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Sunday, 4 May 2025

Smoosh (blended together) and Zing (Anointing /Fragrance)

 






The reason why the world is at a kind of halt is this ....making the swapover from seeing people as trees walking and using them to perch in pyramids
All the way over to
discerning the Body of Christ demands a whole layer of skin off all of our hearts .
This action of the Lord to circumcise us has been prophesied in Ezekiel 36 about the new covenant .
Jeremiah 31 also .
Isaiah 59 uses a recompense word which in the context sounds ominous and also uses the word Coastlands .
Another statement is " Yet once more will I shake the heavens and the earth as of things that can be shaken. ".
When we make a smoothie in a blender we use lots of ingredients . The more ZING centred we get rather than FLAVOUR centered , or COLOUR CENTERED , THE MORE WEIRD THE MISMATCH .
In a cafe ,in order to sell anything at all , you'd have to stay with yellow or neutral ingredients .
Or blueberry coloured nutrients
Or chocolate brown ingredients .
You can't do them all at once .
If you have health problems, or even just value ZING FACTOR over taste , then you absolutely don't care too much about taste or colour .
ZING, if you haven't gathered , is every cell in your body going crazily happy about the download of fantastic amounts of many of the 90 vitamins and minerals we need to be perfectly healthy , all delivered at once in a mashed up smoosh .
ZING is real in the Spirit .
For 6 years I lived in one house of many cultures that don't ordinarily sit happily together on earth let alone in one house . I'm not joking , and I think God must have been, because two of the nations living together in the same house during the 1981 Argentine War , were Argentinians and British people .
ZING in the Spirit is what happens when we gather in the proper Name of Jesus . Because it HAS TO BE HIM TO ENABLE A PSALM 133 SMOOSH UP .
I don't know how Frank Viola got on , on his Gene Edwards Galeta Community SMOOSH UP .
The CIA and Rome hated what was happening with all these communities and Jim Jones and David Koresh Wako were staged events . I've read reports of Jim Jones being airlifted to London afterwards .
This affected the previous Holy Spirit drive into Community . We read the Holy Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness . At that point there was Only One member of the new Priesthood of the Order of Melchizedek . Jesus . The Son of Man . And the Son of God .
By the 70s there were a whole Jesus generation of born again baptised in the Spirit new teenage priests as the Bible truthfully calls us as believers .
We loved each other . We were round each other houses . We had meetings in the lounges .
We practiced 1 Corinthians 12 meetings .
We loved what we saw with Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk as they moved around the UK , including my school for a week .
A boy in someone's lounge that we met in , was from a grammar school in High Wycombe . He went into Bugbrooke Community which has since become the Evangelistic force known as Kings Army .
In 1975 or so Dr Heribert Muhlen, a professor in the Catholic Seminary at Paderborn was baptised in the Spirit . The offshoot for me is that I spent a lot of time in the Franke apartment . I was theoretically a Protestant and so was another girl called Karola .
I think everybody else that gathered there were Catholics . But Martin Franke had already at 17 or so , been sent to America to learn from many at Ann Arbor New Covenant Community but he was taken around by Judson Cornwall of the praise books for some of his time , plus he had access to the Kansas City Shepherds Conference tapes .....and the one everybody listened to is the one where Ern Baxter was off the ground for part of the message . Thy Kingdom Come . See LHS of my blog for the message link .
Karola( Lutheran Spiritfilled) married Martin ( Catholic Spiritfilled ) 10 or so years later .
The week , the very week of Jonestown CIA trauma , was the week I moved into community in Emsworth .
Don't get hung on the details . This Post Is about psalm 133 SMOOSH .
Here's the KICKER of this Post .
The Jesus Move thought that psalm 133 was what we were in by virtue of all being Spirit filled .
No .
A careful reading of the Psalms of Ascent shows absolutely that Pentecostal and Charismatic Church community has nothing whatsoever to do with what's happening in those ' top 4 psalms '.
The Bible can be annoying . Like , on paper , the brevity can be extremely deceiving , but in the wisdom of God , precisely what is written is the purpose of the Holy Spirit .
Why ?
Because the Bible is a thirdlevel book to point you into Christ who is seated at the centre of the Holiest Place .
It's not an Old Covenant Manual in the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in a step by step series of leftbrain instructions .
It's a British Underground Train map which is topologically accurate giving all the main stations , but absolutely no details of where Macdonalds is .
The Holy Spirit is given to " take of what is Mine and reveal it to you " , says Jesus .
Jesus wasn't allowed to sit people down and say , here's the 100 things you need to know , including point one .
He had to wait patiently until point one was revealed .
Peter suddenly got revelation of point one from the Father . " You are the Messiah , the Son of the Living God ." The Father's revelation AND the subject matter IS THE ROCK on which the ecclesia is built .
Yes , I know Peter means Rock too .
And I know Isaac means laughter .
And I know Jacob Twister Wheedler Usurper ( Name stealer ) got changed in one night to Prince with God , Israel .....and NO ....it's nothing to do with Isis Ra and Elohim , all smashed together like Yahweh Baal and Onisiris , the Jahbulon three headed god of Freemasonry .......
The point is the Father has to come near to our soul which is severely traumatised by 6000 years Abuse by a hater of our being , a name stealer , and abuser called the Devil.
Each revelation of the Father sloughs off this impenetrable outer skin in a fresh circumcision of nations in every generation .
Jesus is Messiah but the Holy Spirit has to reveal the Messiah by every Word of the Father .
He is the Brazen Altar Messiah raised up for us.
He is the Laver Priesthood Mirror Messiah who reveals Jesus in us .
He is the granter of supernatural gifts in the candlestick .
He is the engrafter Messiah of Table of ShewBread .
He is Altar of Incense / Day of Atonement Messiah / Psalm 131 Messiah.....where He weans us off being the centre of the universe and self for self .
So Jesus is also the Messiah who gets us from Atonement all the way through Feasts and Holiest Place into a fully functioning acacia box like Himself ....the description of the acacia box Mercy Seat .
So the Bible is annoying , because it doesn't spell out that's the reacceleration programme after psalm 131 , going through 132, 133 and 134 ......but that's precisely what Jesus was going through without sin , once anointed for priesthood .....
And where sin is involved , that's precisely what was happening through the Cross weekend , then the 40 day reacceleration programme of the disciples followed by the ten days waiting on the Lord who is now the Melchizedek Great High Priest and Lord of Lords MESSIAH in the heavenlies .
Sorry this is long but here's where I want to get to.
SMOOSHING AND ZING . And I'll probably use my blender afterwards .
At the height of their anointing to the UK , you could visit the Fisherfolk at Worcester Cathedral or Yeldall Manor Reading where they lived before the period on the Scottish island , allowing God to bring them into more 24/7 Jesus living ......
And you'd be left ZINGING for about 3 days .
The infusion of Word and Presence and Praise .
I'm using the Word Zing , but Jonathan Brennemann used similar words as he allows the Holy Spirit to move through him . ( His 2024 book Mechanics of Miracles on Amazon ).
Jesus said " if your eye be single then your body will be filled with Light ".
That's a rewriting of Psalm 123 and Jesus phrase
" I only do what I see my Father doing ".
Here's where I want to wrap up .
Part of the reason God let the CIA slow community down across the globe , as evil as they are , is because until Jack Fortenberry's book Corinthian Elders 2009, and Uncle Sid and his Chainsaw as sung by Don Francisco about South Chard Church Devon .......God never got really serious about how He runs Church .
We hadn't yet fully come to the Gate of Miphkad Jerusalem Gate in the Spirit .
Now we have .
Morris Cerullo said " All truth is parallel ".
It sure is .
We have never seen a time where there are so many absolute fools in power at one time . It seems most are now highly compromised people working the Freemasonic / Templars / WEF Training Course Agenda .
Pyramids are being shown not to work .
They never worked mathematically, but they don't work at all when not one leader even attempts to fulfil their manifesto , but do the opposite ,because basically the Rothschild or Rockefeller above them, and the Orsini above them, and the Brandini or Breakspear above them , and the 34 quadrillionaire Mr Paiseur above them , says no .
Community requires a psalm 133 core of psalm 134 people .
Priesthood isn't religious it's Jesus-ous.
It's learning how to walk Galatians 2.20......New Age and New Thought aren't good enough .....all they are is " christed " little c. They are just the carefully engineered excitement of rediscovering our very own same fallen spirit as always .....only for 200 years we were told it didn't exist .
And it's all very exciting like Findhorn community late 1960s ......before people find they can't actually stand each other .
Now I'm sure books like Surrounded by Idiots by Thomas Erikson help .......but we actually lived as a house and I can tell you this ......
1 Corinthians 12:14-26 dysfunction is real .
I'm not sure if it's THE reason all our marriages failed .....but society doesn't teach us Meyers Briggs type things for a reason.......
We won't be dependent any more
We won't be weak and divided any more .
We won't want pyramid so much anymore .
We might enter into a functioning body of people that learn homeostasis .
Ecclesia is the pillar and ground of truth of a completely different way of living outside the control spirit of principalities and powers .
Acts Jerusalem Church modelled it .
It's nowhere on earth .
Ecclesia has been stolen by the name stealers and recreated as rabbi pyramid synagogue , or still worse , full on quasi return to Levitical heirarchical ecclesiastica .....ecclesiastical means absolutely nothing in the Holy Spirit .
Pints with Aquinas are totally wrong on that even if they have good podcast guests .
It's like commune and communist .
They mean absolutely nothing in the Holy Spirit of God , whereas community means everything .
Marriage means something in the Holy Spirit .
Living together means nothing at all .
Gathering in the Name of the Catholic order or Anglican Order or Charismatic order of fellowship means absolutely nothing at all in the Holy Spirit .
The Apostolic Word is a direct mapping of many parallel things in our Bible .
The New Covenant organic New and Living Way is not so different from God , lived live , around an actual Pillar of fire and pillar of cloud in the wilderness .
The processing in the Spirit of the 12 Jacobs sons has extreme similarities with the formation of the 12 apostles .
The DIFFERENCE is the Holy Spirit work of John 14.21 and 17.21, because God is now Emmanuel ,He is now the heavenly Bread we are eating which takes us right off the Genesis 3 platform . This is still ongoing and isn't very manifest . But we see a cloud the size of a man's hand .....
We see Jerusalem Church , the one built by the Son of the House . That's errrr got to be an indication as much as Anglicans , Orthodox , Catholics and Northern Ireland Protestants fool around like kids in playpens with their pyramid heirarchies .
We see Chalfont St Giles prayer meetings becoming America .
Our generation has seen first level churches , become secondlevel churches , ready for actual thirdlevel Acts type churches where leadership is empowered AND HAS A SINGLE EYE .
THERE'S SMOOSH AND ZING .
AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE SIXTH DAY AND GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD .
READY FOR THE SON OF MAN TO GO INTO ACTION ,PECULIARLY , ON THE 7TH DAY OF REST .
This time, Isaiah announces for Jesus .....
The Government will be upon My Shoulders
Because Priesthood is Normal , and Because Jesus living is normal .
Hence why Arthur Blessitt had to trudge 38,000 miles around the earth with the Cross for 40 years , after being told he'd better stay in the hospital bed for the rest of his life because of his congenital heart defect .
" I can die in my bed , or I can die on the road making the Cross normal ".
38000 miles later on the very last day the Holy Spirit said , " Lay the Cross flat and lie on it ".
I think Arthur really got the point of Galatians 2.20.
So we can .
Galatians 2:20 NASB1995
[20] I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

Friday, 28 February 2025

Sliding Door Seriousness

 Two messages on one video clip . A few seconds pause between the scripted one below and then a Message on how there are Sliding Doors moments in history .



We don't need Jesus to die for us .
Yes we do . Here's why .
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Here's the truth .
Our slender existence on this planet is played out in types of blood.
We either submit to the Mafia type protection scandal .....of appeasement to spirits with a system I will describe . Or like Jews we paint blood upon our doorposts and escape the Avenging angel .
The Blood of Jesus Christ alone is our covering .
Angels who fell are consigned to judgment , so the same judgment that they have been promised they want to make sure happens to us , and to be fair , God has to allow that .
But there is an escape . On the day of the Fall He provided a promissory note in the form of real animals giving their lives .
But the true rescue , isn't even from Egypt in the first Passover , it's in the Passover of the Lamb .
Here's the dreadful tale nobody really knew on earth until these last 12 years of exposure .
Every year untold thousands of children die , some bred, some snatched from the streets or social care homes .
Jessie Czebotar is revealing the very architecture and symbols where the ritual murders take place . We walk past these very buildings and coats of arms .
Principalities and powers demand these sacrifices in return for top positions on their manufactured pyramids of Fortune 500 , Army , Government , media , Churches etc etc
Our only escape is Jesus .
He is our only legitimacy left .

Friday, 8 November 2024

A Chosen People, a Royal Priesthood

 See how the Lord's been moving us . There was an initial wave across the earth wasn't there? But the seed went into the ground and a new seed emerged from Luther onwards.  It has the appearance of myriads of little sects, but there are people growing . Around 1900 the baptism in the Spirit was being widely rediscovered. Then in the 1970s there was a whole opening up of what it was to be the Body of Christ. The work of the Holy Spirit continues in establishing us, now as a mighty priesthood before the Throne of God

Tuesday, 10 September 2024

From Deacons in Early History to God's Ekklesia Blueprint

 https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Deacon

A brother sent me this link which describes the way we got to some of the structure in our churches.

I sought to set forth the sort of pattern we have in the gospels ,Acts , the new churches and the Protocol descriptions of Ephesians 4 and 1 John 1.

Jesus is forming Himself in us . We do what God has us doing . If you read the history excerpts here they have already departed from what the gospels and Acts and the letters are about . You can see how it was but a hop step and a jump straight into Catholicism . 

 Step one is Jesus at the brazen altar ....our watery funeral and then being baptised in the Spirit to be functioning priests 

 Step two Is our new inheritance , being able to gather as this new thing in the earth called Ekklesia , Body under one Head ,as led by the Holy Spirit 

 Step Three Is whole of life living following the Holy Spirit . Which is both unity of the church and living Galatians 2.20. The Holiest place emblem is the acacia box mercy seat with three forms of developed Word The Law of the Spirit of life ...the tablets Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word from the mouth of God . Manna The Spoken Word of faith . Instances of Declaration . The almond stick . And in and around us is the Khavod glory which God has to do . He makes of us ministers of fire who speak God's Word or ministers of healing and deliverance . Partly grown Word in us looks like the disciples trying to haul in the biggest nets ...... This is the pyramid shape of denominational , evangelical and charismatic churches. Full grown word is people who have gone into the ground and been raised , and start finding each other and flowing as groups of ministries . The End product of Word is psalm 122, a City compact together . It's not socialism , like a bunch of Mark types that haven't been into the ground yet . It's circumcised ministry that never allows the holy Word to be swept aside by an illegal cup of tea. 
 http://www.thethirdlevel.info/2014/04/gracebookintimacy-and-disobedient.html




Thursday, 30 November 2017

Meghan Markle's Forehead, and why Britain Breaks God's Heart

Britain breaks God's heart continually. We disobey Proverbs 3 all our lives by trusting in our own insight. We throw ourselves into nothing. We are as far from St Peter as Australians are from us. Choosing this cautious, bury our talent in the ground walk......
we barely took up Magna Carta. The world ascribes it to us, but as David Starkey's book shows, it barely barely got anywhere.
The second proof your honour, is the way we run democracy. We have left Royalty, while preserving it, and preserving the unmerited "to the manor born aristocracy".
In a Christian country it does slow down antichristian efforts and perhaps that is why God allows it, but it's nowhere near democracy. It's another British half hearted decision.
Communism banned Christianity. Britain neither accepts Christianity, nor bans it.
Any church who is Biblical in any way whatsoever, historical Britain bans from immediate access,and prevents their members from entrance to the main universities,putting their churches 100 yards minimum off the main thoroughfare. You may remember that is why those who are not freemasons left Britain for America in the first place. (The freemasons were the other contingent)
Britain tars everything "Biblical" with the phrase Non Conformist. (Biblical adult baptism,Biblical plurality of eldership,Biblical  baptism in the Spirit, Biblical evangelism). Anglicanism isnt really a Biblical sect, but a subsection of the last dying sobs of the Roman Empire, and its sudden uptake of Christianity in its pagan mix of rite and Christian philosophy, called Catholicism around 250 AD.
But one thing or the other, again Britain doesn't make stands. It lives from cautious insight and hedging bets, which is as far from real faith as infant baptism is from the Bible version.
Next, Europe.
Only 4 percent more voted to leave Europe. This shows again, not having a whole hearted approach to living, people barely investigated Europe's freemasonic cunning plans, and so hardly merit the fruit of making the right decision, at least while Europe is a non representative, Brussels -led Luciferian enterprise bringing in the dreams of Alice Bailey and David Springer. But Brexit people wont know that because that isnt why they left.
Really Britain deserves to go down the plughole with the rest of Europe and experience things full on. This way they are barely ready for the enormous efforts at rebuilding our productivity and survival techniques.
You can't get anything more British, intellectual, and cautious than tapping Meghan Markle's forehead with a drop of water and calling that Christian baptism. No, that is Anglicans being whole hearted.

Thursday, 9 November 2017

Real History as it happened

For real church history and not the usual Jesuit rewritten version which erases God's real church from history, read

Torch of the Testimony -Kennedy. Reissued by Gene Edwards









Signs of Revival - Dr Patrick Dixon _ Kingsway








The classics on revival -Robert Backhouse. Hodder and Stoughton








The Pilgrim Church - EH Broadbent - Pickering and Inglis

Flashpoints of revival by Geoff Waugh BookSurge publishing













Miracle Workers, Reformers and New Mystics by John Crowder



Like a Mighty Wind by Mel Tari - the Indonesian Revival

Monday, 30 October 2017

INSIDE OUT - GOD'S "CALLED OUT" HISTORY OF EKKLESIA

A HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD UP UNTIL FACEBOOK AS YOU HAVE NEVER READ IT!!!!!
ek-klesia
called out
1 Peter2.9 chosen generation,(we are a different genus-eration)
called out from the general congregation to separate yourself unto purpose.... But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession,
2 Tim 20 -21`Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.
v.19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness.”
Revelation 18:4
4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
The Called out / Sojourning SAGA
called out and banishment sometimes look the same
hebrews 13 :We have an altar from which those who serve the [c]tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come.
Adam and Eve....."called out/banished" but as Norman Grubb reveals so clearly in "Yes I Am"....the curses were the "fastest" way to get back on inner track.....feeling the outer pinches drives us to inner answers...
So what looks like bad news....is actually good news because our innards begin to be reattached to the outer world again!!!!!
Noah...called out to build a boat and preach righteousness
GET this...100 year boat building session of three stories/floors /levels out in a desert where there are NO SEAS yet, and Rain hasnt happened yet, only DEW watering the earth!!!
Babel...called out/banished....into little sovereign groups separated by language....UNTIL Ephesians 1.11 ...an administration suitable to the summing up of the ages
Why? BIG GROUPS HAVE THEIR OWN MOMENTUM THAT CAN SUCK THEM OFF TRACK.
Terah, Abraham's Dad, calls his family out...
so they can have enough peace and quiet to really hear
And Abraham gets the Big Calling out
But he's called IN
Pays a deposit !!!! on the Land...
But then he's called OUT of where he was called IN
And he sojourns
Jacob's son Joseph is "called out/ banished" by his brothers, left in a hole to die, then rescued but sold as a slave into Egypt.
His brethren "receive the call" to go where the food is. Egypt.
Joseph and his brothers reunite.
Moses is "called out " as a baby to survive, when all his peers are killed.....he is "found" by the daughter of Pharoah himself...
His temper leads to murder and he flees....experiences banishment.....
40 years later he comes back to CALL Israel out of Egypt.
40 years later the Israelites are "called in finally to their LAND.
Then they are "called out"....to suffer in Babylon for refusing to walk with God enough to maintain their position as a nation under the One God.
Some return to the land.....
Jesus comes to such a people to "call them out" of their current believing, into a more accurate believing, which lays waste of the original Genesis 3 problem.
his people don't hear.....putting Him out of His hometown
being really unfriendly in synagogues and finally
putting Him out of Jerusalem as refuse, to die in Golgotha, the town dump area.
In Acts 2 Jesus by the Holy Spirit calls out a people away from the old sacrificial system into a New Covenant.
The Jerusalem Jews who refuse the gospel think that they are the IN People....but the real IN People are the OUT people,
and they are soon kicked further out all over Judea and further.
The OUT people ostensibly become the IN people as Rome recognises its own demise, and hugs desperately for saurvival onto the OUT people who are really IN
and forms what it thinks are the new IN people, the Catholic Church...
But the IN people, who really know God and are the Father type people mentioned in 1 John 2....Well those people are SO IN, they have to rush OUT
and became the "Desert Fathers".
The Catholics sent a delegation to Britain. The Celtic church came to visit them on the shore, but the Catholics thinking they were so IN, didn't even stand up to recognise the indiginous Christians. By this the indiginous Christians knew instinctively that the IN People had just shot themselves in the foot by betraying who they really were.....PAGAN BEAST people in fine religious clothing.
The IN People(Catholics) who were really OUT , murdered 70 OUT people (indiginous Christian Bishopswho believed firmly in the Holy Spirit) at Bangor and by it showed themselves though IN to be really OUT.
Nevertheless the OUT Catholics established themselves as the new order over 1000 years in Britain until an IN person in Germany called Luther became an OUT person for daring to suggest righteousness was by faith not works.
Different OUT people who are really IN, have guided Britain, but they were always called NON Conformists by the OUT IN people who nearly always ruled. Cromwell was a mixed exception, being an IN person who used OUT methods and burdened people with LAWS rather then the Holy Spirit.
In 1900 God's new IN people, that the Anglicans put out, were Holy Spirit people. They grew and formed the apostolic movement. But this IN movement that was out, actually became out, because it too was pyramid based, and God was interested in forming a Body.
Interestingly God looked to IN people that were OUT (the denominations) and appeared to work backwards just to fool everybody, and the charismatic movement formed within the IN OUT church. But the IN Church soon put them out and they too in time formed apostolic networks, that like the Pentecostal groups before them were still pyramid structured.
So in the 90s and 2000s people who were into the new OUT, were quickly put OUT of the Newer OUT churches which became the New IN as Timelife began distributing their praise CDs.
The New OUT people began meeting online to discuss how IN LIVING really works from the inside....
And up until 2017 these new IN people are still OUT....
Selah or watch this space

Saturday, 25 June 2016

From a hidden background organisation revealed now as the central part of all modern history




So much ground is covered here.  You will also be inspired to search out books that are now hardly known about.

-You will also learn of little known groups of genuine Christians and their powerful influence.

- Why the Lutheran Reformation could have been 300 years earlier

- The various methods Jesuits still use even today

Sunday, 28 December 2014

This IS the work of God

Chris Welch - 3 Facebook statuses
20 hrs · Edited ·
In the charismatic "thing" 70s 80s 90s it's difficult to think back and remember what it is actually we were believing for. I mean it wasn't all wrong but it was a bit like believing for many outward things....buildings, "ministries"...whatever they were, praise and worship to spread, proliferation of churches (by which we meant warehouses/megaplexes/ HillSongs type things, believing for signs and wonders...still am,believing for people to get saved....and it seems so slow....
but the one thing we didn't really believe for, because it wasn't even a concept for us to believe for...not really anyway....I mean we intellectually had a fumble at it because it was the prayer of St Paul in Ephesians...but it didn't MEAN THAT MUCH.....yet these are the things the Holy Spirit who knows how to lead us into all Truth has rightly majored on....
The formation of the actual Christ in us. As I said...it wasn't really a concept and still isn't in your average charismatic church....BUT THIS IS PRECISELY WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS SENT....to tell us all the things that we HAVE NOW IN THE HEAVENLIES...from which we can draw right now...and to OVERSHADOW US in more or less the same way that He overshadowed Mary. It is the same Jesus Christ that He is bringing to birth and manifestation in us who believe. This IS the work of God...,to believe ON the Son of God...,.to believe ON the work of the Son of God....,and what was that work? That He plunged the Old Adam into the grave and raised us in the likeness of Himself.
See, that's what is wrong with charismatic believing....,they extrapolate OUT from what they "see now" which is mostly outward stuff and try to screw up their faith to believe for MORE OF IT, for MORE BRICK BUILDINGS, believers like them,more electric guitar songs, MORE EVENTS....and ofcourse you can understand why this would be........
Just ONE PROBLEM WITH IT!!!
IT doesn't take any account of the fact that Jesus Christ Himself is installing HIMSELF in you....like a good version of an ALIENS MOVIE. Out of your belly shall flow rivers of Living Water....not just the experience type of waters of the downpayment in the baptism in the Holy Spirit....NO....this is pretty permanent FLOODTIDE. No charismatic anywhere thinks in terms of 3rd level churches of fully mature Jesus Christed individuals taking over the show in whole groups of interrelating families...blasting through neighbourhoods with Kingly and priestly anointing...with the conviction of Rees Howells, Norman Grubb, Basilea Schlink,Graham Pulkingham, Brother Andrew....in other words DEATH TO THE WHOLE SPECIAL CHRISTIAN SYNDROME that has dogged the church for 2000 years because nobody has actually taken the scriptures at face value and believed it all in.....and now you have scores of thirdlevellers exploding their way across earth...or as Daniel puts it....they shall shine as bright lights and run to and fro across the earth!!!!
To misquote MONTY PYTHON......."Nobody expects.... Jesus Christ in His people!!!!"
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Joey Jacobs Christ in us the hope of glory

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We are not preaching a fad doctrine. We are not preaching how to become a Christian, or how to ask for forgiveness of sins. We are not preaching how to be filled with the Spirit or how to speak the Word of Faith.
Now previously the BIG Bodies of Christians...the Catholics, the Episcopaleans, the Lutherans, and the smaller subsection non Conformists, as longstanding traditons of the Christian faith try to lay claim to the whole of Bible doctrine, but mostly if you enter their churches only small sections are actively preached, yet they wield an immense clout now after generations of existence. Catholics have this disarming guile to talk expansively about Desert fathers and ministries like Madame Guyon without batting an eyelid over their own track record of extermination of these self same servants when they were unlucky not to escape. The Desert fathers escaped to the wildernesses. No Catholic body ever announces shame, but instead insists on assuming all of church history into their bosom as if it were theirs. This would be similar to the Nazis, had they been successful, making a film about Colditz and profiting from the proceeds of the film.
What we are preaching is bigger than the doctrines of all these traditional groups put together for it is nothing less than unwinding the whole of history since Genesis 3.
Now the world is full of movements. The Jews mistakenly thought the early Christians who they called the Way were such a movement. Well if you can call Adam and Eve or Noah's family, or Abraham Isaac and Jacob a movement...or the 12 apostles a movement ...we just refer to it all as the same Way, the same story. Salvation yes...but it is THE HOW TO Guide for living on earth, there simply is no other way, no other revelation of God,no other name other than Jesus by which this whole thing works. SUBSECTIONS may work...but they always leave huge categories of cultures and people out, and they don't actually work as LIFE LIVED IN GOD, IN REAL TIME. This is what is offered in the gospel. It is unique and because it IS GOD HIMSELF and not some makebelieve He comes with His own Presence where His people genuinely gather in His Name. It's not a LOGO, or a heirarchy as is the pattern with all other types of christian church or non christian beliefs.....the Message of the WAY is such "folly" it makes this outlandish claim.
Where (any) two or three gather IN MY NAME there am I in their midst. Nothing about bishops and popes and priests who have spent a year or two learning about every single sin common to man for some confession booth...none of that.
God's foolishness is wiser than the wisdom of men.
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Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, is by supernatural overshadowing of the Holy Spirit into a genealogical line, the Son of Man also.
In the likeness of human flesh but without sin, he lived then as a New Seed and was planted into the ground in death to be raised a Vine comprising a multitude without number exactly like Him.
........for both he who is sanctifying and those sanctified [are] all of one, for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren.

Saturday, 11 August 2012

Everything until now is just a mere self-install programme





The article below began as a status on Facebook that never made it. Very like the subject matter itself, it continued to unfold itself so it was already too big for a regular Facebook status, or even one of my enlarged ones. To help you understand where the kernel thought came from I'll take a few lines to explain.
One way to understand the tabernacle in the heavenlies, of which Moses tabernacle in the wilderness is a copy, is as a kind of machine, like a carwash.  Unlike the devil's operation where you might say we are being "engodded".....he would tell us we move from insufficiency to be made into  "gods".....
the Truth is it's more like a stripping process like the almond rod of Moses which is one of the items in the Ark of Testimony....WE ARE BEING STRIPPED BACK...or CIRCUMCISED.... back into the image that both Francois DuToit and Andre Rabe describe....OUR ORIGINAL image as designed by God the Father, which already is MORE THAN SUFFICIENT for carrying the Image of God. The devil tells us lies and says we are not sufficient at all. We have to "be something different".

Next I thought in terms of a computer programme and how it too instals in a 3fold process. So really I just  superimposed the two ideas. The idea of the Tabernacle as a processing machine to take a fallen man right through to being a full incarnation of God's Life, together with the idea of installing a programme.

The Outer Courts
We receive the computer programme of God's complete package in His Son as a zipped up computer file.
We have absolutely everything from the moment that the Spirit of Christ comes into our spirit.
The Holy Place
We need the Holy Spirit to unzip the file for us, and self-instal the programme which is Christ's own Life.
We HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ABILITY to instal Jesus's Life, that's why it is a self-instal programme.The LIFE ITSELF instals itself by GRACE. The Holy Spirit alone is given to lead us into all truth and to show us all the things freely given in Christ. Note all the things are already given and part of the package, BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE HAVE GOT!!!!!
The Holiest Place
Once the Life of Jesus is fully installed, it is now fully up and running, and we receive a commissioning from God of what TO DO WITH IT. cf. (John Bunyan Pilgrim's Progress...after the Cross which is some time after Christian joins THE WAY,Christian puts on the full armor and goes into battle)

But my next thought was about how God's Word works through history.
Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times. Think of God's Light. His Word. As a self-install programme which forms a programme which then in turn becomes a self-install programme for the next full programme. Beginning to make your brain ache?
Well think of subatomic particles rotating around atoms, which then combine as molecules, which then form substances we see, which is all part of the Earth, which goes round the sun,whose solar system forms part of a galaxy of suns, which all form an innumerable number of galaxies, which make up the universe....and watch this space!!!!!     I make no apology for all this. This is the universe you live in, and this is the nature of the enormity of Word that we're a part of.
EVERYTHING WE HAVE EXPERIENCED UP UNTIL NOW IN GOD ON EARTH IS JUST A SMALL SELF-INSTALL PROGRAMME FOR THE MAIN PROGRAMME WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST IN A MULTI-MEMBERED BODY.
My next thought was "What triggers the changes?"
Song of Solomon says "Stir not up love nor awaken love until it please"
So what triggers everything is the Divinely awakened human heart crying out for more. (See Cry of the Human Heart by Juan Carlos Ortiz) So what if each sequence of Word as it unravels in the Earth is meant to provoke the next inward cry to trigger the next part of the programme? Hmmm....supposing this is also how the human body forms itself in the womb? (I throw that in)
This , then is the article:

Supposing the Word is like a whole series of Self-Install programmes
You're gonna have to have a Max Escher or Franz Kafka brain to get this one...but here goes.

What if God's computer programme called Light comes not only with its own DNA to self-install once...but the programme that is self-installed becomes the self-install to the next programme. So the first man, say , Abraham sees enough Light to give birth to a self-install revelation called "I AM the God of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob", which itself becomes the self-install revelation for a nation, called after Jacob's new name. And what if the experience of the new nation actually births the self-install of the first bit of God's full programme, which is Moses and the Law. And what if a nation living under the Law gives birth to the anguish of failure necessary for the new self-install operation which fooled the whole nation, because it bypassed the whole previous programme. It was born direct from heaven but through a girl Mary from the previously installed programme  . What was born was human....and not being LAW shaped, but being human shaped, Jesus fooled everyone.

(Let’s take a pause there and just consider.....
Up until now, not having anyone to tell them otherwise, the Israelites knew that God had given a  “numerical” promise through Abraham about stars, and sand on the seashores. So they thought in terms of fulfilment by birth. Interesting, they forgot about the “star” bit.  The “from above “ bit.
Then the other main strand came through a man called Moses who they knew should have died on a mountain while fasting from both FOOD and DRINK for 40 PLUS 40 days. The Revelation he had was LAW. A Law so advanced, with supernatural insight into all activities of men, including the science of bacteria which would not be known for another 3,300 years  (1446BC- 1850s).
So they knew about destiny. And they knew about people’s relation with an external thing ....a thing “out there” you took on board called THE LAW.
The Prophets and the Psamists saw more.
But at this stage, they were glimpses.
Jeremiah 31:31 The New Covenant
Psalm 22, Isaiah 53 The Suffering Servant
Isaiah 7:14 A Virgin with child???? Whaaaaat?
Not enough for most people to recognise the brand new “Self-install” Programme)



And what if when Jesus said "The Kingdom was at hand " to 12 other men He was launching a new self-install programme, which in its failure, would need a whole new programme, also only directly available from heaven, called the Mystery of Christ in you.

But what if the initially individual version of the  programme had to self-install, run its course and die much like the natural nation of Israel did. So a Church largely of individually conscious Christians had to run its course right through the middle Ages until Luther who again got revelation direct from heaven.

And what if this Lutheran Reformation was just the self-install programme for the beginning of a Melchizedek corporate programme run entirely from heaven. And what if in its first two main phases, the evangelical movement and the pentecostal/charismatic phases were just the self-install programme for another completely different operating system whatsoever.....ANOTHER RUDE AWAKENING as Big a Shock, if not Bigger still than the Jews had when they realised that the next phase was not in the shape of LAW...but a human being...Jesus Christ the only Son of the Living God?

How do you mean Chris?

(Well, let’s take another pause, because we have reached another equally big jump, and look at a strange Old Testament scripture.
Zechariah 4;7 Youngs Literal Translation “Who art thou, O great mountain Before Zerubbabel -- for a plain! And he hath brought forth the top-stone, Cries of Grace, grace -- are to it.'”

We’ll come back to the first bit concerning the mountain.
So we’ve had ONE Huge shock already with the arrival of Jesus Christ. Which took us completely away from salvation by our own efforts to adhere to LAW. He broke into the whole system, suffered and died under the old system to demonstrate that salvation begins apart from the Law altogether, by BELIEVING ON HIS WORK.
And this we call Grace.
The grace of complete and utter forgiveness of sins....for all time.
Well, that was the first major interruption.
But now we’re having the second BIG SHOCK.
You see there is a second GRACE.....and without the second grace the topstone, or completion of God’s work here on earth cannot be accomplished.
Before coming to that let’s go back to the mountain.
There is a particular mountain that has been being built according to the words of Psalm 2.
1  Why do the nations rage, And the peoples meditate a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against Jehovah, and against his anointed, saying,
Let us break their bonds asunder, And cast away their cords from us.
He that sitteth in the heavens will laugh: The Lord will have them in derision.
Then will he speak unto them in his wrath, And vex them in his sore displeasure:
Yet I have set my king Upon my holy hill of Zion.
I will tell of the decree: Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have I begotten thee.
Ask of me, and I will give thee the nations for thine inheritance, And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10 Now therefore be wise, O ye kings: Be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear, And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish in the way, For his wrath will soon be kindled. Blessed are all they that take refuge in him. end of passage.
The Kings of the earth are building an alternate mountain. And it is very clear from Psalm 2 that it is opposed to God’s self-installing Programme  whose whole Name is Light  here on Earth. The Light of the glory of God. In the Son Jesus. The kings of the earth even constructed a country to help bring in this alternate mountain. It is called the USA, and they even drew a rival picture to Zechariah 4 on the back of their dollar bill.  Most Americans weren’t ofcourse in any way involved and will be shocked to learn this. But the race is on for two topstones.

The pyramid topstone or capstone of a whole Order which attempts to utterly exclude God, and instal its own King.....the King of Tyre, as described in Ezekiel 28.

Why the King of Tyre?  Yes , he was an historic figure. But where is Tyre?
In the Bible, Tyre and Sidon are often mentioned in the same breath.  The same chapter prophesies of a kingdom whose name is Sidon. Where is Sidon? Tel Aviv.
And this city is the one that rules the present kingdom called Israel. But the Bible makes it clear that the present Kingdom does not resemble the Kngdom which is ruled from Jerusalem later in the chapter.

So why the King of Tyre? Because the main representative of Satan here on earth, which is referred to over and over again in the prophetic books scattered right through the Old and New Testaments, may well come from that region, or be crowned there.If not, it is a reference to how a human being can be so given over to Satan that he perfectly rules representing this fallen angel.  It has been the plan of the ages. The one that was interrupted at Babel. At Babylon. At a number of geographical regions since.

So all the while that a NEW HOLY TEMPLE is being built in the Earth made of countless people who all have God’s LIGHT programme unfolding within themselves, a horriffic Satanic counterfeit is doing its best to piledrive its foundations into every aspect of  the world’s nations.)
I was in a Facebook discussion with a man I know a little from my own church who has moved to a Portsmouth church.  The things I am writing seem so unnecessary to him. It comes as a complete shock to him that
EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING
Even what we know of Jesus Himself so far as churches
IS ONLY THE SELF-INSTAL PROGRAMME for the full Programme that is busy being installed through vehicles such as Facebook right now.

What is that Chris?
I have just heard of a Word given by Mark Stibbe about the Father heart of God giving birth in the Church to REFORMATION.
Bear in mind I was around in the 70s when Gerald Coates, George Tarleton, John McLaughlin, John Noble, Nick Butterworth and Mick Inkpen were producing Fulness Magazine, which posited not only that people get baptised in the Spirit, but that this would lead to a whole new way of living which would become a Reformation, bigger than that which followed Luther.

But that is what I am saying.

We’ve ARRIVED at the SECOND GRACE Message. The One that completes the Capstone here on Earth.

And just as it was for the Jews a complete shock to have a Person, a human being, God’s Son Himself, invade their salvation programme...
SO IT IS IN THIS DAY in our very own churches.

Because the second GRACE message only comes after horrible failure while trying desperately to live the Kingdom Life. This failure we are calling Romans 7. The very same experience that Paul wrote and himself experienced.

The Grace of the discovery in our brokenness of a complete replacement. A complete divine Exchange at the Cross. Not just forgiveness of sins through the shedding of Blood..... BUT A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT at our innercentre, already accomplished at the Cross, but taken by faith into experience in our own lifetime.

Paul wrote in Galations 2:19,20 Youngs Literal Translation
for I through law, did die, that to God I may live;
20 with Christ I have been crucified, and live no more do I, and Christ doth live in me; and that which I now live in the flesh -- in the faith I live of the Son of God, who did love me and did give himself for me;
This “self-installing”  LIGHT programme that has been ever working and unfolding from generation to generation

ONLY really works as people cry in frustration as the previous systems do not “fully work”. Yes aspects are good. In general, each revelation God brings gets fuller and fuller.....but HIS REST can only fully come as we get the WHOLE PACKAGE of this self-installing programme.

It is nothing less than the BIRTH of JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF in our spirits, soul and body.

And THIS IS WHY IT SAYS

1 John3:2 YLT  beloved, now, children of God are we, and it was not yet manifested what we shall be, and we have known that if he may be manifested, like him we shall be, because we shall see him as he is;

Adam gave birth to sin and death from the inward to the outward some 900 years later.


St Paul knew fully that he was doing the same in reverse with the new seed, and fully expected that it would manifest in his body. In his case, he was murdered before it fully did.