Tuesday 31 January 2012

I'd like you to meet Rosie Esseveld

I have been tuning piano for Rosie for years. Both she and I have had music in us. I've threatened her with my double CD, and she has been threatening me for nearly 20 years with hers.

Well here is a Youtube sampler of her CD entitled "I Saw Your Face".

First up you will notice between her and Ross Gill over at Ross's Lee-on -Solent studio, they have done some crafted material. These are all Rosie's songs,and I have to be honest, I don't think there is an also ran track on here. In their different ways, all the tracks are strong, and quite a few have strong hooks  that encourage replay. Others are classic songs...FULL STOP.

Some of the songs have a brittleness about them which usually only really confident professionals like Kate Bush can pull off. So considering most of Rosie's exposure is leading in worship, where it is not always appropriate to present certain kinds of songs, she has pulled off some of the crafted "songwriter songs" as though she's been touring clubs for years.

Since Emsworth days I've been looking for Kingdom Edge in music. U2 have almost come from the other direction, having made it in the pop scene. But many testify to the incredible communication at a spiritual level that takes place in a U2 concert.   I really did appreciate Delirious when they began at Southampton and Littlehampton . We had to do something, because this rather insipid charismatic culture just couldn't continue as it was.

But you know, just putting on a hoodie or two, or writing in a grunge style to appear hard-edged, might fool people for a while, but the "edginess" of the Kingdom is spiritual. It comes from engrafted Word. Engrafted Word simply means you've eaten it. It's moved from being intellectual posture, to something you've chosen against the tide, against the odds, to go for, trusting Jesus to flesh it out in you.

The "Christ as me, in my form " subject matter in this blog, is gritty, and if anything is likely to produce music and worship to match, it will be this message. When King David returned to Jerusalem having been hunted high and low in deserts, he didnt do the evangelical nervous shuffle (they really should get out more), or the charismatic dainty or not so dainty male dances....I get the impression this was something full-on like a Cossack dance. David was jubilant. Certainly drove Michal his wife up the wall. "How could you be so undignified?"  "I'll get more undignified than this." he said.
To contact Rosie for Cds or  downloads from Itunes :


The music gets under your skin!!!  I am not joking. Listen, like me, she's paid for everything herself. I am not on commission here, I bought her CD for £10 before I even heard it, because I know her heart ..... but this is the real stuff on every level. Even top artists have filler tracks. This CD has none.
1.I will run
2 Days of Glory
4 Not Gonna Hold Me
5Holding On
6 I saw Your face
7 Praise to the Holy one
8 Heavenly Father
9 One Everlasting
10 To the One Who is Holy
11 Hold it in your heart
12 I'm Calling
13 Reign


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    • Carol Lucas Winkler Loooooooooooovvvvvvvvve her!!!!!
      Thanks Chris! :)

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    • Chris Welch
      Rosie's got in the same problem a lot of us have which is knowing there is some sort of sound that is original to us, so we weren't happy with all of the classical training....that is we wanted the skill, but we didn't want to be frogmarched down someone else's alley. But if people asked well,what is it you do want then, because it is essentially the "sound of heaven itself" and the Kingdom, without actually doing it and showing people, we couldn't explain.

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    • Chris Welch
      I have a song on my CD called the Blood Song, and I spent ages trying to recreate what I was hearing inside me to do with the Book of Revelation when no one is found worthy....but the Lamb Himself.I think why I am so excited about Rosie's CD is it mirrors my personal biography and double CD. Oh and it has passion. I am pig sick of the charismatic movement which is like Hallal or Kosher meat, it is bloodless.The charismatic movement is like the first commandment rewritten with the word "some" and "when it suits you" and "minus the heart" instead of all of everything.

      35 minutes ago ·

Monday 30 January 2012

FOT 15 - And the People Come In plus "The Presentation" by Chris Welch

Feast of Tabernacles - George H. Warnock

And the Feast of Ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labors out of the field" (Ex. 23:16).
If the Passover was wonderful--and it certainly was--how much more wonderful shall we expect Pentecost to be in its fullness? And if Pentecost is wonderful, how much more shall we expect Tabernacles to exceed it in glory? In the Passover we have but the Sheaf of Firstfruits by way of harvest, and not the harvest itself. But Pentecost was the harvest. And what a tremendous harvest there was! And so now the Feast of Ingathering must far surpass Pentecost, even as Pentecost surpassed the harvest of the Sheaf of Firstfruits.

The Cross and Pentecost--this was but the dawning of the great Day of the Church. That Day has already extended some nineteen hundred years and more, and the sun rises higher and higher and higher in the heavens of God's eternal purpose. We are not inferring that the glory of the Sun continued to grow more brilliant as it rose in the sky. It should have done so, but through the disobedience of the reapers the sun was darkened, and the moon (even the Church) did not give her light. The history of the Church is a history of darkness and sorrow and bitterness. What happened? Did the Sun of Righteousness set in the heavens, and was the Church swallowed up in defeat? Ah no! It was not the setting of the Sun, but it was a great eclipse that caused the darkness, even the eclipse of the Dark Ages.
First there was the eclipse of the moon, the Church. In her circuit about the heavens she was caught in the shadow of the earth, and the corruption of the earth transformed her beautiful glow into blood and sorrow. And then there was the eclipse of the Sun. The apostate Church in her circuit obscured the glory of the Sun, so that earth-dwellers witnessed the eclipse of Truth himself. Truth perished from the earth; and joy withered away from the sons of men. Hence the Dark Ages! A few godly saints were left, for God has always had His believing remnant; and how they must have thought the Sun had set forever upon the once-glorious Church! But no! It was just an eclipse, and in due course--according to Divine pattern, the moon began once again to take on her celestial glow, and the Sun began to shine brilliantly in the heavens of the Church Age. The Reformation had started. Light began to dawn upon the darkened understandings of men, and truth began to be restored to the Church. And the Reformation has not ended by any means. Indeed, it too seems to have gone into partial eclipse. But rays of promise are again breaking forth from the heavens. "The darkness is passing away, and the true light now shineth" (1 Jn. 2:8, Literal).
"Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?" (Song 6:10). She is the group known as the overcomers. She is the "undefiled," "the choice one of her that bare her." As we mentioned before, there are many, many groups in the Church, according to God's plan and purpose; and we are not attempting to make any particular distinction between them. "There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number. My dove, my undefiled is but one" (Song 6:9). There is a place for all God's people in His great House; but shall we not seek after that intimate place of fellowship and communion with Him in the very "secret place of the Most High?" Says Paul, "In a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honor, and some to dishonor..." All the saints have a place in God's Church; but one company receiveth the highest prize. The challenge is therefore thrown out to the saints everywhere, to rid themselves of the corrupting influences of the flesh and of the natural, and to diligently seek the things of the Spirit of God. "If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honor, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work" (2 Tim. 2:20, 21).

Jesus testified, "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth (pruneth) it, that it may bring forth more fruit" (Jn. 15:1, 2). The Church, the Garden of God! Surely this truth alone is sufficient to establish the fact that the Church's day must end in great fertility and unparalleled prosperity. If we constitute God's Garden, then nothing shall prevent the great Husbandman from bringing His heritage to abundance and fruition. It is His responsibility to look after it, and to see that it brings forth a harvest for His glory. "For the Lord shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the Garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody" (Isa. 51:3).
God always brings light out of darkness, life out of death, joy out of sorrow, strength out of weakness, and fruition out of barrenness. We can rejoice, therefore, as we see the desolation of Zion, knowing that her "desert" shall become like the very Garden of the Lord. "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing..." (Isa. 35:1, 2).

"A garden enclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed... Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices there of may flow out" (Song 4:12, 16). Both winds are necessary for God's Garden: the blighting cold wind of the north to test and try the saints; and the warm breezes from the south, to bring forth the fragrance of the Spirit. We can be thankful, then, that in all the strife and bitterness of the Church's history, God's sovereign purposes have been fulfilled. For God has reserved the time of the "south wind" until now. "For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; the flowers appear on the earth" (Song 2:11, 12).

We are looking forward with anticipation for the coming of the promised "latter rain." The saints of God are thirsting for these living streams from heaven. But how little do we realize that God is more anxious for the "latter rain" than we are! And why? Because He is the Gardener; and He is waiting for the Feast of Ingathering, when He might gather in the precious produce. "Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he (it) receive the early and latter rain" (Jas. 5:7). God is waiting for the hour when He shall bestow His latter rain, just as anxiously--and even more patiently--than we are. James says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord," for in a very real sense the coming of the latter rain is the coming of the Lord into the midst of His people. That is exactly what the prophet Hosea declared: "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth" (Hos. 6:3). The time is at hand when we may with all confidence expect the latter rain, for this is the last day, and God's triumphant Church must be a glorious Church. However, it is not only the latter rain for which we are looking, but the latter and former rain! What does this mean?

Let us refer to Joel's prophecy concerning the former and the latter rain. This refers to the seed rain and the harvest rain. God promised that His people should have both in due season as they walked in His ways: "The first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil" (Deut. 11:14). This is what James was referring to, and it is that which Joel prophesied about:
"Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil" (Joel 2:23, 24).
Of course, this passage did have a partial fulfillment at Pentecost, inasmuch as Peter declared: "This is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel..." and we have already pointed out that Pentecost is a harvest of Firstfruits. The fullness of the harvest, however, is the Feast of Ingathering in the seventh month, when the wine and the oil were gathered in. You see, Israel observed two different calendars: they had the Sacred Year which began with the Passover in April, commemorating their departure from the land of Egypt, and their beginning as a redeemed nation. But they also had what has been termed a Civil Year, or an Agricultural Year, which began in October. This, then, was the first month of the Civil Year, but at the same time it was the seventh month of the Sacred Year--the month of the Feast of Tabernacles.
What Joel prophesied then, was this: "Be glad then, ye children, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately..." Dispensationally this was Pentecost, when God first poured out His Spirit in copious showers of the former rain. Peter therefore could testify: "This is that..." But it was only part of what Joel had prophesied, for he continued: "And he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain, in the first month." The period from October to April was the rainy season. Then followed the long summer months when no rains were to be expected. The October and early November rains were called the former or the seed rains--the rains which prepared the ground for the seed; then the rainy season ended with the latter rains of April, or the harvest rains--that which caused the grain to ripen; preparatory for the harvest.
Joel's prophecy, therefore, speaks of Pentecost--but it goes on to embrace the fullness of Pentecost, even the Feast of Tabernacles. God did give the former rain moderately--in the Pentecostal Age extending from the early Church until now. But here is something very unusual. Right here in the "first month" of the Agricultural Year (the seventh month of the Sacred year) God has promised to do something most unusual; for He would give, not only the former rain which belongs to that month, but He would give the former rain and the latter rain combined!
Can we not see from this what God has promised His people in this great hour? Not only the fullness of a great and glorious harvest, as in Pentecost. And not only the wonderful harvest of Tabernacles, the Feast of Ingathering. But all the glory and power of the early Church combined with all the glory and power which rightfully belongs to the triumphant Church of the last days! All her former glory combined with all her latter glory! Truly we cannot begin to imagine the great and tremendous things which God hath prepared for them that love Him! "And he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain, in the first month,"--Or, "in the beginning of the season." It is the promise, not only of the early and latter rain in the hour of the Feast of Tabernacles (the "first month" of the Civil Year, but the seventh of the Sacred Year)--but it is also a promise of the great day of harvest. "And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil" (Joel 2:24). The normal procedure is: the early and the latter rain, then the harvest which culminates at Pentecost, then the long summer months of dry weather, and then the final ingathering at the year's end. And that indeed is the way it has happened dispensationally in the Church: the former rain at Pentecost, but only moderately-- producing only a moderate harvest, and followed by a great period of drought for century upon century. Now the Lord will do a quick work in the earth. This is the focal hour of Church history. Now we shall have not only the great and mighty harvest of the seventh month, the Feast of Ingathering, but the former and the latter rain combined! A veritable deluge of rain from the gates of Heaven! No wonder the prophet prophesied, "The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former..."

"And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil." Or, literally, "New wine and oil," beautiful symbols of the fruit of the Spirit in the saints. Said Paul, "Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit" (Eph. 5:18). And the oil, as we know, is a symbol of the anointing. "The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you..." (1 Jn. 2:27).
This great ingathering is the harvest for which the husbandman has been waiting ever since the foundation of the Church. Gifts of the Spirit are really no evidence of spiritual attainment; God bestoweth His gifts freely by His grace upon whomsoever He will. But with fruit it is entirely different. Fruit must grow; and God has never intended that the Body of Christ should ever bring forth fruit except through a continual Divine growth in the Spirit of God. The Ascension gifts that we mentioned are for the purpose of adding growth to God's Garden, that we "may grow up into Him" (Eph. 4:15). God will not come to us looking for gifts, but for fruits of the Spirit. He gave us His gifts freely by His grace, and all we had to do was to receive them and use them. What God wants now is fruit, because that is something which He can receive from you. That is something which must grow upon you by your patient and continual walk with God and your appropriation of His Spirit. Until now the Husbandman has come into His garden, pruning, cultivating, watering--without expecting anything in return. But now the harvest time is approaching, and soon He shall visit His garden for one purpose and for one purpose only: seeking for fruit, and trusting that His tender care over the vine has produced genuine fruit of the Spirit.
Let us never forget that the fruits of the Spirit, and not the gifts of the Spirit, constitute the real test of spiritual life; for the latter are given to produce the former, and it is the fruit that is the embodiment and expression of Christ-likeness within the heart and soul. That is why Paul exhorted, "Follow after love, and desire spiritual gifts..." (1 Cor. 14:1). Gifts are absolutely necessary, for they are the means to the end; but Love is the end, the consummation, the fruit for which God is waiting. Love is the Ultimate, because "God is Love," and it is His purpose to conform the saints even unto "the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Rom. 8:29). Love is the End: but it is an End which knows no beginning or ending, for it is God himself; and when we become thoroughly united with Him we are in a realm which is eternally progressive.
O what a grand and glorious day awaits the Church in the Feast of Ingathering! The Day of the fruit of the Spirit! Because we do not have the fruit of the Spirit in any degree of fullness, we cannot appreciate its glory. Before the gifts of the Spirit were restored to the Church we had a faint conception of what they would be like, but what a revelation it is as we see them gradually unfolding before our eyes! So with the fruit of the Spirit. We know what they are: "Love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance" (Gal. 5:22). But we shall never appreciate any measure of their real glory until the fruit of the Spirit becomes visibly manifest in the saints of God.


The Presentation

by Chris Welch Facebook Note on Saturday, 28 January 2012 at 23:06
Every so often things happen.
In the Melchizedek Order.
We're not talking humanly organised.
We're talking God's agenda pad.
John 7 is one interesting chapter. You see every year the Jews celebrated their Feasts. Jesus said to his brothers, "Your time is always with you". Originally it didn't seem Jesus was even going to turn up. He did turn up. He virtually took over the show. The Spirit kind of exploded through Him on the day of the Outpouring of Water, which was part of the Feast of Tabernacles, that HE WAS THE WATER OF LIFE.Every year the Jews held their Feasts. But at other times God held His events.

The birth of Jesus had its own choral event combined with angelic announcement.Nobody knew or particularly cared about the birth of the Messiah. Well they cared about their idea of the Messiah. The one that would lend strength to their egos as Sovereign of the Jewish master Race. It was promised you know.

But the real Jewish Messiah, the one recorded beforehand in Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, only the shepherds cared about.And in particular because they were greatly honoured to be especially told about it.

There's a generation today like that. They are about to be told. But no one from Judaism or Christendom will know about it, because they still have an alternative Messiah to the real one. But those honoured to be told at all, they'll be there. That every mouth be stopped.
That grace just be grace.
You see everything is wheels within wheels.
Cycles within cycles.

Every year we have Spring Harvest. The Call. Soul Survivor. Music events. Denominational events.

But then, every few decades and accelerating, there are the God events.

Just like Simeon and Anna happening to be at the Temple just about the time Jesus was presented to the Lord, and being on hand to prophecy sovereignly over His life, and the life of mankind.Every so often, there's the fruition of years.

You see God has a seed. The Seed of His Son.
Sown as people receive the Passover message.
Confirmed and anointed as people receive the Pentecost Message.
Then manifested  like a "coming out" ball in completeness at Spirit directed Tabernacles events. Part of Tabernacles is the Feast of Ingathering, what people call revivals. Except for those pioneering the moves, this is no revival. This is Jesus coming out of them, fullgrown.

People  think the Welsh revival came in 1906. That was just the end product- the Feast of Tabernacles presentation. But the Seed was sown in the previous revivals in the 1800s, and 1850s. These were Melchizedek order groups, nursing the seed as it grew, until the Coming out Debutante Ball !!!

In 1970s, Watchman Nee had willingly sown his life into a Communist jail where he had his tongue cut out , and he died. He did this as an intercessory act for China and the West.But simultaneous to this a prophetess called Jean Darnall directed Britain, in poor shape spiritually, to hold a Festival of Light as a prophetic declaration using all the old Beacons throughout Britain. Then culminating in two London Festivals. One in 1971 and then the one I was present at in 1972.

This was the era when denominations were hearing the message about the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Initially the Word was coming in the framework known as Fountain Trust. Within a year or so we were hearing the prophetic message that God had so much more. And it was coming through two groups of men to us Brits.
The housechurch leaders. These held significant meetings in London.
And from the States we received input from a group that became localised at Fort Lauderdale Florida.

Don Basham was used sovereignly and from his point of view totally unplanned in our hometown of Amersham. A whole houseful were baptised in the Holy Spirit in my friends's house.It was reported that they had had an orgy. (Clearly someone had noticed them all hugging each other....this was Britain 1967 remember!!)

The point I am trying to make, well several...are God's sovereign timing...HE IS IN CHARGE
The cyclic nature of the preparation lasting decades, hopefully accelerating.
The nature of progressively greater vision.

It was around 73-75. I have reported in my Demi Lune post
I reported how we had read of this huge vision outlined in Isaiah. But how on earth did a little two-bit Old Town Amersham Baptist Church tie in with it?

And then we heard about the Bible Weeks. And heard the Ern Baxter message from Kansas City in 1975.This is the point i want to make. We were denominational but Spirit-filled Christians. The only thing we knew about was receiving the Holy Spirit's power in order to share with other people we knew about the salvation offered inJesus Christ.

What we didnt know when we gathered in Dales Bible Week Harrogate Yorkshire in a huge cowshed used for agricultural shows was that when God does one of His sovereign presentations everything changes gear.

Melchizedek order events are not man made. God sets them up decades before. He chooses and anoints (quite often) totally unknown hidden people.

David Duplessis of the charismatic move was chosen through prophecy through the mouth of Smith Wigglesworth in 1946, some 20 years before he was really used as figurehead throughout Africa and the world.Melchizedek order events are always hugely bigger than anyone can imagine. Not only numerically, but in substance and in vision.  With each unveiling, or "apocalypse"  (same word for transfiguration), each cycle is amost frighteningly bigger and all encompassing.

None of us expected anything like the Dales. It blew us right out of our denominational mentaliities.That's when we became Kingdom people.

These events are bigger , more substantial for these reasons.

God says about prayer, and waiting upon Him.....don't heap up words as the gentiles do with their prayers. Unbelieving Anglicans heap up the Lord's prayer each week as a meaningless ritual. They have absolutely no idea what they are reciting, apart from a parrot fashion lipsync.Instead we are to go into our inner room and meet with our Daddy Father in secret. We listen out for Him. We love on him. We commune with His heart. Which is huge. We listen to His heartbeat. We capture His vision. We receive the DNA infrastructure of His next Melchizedek events. Small and large. Whatsoever we hear in the secret place, shall, down the road be shouted loud from the rooftops, over P.A systems in stadiums. At the next big events.

These events are more substantial because each generation is standing on the last, and Jesus continues to "come" stronger and stronger in His saints. Saints literally have MORE of the substance of Christ, which like concrete is being laid thicker and thicker inside the saints.

Then put all these secret place whispers, of all the 12 tribes,in thicker and thicker concentrations into one gathering place, and the step change is, to begin with almost too much for everybody. The presence of God corporately is almost frightening. You see all of us tend to live in our small family units, or at best meet in our local church, but Melchizedek events are a bit like Close Encounters of the Third Kind . Quite often with little advertising, everyone knows, maybe by virtue of the sort of gathering it is, or the sort of hungry people who are going to be there, or by virtue of the Lord's dealings that we know about among the people that will be there....

For whatever reason, when we actually arrive, we're a bit breathless. How on earth did these other guys hear about it?

This was so for the Holy Spirit instructed teach-in on evangelism and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in my friend Rachel's house in April 1972. it was in South Bucks for heaven sake. How did those teenagers from Noth Bucks know about it?

Melachizedek events really are like the building of Solomon's Temple. Previously hewn in secret quarries, all the pieces appear to come together perfectly and pretty seamlessly, yet totally beyond human planning. To a certain extent this happens with every Spirit Church meeting....but nowhere is it more obvious than in the larger Melchizedek events.

Lastly, these events are more substantial because of the new vision level that the Holy Spirit chooses to unveil. All God's vision requires the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF to bring it to pass. As little denominational or new housechurch people, the KINGDOM vision that was presented was so vast, because it encompassed the whole world, we thought how on earth can these things be? All we'd known at Dr Challenors Grammar School ,Amersham UK was attempts to close us down, to hush us up, to render our little Christian union absolutely useless and ineffective in the larger school. Looking back it is very like the legitimacy of the Catholic Church at the end of the Roman empire. Sure we had our meeting place, but we had various strictures placed upon us, that as naive schoolboys we probably took on board far too swiftly. This was and is how Communist China deals with Christian churches. They formed the 3 self Movement, which is a government policing, emasculating the spread of the gospel. Ofcourse the house church movement (illegally) expands more and more.Yet God knows the end from the beginning. He knows what He calls us to and how it is to be fulfilled. He knew about things we didnt know or couldnt envisage. The Power of the gospel itself was far greater and deeper than we knew through Billy Graham. Although we saw signs through Wurmbrand that this was one heck of a power coming out of a human. Then we knew nothing about 3stages of growth, sattellite TV. Home PCs. And here it is.
Right now.
The next awesome stage is about to be announced.
The Third Level. The Third Feast. The Incarnation of Christ in the Believers. The Last Great Battle.
Music like you've never heard in your life.
Worship so intense you may be fooled that you are in heaven.
12 tribes worth of revelation streaming.
Healing and miracle power like your eyes will hardly be able to apprehend.
Some leaders you will recognise who know how to move with the Melchizedek order, just as Arthur Wallis and Derek Prince did. Many are totally new and unheard of by man, but totally and intimately known by God.

You are going to enjoy this, if initially apprehensive. Most responded to angels this way. The angels had to always say, Do not be afraid.

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    • Cliff Gableman Very blessed to read, and as I read the Witness came with exclamation..we are on the precipes of a move that will totally engulf the nations......the living stones are being brought together and bonded together with HIS elastic LOVE........and these living stones, these nobody's that have been in the waiting room for decades, will be at the forefront as the true manifested sons of the true priesthood.
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    • Craig Castleman Wow, Chris. Bring it on! I can't wait, ha. Thanks SO MUCH for sharing, bro.
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    • Joan Reilly exhilarating, exciting, thrilling beyond anything I've ever contemplated.
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    • Daniel Yordy
      The overwhelming intensity you speak of was the same in the move under Sam Fife from about 1967 to 1979, the urgent gathering together, the outpoured anointing, the clarion word from the throne. I caught the tail end of it. But you know, I ...See more

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    • Daniel Yordy Chris, I think I'm going to borrow this and send it in my letter.
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    • Chris Welch Daniel we cant all live in the centre of his will like we do in the UK!!!! No only joking....What seems to happen so far here is that....you say something....a few months later I get it, am gripped by it, put it out, then Annalize says she has bookshelves on the stuff already!!!
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    • Chris Welch
      You can certainly borrow this. Sam Fife was on a totally different plane in what he was sharing to what we heard in the 70s. i can understand my friends Pete and Judy Ashton being quite insular at the time in Fishers Pond Colden Common Sout...See more

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    • Chris Welch Joan so glad you liked this. You are going to be so glad you met the bathroom floor. Obviously I don't know details, but right in the thick of it as we start to experience the very mists of glory starting to become visible to the naked eye, you're going to think......wow.....when I was hanging below the toilet seat, kind of vaguely face down....I never dreamt that God would bring me to this....and on earth too!
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    • Chris Welch And you'll look round and see a whole load of countless folk all with startled bathroom expressions....and you'll all laugh hysterically at how brilliant Jesus is.
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    • Rich Novek
      Bless our God, O peoples!

      Give him a thunderous welcome!
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    • Rich Novek The Message
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    • Chris Welch Yes.....it's a great bunch of verses that just about suits the FB Joy post I put up.
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    • Rich Novek One of my favorite passages, God gave me this when i was in my 20's, just before I moved away from my home town the first time with a wife and new baby. I moved to Seattle in 83, and it turned out being the most amazing time, especially in regards to my relationship with Christ! it's REAL Christianity in a nice compact nutshell!

Saturday 28 January 2012

Real life versus Spiritual life ??????

Real Life Garfield

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by Chris Welch on Wednesday, 25 January 2012 at 12:07
Remember the "too heavenly minded to be of any spiritual use" phrase?
Then we learned Christ Life is Life.
There is ONLY ONE life in the universe.

So what's going on out there in real terms?
Why is the "appearance" that spiritual life and real life are different?Daniel Yordy, Rich Novek, Fred Pruitt,Ole Henrik Skjelstad,Brian Coatney,myself and many many others you know run teaching blogs. I find it incredible that over a 1000 have not so far got rid of me on Facebook. Because the truth is,so called real life, the bill paying life, the financial remuneration side of life, with boards and trusts, and pyramids of power have in REAL terms rejected every single one of us , some for as many as 30 years or more. Yet we would declare that we are preaching the real thing. LIFE.   We might not have every bit of it in articulable form. We believe we have received the whole thing in the Person of Jesus. But as year follows year He keeps peeling off onion layers, and we "see" a completely new bit we never even imagined before, let alone "saw close-up".  In general, Jesus keeps wrecking our theology. But one thing is absoluteley clear: as trustworthy as we feel our revelation is, absolutely no system out there thinks likewise about us. So, without the added comfort of being nicely tithed to, we've had to believe for decades that this LIFE will carry us through financially. And this seems to be how the Melchizedek Order works.

So this tells us immediately "real life", a life sewn up in different forms of pyramids of supply, is somehow different from the LIFE that is central to the Universe.Jesus had no trustee board, or mission organisation that existed apart from Him after He died. Tellingly, any infrastructure that might have existed, went back to their fishing nets straight after his death.  Jesus effectively scuppered their return to "real life", by appearing in resurrection form. It kind of messed up their "real life " from thereon in. Except that "real life" is not the same as LIFE.Life, the Life that sustains the whole universe with His Word of Power, walks right into death and out the otherside, appearing coolly,normally and unflustered, then mistaken in the total non-hype of it all, for a gardner.

Which , the more you think about it, is even more cool still. LIFE, the real stuff....is Soooooo  normal....it's cool.I suppose, Hollywood or Clint Eastwood would have had Jesus coming silently out of the grave, with a cowboy hat and a brim covering his eyes slightly, leaning nonchalantly against the very very heavy rock, now pushed aside, with a Peter Stuvesant cigarette flicked lightly with one finger. Perhaps Jesus missed a trick there.

Or not.

Let's look at Jesus financial system.
He just brought the Word, and believed the Father to supply the necessary to keep every one fed and clothed. -And I guess, all the disciples' wives and kids fed and clothed too.
Many females in high places were donating pretty heavily. But there was no system. There was no pyramid that Jesus had bought into.

He preached about flowers. And He preached about birds of the air. Does this seem stupid?
A clue came when the Israelites demand a King, to be like other nations. God the Father, who could have gone ballistic, because above all, this request was a slap in the face to His own sovereign ability to be everything for the people of God, interestingly,He doesnt mention one bit of this....but just out of other love mentions all the things that having Kings bring.Basically you yield up huge amounts of your energy earning power to support someone that, at the end of the day, does NOTHING FOR YOU, that you as a group moving in the Melchizedek order couldn't do much cheaper for your selves.

THERE IS NO SCARCITY. Listen if God can provide manna supernaturally to supply 2 to 3 million people in a desert, what's the problem in an earth of rich supply, minerally,agriculurally, fishily or any other "ily" as long as nations are prepared to LIVE from the ONE LIFE and supply each other.The LIE of "real life" then is that THERE IS LACK, and ofcourse by believing that lie, we have now created it in real terms, because between us all we have funded Monsanto, we have funded the genome project.
I thought the genome project was about our health. Listen sunshines, since when did our health matter acutely to pyramid powers?  No, the huge sums of money made suddenly and magically available to the genome project so that it was completed in a fraction of the expected time, was about nothing more than greed and control. You see, by controlling the world's food and reproduction, you can create more scarcity, and bring in the ultimate control and the ultimate pyramid of all time. The one Daniel and St John saw....and the one that knocked them to the ground because of it's immense Luciferian power. When they saw the vision, they fell faint. Luckily...they saw the next bit too, which was the awesomely greater power of Jesus Christ lived out of human flesh bodies, in an even greater victory, which knocked them off their feet again....

But are you starting to get the picture?
Real life, control and pyramids   was never real life. The power of Rome over all Israel, and therefore over Jesus was totally real. It had an effect on the Sovereign power of the Universe in human form. But in the end. In the end. Real life was not real life, but just a projected illusion. The projected illusion of Lucifer, manifest in Roman form over the whole of the Mediterranean area.In the end, all of us writers have had to decide what is true LIFE, or this projection called "real life", that for 40-50 years were charismatic churches who rejected each of us in turn. We had to find our own supply, the Living Lord Jesus. And this has been good practice for a pyramid system that started turning very vicious around 2008. It is a lie ofcourse.It's a lie, because ever since I have been converted in 1972, God has spoken through the church that this day would come. That there was never any way that the USA in particular and the UK too, could continue with such debt. And the prophetic voices were continually drowned out by "real life" saying the opposite, until suddenly, the false sustainers of this system, decided to pull the rug in 2008. The time had come.Feminism, whatever it was about in God terms....I for one think that the Church lived like dodos for centuries, not understanding that Jean Darnall, Aimee Semple  McPhersonl,Maria Woodworth Etter,Kathryn Kuhlman,Ruth Heflin, in the Spirit were here to stay...
but in human banker Luciferian terms, feminism was never about women, it was about leveraging the last drops of money out of grossly inflated house collateral, to raise the  necessary dollars for the "black ops" star wars machinery and military and scientific equipment to be able to subjugate every last country to a new world order control system.

1800s Austrian state control, followed by Communism and fascism, were just the localised practise runs. This is the "real life" everyone has funded because they never prayed "Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil" every week anymore since the Masonry designed Enlightenment project began 200 years ago.Wars and rumours of wars: wars killed millions in a sacrifice to Satan, as well as hugely funding totaliterian plans. Atom bombs describe really well the devastation in Revelation and there was a rush to bank away in the Arctic already every kind of seed, for such an eventuality.
Jonah's own prophecy shows God's heart is always for people to get right. His prophecy never got fulfilled, which freaked him out. Prophecies are warnings, but if unheeded, will really work themselves out. For there are not  three realms. The Devil. God. And some benign Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil of "educated folk in between".This Knowledge Tree is our light....which is darkness. The darkness is so great, wily and wondrous, it looks just like light to us. But it's a "huge front organisation" for Darkness. In fact it is the biggest. And Revelation describes all the things it will bring if we do not turn to God's own heart. He will DELIVER US from evil, but only if we choose NOT TO GO THE WAY OF TESTING.

We have a little idea of what that was, with Communism and Fascism. Communism to date, under Stalin and Mao, has caused the world's statiscally greatest famines ever....all in the same century. The same Father of lies is planning much greater statistics.Let's choose REAL LIFE, but this time, the REAL REAL LIFE. The one of no scarcity, like the birds overhead, and the flowers beautifully clothed. The supernaturally Word sustained life, of a relationship with God our Father.
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    • Joan Reilly
      Thank God for Real Life, Chris. We see this "real life" unfolding all around us and don't have any control over it. The past many years it was my belief that I had to do something to save our country, our family, our lives. ...participat...See more

      Wednesday at 15:55 · · 5

    • Rich Novek
      Thank you Chris! Hallelujah! Praise His Name! What a testimony of His Grace and POWER! Anyone hearing this woman, did you just hear what she said? She NOW realizes she can't save anyone, she has gone from being "doing" focused to "bein...See more

      Wednesday at 16:08 · · 3

    • Karla Rae Harper Amen. And I've known Joan when she 'knew' this and when she didn't 'know' this....Believe me....you all would like her much more NOW!! LOL!!!
      Yesterday at 01:04 · · 4

    • Rich Novek Joan is a gem, and God used you to make her shine! Woo Hoo!
      Yesterday at 01:09 ·

    • Rich Novek We have a "Real Life" relationship with a "Real Life" God! And the Light IN us, who is also the Light is blazing and shadowless!
      Yesterday at 01:22 · · 2

    • Joan Reilly The above peeps are greatly greatly appreciated and loved. They have blessed my life in countless ways and they know it.
      Yesterday at 02:59 · · 4

    • Nancy Gilmore This is NOT a direct quote from Norman Grubb, but he said something to this effect; "God 'means' evil to be evil, and He is working THAT together for good, where there is faith." I too see this as "seeing through" to God only.
      Yesterday at 03:44 · · 4

    • Rich Novek Cool Nancy! Another Norman pearl!
      Yesterday at 04:27 · · 2

Friday 27 January 2012

Melchizedek Conclusion by EE Brooks

There were Three major feasts in the Old Testament.
Every man in Israel was required to keep all three of
these feasts.
The Feast of Passover – The Feast of Pentecost – The Feast of Tabernacles
These were but a type and a shadow of what would fully come. Jesus is the Passover Lamb, which was slain
for the sins of the world. During Passover we learn all about Jesus. When the Feast of Passover had fully
come Jesus knew his hour had come to be crucified.
John 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should
depart out of this world… (KJV)
When the Feast of Pentecost had fully come, the Holy Spirit was revealed to the world according to the
Bible. During the Feast of Pentecost we learn all about the Holy Spirit. We learn about the gifts and fruits of the
Holy Spirit etc.
It’s no coincidence that God the Father would Reveal Himself during the Feast of Tabernacles! We expect to
learn more about our heavenly Father during Tabernacles. The Feast of Tabernacles has Not Fully come yet.
But we are expecting it at any time now.
During Passover we learned about Jesus.
During Pentecost we learned about the Holy Spirit.
During Tabernacles we will learn about the Father.
When God glorifies the physical body of the "Overcomers" or the "Sons of God," then the Feast of Tabernacles
will have fully come. All creation is currently waiting for this event. God’s GLORY will dwell in the Physical
Bodies which are Not made with Hands! We must go beyond Passover and Pentecost. We are now at the end
of the Pentecost age and are on the threshold of Tabernacles. We must prepare for the New thing God is
about to do.
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, The Tabernacle of God is with Men,
and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them…KJV)
Revelation 18:1 I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the Earth was
Lightened with his Glory. (KJV)
Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the Glory of God
did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
There are 30 - 60 and 100 fold Christians. Some will become One with Jesus and the Father. Some will
actually sit IN God’s Throne! These will not die but be translated into the Melchizedek Priesthood. They’ll
receive the full Glory of the Father in their Body and Shine Like the Sun even as Jesus does!
Matthew 13:43 Then the Righteous will Shine like the Sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let anyone with
ears listen! (NRSV)
Jesus has a Glorified Body and some day you will meet him and be able to shake hands with him, embrace
him and personally thank him face to face! When we see Jesus, "We shall be Like Him!" And remember that
Jesus "is Like Melchizedek" the Father!
The Father is the same way. Some day you will meet him and he will embrace you! He loves you with an
everlasting Love. The Father is approachable and he is lovable. The true nature of the Father is Love,
Mercy and Forgiveness. That’s the highest nature of God. We need to get to know the Most High God in a
more personal way than ever before. The Most High God is El-Elyon, and when we see the Father, "We
shall be like Him too!" We all shall be ONE!
 [E. E. Brooks] . taken from an article called Melchizedek

Chris Welch:  Readers will know I post related articles from different authors.  One of the other authors on this subject is David Swan.
Because we are brought up in linear thinking, we are taught that THIS = THAT.
In the Spirit, Jesus was always saying...."and if you should believe it...Elijah is already come", for example speaking about John the Baptist. Jesus saw things as cycles and patterns. Wheels within wheels.
THIS is not exclusively THAT, it is a type of this or that. Is a pattern of this or that.
It's a different way of thinking.

I believe that many of the things in this article that EE Brooks is seeing its finalised form are themes that are already appearing on the Earth, materializing out of heaven right now....which remember is the Eternal NOW.
So it's natural we start focussing on Jesus in the flesh....Andre Rabe's subjects which state God in flesh was the ORIGINAL plan, not a runner's up prize.

Heaven operates by believing what we cannot see about what is NOW true in the Eternal Now. Then we see what we believe.