sour cream, cream cheese, parmesan cheese and goat cheese. Blend ingredients, leaving some texture in the dip. Spoon the dip into an 8 inch casserole dish. (at this point you can refrigerate the dip, covered for up to 2 days.)

2. Preheat the oven to 350.

3. Bake the dip, uncovered, for 30 minutes or until it is browned on top. Serve with the crudites.

*Additions – to make this dip even more filling, try adding some crab meat and/or even some spinach. Delish





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