Jesus- The Word, the Bread, The Manna

John Curtis on

John 6:27-51
The Bread of Life

6 After this, Jesus crossed over the Sea of Galilee, also known as the Sea of Tiberias. 2-5 And a huge crowd, many of them pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem for the annual Passover celebration, were following him wherever he went, to watch him heal the sick. So when Jesus went up into the hills and sat down with his disciples around him, he soon saw a great multitude of people climbing the hill, looking for him.

Turning to Philip he asked, “Philip, where can we buy bread to feed all these people?” 6 (He was testing Philip, for he already knew what he was going to do.)

7 Philip replied, “It would take a fortune[a] to begin to do it!”

8-9 Then Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, spoke up. “There’s a youngster here with five barley loaves and a couple of fish! But what good is that with all this mob?”

10 “Tell everyone to sit down,” Jesus ordered. And all of them—the approximate count of the men only was five thousand—sat down on the grassy slopes.11 Then Jesus took the loaves and gave thanks to God and passed them out to the people. Afterwards he did the same with the fish. And everyone ate until full!

12 “Now gather the scraps,” Jesus told his disciples, “so that nothing is wasted.”13 And twelve baskets were filled with the leftovers!

14 When the people realized what a great miracle had happened, they exclaimed, “Surely, he is the Prophet we have been expecting!”

15 Jesus saw that they were ready to take him by force and make him their king, so he went higher into the mountains alone.

16 That evening his disciples went down to the shore to wait for him. 17 But as darkness fell and Jesus still hadn’t come back, they got into the boat and headed out across the lake toward Capernaum. 18-19 But soon a gale swept down upon them as they rowed, and the sea grew very rough. They were three or four miles out when suddenly they saw Jesus walking toward the boat! They were terrified, 20 but he called out to them and told them not to be afraid.21 Then they were willing to let him in, and immediately the boat was where they were going![b]

22-23 The next morning, back across the lake, crowds began gathering on the shore waiting to see Jesus.[c] For they knew that he and his disciples had come over together and that the disciples had gone off in their boat, leaving him behind. Several small boats from Tiberias were nearby, 24 so when the people saw that Jesus wasn’t there, nor his disciples, they got into the boats and went across to Capernaum to look for him.

25 When they arrived and found him, they said, “Sir, how did you get here?”26 Jesus replied, “The truth of the matter is that you want to be with me because I fed you, not because you believe in me. 27 But you shouldn’t be so concerned about perishable things like food. No, spend your energy seeking the eternal life that I, the Messiah,[d] can give you. For God the Father has sent me for this very purpose.”

28 They replied, “What should we do to satisfy God?”

29 Jesus told them, “This is the will of God, that you believe in the one he has sent.”

30-31 They replied, “You must show us more miracles if you want us to believe you are the Messiah. Give us free bread every day, like our fathers had while they journeyed through the wilderness! As the Scriptures say, ‘Moses gave them bread from heaven.’”

32 Jesus said, “Moses didn’t give it to them. My Father did.[e] And now he offers you true Bread from heaven. 33 The true Bread is a Person—the one sent by God from heaven, and he gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “give us that bread every day of our lives!”

35 Jesus replied, “I am the Bread of Life. No one coming to me will ever be hungry again. Those believing in me will never thirst. 36 But the trouble is, as I have told you before, you haven’t believed even though you have seen me.37 But some will come to me—those the Father has given me—and I will never, never reject them. 38 For I have come here from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not to have my own way. 39 And this is the will of God, that I should not lose even one of all those he has given me, but that I should raise them to eternal life at the Last Day. 40 For it is my Father’s will that everyone who sees his Son and believes on him should have eternal life—that I should raise him at the Last Day.”

41 Then the Jews began to murmur against him because he claimed to be the Bread from heaven.

42 “What?” they exclaimed. “Why, he is merely Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know. What is this he is saying, that he came down from heaven?”

43 But Jesus replied, “Don’t murmur among yourselves about my saying that.44 For no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him to me, and at the Last Day I will cause all such to rise again from the dead. 45 As it is written in the Scriptures, ‘They shall all be taught of God.’ Those the Father speaks to, who learn the truth from him, will be attracted to me. 46 (Not that anyone actually sees the Father, for only I have seen him.)

47 “How earnestly I tell you this—anyone who believes in me already has eternal life! 48-51 Yes, I am the Bread of Life! When your fathers in the wilderness ate bread from the skies, they all died. But the Bread from heaven gives eternal life to everyone who eats it. I am that Living Bread that came down out of heaven. Anyone eating this Bread shall live forever; this Bread is my flesh given to redeem humanity.”

52 Then the Jews began arguing with each other about what he meant. “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” they asked.

53 So Jesus said it again, “With all the earnestness I possess I tell you this: Unless you eat the flesh of the Messiah* and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. 54 But anyone who does eat my flesh and drink my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him at the Last Day. 55 For my flesh is the true food, and my blood is the true drink. 56 Everyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood is in me, and I in him. 57 I live by the power of the living Father who sent me, and in the same way those who partake of me shall live because of me! 58 I am the true Bread from heaven; and anyone who eats this Bread shall live forever, and not die as your fathers did—though they ate bread from heaven.” 59 (He preached this sermon in the synagogue in Capernaum.)

60 Even his disciples said, “This is very hard to understand. Who can tell what he means?”

61 Jesus knew within himself that his disciples were complaining and said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 Then what will you think if you see me, the Messiah,[f] return to heaven again? 63 Only the Holy Spirit gives eternal life.[g]Those born only once, with physical birth,* will never receive this gift. But now I have told you how to get this true spiritual life. 64 But some of you don’t believe me.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who didn’t believe and knew the one who would betray him.)

65 And he remarked, “That is what I meant when I said that no one can come to me unless the Father attracts him to me.”

66 At this point many of his disciples turned away and deserted him.

67 Then Jesus turned to the Twelve and asked, “Are you going too?”

68 Simon Peter replied, “Master, to whom shall we go? You alone have the words that give eternal life, 69 and we believe them and know you are the holy Son of God.”

70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, and one is a devil.” 71 He was speaking of Judas, son of Simon Iscariot, one of the Twelve, who would betray him.

Our Savior warned about the danger of laboring only for temporary, physical sustenance and neglecting that which is spiritual and everlasting (v.27). The Jews to whom Jesus was speaking knew about the bread from heaven (manna), which God miraculously had provided to meet the physical needs of their forefathers in the wilderness. Yet here in there midst stood Jesus Christ, the true Bread of Heaven, teaching them eternal truths; nevertheless, most of them could only respond with insulting questions. They refused to believe in Christ and thus enjoy the spiritual Bread that satisfies completely and eternally. This Bread of Life was, and still is, a gift. While mankind must labor for that which is temporary, eternal life is free. What a contrast!
The Lord Jesus Christ's message was not complicated: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on Me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life (vv.47-48). The gospel of Christ is simple yet powerful; it will save anyone and everyone who believes (Rom.1:16). The Word of God explicitly states that satanically inspired opposition to the gospel will always exist. Nevertheless, we do not need to soften God's message, sugar coat it, or embellish it in attempt to lessen its offense. Paul did not try to alter the gospel in order to appease the Jews or the Greeks (1 Cor.1:18-25). Jesus Christ, the Bread from Heaven, can be, wants to be, and will be the Savior and satisfaction of all who come to Him (v.37). We have wonderfully good news to proclaim! If the Bread of Life has satisfied your soul, then share Him with others. Together with the psalmist, let the redeemed of the Lord say so (Psa.107:2).


Chris Welch on
We believe then we speak..........

In Genesis 1 God never said "Hmmm...all this Tohu Bohu (chaos) I'll just see how it works out. All things work together for good....."
Some things you have to address....but it will become obvious as an inner explosive build up.
So God spoke.....and it was!!!!!
Secular people are lazy bastards. They want to flit through life "seeing how it will all pan out."
God has presented Man with the fantastic shared responsiblity and privilege of speaking the New Creation into being. God could have done it all Himself....and in one sense He did....but Romans 10 is about our shared responsibility.....
All the equipment is there....all the tools are there....but man's glory is to TRIGGER IT. Somebody has to pull the trigger. And the earth is given to man to do it. Not to angels , fallen angels, or even God Himself.....
You believe in your heart....
You confess with your mouth
And you pass inwardly from Death to Life and in experience!!!!
You believe in your heart
you confess with your mouth
and you receive the full baptism in the Spirit which launches you into things no humans can ordinarily do
You believe in your heart
you confess with your mouth
Galatians 2.20
and YOUR OUTSIDE WALK starts to magically line up with your innards....unlike the rest of the current church and Jews in general
Acknowledge Him in all your ways and HE WILL MAKE STRAIGHT YOUR PATHS.....
everything is believing and speaking.....that's just how it is.
Leave the secular to make a ballsup of their Globalist world
we are welcoming King Jesus.

and....

For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.Rev19.10

This is as near as you will get to a mathematical equation in the Spirit. it works in both directions.
It kind of links the three forms of Word in the Mercy Seat In the Holiest Place.
The Testaments
The Manna ....the fresh "what's that?" of God
The Almond stick of declaration authority and Command
are all the testimony of Jesus in the form of the spirit of prophecy.
Perhaps you can think of LOGOS as a slowmotion prophecy.
All of history is the Story of God Incarnating Himself.
God is Spirit and His idea, His conception is to make Himself manifest in flesh and later....glorified flesh....
We saw the film trailer when Jesus was Transfigured.
You, Jesus and me are the main film!!!!! He the Head we the Body.
Sure there are discrepancies in the Bible....some are quite legitimate...just viewing the same things from different angles.
Some are weird translation issues, but mostly we can go back to early records.
Corinthians clarifies that unless we have the Spirit's revelation we cannot understand the things of God anyway.
Bible believers don't mess around with the Word too much...not because they are all Southern USA hicks that don't know better...
But because anybody who has lived with the Word of God has experienced it proving itself over and over.
Secondly, anybody that has moved in prophecy and absolutely knows that never came by somebody's mind....because of the way the Word ties in with other scriptures and also by the Presence of God's glory often tangibly felt after delivery.....
The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired words and accounts describing Holy Spirit invasions of history. In order for characters to make an appearance they had to be the equivalent of what 1 John 2 calls Father Level people. Spirit people grown up. And if they weren't, like the gospels, then they are accounts of people growing up.
For that reason when the Bible is read, when the stories and teachings , prophecy , poetry and wisdom are read, they have Divine power. They are written through and in the spirit of prophecy. The Testimony of Jesus.....even before His earthly appearance. If you read the Bible to sick people, the power of the word alone quickens faith for healing, for deliverance, for restoration , for prosperity. The Word truly is (Hebrews 4) Living and active. None of this works as a leftbrain tool. It works because the Word comes from Spirit and communicates straight through to spirit. Ps 42 Deep calls unto deep.
I don't denigrate it as a leftbrain book. The details are accurate.
But the power isn't in our leftbrains which is why nothing ever happens in the West. The leftbrain is not a POWER TOOL when it comes to the miraculous....it just isn't geared to be, it is useful in other areas. Jesus didn't explain to the dead body of Lazarus....for these reasons body you must wake up now. Point one. Point Two Point Three.
Jesus groaned deep within then focussed His faith on the tomb and let forth with "Lazarus....Come forth."
This is the testimony, the spirit of prophecy that the Word builds within us. Seminaries use the Bible in a completely wrong and ungainly fashion. It is for bringing forth Word out of the stomachs
of new ministries. The way seminaries use the Bible is more akin to paper hankies for blowing out your leftbrain bogies onto.

Continuous Bread

The Revival Intercessors are some of the most to be pitied. They spend hours interceeding but hold their hands up to their ears lest the Lord actually tell them how revival works.
You can't spell it out more than
1 John 2
The Jewish Feast Cycle
The names of the Gates of Jerusalem
yet they still pray the Lord to come back and fix everything including a revival.
Hey Lord.....come down out of the clouds and just zap America, Asia, Europe the Middle East. Thankyou Jesus. Lots of speaking in tongues to stop Jesus telling them any differently. Amen. End of prayer.
It's a bit like entering a posh restaurant in New York and ordering Macdonalds.
But we don't do Macdonalds sir
Excuse me I wasn't talking to you and who put this misleading bit of literature on the table anyway?
That's the a la carte menu sir
Well i don't like mess on my table. Move it off and get me a Big Mac
This is Intercessors for America!!!!


The Thirdlevel IS REVIVAL
While churches are scrapping around in the first two levels and then praying for revival, the whole of God's heavenly engineering programme grinds to a halt midway like a half built Tower.
Jesus says REVIVAL IS IN THE THIRD FEAST . It's called the Feast of Ingathering
Isn't that the thing that happens after you come back?
Does Bread only get made after I come back?
Nope
Well I have been running the same cycle since the beginning,,,,,what's the big problem My Church have with actually leaving a loaf in the oven until it's cooked?
Oh we can't do that Lord. You have to come down and do it.
I've given you the oven, I 've given you the grain and I've given you the knob on the oven. What more is there to understand? Just leave the Bread in the Oven and turn up the temperature!

In the Manger is the Bread of Life Part Two

In the first part we looked at Jesus in the manger and then looked at a real world conflict that concerned tithing.
Today I want to look at Cain and Abel in relation to the manger. 

Genesis 4 NIVAdam^[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.^[b] She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth^[c] a man.” ² Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. ³ In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. ⁴ And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, ⁵ but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
⁶ Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? ⁷ If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”

 SOIL speaks of works, of the very curse which ACTS to Wear at our insides....to bring us to an end of our selves.The POINT of the CURSE even has a "wink" in it as Norman Grubb would say. It brings us to ourselves. To the true nature of what is a self.
FLOCKS speak of that which grow of themselves, SEPARATE to our efforts, which were offered in our place.
In Genesis 3
²¹ The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
An animal died as replacement in order that our "sin", our "selves" were covered.

 Whatever happened had to be a complete answer.
Cain's offering is not a complete answer.
Adam and Eve's figleaves were not either.

Even the yearly presentation by the High Priest referred to in Hebrews, although the whole pattern was DIVINELY REVEALED, was not a complete answer. Because it had to be repeated each year on the Day of Atonement. And High priest by high priest died.
Now for this even to be mentioned meant Paul (or whoever wrote Hebrews) was thinking in COMPLETE terms which involved the defeat of DEATH itself.

What Cain was doing was religion. He was operating out of his "darkness"........ the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them who believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them.1 Cor 4:4
What is the Darkness inherited from Genesis 3.
That we can live as separated  beings, self-empowered souls.
This position is a delusion and comes out of a totally wrong view of God, a lying view of God as a hard taskmaster, as someone, far from being our Father, actually holding out the best from us, and thus we were in need of some "helpful advice from a serpent" to show us how to act like god, knowing good from evil.
But this independent stance is not really independent since we are made to be empowered by spirit....and if not empowered by Deity....we hook into not our self....but the fast one that was played on us, was that we hooked into a perishing self, Satan's spirit. The nature of this "wrath" spirit is that we now have a junk feeling being around God who is holy.

We feel separate from God, even though we still live from what is basically His Life. He is,after all, the Only Life in the universe. 

So without any revelation of God's heart like Abel had, we feel we have to "buy off" this guilt.
All religion is about the appeasement of an "out there " God.
God's heart is about connection. About doing everything in His Power to bring us back not only into relationship....(Havant church have got that far)....but into UNION, into FUSION.


If you are still in an appeasement mentality you are still in shame. You haven't really seen God's love for you. Not you among others....YOU PRECISELY as you are!!! Precisely as you are God loves you.
If we don't see God....not really....I mean really as He is, we give Him the scrag ends of our produce, the works of our hands, and hope that somehow we've fit the bill, that we've appeased this far off, out there God.


Let's go forward a moment to a beautiful "image capture" in the Spirit that is recorded for us in the Old Testament. Both Daniel Yordy and I have come to its significance independently. I refer to Genesis 22:7b and 8
And (Isaac) said, “Behold, the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?” ⁸ Abraham said, “God will ^[a]provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.

God will provide for Himself the lamb

In the context that this statement was made:
of an extremity of obedience that none of us can hardly imagine, yet in this situation to boldly assert his word of faith, and a word of faith of world changing TRUTH and MEANING .

People say Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son. I'm sorry that doesn't cut it. Isaac was his only real son by Sarah at that point, and born according to supernatural promise, after years and years and years of heartache and believing. It was this very child of promise Abraham was going to willingly sacrifice AND contrary to stupid worldly professors who sit in their stupid theological colleges in Cambridge and Oxford, comparing his act "anthropologically to neighbouring cultures who sacrificed their children"
this was done stating by faith : God will provide (for) Himself the lamb.

The manger is an incredible scene. We do not know that Jesus was still in the manger for the arrival of the three magi, but for the arrival of the shepherds he was. And this was the true Lamb who takes away the sin of the world. They were required to BEHOLD.
Not to bring gifts.
Not to do anything particularly.
Just Come.
Just Behold.

It had been 400 years since the last main written prophetic Word from God.
After this hiatus of extraordinary length what would be the next Word from God?
Well there were several...from angels,Simeon,Anna and Zechariah....but the BIG ONE direct from God
was in flesh form. 
Here now.  
A Baby.
A life.
Bread for the Life of the world in a feeding trough in a city called House of Bread.
I want you to catch something in this article.
Because the Jews haven't caught it yet  and neither has the world church.



Religion is an act of appeasement in the false belief that we as independent beings have to buy off this "out there separate God" who is desperately angry with us.
That's all Cain understood.
Abel gave of the fattest portions of His flocks, and knowing the heart of God knew this wouldn't be a problem to an All Blessing God. He was looking ahead, seeing in the Spirit.

By the time of Jesus arrival the full revelation of the sacrifice of animals had been well and truly caught ever since Moses, and was now a religion. Even that had become the religion of Cain.
To buy off an angry God.
A separate out there God.




What was God's answer?
A son.
Conceived directly from the Life of the Father.

In other words God's answer was not religion.
It was a Life.
A Life source.
Divine in nature.
That we also RECEIVE a WHOLE LIFE.
Not a religion.
Not steps To a Life.
Not 10 steps to overcome.
Not manuals.
Not even gifts of the Spirit.
BREAD.
For transplanting into the whole of our Life.



We don't DO anything to GET anything.
We COME.
WE BEHOLD a BABY in a foodtrough.



Let's break into this here with another brief point.
The stable says two or three things.
It tells us about how things are to be from now on.
This is a Melchizedek Order event.
As is the whole of the NATURE of Jesus Life on Earth and continues to be now as lived by us.
He comes from effectively nowhere, since He has no human father, being Divinely conceived.
At the end of His life he will return to the Father (humanly what seems like nowhere) by rising in the ascension.
The nature of all "meeting" or "gathering together in the stable" is by DIVINE revelation. It's supernatural.
The only reason Mary is pregnant was by supernatural overshadowing bythe Holy Spirit . The only reason the shepherds are there is because they were divinely instructed. And the only reason the wise men turn up is again by instruction from a star. Each bring something. The shepherds are there because Jesus is the Lamb. The wise men each bring gifts about a fact of Jesus Life. This is how meetings are in the Holy Spirit. Each person has a contribution but it concerns "this Life that we have handled and tasted and touched.".


It's NOT a religion.
It's not tithing.
It's not supporting a priesthood.
It's not rehearsing some morbid religious event.
It's Beholding a Lamb that was slain who ferried off our former existence
and left it there, and who resurrected with Us in Him
now CO-SHARERS IN A LIFE.

No human is ever ready to welcome the Melchizedek Order.
In fact human Kings are gathered together it says to destroy the King. Psalm 2
So no organisation was ready to receive Jesus, and so like His death, He
is effectively "out the back".....in a stable.

Yet His BIRTH , LIFE and DEATH cut right through Cain religion.
Jews thought they could slightly modify their existing process and allow
Him to intersperse the odd reading....UNTIL HE declared HIS LIFE....NOW....
saying, Now is this scripture fulfilled in your presence."

A religion about Jesus, as the Christian Church have made it is not offensive.
But the ACTUAL LIFE of Jesus received by faith
Eating His flesh BY FAITH
IS really OFFENSIVE....

because it spells the end of tithing and supporting a priesthood, that actually
in Hebrews terms, or heavenly Sanctuary terms, was NEVER a priesthood.
It spells the end of hoops, activities to gain more of God's Life
Rather ALL ACTIVITIES and they are LIFE ACTIVITIES NOW proceed
out of beholding what this Lamb has done.

People used to wonder at His authority.
Well His authority came OUT of HIS LIFE.

Hebrews 7:15-16    ¹⁵ And this is clearer still, if another priest arises according to the likeness of Melchizedek, ¹⁶ who has become such not on the basis of a law of ^[g]physical requirement, but according to the power of an indestructible life.   


This is the point I am making with Simon Waters,Ed Harding,Martin and Kay Elwood and every single one at Havant....
there are NO LAWS of physical requirement, no tithing, no activities according to a law like meetings, like reading the Bible, like praising, like praying....

All these things Issue FORTH out of an indestructible Life, the Bread that was in the manger that came down from heaven.  

WE LIVE NOW FROM A SPONTANEOUS LIFE

Tithing makes no sense because there is no levitical priesthood. Only a Law of Giving and supernatural REBOUND, a whole giving cycle that we enter into , but in the context of our whole lives now issuing out of that SHEAF that the Jews waved on Easter Sunday morning  , without knowing this was the very resurrected Life of Jesus that was walking in such an unassuming way out of the Tomb....almost as if nothing had happened, and Mary certainly was confused. Was this the gardener?


When we meet, we meet in Life. We gather all the more because of the magnetism of the Life within us."Gather together all the more frequently as you see the Day drawing near."

The very ministry of Jesus was Him living. He shared the Kingdom life He had with 12 normal people.And beyond them to the rest of the multitudes. It was largely outside of the synagogue walls, although at times he would go within the old system. But the system was as irrelevant as church life is to us who have now discovered this ALL DAY ALL NIGHT ALL WEEK Bread. We'll go into church in order to try to penetrate the system with God's message of Love, but like Judaism as a system, church life also as practiced now in its Cain like separation, is an irrelevance.  All over the world God is bringing forth a manifestation of the obedience of faith.
Jesus said...who is it who is righteous? Those who say Lord Lord, yes, but don't do the will of my Father, or those who express no concern and say , no no....but afterwards obey and hear the Lord.

Such is this increasingly broken generation who know little of church, little of christianity, but who will increasingly "catch" this Galations 2:20 consciousness of ours. 


Jesus said...who is it who is righteous? Those who say Lord Lord, yes, but don't do the will of my Father, or those who express no concern and say , no no....but afterwards obey and hear the Lord.Such is this increasingly broken generation who know little of church, little of christianity, but who will increasingly "catch" this Galations 2:20 consciousness of ours.

Such is this increasingly broken generation who know little of church, little of christianity, but who will increasingly "catch" this Galations 2:20 consciousness of ours.