Showing posts with label righteous judgment. Show all posts
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Friday, 11 August 2017

Mark Sullivan on Judgment

Mark Sullivan
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Wow, CA(not me , some other) you are so judgmental...
As sooo many are not content with the Good News unless it includes Judgement,
I will judge still more:
Daily judgment:
I hereby judge sin's claim that you incurred a debt of unpaid wages as true and valid.
"for all have sinned
and fall short of the glory of God,"
-- Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death"
-- Romans 6:24a
I further judge you as
justified from guilt of sin,
and reconciled to God
through the ransom
Jesus Christ paid sin
by dying at the Cross,
paying sin its wage,
ransoming you from
every claim of sin had
against you.
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." --Romans 3:23-24
"the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
-- Matthew 20:28, Mark 10:45
"... God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people's sins against them.
And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation."
-- 2 Corinthians 5:19
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Patty Sabine
Patty Sabine Amen
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Billi Kraft Yes
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Chris Welch
Chris Welch It is my belief that the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin righteousness and judgment.... in a manner of shaking that which can be shaken..... yet once more will I shake the heavens and the earth.....
And the Rock remains .
I think as you have stated here judgment is a complete package judging error and reinstalling righteousness. Perhaps we are too used to human courts which are "Dumbasses".... not proactive at all.... just about a slammer/ jail.
God as the righteous Judge is about a solution... namely His own indestructible life as it says in Hebrews
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Mark Sullivan
Mark Sullivan Right on!!!

Friday, 3 January 2014

TEF11 - Overcome . A post By Daniel Yordy

Through Eyes of Fire series
To overcome is to set creation free; it is to subdue all things. Setting creation free comes only out from the tree of life, only out from the throne of God. Being born of God comes first; believing that Christ is our only life comes first. Faith is the only come-over to the tree of Life.



© Daniel Yordy 2013 : 11.Overcome
The original post can be found here with alternative audio forms and PDF download
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

Hebrew is very different from English. Translators must fill in between the blanks all the time. Ancient Hebrew has words that have no English counterparts, while at the same time, it leaves out essential words to the flow of thought that English requires.

The Hebrew in verse 28 gives three specific commands: 1. Fill the earth. 2. Subdue (IT) 3. Rule over the animal kingdoms. The verb “fill” has an object – the earth. The verb “rule” has an object – the animals. But the verb “subdue” does not. Thus the translators inserted the word “it,” causing us to think that God said: “Subdue the earth.” And thus I have said it all through my writing until now.

God did not say, “Subdue the earth.” He said, “Subdue.” It's not that the earth is removed from that subjugation; it's that “subdue” is without limitation. Thus the writer of Hebrews said, “All things are made subject to man.” And Paul said that only the Father is outside of that scope.

The command “subdue” is the Hebrew word, kabash: to subdue, bring into bondage. Here is a larger definition. “Verb subdue, bring into bondage (Late Hebrew, press, oppress; Aramaic, tread down, beat or make a path, subdue; Arabic press, squeeze, knead (body or limb, as in the bath, massage), also attack, assault).”

Here are the English words or phrases kabash is translated into through the Old Testament. assault (1), brought them into subjection (2), forced into bondage (1), forcing (1), subdue (1), subdued (5), subjugate (1), trample (1), tread under foot (1), under foot (1). http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/3533.htm

Let's bring in three references to get a larger picture.

Now the whole congregation of the children of Israel assembled together at Shiloh, and set up the tabernacle of meeting there. And the land was subdued before them. Joshua 18:1

There were also those who said, “We have borrowed money for the king’s tax on our lands and vineyards. Yet. . . indeed we are forcing our sons and our daughters to be slaves, and some of our daughters have been brought into slavery. It is not in our power to redeem them. . .” Nehemiah 5:4-5

Who is a God like You, pardoning iniquity and passing over the transgression of the remnant of His heritage? He does not retain His anger forever, because He delights in mercy. He will again have compassion on us, and will subdue our iniquities. You will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:18-19

The best picture of the concept of “subdue” is found in Joshua 10:24-25.

So it was, when they brought out those kings to Joshua, that Joshua called for all the men of Israel, and said to the captains of the men of war who went with him, “Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings.” And they drew near and put their feet on their necks. Then Joshua said to them, “Do not be afraid, nor be dismayed; be strong and of good courage, for thus the Lord will do to all your enemies against whom you fight.”

The word, “subdue” or “overcome” is the action verb of God's great story. Here is the strongest verse in the Bible on subjugation, Philippians 3:20-21: For our citizenship is (of) heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working (energia) by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.

Then Hebrews 2:6-9: “What is man that You are mindful of him. . . You have. . . set him over the works of Your hands. You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. But we see Jesus. . .

Jesus is Man, that is, God revealed. All things being subjected to Him means all things under our feet.

But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. Hebrews 10:12-14

“Till His enemies are made His footstool” is from Psalm 110, the Psalm of the victorious Messiah. This line is the most quoted Old Testament verse in the New Testament.

There is a problem in the thinking of many who say, “Union with Christ.” That problem is limitation. It is simply beyond us to grapple with the reality that union is union. The moment one says that word, “Union with Christ,” it is absolute and complete, there can be no limitation. If I am in Him, show me where He continues and I do not. If He is in me, show me what part of Him is not. If I am filled with all the fullness of God, what part of God is absent from me? If God flows out from me in rivers of living water, what part of those rivers do not come out through me?

 The churches in Revelation:Every truth in each letter to each church is true of every local church and every world-wide generation of the church from Pentecost to today.

And thus many think (and I understand why, God's claims are just too much), “I rest inside of God. God does mighty things while I rest inside of Him.”

That is not union. If God rests, I rest in Him; if God does, I do with Him. I can do nothing apart from Him; God does nothing except through me (that is, through His body).

If Jesus subdues all things to Himself, I subdue all things to myself, for He and I are one. It is He in me doing it; it is I in Him doing it. All things that He does, I do, for I do not seek my own, but the will of the One who sent me. Union cannot be anything less than union. Oneness cannot be anything less than oneness, I in Him and He in me.

This is the chair upon which we have seated ourselves. Yes, we have no business here, but here we sit. We have nothing to lose; we have nothing to gain. All we have is the Desire of God filling our hearts.

We speak Christ our only life. If it's true of Jesus, that's all I am, that's all I do, that's all I could possibly be.

I am not alone; God fills me full; the Word is in my mouth.

In my last letter, “Christ, God's Story,” I used the seven churches in Revelation 2 and  3 as a template describing the history of the church over the last 2000 years. That is an idea I obtained from elsewhere, and, being an amateur student and teacher of history, I fitted the template by my own understanding. To my surprise, it worked. In fact, the more my understanding of things increases, the more that template fits.

However, in itself, using the seven churches to describe church history is just an intellectual exercise with little value. What it does give us is a framework through which to see the great story of God unfold from Pentecost until now. By that means using these chapters in this way is useful to us. However, this is only one use the Holy Spirit makes of these seven churches, and thus such an “interpretation” cannot be written in stone. Every truth in each letter to each church is true of every local church and every world-wide generation of the church from Pentecost to today. Christ is Christ in all who belong to Him.

Let's stop here. – I attempted to continue in the “Bible Study” mode, bringing in the seven verses of overcoming from Revelation 2 and 3 and highlighting various symbols. Then I realized I was not catching the reality of Christ we must have right now. I thought to start over, but decided to keep these first two pages as a foundation. Having laid that foundation, let's see where Christ our life will take us. For me truth does not show Himself by plowing straight on through cold logic, but rather by lateral leaps in unexpected directions.

I have just recast this series on John's vision as “Through Eyes of Fire.” That will be the title of the book.

There is so much in that metaphor that I sense in my spirit, but that I do not yet see. I want to see.

Subjugate all things – Stand fast in liberty – Labor to enter His Rest – Overcome the Beast.

God brings all things under submission by setting everything free. God sets everything free by bringing it all under submission. God labors to enter rest; great works come out of God's rest. The Guy is confusing.

Overcome is outward, not inward. We do not subjugate “the flesh.” To subjugate the flesh is to get Christ solidly under our feet; that's upside down. There is no battle inside, no civil war. God lives in us in utter peace.

One of two things happens if we imagine that we must bring ourselves under subjection to God. Far better is it that we collapse in failure and ruin. But not all do, some succeed by outward appearance to make “themselves” subject to “Christ.” That is not what happens inwardly, however. What actually happens is that they bring an “image of Christ” held in their own minds fully under the control of self. And now this dedicated Christian is at war with God, with no reason whatever to be so.

The flesh belongs to God; it is the eternal dwelling place of the Father. It is the one thing we have no right to subjugate. The only entrance into Life is for us to allow Jesus to BE our flesh, flesh of His flesh.

Overcome is outward. Overcome is the action coming out of our seamless union with Christ.

To overcome is to set all creation free.

Subjugation with God is to bring all things into the Mercy Seat, into the Lamb-Slain where all offense is caused to cease and where the object of love is released into honor and joy. This is the operation of God's throne; it is how Jesus subdues all things to Himself, by mighty energy.

Overcoming does not “get us to” the throne; overcoming, subjugating all things, is what comes out from the throne.

Only those who seat themselves upon that throne, by daring boldness, by audacious presumption, by having nothing to lose, counting the Blood, the Cross, the Resurrection of Christ to be absolute, to be larger than all things, to be complete, it is only those who then bring all things under subjection.

To overcome is to bring all things under the power and into the freedom of Love.

To overcome is to be the tip-point of the Pillar of Fire as it carries all things into Life and Love.

Okay. I've said all these words because they are what God has taught me to say over the last couple of years. But suddenly, my seeing changes. I see what I am saying; I see through eyes of fire.

The flesh belongs to God; it is the eternal dwelling place of the Father. It is the one thing we have no right to subjugate. The only entrance into Life is for us to allow Jesus to BE our flesh, flesh of His flesh.

We have carried a completely backwards definition of “to overcome.” Indeed, I have addressed our wrong seeing over and over, yet continued to think partly in that backwards way. The problem is not ours, though, but how God words things.

To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life. . .

You do this first, then, after that, you will get life. But without life, how do we do the things of life? Without life, how can we even know what life is?

It is the veil, placed there by God to keep out those who do not belong, those whose hearts are not given wholly to Him. But we? We have already proven ourselves incapable failures in the things of God. We have nothing to lose. We just plant ourselves in that throne, in that Life, in the Christ of God. Then, sitting there, we discover that we are completely turned around; we are now looking out from God, through eyes of fire, at all things.

To overcome begins by eliminating every thought of “going into God” from our minds. To be “going into God” is, by definition, to be outside of God. Outside of God has a name; it's called rebellion. There is only one possible way, however, by which we can BE inside of God utterly and only – by faith. Those who insist on continuing on “into God” live in unbelief and can never know Him.

You know, really, almost all firmly believe that Life must be earned. They believe that to sit upon the throne of heaven by faith is illegitimate, that we cannot “make such claims” because we have not yet “earned” life.

Not sitting upon the throne by faith has a name: rebellion. The only thing being earned is death.

In complete contrast, in all things, in every circumstance, at every moment, God in us and we in God are going out together, always seated upon the throne, always moving out from that throne as rivers of living water setting all things free, which is, by definition, bringing all things under subjection.

Never see yourself “going into” God. Always see yourself utterly IN God, looking out through eyes of fire and going forth as God Himself into all the circumstances of your life.

This reality is NOT real by how we feel or by outward sight. It is real by faith.

The Word is in our mouth.

Let's look at the whole verse.

But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach – speak): that if you confess (speak) with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:8-10

This is one of the “gospel road” verses. One of the key verses in the gospel tracts and known by all believers. Yet we had no idea what we were saying.

Now, seated here upon this throne of heaven, looking out through these eyes of fire, I hear the words, “The Word is in your mouth, the Word is in your mouth, the Word is in your mouth,” going through me over and over.

Paul said the “Logos of faith”; he said, “The faith OF the Son of God.” John said this about that Logos: “In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God.”

God is in my mouth. God is in my mouth.

I want to look again at a line I addressed in “Union with God FIRST,” the first letter of this series.

– We must be willing to get rid of the life we’ve planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come. –

This is the mind in which we once lived; it is 180 degrees backwards. Here is the truth.

– As we joy in all Life received now, our old ideas just vanish as meaningless. As the new shows itself real by faith, the “old skin” simply disappears from all thought. –

Death does not produce life; life swallows up death.

Life comes first.

I want to do two things here. First, I want to put before our eyes the verses of overcoming in Revelation 2 and 3. I find no unction to deliberate over any specific meanings. If and when I do find particular things from these verses flowing into the present word of Christ, I will, but not until then.

Second, I want to bring all this thinking back into the seeing of the final chapters of my book, The Covenant.

Here are the overcomes. I have put them in this form as a means for us to see the picture God has placed before our eyes. I don't know what all this means; we simply hold it as Christ in our hearts.

These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands. . . “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”

These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life. . . “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.”

These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword. . . “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.”

These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass. . . And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations— ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; they shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’ as I also have received from My Father; and I will give him the morning star. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars. . . He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”. . . He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God. . . To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God. . . To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

Could these things be written backwards? Would this be a better way to say what God means?

He who eats of the tree of life will overcome.

He who has My name written upon him will overcome.

He who sits in My throne will overcome.

You see, it seems to us that Jesus said, “Look, if you defeat sin and death the way I did, then I will put you where I am now.” Yeah right. I once sat under a man who has preached it this way now for over forty years under a mighty anointing with great convincing argument. The ONLY hope there is for him is to face the truth, “I have failed.” And having failed to just be where his heart wants to be. Where that is, I don't know, but it's the only thing real.

The first step of overcoming is found in these words, “I have failed; I know I can never 'overcome.'” The second step is: “Christ, You are my only life.” – God is in our mouth.

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 1 John 5:4-5

Do you see why I say that the only way we could possibly understand John's vision is to see it entirely through 1 John? To overcome is to set creation free; it is to subdue all things. Setting creation free comes only out from the tree of life, only out from the throne of God.

Being born of God comes first; believing that Christ is our only life comes first. Faith is the only come-over to the tree of Life.

Now, God is very practical. One wonderful thing that Pastor Joel Osteen continues to do for me is to remind me to think the expectation of God instead of that old familiar fallback, thinking curse. Another is that God reigns in goodness in all the little things of life.

Speak Christ concerning all things, especially the little things of everyday life.

Now, in the final chapters of The Covenant, there is a progression of seven key chapters: The Ark of the Covenant, Carry Your Cross, Resurrection Life, A Heart Throne, The Mercy Seat, Until My Enemies, and The Pillar of Fire. In the center of that progression is the throne of heaven in Revelation 4 and 5, a heart throne, the Lamb-Slain.

Our heart is the throne of heaven, the Mercy Seat, the throne of God.

Out from our heart proceeds all authority. Yet that great authority IS a gentle touch, a tender word, a cup of cold water. It swallows up into itself all the little things of life, all the ordinary circumstances. At least, that is what is visible outwardly. But in the heavens, what a different scene is taking place!

As we bring all the ordinary things, the little things of life into the Mercy Seat of God, the universe is forever changed. Life swallows up all death.

You see, those who are forever “going into” God, are forever seeing backwards. Let's turn around, seated comfortably here where we have no earthly “right” to be. Let's look out through eyes of fire.

And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Revelation 4:5

From the throne proceeded. . . voices. – The Word is in your mouth.

We see through those seven lamps of fire, each one of the seven Spirits of God. And each one of those seven Spirits of God attends one each of the seven overcomes. You see, having turned around, now we proceed as heaven proceeds, not as earth sees in its blindness. We see out from that throne, our hearts, through the Spirits of fire to all overcoming, to all bringing of all things into the Mercy Seat, into the Lamb-Slain.

Let's bring in the seeing of Isaiah – 11:1-5

There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots. The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. His delight is in the fear of the Lord, and He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes, nor decide by the hearing of His ears; but with righteousness He shall judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked. Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins, and faithfulness the belt of His waist.

God is in your mouth.

First, lets not turn these seven Spirits of God into word studies and principles. Let's allow them to remain Fire and Life. And second, before we attract any psychopaths, Jesus does not “slay the wicked” by killing people. He slays the wicked by bringing them into Himself and carrying them through death all the way into life. There is only one death for us and that death is entirely WAS dead – the Lamb Slain, and now alive forevermore. Christ causes wickedness to cease by the word of His mouth, the breath coming out of His lips. That's our mouth, that's our lips.

The Word is in your mouth.

Do we love people? Of course we do; Love fills our hearts to overflowing. God says He does, and He always tells the truth. Let me become specific. I write for clarity, not to be offensive, but to shine the light upon our own hearts.

Once in awhile I shop at our local Walmart. Our Walmart is centered amongst poor people. It is filled to overflowing with Hispanics, Blacks, and local white “trash.” Most of them are overweight, plus. They fill their carts with white flour, white sugar, and genetically engineered corn, all laced with innumerable man-made chemicals. I am always astonished that there is enough life left in their bodies to push their carts of death out to their cars. I suspect that the productivity coming out of these people is fairly low. Yet, astonishingly, they are among the richest people on earth and in all human history.

Before we attract any psychopaths, Jesus does not “slay the wicked” by killing people. He slays the wicked by bringing them into Himself and carrying them through death all the way into life. There is only one death for us and that death is entirely WAS dead – the Lamb Slain, and now alive forevermore. Christ causes wickedness to cease by the word of His mouth, the breath coming out of His lips. That's our mouth, that's our lips.

Now, there is a mind-set in this world, particularly among the elite and powerful, that would call all this overflow of stuffed, “low-socio-economic,” “minority, that is colored” people “useless eaters.” More than that, these people are hooked to their television sets, to government handouts, to modern education - “think only what we tell you to think.” Many would call them “zombies,” “sheeple,” etc. etc.

The planet is filled with billions just like them. Billions who will never pursue life, never overcome, never rise above their fleshy dump.

Yet I walk through the store marveling in my heart. This fattest, dumpiest one, cart and mind filled to overflowing with junk, though shadowed by sorrow and darkness, is still the image of the Almighty, utterly loved with tender regard by the God who fills our hearts full and of more value than all the wealth of the universe.

God loves each one; we love each one. We lay down our lives; we speak Christ, and the Word coming out of our mouths causes iniquity to cease and causes the object of our love to walk free, carried inside our hearts all the way into Life.

This is the throne of heaven; this is how we “overcome” all things.

Reading through “Until My Enemies,” Chapter 16/18 of The Covenant, just now, I see that I am attempting to re-iterate what I said much more clearly there. You may want to read through those seven chapters again yourself. We are simply using another model to see the same revelation of Jesus Christ revealed now through us.

And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. – “Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals” . . .in the midst of the throne. . . stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. Revelation 5:1 & 5-7

That's pretty cool. We don't look through two eyes of fire, but seven.

What is this scroll? I have heard a number of explanations, some anointed and some intellectual.

The short answer? I don't know. The longer answer – we can place this scroll where it is.

We do not read this vision of John as either a chronological or a logical progression from Chapter 1 to Chapter 22. Rather, it is a series of layers, of springs flowing forward and back, of differing approaches to the same truths. In fact, John's vision is much like how I like to tackle knowing Christ our life, and that is to come at it from all kinds of different directions, jumping from one view to the next without trying to be “logical.” That's my approach even to the teaching of writing. I find it far more effective and real than the “textbook” approach.

I now see Chapters 1 through 9 as a unit, with the two Throne Chapters as its center. All things proceed from that throne. Thus “to overcome” goes in both directions. First, it proceeds through the seven overcomes to the revelation of Jesus Christ upon the earth in His body, that includes you and me, coming through weakness in many and seen by all. That is by calling those things that be not as though they are. At the same time, it proceeds into all the aspects of the original curse, that is, calling those things that are as though they are not. OVERCOME (the Mercy Seat that fills our hearts) flows from the throne in both directions at the same time.

Thus, lets put the first verses on each side of the Throne side by side.

And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out overcoming and to overcome. – To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Two nikes on one side and two nikes on the other.

Now, the majority want to call the guy on the white horse “The Antichrist.” There are a couple of problems with that, however. First, there is no such thing as “The Antichrist,” and second, it is Christ alone, the Lamb-Slain, who “slays the wicked” with the breath of His lips.

Five of the opened seals correspond directly to elements of the curse. Seal 2: “In pain you shall bring forth children” – brother killing brother. Seal 3: scarcity – “cursed is the ground.” Seal 4: death, with Hades as the wounded of death. Seal 5: “and you shall bruise His heel.” – the unfulfilled martyrs, waiting. Seal 6: the removal of the skin of the beast, the turning on of the lights – nowhere, now, to hide.

If the wicked powers of heaven and the wicked powers of earth, operating out from the curse and ruling by the lie, are causing endless sorrow and death, robbery and murder, debauchery and perversion all across this earth, wouldn't breaking the lie and the curse that gives power to the evil be the thing to do?

Two are left out of this particular picture: judgment upon the dragon (you shall eat dust, that is, human flesh) and judgment upon the beast (your husband will rule over you).

Now, this brings us back to a statement I made in “Authority Revealed.” The end of the age is in our hands, the hands of the sons of God.

A big part of “overcome” is the necessary judgment of God on that which must be judged. Judgment must come upon the wicked rulers of the heavens and upon the wicked rulers of the earth, upon the dragon and upon the beast. Creation cannot be set free any other way.

If a wicked man is beating your child, you do not just keep placing lotion on your child's wounds between the blows. First, you put a stop to the wicked man! Then, the healing means something.

Yes, Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. But death still took Lazarus out.

You know, there are actually people who don't want “Jesus to come” quite yet, because there are ever so many more people that “must be saved” first. (I read this just a few weeks ago from a prominent “grace” teacher.)

Do you see how satanic “Christian” thinking really is.

If the wicked powers of heaven and the wicked powers of earth, operating out from the curse and ruling by the lie, are causing endless sorrow and death, robbery and murder, debauchery and perversion all across this earth, wouldn't breaking the lie and the curse that gives power to the evil be the thing to do?

And how is it that Salvation Revealed is not good for all these people that “need to get saved”?

I can no longer comprehend “Christian” thinking; it is so absurd. Grace is not where someone goes after death has defeated them.

Grace is God present in us NOW in all fullness and flowing out through us NOW into all creation. Grace is Man, that is, God manifest in the flesh, that is, God revealed.

So, let's bring this to the main point of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. That point is the defeat of the lie and the overthrow of the curse. Thus, most of John's vision is focused on those two triumphs as God reveals them now through us.

The lie said that Christ is not our life; the curse said that we have a life not His.

The lie said that Christ is not our life; the curse said that we have a life not His.

What is the real meaning of our sitting down in a chair where we have no business being?

It simply means that we do not know the lie, that we do not regard the curse.

Christ is our life; we have no other life.

Christ is the only Story we speak; Christ is in our mouth.

How do we overcome? The prophetic Word of Christ which we speak, carried by the Lamb.



Thursday, 19 April 2012

Judgment by Bonnie Morris



   In an earlier article: (A Fuller Meaning of the word Name) we discovered that the word NAME meant more than nature; it also means authority… To know someone well is to know their nature and their authority…  

   Let’s look at one of the words that falls into the category of God’s authority: JUDGE 

   The understanding of the word judge,  must be taken from the whole of scripture.  To just pull out a couple of scriptures and try to build a picture of the judgment the scriptures speak of, simply does not work.

   So, let’s begin with a sovereign judgment by God:
John 12:31-33 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.  This he said, signifying what death he should die.
   We see by this, that God judged the world when Jesus died.  Here was the result of this judgment: God declared ALL of us innocent and reconciled ALL of us unto Himself.  Herein is love…not that we loved God, but He loved us.  This was a one time judgment, wherein God included all of humanity.  We understand from this what is meant by the scripture that says…God is no respecter of persons. It has to do with salvation for everyone.  He is the savior of all - especially to those who believe.  This judgment was NOT condemning any person and was motivated by God’s love for the world.  It took care of Sin as a noun/ a thing.

   Because of this scripture, many believe that judgment of any kind ended on that day.  But, this is not what scripture bears out.  When the bible speaks on a certain subject at least 785 times, to think that one scripture will give you the whole picture is ridiculous.

  I declare: “There are times, when we, as Christians are to make judgment calls and times when we are not”.  I believe it is imperative for the sons of God to learn judgment.  WHY? 1st. Cor. 6:2a Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world?  Obadiah 21: Saviors shall come up on Mount Zion to judge the Mount of Esau.  There is the understanding of sin as a verb/action after the initial experience of salvation.  Just like there is a grace extended in salvation whereby works have nothing to do with it.  However, if you make Jesus the Lord of your life, the grace of God that is then extended to a believer is to empower believer to walk uprightly…For faith, without works is dead.  When He comes to live through us, grace is the ability to do the will of God.  He continues to forgive us when we sin, but hopefully that becomes less and less as we grow in our understanding of His nature.   

   I would never imply that we should always judge.  In fact, it’s possible someone is not mature enough to judge. However, I cannot go along with many who say that we are to never judge.  Scripture simply does NOT convey this.  John 7: 24 says: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.  

   Over the years, I have come to see the importance of, (at least) these 5 conditions before judging anyone.
  1. All  judgment  must   be  motivated  by  love.   In this scenario,  Someone may feel condemned, but it is not because of the one judging; it is because they do not believe.  Jesus said: “He that believeth not is condemned already…And this is the condemnation: that light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light”.  Yes, I only used a portion of this scripture because in context it is speaking about those who do not know the Son… but I desired to show you the principle that is at work when we, as believers, don’t believe what is written or spoken about judgment.  So, if someone comes to me with a judgment concerning something I am doing that is damaging me and I don’t believe them, I may very well feel condemned.  Without mercy, judgment will never produce the desired results (which is correction unto Life). Remember the words of Jesus in Matt. 7:2 “For with what judgment ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.“ If you are swift to judgment, you are NOT merciful. God has been merciful to us; likewise, we should exercise mercy towards others.  A Japanese proverb says to “search seven times before you judge”.  

  2.  Judgment must be according to the word of God!
The primary stipulation given for Christians regarding judging is that we are NOT to proclaim our own judgments (based on our own opinions) but to pronounce the judgments of God (based on truth).  Jesus serves as the best example on this matter.
Jesus speaking: 
John 5:30:  I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. This is NOT a judgment after the flesh which Jesus opposes as He states in John 8:15-16 that only judgments that come from God are true: “Ye judge after the flesh: I judge no man. And yet if (when) I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.  In context, Jesus is saying that he does not judge any man after the flesh.
   3.  An understanding/wise heart is necessary for judging.   
1st Kings 3:9 “Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad.  James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and UPBRAIDETH (insults or rebukes…for asking) NOT; and it shall be given him.   

   4.  A truly fair judgment is blind and deaf to any outer influence. Proverbs 24:23 “These things also belong to the wise.  It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment“.
For example…letting your children get away with something that you would judge as error in someone else’s child. 

   5.  Judge yourself first…1st Corinthians 11:30-31 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  We are to judge and improve ourselves as the people of God.  

  There are several words in the Greek language that all mean judge when translated into English.  I liken it to the Greek word Love… Love has 3 greek words that describe the different meanings of love and yet we always use just the word love.  It is still love, but concerning different aspects of it.  So when the KJ bible uses the word judge, it often is describing different aspects of the word, however it still means judge.

  The biggest problem with the word judge is believing it always carries with it condemnation.  One of the reasons for this is that our Webster’s dictionary never equates discernment with judging.  The majority of the time judging does not carry with it any condemnation.  God judged sin and condemned sin in the flesh.  Man is condemned by the natural penalties in government.  But, the word judge or form of the word judge is used at least 785 times in the bible and very few have any connection with condemnation.  It is sad that we have connected judging with condemnation as it has prevented growth. I think the reason we have is because often the person receiving the correction feels condemned…But judgment of God does not condemn them; they simply feel condemned because in their rebellion, they do not believe. 

   I have personally, been in Christian circles who teach it is always wrong to judge and sin runs rampant in those circles.  Unfortunately, I have also been in Christian circles that judge unrighteous judgment and in those places, the body of Christ could find no peace.  It is safe to say that judging has NOT been handled correctly by the body of Christ and has created horrible atrocities.  Too often, the baby has been thrown out with the bath water.  It is up to each one to learn proper judgment.  We are teaching balance today.
  
    To rightly divide when it is right to judge and when it is not:

1. Concerning your own life:

   1st Cor. 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  The Greek word for judge here is diakrino and it means judge, discern, make a distinction and is used as a verb.  Psalms 139: 23-24 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.  I like to pray that God would show me what I believe that is not true… it is a way of judging my understanding.

   1st Cor. 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man’s judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.  This word “judged” in the Greek is “anakrino” and is used as a verb: judge (in both a general and a legal sense): judged, judgeth, examined, asking question, searched.   

  On the surface, these two scriptures seem to contradict themselves concerning judging.  But, if you will read them in context, you will see that we should judge our own selves and we will find that we are not condemned with the world and that we have the grace to live uprightly.  When Paul said he wasn’t going to judge himself, he had reference to the thing that man was judging him for and this, in context seems to me to be concerning the end of his stewardship.  We cannot examine and pass sentence on the fulfillment or non-fulfillment of our own stewardship, or anybody else’s for that matter.  This judgment is the Lord’s.  He is the One appointed to determining the results of our lives.  1st Cor. 4:4 He that judgeth me is the Lord.  2nd Cor. 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.  This has reference to rewards.

   2.  Concerning those weak in the faith: 

   Romans Ch. 14 discusses meat and drink, esteeming days and unclean things.  Ch. 14 makes a point about those who are weaker in their faith; they cannot do some things that others have the liberty to do.  Do not judge anyone who MUST worship on a certain day, who CANNOT eat certain things without it violating their conscience, etc.  Happy is the man whose heart does not condemn him in that which he allows.  The Greek word for judge in Rom. 14 is krino and it means to decide, consider, as preferring one thing over another or determining the correctness of a matter.  By extension: to judge, pass judgment on, condemn in a legal sense: sue at the law.  Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days.  These are NOT subjects worthy of your time, so let’s not make judgments on these non moral issues.

  3. Concerning the religious:
   Romans Ch. 2 speaks to the religion in man and the hypocrisy of it.  If there is something you are doing and you judge another person as wrong for doing it, you are in error.  Rom. 2:1: Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another  thou condemns thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.  Although, at the time, Paul was addressing the Jews (who were very religious) and telling them that they were judging the Gentiles for the same thing they were doing, the principle still applies today that when we judge others we should make it a rule to examine ourselves on that very point.  

 4.  Concerning who has God’s authority to judge
   1 Cor. 5:15 He who is spiritual judgeth all things… The word judge in verse 15 has reference to examining or trying … in the amplified it reads: But the spiritual man tries all things… that is, he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things. Vines dictionary points out that this is a discerning judgment of all things to their true value.  This word judgeth in the Greek is also “anakrino”.  Vines goes on to point out that this man who judges all things is not judged by any man (speaking of mere man) for the merely natural mind can’t estimate the motives of the spiritual.  Paul said in 1st Cor. 7:25b that he had obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful and in context it is speaking of giving his judgment on something wherein there was no specific commandment.  It appears that obtaining mercy to be faithful is a qualification for judging.

If judging is not squarely based on God’s word (as it is the authority of the believer: scripture means authoritative writings) and love for our brethren or humanity, then It is best to keep thy mouth shut!  

  In conclusion let’s remember 2 scriptures: Psa. 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaks wisdom, and his tongue talks of judgment.   Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment…. Why?… v.10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.

Following is a question from Janelle to Gary Sigler.  It so echoes what I have written that I asked Gary to let me
 include it for your consideration also.

   Good morning Gary,

   I want to ask you what you see about judging and when it stops being discernment and truth to being opinionated and stubborn.  Can a person never say something about a matter that is damaging a person unless they are judging?  I have my own thoughts about this, but I would like to know what you feel.  Thanks


   Janelle,

   How many times have you heard someone whine - judge not lest ye be judged.  This verse of scripture from Matthew 7:1 is often quoted out of context by people who never want to hear any form of correction.

   There seems to be a lot of misperception about judging.  Some say we should never judge but then you hear them making judgments often.  We all make judgments every day and yet we know Jesus did say judge not that you be not judged.  Some who say we should never judge are quick to let you know when you are discerning something wrong that you shouldn’t judge.  If we are never to make a judgment about anything that happens this world would be a much darker place.  When Jesus taught that you should not judge he was not saying that you should lose your discernment or that you should never bring correction in a situation.  We all need and should desire judgment.  The scriptures are full of judgment.

   With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I see thee early; for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.  Isa: 26:99

   We should not judge except in a righteous way.  If you are judging someone and your emotions are involved and you are acting out of anger, you should stop immediately.  Our judgment should be from a heart of compassion and a desire to bring righteousness in the situation.  We can be harsh if need be, but with a heart to bring peace and restoration.

   As God’s ambassadors we have a responsibility to do as we feel is best for the community as a whole.  Usually the ones who cry “you should not judge” are the ones who cause disruption and then say we are judging them when we bring correction.  We should never judge someone and then think we are better than them or that we are not capable of doing the same thing.  Usually when you judge someone wrongfully is when you may later find yourself doing the same thing that you are judging another for.  That is why Jesus said not to judge.  He never said to throw out discernment or correct a bad situation.  When you truly have the heart of the Father you do not want to hurt anyone and you want to please each person but you realize that is impossible.  So, we do the best we can do according to what’s in our hearts.

   Hope this helps Janelle.