Tear Fund Trip

Tear Fund have put together a kind of competition for Christian bloggers. The three "chosen ones" will go out to their Cambodian region and blog back live on their findings. The trip is in March.
 But first WHO ARE TEAR FUND?
TEAR or The Evangelical Association Relief fund can be found at  www.tearfund.org
History
1960s
World Refugee Year (1960) inspires compassionate Christians to send gifts to the Evangelical Alliance. The terrible 1968 famine in Biafra, caused by civil war in Nigeria, prompts the public launch of the fund under the leadership of George Hoffman. The Evangelical Alliance Relief (TEAR) Fund is born. Cliff Richard gives his first fundraising concert for the cause in the Royal Albert Hall in 1969.
1970s
Tearfund expands. Supporters can give £5 per month to sponsor children in Bangladesh, providing food, healthcare and education through Christian projects. We launch a youth and student programme to inspire young people to radical discipleship. Tearcraft begins providing dignified employment for thousands of skilled workers, selling craft in the UK.
1980s
The decade of Live Aid, war in Ethiopia, turmoil in Eastern Europe. In 1980 Tearfund sends its own medical team in to work in refugee camps in Somalia. Ten million face starvation in Ethiopia, and 1985 sees the biggest charity single and event ever: Band Aid. Tearfund starts a regular giving programme for long-term support for development programmes.
1990s
Civil unrest in the Balkans, Rwanda and Sierra Leone. In 1993 Tearfund celebrates its 25th anniversary with an award-winning edition of ‘Songs of Praise’. In 1994 Tearfund launches a massive appeal and relief response following the Rwandan genocide. Tearfund focuses on world debt as a founder-member of the Jubilee 2000 movement. Hurricane Mitch devastates Central America (1998) and Tearfund joins the Disasters Emergency Committee of relief agencies to appeal for funds.
2000s
The dawn of a new millennium sees severe floods in Africa and South Asia, while conflict intensifies hardships caused by drought in Afghanistan. The Jubilee 2000 campaign achieves qualified success. In 2003, brutal conflict erupts in Darfur. The following year, a tsunami strikes 13 countries in Asia, one of the deadliest disasters in recorded history.

In 2005, as a leading member of the Make Poverty History coalition, Tearfund sees the UK church mobilsed as never before to speak against injustice. Food crises, civil war and political oppression pose new challenges for Tearfund partners and relief teams in Africa, while development efforts continue.

Meanwhile, floods in Asia and a shattering earthquake in Haiti mark the start of a new decade, and the impact of climate change is increasingly felt by the world’s most vulnerable people…
- See more at: http://www.tearfund.org/en/about_us/history/#sthash.qw2ox0OJ.dpuf



Conversation with Nick Roberts of Tear Fund
I've been wanting to bounce some things off Nick for a few months but this was a good excuse to nip round the corner and nab some of his time. Nick works in computing and admin for Tear Fund at their London Teddington Headquarters. His son grew up with my son in the same classes at school, but since leaving for another school in Portsmouth we as parents don't get to see each other.

I wanted to explain to Nick what my interest was and to ask a few searching questions about how Tear Fund are getting on.

I reminded Nick of my background. So in writing this I will embellish this conversation with some of what I have already said to Nick over the years so readers can get a fuller picture of my intents.

Some months ago, I realised I have a very similar background to Fritz Springmeier who has , as many people know on the net, been led to expose a lot of the hidden background knowledge as to who really controls things and how things are really run  behind a kind of smokescreen of what we are led to believe are the public infrastructures.

Fritz was called into this work as a born again Christian, and has effectively put his life on the line, having been imprisoned for his exposing work. Now Fritz himself doesn't come from nowhere spiritually. Both Fritz and myself have Dads that have been quite influential in their ways in charity and humanitarian work.
My Dad with my Mum taught Kofi Annan and other key Ghanaian people in Mfantsipim , Gold Coast in the 50s. He then received an MBE from the Queen at Buckingham Palace a few years ago for decades of charity work both in Chesham area, but also in setting up Labaid (labaid.org)25 years ago in his retirement.

Fritz's Dad  set up Boys Towns in several places where underprivileged youngsters could be trained and kept off the streets in order that they be then able to take part in society. Springmeier senior elicited the support of schools like our Amersham junior School to raise funds and help with his humanitarian work.

Both Fritz and I, I suppose came to  "see through" the work our fathers were doing, as good as it was,and be forced to face the deeper issues of what really is at the root of the poverty problem. Both Fritz and I found the Lord as young men.   Fritz, quite naturally seems to be a "son of Issachar". I am not like that.That is, like Barry Smith,Chuck Missler, Grant Jeffrey and many other Christian authors, he has toured conferences warning of the Antichristian plans for world takeover. These type of folk have the abilty, unlike most of the rest of us, to see something we all think is quite innocent, and recognise it as a "cover" for something altogether different. We ofcourse, regard such people as highly paranoid, but in truth, like Dietrich Bonhoeffer's first sermon in 1933, they have this uncanny ability to pinpoint the equivalent of the rise of Hitler years before we even understand what Fluoride Toothpaste is all about!!!

Basically the humanitarian work our fathers were doing was like using a sticking plaster on a broken leg. It takes no account of man's need of personal salvation, nor at the macro level of how the world system is geared at a fundamental level according to  the claim of Psalm 2.
Why are the [a]nations in an uproar
And the peoples devising a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand
And the rulers take counsel together
Against the Lord and against His [b]Anointed, saying,
3 “Let us tear their fetters apart
And cast away their cords from us!”
Just how literal this is through the use of secret organisations infiltrating everything we regard as normal, is still absolutely unperceived by most Christians and Christian organisations.

I explained to Nick for example how as fast as Tear Fund are putting efforts into Sudan they should realise the whole thing is at least at one level a cover for these four things. Three are known in the satirical press, and the fourth is known by "sons of issachar" types. (A non born again "son of Issachar" is David Icke, but as I say, people come out of the womb with these characteristics.)
1. To create an obedient political puppet regime in Sudan out of all this conflict and destabilization
2. Sudan is just about the last bank Rothschild doesn't own. (You see now the Game Monopoly was a hidden warning)
3. Sudan and the middle east have to be made ready and compliant for the new oil pipeline feed to offset the onesided power and wealth obtained by the present Russian European pipeline. (source...English tuning client who is designing the pipeline)
4. "Whenever the Lights go out in a place...have you noticed there are less Christians when the lights are turned back on again."  Through secret manipulative organisations creating this strife, the aim all along was to destroy the lives of thousands more Christians.

All this is presented to us as natural, random foment and strife, and ofcourse charity organisations are quick to do their best to bring remedy. This is good and proper, but in general, charities, still operate in the fog of naivety that most non Christians and Christians operate in.

As an aside here, remember that in the first ever "Christian organisation", Judas, the very central Treasurer to the whole thing, turned out to be crooked, and if that wasn't enough, WAS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY TO KILL JESUS.

So what's Jesus saying in that? Well, it's not that He didn't warn us. He says in the New Testament two notable things leading up to the events at Jerusalem.
He said "If the light that is in you turns out to be Darkness, how great is the Darkness?"
Also it was written, Jesus did not join Himself to any of them for He knew what was in them. Most Christians are still working that one out.

So with this background, and also that as a Piano Business we have run our own Charity for 20 years called Christian Supplies Trust( UK reg Charity 1028509), I asked Nick what he felt was Tear Fund's aim.

He replied very definitely that unlike the many other aid organisations, Tear Fund had the love of God, and the need for personal salvation in its mix, but viewed both as integral to the other.

We then discussed for a while the nature of parachurch organisations and the aim to work closely with churches on the ground.  I was really heartened to note how much has changed in the world since I first learned of Tear Fund through Amersham Old Town Baptist Church in the 70s. The fact is, explained Nick,that it is now generally the poorest regions of the earth who have the largest active church communities.
He said this had changed completely since the early days of Tear Fund. Such churches were becoming the outreach hubs for their work.

I shared that I had observed that God keeps a complete vision in the Earth, even if at present it is a fractured view. What I mean by this is that God has placed a complete testimony of Himself in the Earth and in time to come this will be fully manifest according to Paul's words in Ephesians3.

"to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ, 9 and to [e]bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things; 10 so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places."
This manifold wisdom is being displayed today....it's just it's more hidden.

Every single "spiritual system", "proper working" is actually intact in the Body of Christ across the earth today, and also embedded right across the gamut of non Christians too, as God's people also.

Here are two areas which describe what I mean.

For the last decades churches in their immaturity have tended to squeeze out and exclude two main operations of the Spirit of God:
Evangelism
Helping Others...or Practical Love.

NOW GOD won't and doesn't stand for this , so while the church is still growing up out of its nappies according to the three stages of growth in 1 John 2, he raises up PARACHURCH operations to stand in the gap.
For evangelism read: TL OSBORNE, LUIS PALAU,MORRIS CERULLO, RHEINHARD BONNKE, ARTHUR BLESSITT,DAVID HATHAWAY many many other lesser known and completely unknown ones.
For organisations read : YWAM, OPERATION MOBILISATION , WEC(Worldwide Evangelisation Crusade) and so on.

For Aid read YWAM Mercy Ministries, OM, Tear Fund, Oasis Trust and on and on.

Rightfully Nick was sharing that more and more, the local churches were picking up the ball all over the world, and that Tear Fund were increasingly dovetailing their activities into these local hubs.

So then I thought I'd flat out present my case for the Cambodian trip to Nick in terms that readers of this blog will understand. Namely that I am anxious to view their operation with third level eyes. How does aid work in third level Christianity? We have the Acts model ofcourse, and in fact in the end the early church had to raise up some hedges around the apostles who were beginning to have all their time consumed in aid administration, for which reason the Spirit indicated they should appoint Stephen, leaving themselves free to devote themselves to imparting Word.
Notice, in the Bible, unlike many of today's quiet but helpful aid givers, Acts shows us that Stephen was well able to deliver HIGH VOLTAGE WORD when called upon....and it so moved the hearers, that those with hard hearts immediately took up stones.

I described today's "model" or "system" for aid work was based around the current idea of a church.
So pretty soon networks of pretty uninfiltratable churches are set up where as St Paul described of the immature Corinthians...I am of Apollos, Peter or Paul etc.

The "product" we are selling for nothing (Isaiah 55) is more than forgiveness for sins, and being born again.
It is more than receiving an infilling of the Spirit, where we run pretty much the same pastor pyramid as before, but now on Spirit steroids.
No, the product in Acts was more like the Parable of the Virgins....not just immediate oil...but oil you've been down the shops for. NOT by DOING THINGS to GAIN something....ie...a WORKS thing.
Like Galatians...you begin in the Spirit but you now seek to finish in the flesh according to fleshly effort.

How much of the drive for charity and Aid work is coming out of this pressure? Because we haven't been down the Spirit supply house with the whole of our being, getting the whole of us looked at under the Spirit microscope....not by our effort, but as the Spirit leads us.

The product that we have comes up with the GOODS.
Abraham had to believe against belief for Isaac. Nothing else would do. For in Isaac were all his descendants named. Isaac himself was the self reproducing seed.

Because churches are little more than human fabrications, human nissan huts made allbeit of living Spirit filled Christians...they don't produce after their own kind, and we are forced to bolster our efforts with more systems. But the gospel works....
One Sergei Kourdakov (early Russian emigre early 70s)
One Watchman Nee
One Smith Wigglesworth
One Rheinhard Bonnke
One Morris Cerullo
One Corrie Ten Boom
One Mother Basilea Schlink
One pastor Wurmbrand and so on

In other words just one mature third level Father stage (1 John 2) Christian is all a locality needs to come alive in God.

I felt to share with Nick again how we come into faith. Faith for the stupidly big things.See, it's not our faith. It's the faith of the Son of God. (Literal wording in Greek of Galations 2:20)
Faith , Romans 10:17 says, comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Faith doesn't come DIRECT. It's two stage.
Access to the Word of God creates not natural hearing with two flappy natural ears...but it creates a spiritual hearing...it digs out a cavity within us which has this new capacity to hear the Son of God direct. His own faith gives us the stupid drive to believe for unheard of things
like Noah, for a boat, when it had never even rained and there weren't any seas....
like Abraham for sons that would bless the whole earth etc etc.

I reminded Nick of how both Rheinhard Bonnke and Bryn Jones had shared a room at Rees Howells Bible College. Bonnke most people still know of, Bryn was used to raise up nearly half the network of current new churches in the UK in the 70s, and Rees Howells was in Spirit training for decades to smash all 3 Dictators in the War by the Word of faith pronounced "foolishly" 3 years before the end of the War, and which the newspapers went to town on.

What is the likelihood that such a three should be in so great proximity? Very high!! because Jesus says where the dead body is...look at all the carrion circling suddenly? It's instinct.

And where the Death and resurrection of the Body of Jesus is rightfully celebrated in a genuine Spirit way, so the same thing happens over and over....all sort of Divine connection and propagation.

Just as in the natural a huge percentage of fruitfulness and food for the nations comes from the seemingly random and rather erratic form of propagation  by pollination and bees...so it is in the Spirit.

So what is the Tear Fund Plan? I plan to probe them.Do charities share all their skills, their knowhow in development basics? The pitfalls. The best equipment?


Nick and I didn't say today what I have begun sharing in the past. I am fascinated by developments in science and how these things can help. Both my parents were physics teachers.
I am fascinated by futurist podcasts. Using www.player.fm to access The Future and You podcast with Stephen Ewin Cobb.
The wealth of Development Knowledge that even comes through business programmes which are also freely available podcasts....In Business with Peter Day on Radio 4.
I have around 1400 mainly Christian people on Facebook who all share the latest buzz on things. Ofcourse some is not so useful, but so much is incredibly useful. All my blog posts are broadcast to all these folk should they choose to read them, and my blog itself coincidentally has a current average of 14,000 hits per month.
How about the Water Filtration Bag charity?
http://www.purehydration.com/natural-disaster-charity-receives-welcome-boost-with-water-purification-bags/#.UshwR3DYQ7I

In America, as Patriots seem to be preparing for a coming clash over their right to have weapons...(something UK people cannot get their head round)....there are many spinoffs which relate directly to Survivalist Issues worldwide.
For example, two things came my way on Facebook. Both of which were cheap ways of creating what would cost thousands if bought from commercial companies.

DIY build instructions for solar panel installations costing only a few hundred. How that would change things in a settlement in Africa!!!
DIY build instructions for creating hydroponic/aquaponic installations. These are the newly extrapolated systems whereby people can create sealed unit mini eco systems as they have developed for use in spaceships and on other planets. Using fish, which poo,which fertilise all the plants you'd ever need to eat, which oxygenate the air, which produces the water cycle which returns to the pond for the fish to swim in.
This breeds fish for protein and all the fresh vegatation for carbs and vegetables for vitamins. PURE GENIUS and you only add 10% or 20% of water to top up every so often. That beats all the long journeys made to wells in Africa eh?  This is MAGIC stuff.

When I was in Kenya in 86, I was at a youth conference (not a speaker, but an observer) I got to know a Finnish thirdleveller. He was quite apostolic and came out of the Finnish apostolic tradition I believe...but in those still early days of Spirit filled Christianity in Kenya, I noted how the Holy Spirit had snuck him in as a missionary, but fully funded as a Finnish Water Development expert. Subconsciously I had learned a pattern here, of how God can use a tentmaking skill, particularly in the developing World, of Knowhow in Practical development skilling.

Revelation 12 :13  and Development Aid13 And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child.
This is a strange verse which the Holy Spirit continues to unpack, but one of the meanings best describes what Nick and I were talking about. You see as fast as Christians come up with God solutions by faith....a kind of new manchild....new manifestation of  Jesus in some new helpful form to give succour and help and deliver folk....at the point of birth the devil is there to try and snatch the whole system.

He's not a creator. He's a thief. He steals God systems. He tries to snatch them to make them his own.
This is incredibly relevant to the work of God in all its forms.

We see this process again in the parable of the Farmer, where the enemy comes and floods his field with bad seed no sooner than good seed has been sown. All this is actually the wisdom of God. but that doesn't make it less dangerous. God USES this to make His Seed strong....but that doesn't mean people DON'T DIE en route. Sergei Kourdakov may have escaped Russia in 72, but as he warned us, that didn't mean the KGB weren't still after him. He was "suicided" it is now believed a few months later in Canada.

We have already seen how the devil used "his agent" in Judas among Jesus and his band.
We've seen how he used the love of the saints in Acts to set up a kind of dependency in the people which began to put huge strain on the saints and their supply. This was an early example of dependency culture.

But what about schools and hospitals? The devil has stolen the whole hospital system and made it his field of commerce instead of compassion.
He stole education from the early monks. Oxford , Cambridge and Harvard itself which was actually evangelical...all stolen to purvey the false bubble of the secular and atheist viewpoint.

He stole the Methodist Class system and made it Communist cells, and Freemasonry and secret society structures.

He stole Jesuitry and made it a force for evil. The templars and the crusades were total manipulation to sellChristianity down the river.
He stole the Jewish "power to make wealth" and is holding the whole earth to ransom by those who "say they are Jews but are not".
He stole the Boys brigade, which itself was a God system in answer to the extremes of city poverty and poor parenting, and using Baden Powell via Kitchener (both pedophiles; Queen Victoria would not let Baden Powell back in England while she was alive) and scouting was formed in direct opposition to the evangelical drive in Boys Brigade.
He stole both Jewish and Christian seminaries. He positioned his men as double dealers in both seminaries. The Jews were told to forget the Torah and learn the Talmud. Christians were taught higher criticism.

Early missionaries to Africa happened to report gold. Satan raised up slavery in those precise places.

In the precise areas that Paul raised up churches, Satan fought long and hard that nobody should learn of his legacy. Some of the last of the line were the Armenians who were slaughtered in 1915.

All unknown in our modern "random" secular story of history, the real story of the Balkans is one of peoples fleeing Catholic control systems....even defecting to Moslem areas rather than defer.

Christian movements like Wesleyanism which brought national fruit were targeted so heavily that when I was brought up, Methodism was possibly one of the most liberal denominations. Staggeringly, Baptists in the UK were more open to the current move of the Spirit than Pentecostals themselves were. The devil hit Wales hard in the aftermath of the Revival.

The Northern and Southern Ireland struggles were largely orchestrated by their Lodges, which were both controlled by the same Luciferian rulers, so when Clinton's time to call a halt in the 90s, all the pyramid chiefs had to say was "Stop" and both sides miraculously stopped fighting. This was around the time of the early announcement in 1991 of the New World Order by Bush.

All Christian Development Agencies suffer the same attacks. Where goodness and Good seed is preached, a Dragon is poised to try and pounce on the seed. We are truly in a spiritual war, but Springmeier has woken us up to the fact that it isn't quite as purely spiritual as we thought.

Cambodia was one such pawn in the middle.

Pol Pot,Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Hitler all had pretty much the same modus operandi.
They all received their training in Terror and Mind Control in Europe, which is why the patterns in their control techniques are pretty identical the deeper you look.

The aim of  pushing into nations is always the same, from the French Revolution onwards.

1. To destabilise
2. To terrorise
3. For monetary gain by usurping a nation's resources and from weapons and armaments
4. To destroy faith in God and make God look an impotent laughing stock
5. That the many millions who die be a blood sacrifice to their dear Satan.

St Paul and Peter stated some surprising things.
Paul expected the Corinthians to grow up and RULE as if this was normal...Would that you were Kings (In your area)
Peter in 1 Peter2:12 writes  having your behaviour among the nations right, that in that which they speak against you as evil-doers, of the good works having beheld, they may glorify God in a day of inspection. NASB writes visitation.
so revival or visitation is pretty much inevitable????!!!

Ed Miller by the Spirit orchestrated 5 revivals every decade from the 1950s onwards. Now others speak of "revival meetings" and every so often one of these may actually be one....but Ed Miller meant a revival in the sense of the spontaneous combustion of Wales or the Hebrides or Indonesia.

In 1986 God showed me a picture of some natives gazing skyward at a big white metallic bird and asked me "What's the difference between the natives' observation of a plane and of those in say America?"
I answered, " About 80 years'  knowhow."
"Exactly. At the moment you look skyward in the same way regarding revival, but I am going to teach you the ways of continuous revival."

And beginning with Bonnke perhaps, and then the 90s national and continental intercession, and prayer warfare over cities, God has in fact been opening a door. But some of the rest is in the three levels of the gospel in 1 John 2 that is not yet common knowledge.

Other strategies that none of us could foresee in 1972 when I was converted
was sattellite TV
and this very internet, including blogging and Facebook and Twitter.

The Ephesians Church formula is this
and it applies equally to imparting Christ to each other as it does of practical help and supply, and if that was really so in Tear Fund, and not just a stated policy to impress people, then I'd certainly have fun reporting any signs of that on this blog.....

anyhow the formula we have been learning together on Facebook....

The Formula
14 [g]As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness [h]indeceitful scheming; 15 but [i]speaking the truth in love, [j]we are to grow up in all aspectsinto Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together [k]by what every joint supplies, according to the [l]proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.

• not children anymore.....not 1st and 2nd levellers which currently most Christians are

• not carried around by this years' latest trend...why...because we have our own "spiritual hearing unit fully installed"

• how? by speaking truth to each other. Some is good nice stuff about being raised with Christ...other truth is OUCH truth about where I am still squiffy in my "seeing"

• growing up in all aspects...not just SOME...

• into who? the Pyramid apostle head?(I don't believe in human pyramids) Terry Virgo? Hillsongs Brian Houston? No....Jesus Himself. And if it is genuine Jesus stuff it has to be my Jesus, your Jesus, his Jesus and her Jesus...the same Jesus. You can't have a personal Jesus, who is just your own personal imagining.

• the body is only held together by Christ stuff which each and every joint supplies...but it says they will only supply Christ stuff when each joint is working properly....and you can only be working properly when you are really spontaneously you...and not you pretending to be Billy Graham or Mother Teresa...it has to be Jesus-You as in Galatians 2:20.

• Working properly in a lot of missionary sermons is a euphemism for applying loads of pressure about what we OUGHT to be doing....helping people, evangelising people,giving more money.Working properly in the New Testament, simply means...functioning properly. You can't function properly until you know as consciousness from the inside of you, that you are Christ as you, in your form. You can't be Jesus Christ of Nazareth, because His bodily form has transferred to the right hand of God, but His very same life lives in you as you, in your personality in your body, as the unique creation that He made you. When you know that, rivers of Living Water flow from you because they are just His Life doing what comes natural. It's very like riding a bike or speaking in tongues. You can think about the theory of bike riding all week long...but you won't get the feel of balance until you do it. You can pray all you like for the gift of tongues but nothing happens until those lips open.

Finally a note for Tear Fund themselves in answer to their own specific questionTell us why you want to accept this challenge and help us hit the target in a blog post, a video, audio, and anything else you can think of?
My strength has been in communicating all over the world to a people at a particular stage of their Christian walk, and wondering as all the supports are being taken away, what on earth is God doing.
If you follow the Index at the bottom of the blog to Elaine Waterfield or Nya Suna you will see somebody who , if I was an organisation, might say..."we have sent her out"...but it was the Spirit who has sent her out, and God who keeps her alive. If I say lots of support has come through me and my friends of the blog, I'd be speaking untruth....but she is still alive, the testimonies show how much she has achieved as just one person doing what God says, and at least some of the bigger donations have come through exposure on my blog.

I'm up for the challenge of raising 60 people to donate a small regular sum....but my factfinding mission to Cambodia would be nothing less than trying to assemble some ideas for turning round situations all over the world. In fact I really like the thought that came today, which is so absurd, it could be God.

Which is  BEGIN by TURNING the poorest nation on earth round, just to show what God can do:
BURKINA FASO! I'm not sure it is the poorest now, since one of our friends found gold there and has begun setting up mines. Sadly, this is probably yet more exploitation by white folk. I'm not interested in that pattern at all.

Deification is NOT NEW - Joseph Black

Deification: Did the Early Church Teach That Christians Would Become God?

by Joseph Black on Sunday, 17 June 2012 at 19:22 ·

I appreciate and love the fact that one of only few denominations in America, that I know of, have stuck with at least a partial view pointing to the full statement of the Gospel. There may be some more, like the Quakers who teach the light of God in every man. So, there are those in America who are not restricted to the false gospel "of man is lesser then the God who made them." and is only a sinner and will always be.. always subordinate to this lesser position.separated as humanity from God. ( THE LIE).I remind YOU of this Scripture:
Philippians 2:4-6
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

4 each not to your own look ye, but each also to the things of others.
5 For, let this mind be in you that [is] also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not robbery to be equal to God,So, I share this article with you, may your heart and mind be ONE!
Deification: Did the Early Church Teach That Christians Would Become God?
The doctrine that many Protestants seem to indicate identifies a group as a "cult" is the teaching that Christians are to become deified. Or worded another way, Christians are to become God.
Although this belief is normally considered to be "unorthodox" and outside of "mainstream Christianity", it probably should be pointed out that the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches it, so the term "unorthodox" seems not to fit.
The reality is that both the Bible and writings of early professors of Christ demonstrate that the idea that Jesus became human so that humans could become part of the family of God is not new nor "unorthodox". However, since most who claim to be Christian are not familiar with most of the early writings, they simply do not realize that deification is not an "unorthodox" view and it was held by many.
This brief article will attempt to provide documented proof that this deification is both biblical and historical.
Does the Bible Teach That Humans Will Become Part of the Family of God?
Jesus taught deification:

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, "You are gods" '? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'? (John 10:34-36, NKJV throughout except if otherwise noted).

And this was not only referring to His deification as He quoted from Psalm 82:6 which also is in the plural:

I said, "You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High..." (Psalm 82:6).

The Apostle Paul specifically taught "we have the mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16)--we do and strive to have that more. Paul also wrote that Jesus was to be the firstborn of many brethren:

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren (Romans 8:29).

If God is our Father, we are to be "conformed to the image of His Son", Jesus is God, Jesus is our brother, and are we not to be in the family of God and truly be deified?
Notice what happened with Jesus is supposed to happen to us:

20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming (1 Corinthians 15:20-23).
Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures (James 1:18).
These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb (Revelation 14:4).

For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches (Romans 11:16).

Christians are to be firstfruits like Christ. As a firstfruit, Christ is divine.
Notice that the Bible does teach that there is a whole family which is named after God the Father, and that we are to know the love of Christ so that we can truly have the fullness of God:

For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height-- to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God (Ephesians 3:14-19).

The Apostle Paul also taught:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together (Romans 8:16-17, KJV).
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. (2 Corinthians 3:17-18)
18 'I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty." (2 Corinthians 6:18)
Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world (Philippians 2:14-15).

Notice that "the children of God" are to be "glorified together" with Christ as "joint-heirs" and are to be transformed into the same image as God. And God wil be a Father to His sons and daughters.
The Apostle John taught:

But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name (John 1:12).
Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, NOW we are children of God (1 John 3:1-2a).

The children of people are people, the children of cows are cows. What are the children of God?
The Apostle Peter taught deification:

His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:3-4).

Are not those that are "partakers of the divine nature" somehow deified?
Do the Books of Genesis and Revelation Support the Idea of Deification?
Did the Bible teach that humans were to be God from the beginning? What about at the end?
Scripture is clear that from the beginning God made humans in the image and likeness of God. Notice:

Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth" (Genesis 1:26-27).

What is man? Notice what the Psalms teach:

What is man that You are mindful of him,
And the son of man that You visit him?
For You have made him a little lower than the angels,
And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet (Psalm 8:4-6).

Thus humans were made to have all things under their subjection.
Also notice what the Book of Hebrews teaches about the above passage in Psalm 8:

For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both He who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, saying:

"I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You." And again:
"I will put My trust in Him."
And again:
"Here am I and the children whom God has given Me."

Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham (Hebrews 2:8-16).

Thus the Bible clearly teaches that God made humans to be in the image of God and rule over all things, that this has not yet happened, but because of Jesus becoming human, that humans will be God's children and that all things will be subject to them.
Notice that the Apostle Paul confirmed this:

This is a faithful saying:

For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him.
If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him (2 Timothy 2:11-12).

This rulership is also discussed in the Book of Revelation:

And we shall reign on the earth (Revelation 5:10).

Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years (Revelation 20:6).
And they shall reign forever and ever. Then he said to me, "These words are faithful and true" (Revelation 22:5-6).

Thus the idea of being deified and reigning with Christ is taught throughout the Bible.
Do Second Century Writings Show That Christians Believed They Would Become God?
In the early second century, Ignatius of Antioch wrote:

For it is not my desire to act towards you as a man-pleaser, but as pleasing God, even as also you please Him. For neither shall I ever have such [another] opportunity of attaining to God...It is good to set from the world unto God, that I may rise again to Him...Suffer me to become food for the wild beasts, through whose instrumentality it will be granted me to attain to God (Ignatius. Letter to the Romans, Chapters 2,4).
He is the door of the Father, by which enter in Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the prophets, and the apostles, and the Church. All these have for their object the attaining to the unity of God (Ignatius. Letter to the Romans, Chapter 9).

Polycarp of Smyrna, who knew Ignatius, wrote:

But He who raised Him up from the dead will raise up us also, if we do His will, and walk in His commandments, and love what He loved, keeping ourselves from all unrighteousness, covetousness, love of money, evil speaking, falsewitness; "not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing," or blow for blow, or cursing for cursing, but being mindful of what the Lord...may He bestow on you a lot and portion among His saints, and on us with you, and on all that are under heaven, who shall believe in our Lord and God Jesus Christ, and in His Father, who raised Him from the dead (Polycarp's Letter to the Philippians. Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1 as edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Sections 2,12).

Polycarp is teaching that what happened to Jesus will also happen to true Christians. And that is also what New Testament writers taught.
Theophilus of Antioch also taught the humans were to become God, though several passages need to be looked at to make this clear:

In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are types of the threes of God, and His Word, and His wisdom. And the fourth is the type of man, who needs light, that so there may be God, the Word, wisdom, man (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book 2, Chapter XV. Translated by Bob Thiel).

(Note the above is often mistranslated, for details see the article Theophilus of Antioch).
What Theophilus is teaching is that now man is a fourth, but will become part of God, the third part, when humans become God's offspring. And that he seems to see this as the wisdom of God's plan.
Lest anyone suggest that I am reading something into Theophilus that he does not mean (and since he often writes poetically, he is a bit hard to follow), he verifies what I concluded when he wrote:

...if I call Him Mind, I speak but of His wisdom; if I say He is Spirit, I speak of His breath; if I call Him Wisdom, I speak of His offspring (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book 1, Chapter III. Translated by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).
For if He had made him immortal from the beginning, He would have made him God...so that if he should incline to the things of immortality, keeping the commandment of God, he should receive as reward from Him immortality, and should become God...For God has given us a law and holy commandments; and every one who keeps these can be saved, and, obtaining the resurrection, can inherit incorruption (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book 2, Chapter XXVII. Translated by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).

Theophilus teaches that we are to be God's offspring and become God. We are to be God in the family of God.
Do Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox Writings Show That the Belief in Deification Was a Widespread Belief?
It is also true that some of those that we in the Living Church of God consider to have been heretics (even though most quoted in this section are considered to have been saints by the Roman Catholic and/or Eastern Orthodox churches), also had some understanding that Christians were to become God. Several will be quoted in this section.
Although he held to heretical beliefs, Irenaeus (who claimed to have known Polycarp) understood that while humans were not God now, nor immortal now, that they would be later:

...there is none other called God by the Scriptures except the Father of all, and the Son, and those who possess the adoption (Irenaeus. Adversus haereses, Book IV, Preface, Verse 4. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).
For we cast blame upon Him, because we have not been made gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length gods; although God has adopted this course out of His pure benevolence, that no one may impute to Him invidiousness or grudgingness. He declares, "I have said, You are gods; and you are all sons of the Highest." But since we could not sustain the power of divinity, He adds, "But you shall die like men," setting forth both truths—the kindness of His free gift, and our weakness, and also that we were possessed of power over ourselves. For after His great kindness He graciously conferred good [upon us], and made men like to Himself, [that is] in their own power; while at the same time by His prescience He knew the infirmity of human beings, and the consequences which would flow from it; but through [His] love and [His] power, He shall overcome the substance of created nature. For it was necessary, at first, that nature should be exhibited; then, after that, that what was mortal should be conquered and swallowed up by immortality (Irenaeus. Adversus Haereses (Book IV, Chapter 38, Verse 4).

Like Irenaeus and Polycarp, Hippolytus of Rome was also some type of a binitarian and also taught humans would become God. Hippolytus, in the early third century, wrote:

And you shall receive the kingdom of heaven, you who, while you sojourned in this life, knew the Celestial King. And you shall be a companion of the Deity, and a co-heir with Christ, no longer enslaved by lusts or passions, and never again wasted by disease. For you have become God...
And God called man His likeness from the beginning, and has evinced in a figure His love towards you. And provided you obey His solemn injunctions, and becomest a faithful follower of Him who is good, you shall resemble Him, inasmuch as you shall have honour conferred upon you by Him. For the Deity, (by condescension,) does not diminish anything of the divinity of His divine perfection; having made you even God unto His glory! (Hippolytus. Refutation of All Heresies (Book X, Chapter 30) Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).
The Father of immortality sent the immortal Son and Word into the world, who came to man in order to wash him with water and the Spirit; and He, begetting us again to incorruption of soul and body, breathed into us the breath (spirit) of life, and endued us with an incorruptible panoply. If, therefore, man has become immortal, he will also be God. And if he is made God by water and the Holy Spirit after the regeneration of the layer he is found to be also joint-heir with Christ after the resurrection from the dead (Hippolytus. The Discourse on the Holy Theophany, Chapter 8. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

Clement of Alexandria (mid-late second century) wrote:

And now the Word Himself clearly speaks to you, shaming your unbelief; yea, I say, the Word of God became man, that you may learn from man how man may become God (Clement of Alexandria . Exhortation to the Heathen (Chapter 1). Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

In the early third century, Origen of Alexandria wrote:

But both Jesus Himself and His disciples desired that His followers should believe not merely in His Godhead and miracles, as if He had not also been a partaker of human nature, and had assumed the human flesh which "lusts against the Spirit;" but they saw also that the power which had descended into human nature, and into the midst of human miseries, and which had assumed a human soul and body, contributed through faith, along with its divine elements, to the salvation of believers, when they see that from Him there began the union of the divine with the human nature, in order that the human, by communion with the divine, might rise to be divine, not in Jesus alone, but in all those who not only believe, but enter upon the life which Jesus taught, and which elevates to friendship with God and communion with Him every one who lives according to the precepts of Jesus (Origen. Contra Celsus, Book III, Chapter 28. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

Thus, Origen is teaching that Christians are to rise to be divine, to become God.
In the 4th century, Ambrose of Milan taught:

Then a Virgin conceived, and the Word became flesh that flesh might become God (Ambrose of Milan. Concerning Virginity (Book I, Chapter 11). Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

In the late 4th century, John Chrysostom wrote:

...the man can become God, and a child of God. For we read, "I have said, You are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High" (John Chrysostom. Homily 32 on the Acts of the Apostles. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

The 5th century Bishop Ibas of Edessa allegedly taught:

I do not envy Christ His becoming God, for I can become God no less than He (Labourt J. Transcribed by John Fobian. Ibas. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VII. Published 1910. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Nihil Obstat, June 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).

In the 13th/14th century, notice what the following from a famous German Dominican theologian Meister Eckhardt (c. 1260–c. 1328):

Meister Eckhardt said that in union with God we become God (Fanning S. Mystics of the Christian Tradition. Routeldge, New York. 2001, reprinted 2006, p. 219).

In the 16th century, notice what even Martin Luther taught:

“For the Word became flesh in order that the flesh might become Word. That is, God becomes man in order that man might become God (On the Word Became Flesh Martin Luther, 1483-1546 From: Sermo Lutheri in natali Christi, [December 25, 1514]) _D. Martin Luthers Werke. Kritische Gesammtausgabe_ (Weimar: Hermann Boehlau, 1883) Vol. 1, p. 28).

In the 20th century, Pope Paul VI taught:

My brothers, do you understand the Grace of God our Head? Stand in admiration, rejoice; we have become Christ. For if He is the Head, we are the members; He and we are the complete Man . . . therefore, the fullness of Christ is constituted by the Head and Members Ecclesiam Suam Encyclical Letter on the Ways in which the Church Must Carry Out its Mission in the Contemporary World His Holiness Pope Paul VI, Section 35. Transcribed work by Bob Van Cleef. Promulgated on August 6, 1964. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

And while "some believe" we have not yet "become Christ", even the late Pope John Paul II taught:

In order for man to become God, the Word took on humanity (Joannes Paulus II. Orientale Lumen: Apostolic Letter on the Eastern Churches His Holiness Pope John Paul II, Section 15. Promulgated on May 2, 1995. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).

In 1988, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) taught:

Man can become God, not by making himself God, but by allowing himself to be made 'Son'. (Ratzinger J. Eschatology: Death and Eternal Life. 1988. Cited in Kurz W. What Does the Bible Say About End Times? A Catholic View. Nihil Obstat: H. Kistner. Imprimi Potest: F. Link. Imprimatur + C. Moeddel, July 19, 2004. St. Anthony Messenger Press, 2004, p. 89)

Near the end of the 20th century, Orthodox bishop Timothy Ware wrote:

Such, according to the teaching of the Orthodox Church, is the final goal at which every Christian must attain: to become god, to obtain theosis, 'deification' or 'divinization'. For Orthodoxy our salvation and redemption mean our deification...deification is not something reserved for a select few initiates, but is something intended for all alike. The Orthodox Church believes this is the normal goal of every Christian without exception. Certainly we shall only be deified on the Last Day; but for each of us the process of divinization must begin here and now in this present life" (Ware, T. The Orthodox Church. Penguin Books, London, 1997, p.231,236).

In the 21st century, the Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople taught:

The patriarch said that at the center of their pastoral work was a recognition that humanity is "called to know and to become God," the call to holiness which the Orthodox term "deification." (Pope, Orthodox patriarch meet privately, pray together.CNS News - March 6, 2008. http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801277.htm).

Hence the idea that Christians are to be deified like Christ is not some weird new cultic idea--it is an idea that has been held by many throughout the centuries.
Why Did God Make Humans According to the Living Church of God?
Herbert W. Armstrong wrote,

WHY did the Creator God put MAN on the earth? For God's ultimate supreme purpose of reproducing himself--of recreating himself, as it were, by the supreme objective of creating the righteous divine character ultimately in millions unnumbered begotten and born children who shall become God beings, members of the God family. Man was to improve the physical earth as God gave it to him, finishing its creation (which sinning angels had deliberately refused to do) and, in so doing, to RESTORE the GOVERNMENT OF GOD, with God's WAY of life; and further, in this very process FINISHING THE CREATION OF MAN by the development of God's holy, righteous CHARACTER, with man's own assent. Once this perfect and righteous character is instilled in man, and man converted from mortal flesh to immortal spirit, then is to come the INCREDIBLE HUMAN POTENTIAL--man being BORN INTO the divine FAMILY of God, restoring the government of God to the earth, and then participating in the completion of the CREATION over the entire endless expanse of the UNIVERSE! That incredible potential of man will be fully explained in the pages that follow in this volume. God shall have reproduced HIMSELF untold millions of times over! So, on the sixth day of that re-creation week, God (Elohim) said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (Gen. 1:26). Man was made to have (with his assent) a special relationship with his Maker! He was made in the form and shape of God. He was given a spirit (essence in form) to make the relationship possible (ibid).

Notice what the Living Church of God specifically teaches:

How can you not be filled with ALL of the 'fullness of God' and not be God?" "This is the final fulfillment of the Gospel of Jesus Christ--the ultimate Good News--that man can be born into the God Kingdom, the God-level of existence" (Meredith, Roderick C. Your Ultimate Destiny. Booklet. LCG, 1996; p:33)
...man becoming God...is an awesome event...We will be part of the Family of God (Meredith R.C. Christ and the Passover Sermon. Charlotte, North Carolina, 20110219).
God’s purpose is that He is reproducing Himself and that those converted, ultimately, become full members of the Family of God, under the authority of the Father and the Son (1 John 3:1-3). They will share divine glory in the resurrection (Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs. LCG, 2004).
God is reproducing Himself...we will not be a lessor form of existence...He put His very divine nature in us...in the process of reproducing Himself...that is why we are alive. That is the ultimate purpose of our existence (Meredith R.C. Last Great Day Sermon. Clearwater, Florida, 20051025).
We can be changed into--actually born--of spirit as a literal son of God! God is reproducing Himself! He, the Creator and Ruler of the universe, is begetting human beings through His Spirit to be born as His sons--to be in His family and inherit eternal life (Meredith RC. How to Know God. Tomorrow's World Magazine, September-October 2007, p. 7).
We should never forget that God has called us to become His full sons and daughters, to share His level of existence with us for all eternity. Just as these characteristics— amazing power, access to all of the universe and perception of all things—apply to Christ and the Father now, they one day will apply to us! (Smith, Wallace. God and the "Three 'O's. Living Church News, Sep-Dec 2007, pp. 10-12,20.)
Our potential...we will be God...We have a lot to be thankful for...When He is done we will be exactly like Him (Way H. Being Thankful. LCG Sermon, SLO County, 12/01/07).
We teach...man becoming God...The ultimate human potential is to be in God's family (Meredith RC. Are You a Conquered Christian? LCG Sermon, Charlotte (NC), 07/11/09).
Revelation {3:9} They will worship us when we are gods--when we are in God's family (Meredith RC. Where we have been, where we are going. LCG Sermon, Charlotte (NC), 12/26/09).
Genesis 1...We are to be part of Elohim....Malachi 2...He seeks godly offspring (Lowe J. Dating and Marriage. LCG Sermon, Panama City (FL), 09/29/10).
We are to be resurrected, fully God, in the Family of God (Bardo R. Seeds of Faith. LCG Sermon, Glenwood Springs (CO), 10/16/11).
We are made in the image of God...God is, in fact, reproducing Himself...We will be like He is someday (Meredith RC. Last Great Day Message. LCG Sermon, played 10/20/11).

God is reproducing Himself to have additional members of His family, as "He seeks godly offspring" (Malachi 2:15). You can be part of it!
We are to be children of God. The Bible teaches that repeatedly. By being God's children, we are clearly to be part of God's family. That is why God made humans!
Deification is the destiny of men and women (some additional details are in the article The Cherished Christian Woman: Duty and destiny.
Concluding Comments on Deification
The Bible makes it clear that God's plan included making humans in the image of God and that ultimately all would be put under the control of deified humans.
But it needs to be pointed out that just as the Son is subject to the Father, Christians will not be above either the Father or the Son. The Father is greater than the Son (John 14:28) and both will always be greater than spirit-born Christians. Also, while God is eternal (Deuteronomy 33:27), all humans have had a beginning and thus will always have been around for a finite time. Thus, deification does not mean that Christians will be equal to God, but will be His true sons and daughters (without gender issues).
The Bible teaches this from Genesis through Revelation if one will simply believe what the Bible is actually teaching. And those who professed Christ in the early centuries after His resurrection also taught that.
And the Living Church of God teaches that today. The view that Jesus became human so that humans could be in the family of God is not a cultic view, but is a biblical and historical one.That was the view of one.. the "Living Church of God"... called a cult by many..  but I am not a member of them, and never have been and this is the first time, I have read anything written that they may have written,  but they had the closest to the truth, that I have seen within the "church" context for a time on this. Except like many they are still afraid to go one more step over the line of FEAR, to know Paul's admonition I gave in Phillipians 2:4-6We that are professing that "WE ARE THE CHRIST," are considered heretics by most, but we are only declaringbearing THE TRUTH of what GOD SAYS ABOUT US, not what MAN's judgments may say about them or others.. Now that I know WHO I AM and WHO YOU ARE... we ARE HUMBLED BY SO GREAT A LOVE AS THIS:
John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.Now for the rest of the verse in Phillipians... it's time.. now that you have been awakened to THE TRUTH of YOU AND OTHERS:
7 but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men having been made,
8 and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself, having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross,
9 wherefore, also, God did highly exalt him, and gave to him a name that [is] above every name,
10 that in the name of Jesus every knee may bow -- of heavenlies, and earthlies, and what are under the earth --
11 and every tongue may confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 So that, my beloved, as ye always obey, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, with fear and trembling your own salvation work out,
13 for God it is who is working in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
14 All things do without murmurings and reasonings,
15 that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God, unblemished in the midst of a generation crooked and perverse, among whom ye do appear as luminaries in the world,

LOVE BEGAT LOVE and LOVE BEGETS LOVE! BE LOVE...   What man thinks is of importance, God disdains.. RELIGION IS NOT YOUR CALLING!  UNION WITH CHRIST IS!
I Corinthians 2:11-1611 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 NOW WE HAVE RECEIVED (past tense), not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we MIGHT KNOW THE THINGS THAT ARE FREELY GIVEN TO US IN GOD.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, BUT which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? BUT WE HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST.
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Chris Welch Writes
We don't "become God"
We are at all times a manifestation in outer form of His very life.

Godliness...is just being conformed to this One Central Life that is going on continually in the Universe. We cannot become God, and we cannot become godlike...this was the devil's first lie.

It IS GOD'S ACTUAL LIFE that we share...the mystery of how it operates if followed to the nth degree is described in fairy tales like Cinderella, and  the Snow Queen.....the latter ofcourse being a tale of how we can have God's life subverted through lies.

The Two Generations

Slow motion replay:Andy Roddick

I rarely do a repost on here but this is the bottom section of the healing post "Carol Lucas Winkler,Bill....." from the other day. This was commented on when it was rerun in Facebook.


The Two Generations
What this post has turned up is the reality of the two generations that are currently at large in the church. Both spiritual.
You remember that I have previously highlighted Psalm 45:16
In place of your fathers will be your sons;
You shall make them princes in all the earth.
I've had more light also on an a capella song I was given when I recorded my double CD Early Harvest in 1990.
I will share what I have seen, then share the short track.
The Bible says Before the Day of the Lord Comes he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. Malachi 4:6, and in Luke 1 :17
And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous--to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."(John the Baptist's call)
It also says in Ephesians Chapter 3
For this reason I kneel before the Father, ¹⁵ from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. ¹⁶ I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, ¹⁷ so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.

There is a dynamic tension in tuning the 12 strings of a piano, or more precisely, exactly detuning each of the 12 strings so they play in every key. Apart from Octaves, everything else on a piano is tuned so that it is just "out". Too much out, and people will wince, too much "in", and when you come to play in certain keys people will also wince.
There is a tension in the work of God, in the doctrines of God, in people's personalities, that is there in the Holy Spirit, but as every really good gathering of the saints shows, God Himself fills in the gaps and smoothes over the seeming incompatibilities.He joins our dots.

Until this last century , men had pretty much everything their own way. Women and children were subjugated to them. And this seemed to work fine as long as women and children did exactly that.
However, God's plan was never supporting this.
God's heart is more along the lines of this phrase:
....Christ. ¹⁶ From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.Ephesians 4:16

God never planned for women not to function fully
God never planned for children not to function fully
God never planned for every single member of the Body of Christ regardless of maturity not to function fully

Part of the sickness we inherited at the fall was fatherlessness. This means both absenteeism. But also where Fathers do not function as "enabling figures to others."
Part of the "Fathers Blessing" which a lot of people erroneously named the Toronto Blessing was to quicken the reality of Ephesians 3 :14 the name/character and function of father is the Blueprint of how heaven runs. We are connected to God the Father. Every family derives its form from this blueprint.
A ripped, torn up blueprint, shatters the internal image, the internal identity of the family individually and as a unit.Paul Anderson Walsh said about this subject..."That's all there is...connection." There are conditions like Aspergers which make this very difficult, but as Daniel Yordy's recent videos show, God even overrides this.
What goes wrong first is connection.
What went wrong in Genesis 3 was a spirit to spirit connection was broken.
Had to walk out of a job this week, not in an acrimonious way, just a simple mutual acknowledgement that though I've moved pianos for 30 years with just me doing the lifting, the particular ladies unbelief that I could do it ,would be dangerous for the job, so a connection had been broken, and I had to withdraw.Outwardly you see nothing at first, but inwardly you know pretty precisely when the connection breaks down.

Churches do not need more power and anointing. They need to "see" the full extent of the supply of the Father through all the channels in their midst.

Christ is in each member as each member. The Kingdom of God is here now. Even in our mouth.

It is not a natural thing for someone trained in the flesh to do less,wind down, and encourage others to take their place.
But if we live the Life of God which has always had a Cross in it since before the foundation of the world, then sons will be turned to fathers and fathers to sons.
Notice Psalm 45:16 comes immediately before 17 :
I will cause Your name to be remembered in all generations;
Therefore the peoples will give You thanks forever and ever.There is great ongoing dividend if we follow the Spirit pattern. Here are some more:
The Luke verse adds
to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
The Ephesians passage goes straight onto
out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, ¹⁷ so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.
Now Havant and most charismatic churches are always asking the Lord for more power and more anointing, when all along these passages describe where the flow already is. Churches do not need more power and anointing. They need to "see" the full extent of the supply of the Father through all the channels in their midst.
Christ is in each member as each member. The Kingdom of God is here now. Even in our mouth.
Like an electrical circuit board with all sorts of gaps, and shortcircuiting pieces, the power is there in the church now, but each part does not do its work. Or if it does what it thinks is its work, it's some kind of "works" activity which refuses to acknowledge the finished work of God and seeks to add:
If I can just pray for 2 hours, if I can just fast more, if i can just worship more, if I can just read more Bible pages....... What is the work of God? That we believe on the Son of God whom the Father has sent. Where is this Son who the Father has sent now? At the righthand of God, but also indwelling us by the Spirit. This is the work of God , believing it.
So there is this dynamic tension between sons and fathers, even in the church, which the Holy Spirit alone holds together to form a vibrant community.


HYMN TO YOUTH/THE WORD - ©Words and Music A. Christopher Welch 1990
Lift up your sword you're a young man / It's your time to join the fight / You ain't got that much wisdom / But you're holding a bright light. / Do not fear all the old ones / As they cower and they rage / They once held the sword you're holding / But it's now you in centre-stage. /
Drama of history / Unrolling, unfolding Word / Somewhere in the middle / Of what is said and what is heard. / At the vortex of the conflict / Between the deaf, between the dumb / Between the aged and the stripling / Is the Word not old nor young.
Administered by No Name Ltd. 1991