Showing posts with label ekklesia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ekklesia. Show all posts

Saturday, 30 November 2024

Dangerous Switcheroony

 


Romans 3 to 5 is a dangerous switcherooney. What you are doing in the Spirit is closely closely related to mid life crisis of the soul...... Or M Scott Peck's Different Drum , moving out of the confines of psychological stage two :socialisation into the next platform , which is the inner quest for the true you .

What happens if you take the hands off the wheel ? There can be a few crashes but another analogy could be the new technique of flying planes by mindpower alone , the reasoning ( no pun intended ) being that we can then power craft at the speed of thought . Christ becoming our real operator , has to be so real , initially He has to be allowed the necessary freedom to BECOME OUR LIFE . The Holy Spirit has to be allowed to create the inner aversions to not doing things or doing things . Otherwise as Colossians states we are forever stuck inside elemental spirits choices of do this or don't do this .

 So yes , it's a bit dangerous , because those inner things you have well hidden have to surface and be corrected by a work of grace on our Insides learning to walk this Christ as us stuff . One phrase Christ used was " become as a little child ". The King-dom The Reign of God is dynamic not inert like the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil . Imagine the sterility of a mule . That is the life of works . In respect of service to God ,that really helps to define why Cain's sacrifice was rejected , whereas Abel's sacrifice was accepted .

Abel's was a way of life , being led to shepherd and care for sheep , then being led to prepare and give his best sheep for slaughter . Everything about Abel was entering into how the Father felt about giving up His Only Beloved Son . Abel never sat down and worked this out . He reflexively did the next thing and the next thing ....then out of love for the Lord felt to give of His best sheep .

We took early steps as a Jesus Move relearning 1 Corinthians 12 worship .


Thirdlevel Christianity is crazy because it's believing upon this " next thing " way of living ....believing that Christ the King , is living in you as you . We took early steps as a Jesus Move relearning 1 Corinthians 12 worship . The Holy Spirit would give a song , a reading , a prophecy . Many of the Fisherfolk's songs and Dave Bilbrough 's songs came out of these situations and then became the stuff of songbooks sung across our nation . But neither of them sat down and intended that spin off . Then in the case of the Fisherfolk they moved out of the endless charismatic hamster wheel of ministry moving out from their hub at Yeldall Manor to a Scottish Island for a brief while . Shortly after , Graham Pulkingham's wife , Betty , who I am not sure was born again when they first moved out of middle class suburbs to down town inner city Houston , she writes " Celebrate the Whole of it " beginning to describe the whole of life aspects that become our Colossians 3.3 Romans 12 1-2 Galatians 2.20 experiences .

So you are taking the faith steps learned in charismatic land , for walkies outside the meeting room door . Fourth quartiles or eagle faces or curators of the eagle flight of spirit .....typically in music or winging it in prophecy .....then learn to live all of life in a quest for truth . So quicker than is normal for the other quartiles , they are made to BEGIN THEIR WALK IN HARD LINING TRUTH . Thank goodness all four quartiles don't do this simultaneously ....we'd fall apart as communities , unless we were all led simultaneously into the wilderness or " lockdown " , with manna and quail raining down . Living in the flesh .....and thankfully all of us do some things reflexively from our inner heart or good conscience as Paul writes ....or as complete outsiders like the Good Samaritan ..... But actual mechanical living from flesh pulls of sin , or purely outer compulsions of socially driven acts ....all of this is inert .

 It doesn't GO ANYWHERE . Living by faith clicks us into the God realm . This is where SUPPLY EXISTS . The second mile is where Kingdom is . It's using the faith we had to step out and " let God " in meetings , then becomes our faith ready to flex like new muscle in the whole of life . All Kingdom or Reign of Jesus stuff is NOT LIKE THAT STERILE MULE ....It's dynamic . It goes somewhere .

..... But actual mechanical living from flesh pulls of sin , or purely outer compulsions of socially driven acts ....all of this is inert .




The diligent shall rule . All Word leads to City on a Hill . To taking our Sovereignty where we plant the soles of our feet in Book of Joshua . It leads as Paul writes to becoming a local kingly authority as an ekklesia .

Corinthians was still a young church making the switcheroony when Paul wrote " Would that you were kings , then we ( apostles ) would reign with you ". The life we receive from Christ is a top down life , but while we are making the switch , it doesn't have that appearance AT ALL . Think King David being chased around a wilderness . We have to make the changeover from perching on the Rockefeller / Rothschild Tree ......Which is really a complete house of cards ,based on Trauma mind control that creates a dependence ..... Until we have risen internally to our situation and gained faith for all of life , and not just ' 1 Corinthians 12 through 14 meetings' . 

The life we receive from Christ is a top down life , but while we are making the switch , it doesn't have that appearance AT ALL

Are you grabbing this ?
Stage one ....obey that inner crisis for peace , for forgiveness , for inner emptiness ....come into your personal Passover that we all must do and still do .....come to Jesus hand over your life to One who has paid our price . Receive His actual new life into your Spirit . Get baptised in water and watch your own funeral in Jesus Christ .
Stage two Grab your own personal Pentecost . Get baptised in the Holy Spirit . Learn proper Christian meetings relying on the Holy Spirit together . 
Stage three Having some faith for gatherings , take that same faith for gatherings and like a child begin to learn real Kingdom ......acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will make straight your paths .

 The basic idea of true ekklesia is to have a core eldership who know enough of all three levels to be able to " carry " the Ark locally in your town or city . This is in the Spirit . Psalm 84 says these men ( women ) are perceived or revealed before God in Zion . They have what it takes in the Spirit . The word for all ministers is the same ....servants . The word for bishops is overseers . In Gate of Miphkad terms in the OT, elders were inspectors of animals for worship . In the Spirit bishops are people who carry gatherings ,keeping it on track like Jesus , who only did what He saw the Father doing . Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

Everything looks a shambles as thousands upon thousands are in the early stages of making the switcheroony , while the rest are still stuck in might is right pyramid structures under one learned rabbi , as is the way of the religious flesh order . It's not by might , nor by power , but by My Spirit says the Lord .
God never chose kings . 
God never chose Egypt and pyramids , 
He chose a people living from the heart . 
God builds in Tabernacles roof with holes structures .

Monday, 28 December 2020

How Acts 2 IS the HOLY of HOLIES on legs!!

 This morning's Facebook posts on what it is we are actually a part of.

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The way Facebook works as all you guys know is by participation in the form of a response . A like . The like then gives tacit acceptance to a flow of posts . Can I just say , that I am through with the solo ministry thing . This is a figment of everybody’s imagination . There is no such thing in the Kingdom . You get sent out in minimums of twos . Perhaps not in Christianity , but when you are preaching Kingdom you do . Can I also say I am through with Romans 3 to 5 ministry . Just to be clear there I mean the isolated form of ministry that it is , taken out of all context of the whole of the rest of Romans . Can I also say I am through with women leaping out of “ socialisation “ into an esotericism that involves Grand Masters and angels and lights and stones and crystals and kundilini and chakras and third eyes . What I am interested in is people who know how taking up the Cross works , how Genesis 3 is a lie , how we have died and it is no longer I that live , and this being so true that we have moved from death to life and are inside each other . We are like disciples helping each other with nets . As marvellous as Rodney Howard Browne, Benny Hinn are ... they aren’t actually part of that . As marvellous as all these ladies are finding life beyond the strictures of Law , and male pyramid societies , finding flow and Romans 3 to 5 life ........ and as a common theme loads of ladies club together ...... But are they together really ? The together of the Kingdom really really is the destruction of the “ lone - I “ from Genesis 3. It’s not just where we find each other as Grace covered people . There’s any number of churches of 15-35 year olds as was Rob Rufus church in Hong Kong all drinking of the grace message around 2008-12. But you notice it was still one leader doing all the ministering . If it’s genuine then I guess like Jesus after about 42 months there will be now 12 going off and doing the same . Except it isn’t is it ? Jesus wasn’t ministering out of a single shred of Genesis 3 consciousness . He was transmitting pure Kingdom . He had no “ lone - I “ consciousness so what He was imparting wasn’t miracles , wasn’t even the complete covering for sin . What He was ministering was uncovering any of this sham existence by being filled with grace and truth .At times gently , at times ferociously . And they trusted Him to do it because He had authority .And was ofcourse under authority . Real life and Real Kingdom are the same thing . One thing . And we join each other inside it . But it is absolute Light and not all of Jerusalem were up for it . So here we are and this is the “ king David’s new cart “ of automated fellowship where we “ like “ something . The truth of Light though is we are either drawn to it in one another or repelled by it . And similarly if there’s any Dark we are repelling one another if in that matter we are already in Light . A lot of this is unspoken . It’s inside attitudes behind the things we are writing about . Many times we can’t quite articulate it either . Or it’s like Paul writes “ if I am an eye and because you are a hand , I say I have no need of you .....” so there's some of that too . We are all at different stages and that’s not a problem ..... honestly not .... It’s when a solo person thinks that after being given a gift of healing in 1 Corinthians 12 that they are now John Doe ministries Or That because they have read as far as Romans 5 that being able to minister to 15-35 year olds is the same as Kingdom . Praise and worship 25 minutes . Preach on the covering of the Blood 30 minutes . Get a word of knowledge to heal somebody - a few minutes then everyone’s buzzing and send them home . OK . But none of that’s Kingdom . It’s somewhere in the first two weeks of the gospels except they at least ministered in twos , so it isn’t even that . It gets 15-35 year olds excited ..... for many weeks and months any way ..... Until a church split over real world , real living type stuff .  


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Dave Bilbrough, one of many on the podium of the London House church gatherings




Why do we go out in twos? So we can now have a tandem pair of Genesis 3 conscious people ministering out of their leftbrain of library facts ? No that would be like taking two mono loud speakers and saying “ hey listen to this . It’s stereo !” It isn’t though . It’s simply two mono speakers . It’s the same sound information reinforced through two mono speakers . THE REASON WE GO OUT IN TWOS AND MORE IS TO BEGIN DEMONSTRATING THE EPHESIANS 1.10 ADMINISTRATION . This is Kingdom . Gerald Coates , Maurice Smith , Dave Bilbrough, John MacLaughlin, David Mansell ( to start ) even the Galloping Gourmet !!! Yup Graham Kerr was there !!!! John Noble ofcourse . Instinctually they were doing Kingdom . But each one were still right inside the old Genesis 3 consciousness still , but with some anointing !!!! By by the lights of 1970s it was brilliant . And it was nascent Kingdom . We aren’t preaching” lone - I Genesis 3” power Christianity . We are not preaching mono loudspeaker Christianity . The whole “ sonic “ information of Kingdom is stereo from the very first sentence . It’s redeemed community . But ofcourse how redeemed we are shows up in LIGHT . If we are still a load of Alan Bennett mono “ Talking Heads “ ( his plays that are monologues ) Just putting us in a room will still be a load of mono speakers . To be baptised in the sea and under the cloud as a people , as a City compacted together , is something God has to work . If we work it , then it’s socialism . It’s redistribution of wealth . Which is just a con , because the elite share out our hard earned goods with a bunch of ne’er do Wells and cream off the top load for themselves .... or sell off all the hardware of a country .... its power its water its railways its health and all these get run as corporations and the expenses skyrocket . That’s why the actual production of any nation devolves mostly back into 70% of self employed and small businesses. Because pyramids don’t work . Endless tiers of middle managers benefit a few at the top but they are the most inefficient way of running anything . The Body . The Kingdom . Our own bodies . Do not resemble Eiffel Towers . Or pyramids . We are a whole . With no middle management . The Body is joined by that which each individual joint supplies . That’s the Ephesians 1.10 Kingdom . In Darkness you have to have pyramids . Darkness churches are run by one human down through tiers . Kingdom Churches are run by the Holy Spirit through living connection and many classes or types of gifting distributed throughout the Body . The one who has real authority is just doing a whole load more “ supplying and joining “.

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Fisherfolk, Yeldhall Manor, Reading
Fisherfolk Yeldhall Manor
Wherever they were at the London house church leaders ministered out of the rediscovery of baptism in the Spirit in a no religious setting and RELATIONSHIP . Wherever they were at Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk ministered baptism in the Spirit out of Graham’s deeper Anglican history but out of Community lived relationship . As we proved in Emsworth Community , the Body is itself an entity like our own bodies with its own homeostasis . There’s stuff coming up and in Christ we do have what it takes for things to be brought into complete deliverance . We weren’t very good at it . We didn’t have Norman Grubbs articulation . But it really was going on , had we continued with it . The alarming nature of “ The Hideous strength” that is serpent life quite put the leadership off , and some of the leadership got rid of the more mature leadership and called this all “ way too heavy and unnecessary “. So what happens ? Things which had been more fluid and Kingdom revert back to pyramid , and “ one leaders family “..... with only family members having a look in ... until they too get cheesed off. But no .... the gospel was clear . Take up your cross and follow Me Paul says Dont get bitter in the day of testing . That’s not the same as allowing a pyramid leader to do and say what they like . That’s just Marxism . But when your strongholds are being brought into the Light ..... be assured you won’t like it . It’s not a deckchair on the Mediterranean . It is the Song of Solomon north wind . It is the astringents in Esther’s beautification . Jacob said at Peniel “ Dont let me go until you have blessed me “. Bind the festal sacrifice to the altar . But boy this has to be right !!!! People who are Christ them will really be about pulling you through . The Spirit will be upon them for this purpose . They will be groaning with groans too deep for words and the Holy Spirit will be helping them in their weakness . And guess what ? Next week it will be their turn !!!! Nobody is exempt . We are going from glory to glory . Elders have just had more of this sequence . They’ve done more of this training in righteousness . But nobody can say “ I am without sin now “..... all we can say is we are getting better at believing Christ in me as me . It’s not a doctrine , it’s a manifestation of greater and greater unity and love. Of being inside each other in a holy and healthy way ..... not codependency , aiding and abetting each other’s Genesis 3 alone-I. This is why we “ sniff the air “ like Paul . Because we are spiritual beings we know this stuff anyway when we are amongst people . Understand this ..... yup , some part is a geographical melding of each church in one location .... but it’s really a continuous state in the Spirit . Having fallen in love , God does mean things like says ....Right you have to move on now !!! So it says in Acts on the beach everybody was loving on Paul as he was leaving , with much tears and crying . They genuinely didn’t know if he would be killed . But it’s this Romans 8 state that we are co pollinating round the world . To the extent we are inside it , to that extent we meet each other instantly inside it . When we were firstlevellers , we met each other inside the glorious knowledge of being born again . When we were baptised in the Spirit we met inside that too . When we were having Romans 3 to 5 opened up we nolonger had to regale each other with the exciting things God had been using us to do . We now knew it was just a glorious grace covered being we’d been brought into . But Romans 8 is the place where you know that you know that you know there is no independent self . Romans 7 has strung you up from the ceiling to prove it . You now know something of being inside each other ..... at least relative to the current Rhema word that Christ is speaking and getting you both involved in . Some people are preaching a Christianity , whatever that is . But Jesus preached Kingdom . The Kingdom of heaven is at hand . 3 1/2 years later there was a microcosm that got called ekklesia . Can we really call anything on earth yet run like a pyramid the world over “ church “ or “ ekklesia “? Does it even look like Acts 2? I’ve never heard this spelt out by anybody but me , but isn’t Acts 2 just the Holy of Holies furniture ? In the Holy of Holies there’s a prepared mercy seat . An acacia box covered inside and out with gold , stacked out with three forms of Word . Testimonies of “ Life being lived “ The Rhema NOW Word The Declaration of pulling the whole of heaven into our earth space . Or the almond stick declarations of Deliverance . And above the Mercy Seat the manifestations of Gods Now glory , His Shekinah Presence . So in Acts 2 we see this as all one package . And that is our blueprint as ekklesia . Well where is it ? Anywhere ? For brief instances God works revival like Jesus Word of knowledge about where the fish are . The fish are found and all the ministries are fighting each other over the nets and the biggest hauls . Then we go back to Jesus in the gospels and see the same pattern and reproduction of Kingdom . God has to start somewhere so He starts with His Chosen Son , who though solo , in His Heart are the highways to Zion . So unlike any other ministry anywhere Jesus brings 12 ordinary people into this co shared Holy of Holies reality by Acts 2. Extraordinary . But I’ve never heard that spelled out by anybody ever . Not even R Edward Miller who prayed in the Argentine Revival Not even Jorge Pradas who established a church in every province of Argentina and some others in Europe and UK. WHAT IS IT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING ?


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Yeldall Manor where the Fisherfolk were based in UK, then Vic Gledhill based Life for the World Trust  Drug Rehab here.


  Unless you are born of the Kingdom you cannot see the Kingdom . It’s just endless religious movements and stone buildings scattered across the nations . Cain church and Abel church . Understand the Anglican harvest festival is but a small meme of the entire thing but it sure does go a long way to capturing the whole of it. The idea of bringing in food that you have harvested out of your own farms , not as a sacrifice for sins exactly, they aren’t quite that mad ...... but it’s some kind of “ works thank offering “ for Gods abundant supply . It’s some tins “ on the side “ which will be farmed out to people who will be genuinely grateful , doubtless . But real Kingdom is real heart relationship with God and each other . It dismantles the whole of Genesis 3 separation from the inside of the heart out . We really do all go into the ground and die .... Not to OUR AUTHENTIC SELF..... To our whole Satanically driven spirit infestation that takes a Cross to deliver us in death and resurrection. Our authentic God conceived and God created self comes bouncing back bigger than ever !!! Norman Grubb calls it “ us - with a wink “. Because we know that at our inner centre we have died !!!! If this process doesn’t have Jesus label on it , it isn’t . It’s just that it’s a Holy Spirit label that can’t be seen except by born again eyes . When did I give to you a drink Jesus ? When that little one came in my name and asked for a drink . What is “ my name “? Spontaneously God driven . There is a beggar type who hasn’t the slightest intention of anything other than free food , and they claim that they are coming in Gods Name and asking you for free stuff . But just “ claiming “ and “ being something spontaneous “ in your own God given integrity are two different things . Back to the heart thing . All of us are naturally something . First thing I got used in was having loads of songs . These were a blessing to the Body . Then I got cheesed off . Know why ? I can articulate it now . I didnt want to be stuck for ever and a day with aiding and abetting the Genie Aladdin’s Lamp rubbing of praise . I wanted to get to the heart of what the apostles were actually doing . Vic Gledhill had a burden for all the drug addicts . He began Life for the World Trust and they moved into the Reading House that the Fisherfolk had lived in . During the height of multilevel marketing I met Vic again . By this time he was into motivational speaking in business . A kind of less well known Zig Ziglar . I asked him how he’d pulled away from his drug rehab work . “Only a small number ever get free “said Vic . “I got tired of wasting my life on losers . I feel I can make a greater contribution with those that want to change their mindset .” Want my perspective on that ? Perhaps you dont . My perspective is that is that Vic was a cross between a Matthew and a Mark . He likes things to be practical and actually work , but like Lance Walnau , he’s also a big perspective man , who likes setting things in motion . A builder . An entrepreneur . But if you never “ see “ how Jesus came not only to bless us with Deuteronomy 28 blessings , but to completely reverse the Genesis 3 lie ..... anything you practically try to do for people won’t get anywhere . That’s why we preach Kingdom . That’s why we preach seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness . Not just to be mean . Because it’s the only thing that works . Marxism doesn’t work . Actually neither left nor right politics works . Kingdomtics is the only thing that works , and contains every shade of genuine positivity within all of it .

Friday, 17 November 2017

Not Kirk or the Greek goddess Cerce.....but Ekklesia

Ekklesia is a pattern, a protocol
in the Spirit...
seeing what the Father is doing Ps123
Activating the Body
And above all faith power and love.
You can have love but the afflicted leave still afflicted.
You can have power, and people leave delivered but as vulnerable as orphan sheep to get themselves tangled up in similar messes again.
You can have expectancy and faith but have no knowledge of your own personal need for power or personal relationship with Father.
Ekklesia has nearly nothing to do with church as it is.
Church as it is disobeys scripture at every level. If you are a ministry gift in ekklesia you are one of many, who love each other whole heartedly and simply don't care anymore who does what as long as people grow and the Kingdom and the Person of Christ become a little more rooted inside all the saints.

Friday, 3 November 2017

God's Light brings definition - a Look at 4 points in history









Please link these four histories.
1.God saying to Israel both through Moses direct, and later about that time period in the desert but as recalled by prophets...
the jist is while you were not a people, I called you and betrothed you in the desert....
(the tribe of Dan didn't feel very married, or didn't want to be, because as soon as they arrived in Canaan they toddled off, and Julius Caesar says they formed Greece)
2. Jesus preaching a whole new level, and finding that He had to do most of it on the shores of Galilee and in the hills beginning with mutlitudes.
3. Late 60s and 70s people were being baptised in the Spirit across the world in their thousands and wondering what on earth to do now. They snuck out to Fountain Trust meetings at the London Friends meeting House. or , like in Emsworth they held "extra curricular activities" was it once a week or once a month , gathering from different churches round people's front rooms.
4. Wondering what on earth to do, one bunch as Dave Tomlinson describes in Post Evangelical and M Scott Peck "The Different Drum".....one bunch feel unhappy now with the "socialisation stage and strait jacket" and ditch a formal relationship with God to follow and research spirituality in general another bunch like myself notice that there is something essentially sick still with 1 John 2's "young man stage". I mean the charismatic thing is a necessary transition stage, but like the disciples circling the mountain of God for 40 years.....THE ACTUAL LAND OF PROMISE it was not....
In each of the histories, and I believe currently today, God always brings more Light, more definition.
in the wilderness God had to wait for a malleable next generation of fresh hearts, to be able to take the people into the Land. The definition if you like was , after 40 years of merrygo round
One morning Joshua said....
Now , Today, we are going up to the land.
Imagine the shock to the system.
In Galilee, Jesus had healed the sick, fed the multitude, preached widely....but He was disturbed.
And as if playing out naturally in the background, He also heard of John the Baptist His relation, having his head cut off.
He was floored internally....He had to spend time really hearing God intently.
Two things happened to bring definition.
120 disciples, who followed more closely still wasn't defined enough. He was led to choose by the Spirit 12 men....and led to choose a devil as one of them. I guess this mirrors the reality we are in now, where as He said....after the farmer sows, an enemy would come by night. So now we too have a field that is made up of genuine God people, and complete fakes.
secondly His preaching changed gear in John 6. He told the multitude that He wasn't here to provide all their outer stuff, He wanted to get at the root of their beings.....for the first real time since Genesis 3, He had come to bring the Bread out of Heaven, by which we may be born again , eat, and bear fruit, thirty, sixty and 100 fold.
In Emsworth a Catalonian evangelical who fled Spain and Franco's death warrants and imprisonment.....yup the civil War had always been about the Vatican taking back their power....
Jorge Pradas found himself in one of those loose and woolly fellowship meetings in Emsworth and by the Spirit asked them suddenly to show him in the New Testament what "a fellowship was".
You can have fellowship, but nowhere is the word "a fellowship".
That;s David "New Cartism".
The only thing in the New Testament is "the Church of the Living God", as Watchman Nee says....in a local geography.
if you isolate the tiniest bit of my body it is Chris Welch DNA.
If you reduce the size of a gathering of believers down to two in a place......it is still the ekklesia....the church of the Living God meeting in the Name of Jesus.
So Jorge asked by the Spirit, "Are you people here the Church or aren't you?"
That was how Emsworth Church was born. Perhaps it should have been called New Brighton Road Church, or later Horndean Road Church. Considering there were other believers meeting in the usual denominations...perhaps it was a bit steep to call it Emsworth Church....but maybe equally it woke some of the sleeping denomination people.
So we come to online stuff.
I came online because there was no terrestial place to share the thirdlevel. Many of us on here are here for the same reason.
But that doesn't make it right. It may make it a New Cart....but New Carts are dangerous.2 Samuel 6.
When in 1973-5 many many of us were withdrawing from 1st level Christian situations to position ourselves for the secondlevel Jesus was bringing in, we found ourselves isolated, meeting in front rooms, and some number of us across the world fell sexually. (Jamie Buckingham for example)
Now I am not calling Jorge Pradas a proper thirdlevel apostle, but in many pioneering ways he was pretty darned close....and for those days, in the 70s he was establishing works of God that were starting to look like real churches that we read of in Acts.
But ONE THING that wasn't going to happen too quickly in a real church setting , where you are walking eyeball to eyeball in Light.....is adultery or fornication.
Blogs and Facebook have been very similar to the use of books when invented in Guttemburg .
When mass flyers and cheap printed sheets were available in the 60s, Watchman Nees works were flying everywhere. The Jesus Move was built on things like David Wilkerson's Jesus maturity manual, hippie type colourful gospel fliers.
I created a potted version of the normal Christian Life for my school.
But Books and online media ARE NOT CHURCH.
Jesus had to move from the multitude....actually at one point the Bible says...seeing the multitude he went in the other direction.
He became defined in the Spirit. He poured Himself into 12. With an overspill of 120 including his Mum and Mary Magdalen.
Judging by who was at the tomb it seems they were actually listening.
I think it was 2012 -2014 some of us were on a continuous private Thread sharing, as we could in our schedules all round the clock all round the world.
Things do have a natural course, and perhaps it was over.
But it was during this period I suddenly saw how all through history God has defined MOVES.
We can see this in Nehemiah 8.
Notice how key this book is. The FIRST thing the returning people did was build the 12 Gates and walls.
The first thing the Spirit has done since the pouring out of the Spirit in the 1900s has been to redefine and rebuild all these devastations in the Spirit.
But just rebuilding is one thing.
Then chaoter 8 comes.
Some kind of "Gathering in the Square " Prophetic Moment
where things get defined in the Spirit.
Selah.....again

Monday, 30 October 2017

INSIDE OUT - GOD'S "CALLED OUT" HISTORY OF EKKLESIA

A HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD UP UNTIL FACEBOOK AS YOU HAVE NEVER READ IT!!!!!
ek-klesia
called out
1 Peter2.9 chosen generation,(we are a different genus-eration)
called out from the general congregation to separate yourself unto purpose.... But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession,
2 Tim 20 -21`Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.
v.19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness.”
Revelation 18:4
4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
The Called out / Sojourning SAGA
called out and banishment sometimes look the same
hebrews 13 :We have an altar from which those who serve the [c]tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come.
Adam and Eve....."called out/banished" but as Norman Grubb reveals so clearly in "Yes I Am"....the curses were the "fastest" way to get back on inner track.....feeling the outer pinches drives us to inner answers...
So what looks like bad news....is actually good news because our innards begin to be reattached to the outer world again!!!!!
Noah...called out to build a boat and preach righteousness
GET this...100 year boat building session of three stories/floors /levels out in a desert where there are NO SEAS yet, and Rain hasnt happened yet, only DEW watering the earth!!!
Babel...called out/banished....into little sovereign groups separated by language....UNTIL Ephesians 1.11 ...an administration suitable to the summing up of the ages
Why? BIG GROUPS HAVE THEIR OWN MOMENTUM THAT CAN SUCK THEM OFF TRACK.
Terah, Abraham's Dad, calls his family out...
so they can have enough peace and quiet to really hear
And Abraham gets the Big Calling out
But he's called IN
Pays a deposit !!!! on the Land...
But then he's called OUT of where he was called IN
And he sojourns
Jacob's son Joseph is "called out/ banished" by his brothers, left in a hole to die, then rescued but sold as a slave into Egypt.
His brethren "receive the call" to go where the food is. Egypt.
Joseph and his brothers reunite.
Moses is "called out " as a baby to survive, when all his peers are killed.....he is "found" by the daughter of Pharoah himself...
His temper leads to murder and he flees....experiences banishment.....
40 years later he comes back to CALL Israel out of Egypt.
40 years later the Israelites are "called in finally to their LAND.
Then they are "called out"....to suffer in Babylon for refusing to walk with God enough to maintain their position as a nation under the One God.
Some return to the land.....
Jesus comes to such a people to "call them out" of their current believing, into a more accurate believing, which lays waste of the original Genesis 3 problem.
his people don't hear.....putting Him out of His hometown
being really unfriendly in synagogues and finally
putting Him out of Jerusalem as refuse, to die in Golgotha, the town dump area.
In Acts 2 Jesus by the Holy Spirit calls out a people away from the old sacrificial system into a New Covenant.
The Jerusalem Jews who refuse the gospel think that they are the IN People....but the real IN People are the OUT people,
and they are soon kicked further out all over Judea and further.
The OUT people ostensibly become the IN people as Rome recognises its own demise, and hugs desperately for saurvival onto the OUT people who are really IN
and forms what it thinks are the new IN people, the Catholic Church...
But the IN people, who really know God and are the Father type people mentioned in 1 John 2....Well those people are SO IN, they have to rush OUT
and became the "Desert Fathers".
The Catholics sent a delegation to Britain. The Celtic church came to visit them on the shore, but the Catholics thinking they were so IN, didn't even stand up to recognise the indiginous Christians. By this the indiginous Christians knew instinctively that the IN People had just shot themselves in the foot by betraying who they really were.....PAGAN BEAST people in fine religious clothing.
The IN People(Catholics) who were really OUT , murdered 70 OUT people (indiginous Christian Bishopswho believed firmly in the Holy Spirit) at Bangor and by it showed themselves though IN to be really OUT.
Nevertheless the OUT Catholics established themselves as the new order over 1000 years in Britain until an IN person in Germany called Luther became an OUT person for daring to suggest righteousness was by faith not works.
Different OUT people who are really IN, have guided Britain, but they were always called NON Conformists by the OUT IN people who nearly always ruled. Cromwell was a mixed exception, being an IN person who used OUT methods and burdened people with LAWS rather then the Holy Spirit.
In 1900 God's new IN people, that the Anglicans put out, were Holy Spirit people. They grew and formed the apostolic movement. But this IN movement that was out, actually became out, because it too was pyramid based, and God was interested in forming a Body.
Interestingly God looked to IN people that were OUT (the denominations) and appeared to work backwards just to fool everybody, and the charismatic movement formed within the IN OUT church. But the IN Church soon put them out and they too in time formed apostolic networks, that like the Pentecostal groups before them were still pyramid structured.
So in the 90s and 2000s people who were into the new OUT, were quickly put OUT of the Newer OUT churches which became the New IN as Timelife began distributing their praise CDs.
The New OUT people began meeting online to discuss how IN LIVING really works from the inside....
And up until 2017 these new IN people are still OUT....
Selah or watch this space

Friday, 30 November 2012

What is our Center? by Kokichi Kurosaki

Posted on Facebook by Merrill Thompson

One might think that with the Bible as the center of Christianity, the unity of Christians could be easily realized. Unfortunately, this has not proved to be true. This inability of Scripture to unify the Lord's people proves that the LETTER of the Bible cannot really replace the living Christ as the center of our faith. The Bible speaks to us of the Life and work of God, and since "life" is greater than its manifestation, it cannot be expressed completely in any logical or theological form. Therefore, the Bible itself cannot escape being understood in many different ways. Thus we see how, in the wisdom of God, it is impossible to make the Scriptures the end or final authority in themselves, for they only express God's authority TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH THE SPIRIT. Let us pause to remember. In rejecting the authority of the Roman Church, the reformers turned to the Scriptures as the authority for their faith and actions. In the fierce conflict of the early days of the Reformation, it was natural that they should seek the security of some objective standard to meet the seemingly unlimited politico-ecclesiastical power of Rome. Therefore the position of the Bible as the God-inspired testimony of the apostles' personal faith in Christ gradually changed and became the source of Protestant "dogma" and the criterion of acceptable faith. REPLACING THE ROMAN POPE, THE BIBLE BECAME THE CENTER OF THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES. And so on the one hand there are the so-called fundamentalists who, accepting the Bible as the "infallible Word of God," believe there is no mistake in the whole Bible, not even in one phrase or manner of wording. To them it is, in the most literal sense, the Word of God from cover to cover, and their faith is utterly dependent on its literal infallibility. On the other hand there are liberals who try to compromise Biblical truth with science. Denying the spiritual in favor of the rational, or adopting the results of the higher and lower criticism, they reject the inspiration of the whole Bible. There are yet others, though, who take the whole Bible to be the Word of God as do the fundamentalists, but in a little different way. They believe that the Spirit acts in the words of the historical records to reveal the LIVING Word. They recognize the Bible as the record of God's revelation of Himself throughout history, climaxing in Christ--an inspirited record resulting from the activity of the Spirit in the individuals who wrote it. There is only one center of Christianity, and this center is spiritual fellowship with God through Christ--LIFE UNION WITH GOD IN CHRIST. When there is this koinonia--fellowship--there is the Body of Christ, the Ekklesia. The Ekklesia exists where there is this life-union with God through Christ. Only this union with God in Christ can be the CENTER of Christianity.