Showing posts with label two Deliverances at the Cross. Show all posts
Showing posts with label two Deliverances at the Cross. Show all posts

Wednesday, 25 June 2025

How Truly Big This All is ?

 

And the Moravians Sang On....

If you look at Lutheran faith after 1000 years of Catholicism you couldn't have even imagined such a changeover during the period leading up to it .


What is the changeover ? The personalisation of the Cross to me . The finished nature of Christ's work .

Through personalisation and the translation of the Bible at last ....at least for those who can read or learn reading through the Bible ......politics changes . Steady state science begins based on the  investigation of God's order in creation .


God's Presence is always and everywhere there .

We have to remember that in the so called Dark ages of Catholicism . People will look back and are  starting to , to label the Enlightenment as the Endarkenment , because human minds were dumbed down from all spirituality whatsoever .

And as we are spirit , as any Eastern faith will teach , this is essentially insanity .

So at regular intervals there were revivals and the Wesley and Whitfield one was decades long and at least one was a product of meeting Moravians on a ship . Moravians were a product of 100 years prayer meeting. There's a surge of pure God energy in that very connection .


Likewise nobody could envision the changeover that happened through Pentecostalism , the rediscovery of baptism in the Spirit .

It is the Holy Spirit who makes the New Covenant work. It is one of the central themes of Jesus last preach to the disciples in the Passover Meal ....that and the oft repeated " Whatsoever you ask in My Name shall be done for you ".


We just had no clear OFF THE GENESIS 3 LYING PLATFORM idea of what the dicke-ns " In my Name meant "


Gathering in My Name became experiential in Baptism in the Spirit . People were learning first hand to do things with the powers of the age to come and it can only work with some notion of prayerful knowing of when the Holy Spirit is leading us personally .


But how to do that outside meetings ?

How are we losing God ? What's dissipating ?


That's the third level discoveries of Cambridge mind Norman Grubb put to work on the subject , within running a world mission WEC for 60 years .


Nobody could have previsaged what could happen through Luther'simple restatement of the Brazen Altar Door way of Christ's Cross through whom multitudes poured through Lutheranism .


Nobody could have previsaged the millions converted through the work of the Holy Spirit in the last 100 years , and especially the work of Bonnke in Africa , leading one in every 100th inhabitant of the planet to the Lord ....80million plus .

Nobody could even dream of that in 1900 before the 1904 outpourings .


But what then , the combination of first stage , second stage and third stage growth of Christianity able to completely reverse Genesis 3 itself across the planet . Not just by the cheapskate message of a return to spirituality in New Age ....which is nothing more than meditating down into and further strengthening and confirming our own possession in Kundilini , the snake , the reptilean .....


No, this is believing upon Christ's export of the whole snake condition , and the whole self run I Will Thelema from the devil himself ...,.who then just leeches off us until our deaths ......


No .....out of here Devil .

Jesus the Lamb who yes takes away sins .....but legacy  churches , evangelical churches and Charismatic churches are also just as cheapskate as New Age ......they never specify and Ringfence Genesis 3.

Jesus is the scapegoat .

He is the Lamb and scapegoat who takes out quite literally the One Sin of Satan that there ever was ....

Living outside of God .


If you ask anything in My Name it shall be done for you .

And if there is a Church that believe all that we truly are in the upper realms of psalms of Ascent 

Psalm 133 and 134

Psalm 149

Psalm 24

Psalm 110 and in THE DAY OF GREAT POWER .

Sunday, 1 April 2018

where are YOU,where is your true PERSON?

A Look through scriptures at the Cross...

When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

8 They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 Then the Lord God called to the man, and said to him, “Where are you?” 10 He said, “I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself.” 11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 The Lord God said to the serpent,etc......working out from the root as He does today.









Exodus 12
Now the Lord said to Moses and Aaron in the land of [a]Egypt, 2 “This month shall be the beginning of months for you; it is to be the first month of the year to you. 3 Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying, ‘On the tenth of this month they are each one to take a [b]lamb for themselves, according to their fathers’ households, a [c]lamb for [d]each household. 4 Now if the household is too small for a [e]lamb, then he and his neighbor nearest to his house are to take one according to the [f]number of persons in them; according to [g]what each man should eat, you are to [h]divide the lamb. 5 Your [i]lamb shall be an unblemished male a year old; you may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6 [j]You shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month, then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel is to kill it [k]at twilight. 7 Moreover, they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel [l]of the houses in which they eat it. 8 They shall eat the flesh that same night, roasted with fire, and they shall eat it with unleavened bread [m]and bitter herbs. 9 Do not eat any of it raw or boiled at all with water, but rather roasted with fire, both its head and its legs along with its entrails. 10 And you shall not leave any of it over until morning, but whatever is left of it until morning, you shall burn with fire. 11 Now you shall eat it in this manner: with your loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste—it is the Lord’s Passover. 12 For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments—I am the Lord. 13 The blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you [n]live; and when I see the blood I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you [o]to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.


Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender [a]shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should [b]be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of [c]sorrows and acquainted with [d]grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

4 Surely our [e]griefs He Himself bore,
And our [f]sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
[g]Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was [h]pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our [i]well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To [j]fall on Him.

7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the [k]living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.

10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, [l]putting Him to grief;
If [m]He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His [n]offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the [o]good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the [p]anguish of His soul,
He will see [q]it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out [r]Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.  END Isaiah53

My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?
[b]Far from my deliverance are the words of my [c]groaning.
2 O my God, I cry by day, but You do not answer;
And by night, but [d]I have no rest.
3 Yet You are holy,
O You who [e]are enthroned upon the praises of Israel.
4 In You our fathers trusted;
They trusted and You delivered them.
5 To You they cried out and were delivered;
In You they trusted and were not [f]disappointed.

6 But I am a worm and not a man,
A reproach of men and despised by the people.
7 All who see me [g]sneer at me;
They [h]separate with the lip, they wag the head, saying,
8 “[i]Commit yourself to the Lord; let Him deliver him;
Let Him rescue him, because He delights in him.”

9 Yet You are He who brought me forth from the womb;
You made me trust when upon my mother’s breasts.
10 Upon You I was cast from [j]birth;
You have been my God from my mother’s womb.

11 Be not far from me, for [k]trouble is near;
For there is none to help.
12 Many bulls have surrounded me;
Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me.
13 They open wide their mouth at me,
As a ravening and a roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water,
And all my bones are out of joint;
My heart is like wax;
It is melted within [l]me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
And my tongue cleaves to my jaws;
And You lay me [m]in the dust of death.
16 For dogs have surrounded me;
[n]A band of evildoers has encompassed me;
[o]They pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I can count all my bones.
They look, they stare at me;
18 They divide my garments among them,
And for my clothing they cast lots.

19 But You, O Lord, be not far off;
O You my help, hasten to my assistance.
20 Deliver my [p]soul from the sword,
My only life from the [q]power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion’s mouth;
From the horns of the wild oxen You answer me.

22 I will tell of Your name to my brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.
23 You who fear the Lord, praise Him;
All you [r]descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,
And stand in awe of Him, all you [s]descendants of Israel.
24 For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
Nor has He hidden His face from him;
But when he cried to Him for help, He heard.

25 From You comes my praise in the great assembly;
I shall pay my vows before those who fear Him.
26 The [t]afflicted will eat and be satisfied;
Those who seek Him will praise the Lord.
Let your heart live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord,
And all the families of the nations will worship before [u]You.
28 For the kingdom is the Lord’s
And He rules over the nations.
29 All the [v]prosperous of the earth will eat and worship,
All those who go down to the dust will bow before Him,
Even he who [w]cannot keep his soul alive.
30 [x]Posterity will serve Him;
It will be told of the Lord to the coming generation.
31 They will come and will declare His righteousness
To a people who will be born, that He has performed it.  END ps22


In the writings Of Paul We see there is yet more to the depth of Jesus sacrifice.
In the Old Testament there is currently some confusion over the translation of Azazel in Leviticus 16.8 , which relates to the second goat. 
Some modern scholars say King James translation wrongly translated Azazel as meaning scapegoat.

Wikipedia - Scapegoat




The word 'scapegoat' is an English translation of the Hebrew azazel (Hebrew: עזאזל) which occurs in Leviticus 16:8. The lexicographer Gesenius[1] and Brown–Driver–Briggs Hebrew Lexicon[2] give la-azazel (Hebrew: לעזאזל) as a reduplicative intensive of the stem azel "remove", hence la-azazel, "for entire removal". This reading is supported by the Greek Old Testament translation as "the sender away (of sins)".

Alternatively, broadly contemporary with the Septuagint, the pseudepigraphical Book of Enoch may preserve Azazel as the name of a fallen angel.[3][4][5]

"And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures."[6]

English Christian Bible versions traditionally follow the translation of the Septuagint and Latin Vulgate which interpret azazel as "the goat that departs" (Greek tragos apopompaios, "goat sent out", Latin caper emissarius, "emissary goat"). William Tyndale rendered the Latin as "(e)scape goat" in his 1530 Bible. This translation was followed by following versions up to the King James Version of the Bible in 1611: "And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scapegoat."[7] Several modern versions however either follow the reading as a demon, Azazel, or footnote "for Azazel." as an alternative reading.

Jewish sources in the Talmud (Yoma 6:4,67b) give the etymology of azazel as a compound of az, strong or rough, and el, mighty, that the goat was sent from the most rugged or strongest of mountains.[8] From the Targums onwards the term azazel was also seen by some rabbinical commentators as the name of a Hebrew demon, angelic force, or pagan deity.[9] The two readings are still disputed today.[10]
The scapegoat was a goat that was designated (Hebrew לַעֲזָאזֵֽל ) la-aza'zeyl; "for absolute removal", (for symbolic removal of the people's sins with the literal removal of the goat) and outcast in the desert as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement, that began during the Exodus with the original Tabernacle and continued through the times of the temples in Jerusalem. END QUOTES

What does this tell us?
The very same devil who muddies the waters and who keeps us from ever finding out about our true identity as Vessels or containers, for one divinity power or the other.....not least in our day , by disavowing spirit altogether by virtue of a skilfully woven science teaching that says only what is seen and testable is true. So the essence of us is now taught as the biology of us, two hemispheres of the brain.

Why should this be such an issue? Because Day of Atonement teaching in the Spirit, if not in Judaism, is the rediscovery of the FULL NATURE of the deliverance Jesus has wrought on our behalf.

Some of the clearest teaching is presented by Sylvia Pearce here in the earlier post
Two Deliverances at the Cross

What we can see though is as ever a muddying of the waters, but both sides are not wrong.
One emphasises the practice of scapegoat, the other declares deliverance from this being known as Azazel, or place named after this spiritual entity.

What Paul is preaching is that God's salvation includes the death and carrying away of the old man, the old me. Which is why none of us are duty bound to sin anymore.We begin this mystery of walking Christ in my members as me, by faith. And what begins in the cold as "faith" without sight, is confirmed to me by the Spirit with a flow of new creation life, and inner knowing.
Christ in us the hope of glory.

The Levitical priesthood was one complete infrasctructure. But God quite deliberately chose Jesus out of the tribe of Judah. He was not a Levite.

Hebrews 7.12 For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also. 13 For the one concerning whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord [f]was descended from Judah, a tribe with reference to which Moses spoke nothing concerning priests. 15 And this is clearer still, if another priest arises according to the likeness of Melchizedek, 16 who has become such not on the basis of a law of [g]physical requirement, but according to the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is attested of Him,

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”

according to the power of an indestructible life  is exactly related to Jesus saying
I have come that you may have life, and life more abundantly.

Happy Easter

Thursday, 19 January 2012

Letter to Arthur and Denise Blessitt

Arthur and Denise,
I've just come out of  a hernia op after tossing pianos for 30 years. Interestingly I was born in Ghana to British
science teacher parents with a pyloric stenosis, a block in my stomach. I now have a scar from my birth running into
another scar where they did the hernia. I am a human zip.
Why is this all relevant? Well a subtle change has to occur concerning the Cross and the Church.
Watch this. In Revelation it says how the Word is sweet to the taste, but in the stomach it is exceedingly bitter.
As a broad generalisation the Church for 2000 years has taken the "sweet pill" of the cross, the forgiveness, the amazing free grace
of Christ ....but as it was ingested, this Word was never carried through all the digestion system. There has been a blockage.
The church has had a pyloric stenosis....and who knows...even a hernia.
Our perception of the Cross has been the blood of Christ. But ask anyone during a communion what on earth
the bread is about, and you'll find everyone's eyebrows become furrowed? Or at best some well instructed Bible lover
will return a reply which is straight off the top of his head. Straight out of his thinking, but absolutely no revelation at all.
As a general rule, nobody  "gets" Galations 2:20. The I have been crucified with Christ bit.
Even on TBN you should be fine talking about the forgiveness through the Blood of Christ, but go any further and you'll get problems.
I have confidence in you guys, that you have taken the Cross further. That it is not merely a forgiveness emblem to you.
Jesus took every single one of us, every last trace of the whole Adamic order into death in His Body. We were all there.
We talk of God's love, but actually Jesus set His face. He was ruthless. He so hated Arthur Denise and Chris that, without asking
us beforehand, before we ever knew anything about it, He pulled all of us into His Body death with Him and took us all to the Eternal municipal
waste dump, and incase there were any signs of life and struggle, kept us in His death for 3 whole days. He finished us completely.
Then the Father made a sign to the Holy Spirit to come and give life to His mortal Body. Only, Jesus caught us up in Him as well.
And the Greek for "hidden with Christ in God" is "interleaved" like the Viennetta ice creams Denise will know. We are so interleaved with Christ
nobody has a clue where He starts and we finish. And this is the meaning behind John 17. This is the Body death of the Communion.
This is the anchor we have in Hebrews which means we're gonna make it as Christians.
Except nobody knows.Somehow Arthur you knew. Cant understand how on earth you picked that up in the States?
 They know about the forgiveness bit and like a sweet morsel of food they ingest that bit, but virtually the whole church leaves it at that. That is all they know. Somehow Arthur, you picked up it was more than that. You see unless the Word passes
right through us,and is fully ingested, the world never sees Christ in Arthur and Denise form walking around. All they see is sinner Arthur and Denise continuallyasking forgiveness from one Sunday to the next. And this is why it is so hard to get more evangelists. Because, as marvellous as it is to be forgiven, you are still the same sinners, even though born again, and you feel fraudulent going around telling people about a salvation that only half works. So this is why Rheinhard Bonnke, Morris Cerullo and yourselves waste so much energy trying to raise
up evangelists. it's exhausting.
Jesus has a better plan. Kill them all and raise them on the 3rd day!  How ruthless!
Yes, but how effective!. And 3000 were added the first day.
But Arthur wasnt working up a sweat trying to raise more evangelists! Nope. On the day of Acts Arthur was nowhere to be seen
but somehow God still managed it!
Understand I have the highest respect for you guys, but I'm just trying to sharpen you as you go round with the most lethal
of all weapons....the Cross.
Chris Welch