We loved the London meetings in the 70s in the big halls .
What could be better , loads of brethren looking like the 12 apostles , all relating with each other and baptised in the Spirit ?
This had to be like a repeat of Acts 2 no ?
Many charismatic conferences have left people with the same impression .
But no .
The 12 in the Bible had been trained by God come in the flesh
Who had only got Baptised in the Spirit a few weeks earlier .....
This Jesus was training them.....off the Genesis 3 lie .....showing them Spirit protocols , but living with them practically 24/7.....however it worked with their families .
They lived community . 42 months including being involved in His death and then resurrection and ascension .
Now we lived in Bible House .
We sought God .
We experienced the Presence of the Lord as we met and as we met in the larger church .
Many of the young people wanted to sneak into some of our gatherings as a house , and as they got older many went through Bible House too .
But it still wasn't 3rd level .
In Fishers Pond Community they were a lot more overt about it being Third Feast .....
but it got destroyed over one last matter that both their churches nor ours addressed .
The first and secondlevel Christian propensity to build in pyramids .
Two pastors fought each other and Fishers Pond was no more ....as a community .
The pub and the pond opposite are still there .
We can be like Israel .....all dispersed
Or we can be like the 3 tribes when Jesus came .....still pushing the same old same old .....in Charismatic Christianity it's the same old same old things that never bring proper freedom because they don't ever address Genesis 3.
They are ever thinking up new methods of Aladdins Lamp rubbing to get the genie .....the Holy Spirit .
Watchman Nee felt to start what we in our churches called Bible Houses .
If you are not already aware , Watchman Nee pretty well maps out everything apostolic for the first time since Bible days .
He's missing great power. His black and white dog story is starting to get towards Norman Grubb , but still far too Taoist a storyline , even though he really lived the foundation of the modern Melchizedek Order rediscovery .
His " normal " books are seminal .
Release of the Spirit starts to redefine things that don't come across so clearly in Norman Grubb.
Sit Walk Stand is the first modern three stage of growth book .
Song of Songs comes from teachings of Madam Guyon, Jessie Penn Lewis and Margaret Barber .
What Shall this Man do starts to break down what Norman would continue in Yes I Am .
Ed Miller , Basilea Schlink and Jack Schisler all ministered the first love for Jesus message .
Having penetrated the heavens and learned the praise and worship protocols , not just on an individual basis like the Merlin Carruthers books , but as the blueprint for real ekklesia in the order of Melchizedek , Ed's vision for Bible Houses was training people in revival Presence . Sometimes his Bible Houses were the epicentre of the local revivals .
Like the vision for IHOP , Ed was all about the seeking God message , waiting upon God . Since the Hebrew for waiting is " active entwining " , or like psalm 84, exchanging strength .
Blessed are the men whose strength is in Thee .
Bible Houses were the churches first real steps in modern times for the work of the Holy Spirit to " overshadow " people to bring forth the Manchild .
This Revelation 12 description is really the Spirit perception of what Jesus was doing .
It's what the holy place is .
If it was a partical accelerator , it's the splatting engine .....it's the revving room that re engineers what we are in the natural .....
The Bible calls us " you worm Jacob ......you shall be a threshing sledge ".
We don't come out of Bible Houses manslaughtering all local villages ....we come out , as 1 John 1 says , with a testimony of Jesus .
We have touched tasted , handled this personal Word of Christ that has been spoken to us in many different forms . We have believed upon it until some measure is active in our Word we share .
R Edward Miller was AOG , so we trained in praying for healing , facing difficult situations , all the while that our Jacob ....the us that nobody wants to face , starts emerging . And now after Norman Grubb, we should be even more specific than we were in the light of Ed Miller and Jorge Pradas.( Montse Pradas , Nuria Pradas )
Until our generation there has never been a generation so lasar focussed on what Genesis 3 is and how it operates . Without that Spirit definition we will never get our meetings into the rest of the City.
Book of Ezra has to be rolled out into Book of Nehemiah .
The carnal world works with only a trowel .
We work with a sword and a trowel .
Learning to do this takes longer than the world system who are all compartmentalised , all perched on the grand pyramid and all building Lucifer's kingdom .
Our sword is unearthing and severing the Satan - I from the operation .
Non born again church is the world . It's what occult people call the " good side of the system ", usually with sacrifices being conducted underneath , or after hours or in close passageways near the church building .
Born again and charismatic churches don't fully get Romans 6 and 7, and Genesis 3.
We are training in Holy Spirit protocols and the gifts of the Spirit ....but if we don't occupy our houses , and that's a Manchild term or a Galatians 2.20 term or a wise virgin with loads of oil term .....
Then we have seen repeatedly what happens with charismatics in history . They get sucked off towards esoterics . Solomon got drawn off to Egypt and magic , and freemasons to this day aspire to his rituals for " gaining help from powers " , read ....being used as an avatar by Satan to move his purposes forward while he tosses a few trinkets your way ......which often includes the rape of innocent lives .
Until our generation there has never been a generation so lasar focussed on what Genesis 3 is and how it operates .
All of us have to take our mind to the Cross .
The Bible warns us that the message begins in our mouth as sweet like honey , but in the end it is exceedingly bitter .....like a woman in travail .
This is when congregations turn back .
This is when people become bitter .
This is why Jesus says " Abide in My Word because if you do then you are truly My disciples ......."
These furnaces burn something ....and when there's nothing left to burn .....things start turning around .
If people have some experience of this in Bible Houses or maybe in the future , like Jesus and the disciples , actually as ministry teams .....they will be better practiced at sticking out the real painful bits .
Two things have to happen .
One . The Bible never says one leader has to take on a whole church's problems . There's no such thing as a modern concept of a pastor in the Bible .
It's gross hubris that a man or woman thinks they have the necessary Word to bring through a room full of people in God . God Himself only had 12 .
All of us need a whole plethora of ministries, gifts and direct encounter , as well as our whole life training . ( Just to recap 1 Corinthians 12 is gifts , ministries , operations / direct encounters. Paul writes 3 lists of around 14 different ministries ).
So the first thing is we need many third level elders so we don't have this stupid 70% USA burnout of failed Marvel comic superheroes .
Point two is we pray the Father so He dynamites out workers . So there's a Jerusalem Gate process to get ministry to the third level in 1 John 2 or in power and authority terms to Gate 11, the double portion of Gate 6. Gate 11 is the double portion gate of Ephraim and Gate 6 is the Fountain Gate of baptism in the Spirit .
We know Gate 11 exists because we see that mantle on the great ones we write about . John G Lake , Smith Wigglesworth , George Jeffries , Reinhard Bonnke. If not in power gifts , in the train of influence we see Ern Baxter , George H Warnock , Watchman Nee , Hudson Taylor , George Mueller .
There's a grain offering .
There's an oil offering .
There's an acacia box mover and shaker and there's Khavod might and power .
Jesus spent 30 years on the acacia box ....or muddy field with the treasure in and 42 months in the baptism of the Spirit and Khavod Presence when He ministered .
In some shape or form God directs Bible Houses .
Or Bob Gordon's idea of evangelism training on the hoof , see my recent blog post in comments .
Bible Houses , like Jesus creating a core , form the core of the future ekklesia in one locality .
Monasteries were very ' first level ' . They weren't up to getting people out again .
Bible Houses were second level and still too reliant upon meetings .
What Jesus was training was thirdlevel and only because He as a man , leaving His glory aside , had trained for 30 years acknowledging God in all His ways and never succumbed to the Genesis 3 fantasy of a self empowered middle man.
This is a post about the "middle realm", the contest for the Holy Place, the fight and struggle that goes on in the "second heaven" and the surprising realisation that at least a part of that realm, and the key part is inside us. We're going in via Andre Rabe, via Carol Decker and via a song of mine.We're going to learn what the "fullness of the times "is and the present reality of the typology of the Tabernacle.You'll never think quite the same about the Parable of the Sower either. From the Chapter "Apprehended" from Secret Of Contentment ISBN 978-0-9563346-0-2 - Andre RabeWhat is this strange ... yet familiar attraction
this awareness of Your person that draws me beyond myself
It's not a desire for pleasure or any type of reward
it's a hand upon my spirit that pulls me toward
a consciousness of our union
without distraction.
What will You say ...
Where will You take me ...
You are utterly unpredictable yet completely dependable
and I revel in this uncertain security.
Uncertain, because You continually surprise me.
Secure, because I'm at home in Your embrace.
The more intimate our acquaintance
the greater the intrigue
of Your boundless person and infinite mind.
Here I belong; here I will abide.
I found the secret of satisfaction
yet there remains this mysterious magnetism
to explore Your height and depth,
to open my spirit eyes as wide as You.
And as I experience a vision of Your greatness,
I expand beyond the narrow confines
of earthly logic and my natural mind
to perceive what cannot be understood
and know for certain what cannot be explained.
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This morning I felt to write on Facebook:
Brokenness is a phrase Gene Edwards and Ed Miller used a lot. I think it's a secondlevel word. We're in a new generation now. It gave too much prominence to the pot. I think Daniel Yordy's diagram is far more accurate.How many remember the lyrics of China in Your Hand by Carol Decker of T'pau?Lyric writer Carol Decker explained that it is the effect that if you hold a china cup to a light, you can see your hand through it - therefore 'china in your hand' means something that is transparent.[1]
China in Your Hand
From the album Bridge of Spies by T'Pau
Written by Carol Decker and Ron Rogers...
It was a theme she had
On a scheme he had
told in a foreign land
To take life on earth
To the second birth
and the man was in
command
It was a flight on the wings
Of a young girls dreams
That flew too far away
And we could make the monster live again
Oh hands move and heart beat on
Now life will return in this electric storm
A prophecy for a fantasy
The curse of a vivid mind
Don't push too far
Your Dreams are china in your hand
Don't wish too hard
Because they may come true
And you can't help them
You don't know what you might
Have set upon yourself
China in your hand
Come from greed
Never born of the seed
Took life from a barren hand
On eyes wide
Like a child in the form of a man
A story told
A mind of his own
An omen for our time
We take a flight on the wings of fantasy
Then you push too far
And make your dreams reality
Yeah! china in your hand
But they're only dreams
And you shouldn't push too far
When asked what the lyrics meant, Ron Rogers co-writer said he wasn't sure, but Carol said it's about Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein"..... So it's saying something like : what originally began as a theme in an author's mind could in these days of genetics take on outer form as we juggle around with life itself. We could make the monster live again.
But on another level this speaks of
that diaphanous layer below the conscious mind that conjures our future, that draws our future to itself. It can and MUST be invaded by the Holy Spirit, lest we draw to ourselves many outer forms of the monster that was always the design of the devil to draw to earth. But conversely He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world. Here world means kosmos(Greek): the limited world of those (as Ern preaches) moral intelligences submitted to the devil's lying reign.
Can I briefly press this home as it is related to the scheme of this post?
Our first position as non-Christians is to ignore or possibly categorically deny any Devil. This is falsehood.
Our second position as Christians , and more so Spirit-filled Christians, is to absolutely be aware of the devil. He can scare us witless...and we like many Christians go around spouting about the "god of this world", thinking world means the same one God created and includes everything within it. This too is falsehood.
As Ern preached: The Earth is the Lord's and the Fullness thereof.
The more we "see" God in all, even and especially the bad things, the more we pull the rug out from underneath the devil's slender and lying claim to how things are run on Earth. But this seeing goes on underneath our conscious thought level. It's our instinctive level. It's where we really "see" everything in our life from.
Here's three examples of people who outwardly are one thing but underneath something is going on that affects them more, one positive two negative:
A man I tune for lives in a large house in a large wooded acreage near Ascot. It is near London.It is not too far from the Queen's outer London residence in Windsor and Windsor great park. You can only imagine the cost of such a house and property. He loves landscaping his property and adding lovely features. Every time I go there is something new. Yet this man is sad. Not at the surface level, but underneath. He seems to live a life of total depression. Possibly, because he knows all his money comes from shredding flesh- or the manufacture of weapons to kill people efficiently. And, up until recently, this involved virtually blank cheques from our government.
Meanwhile, when I visited Kenya in 86, my parents and I were taken for a tour round a hillside forested property by the 16 year old daughter of a Salvation Army Captain who was mostly absent and working among the slums of Nairobi. The daughter was virtually a second mother to his children. She was not bitter. She had a beautiful, pure spirit. Her inner eye which shone out of her outer eye was bright and beaming.They had virtually no money, yet at any time as she did with us, she could pull down the most amazing bananas, lemons,limes,oranges and mangoes fresh from their trees. The water in their stream was crystal clear and fresh, and they lived in a small community of neighbours who shared responsibility between them for care of the children, when others were at work or needed to study.
Stephen Fry is constantly referred to as our national treasure as one of the most articulate and knowledgeable of souls, yet at the level I refer to in this post he is constantly riding the rollercoaster of a bi-polar condition. There is always the danger that too soon there will not be a Stephen Fry.
Finally, in this introduction, where I am collecting together component materials, I want to refer to the post's title. My only connection with Carol Decker of T'pau is to do with a particular song I wrote called "Give It all You've Got." Originally it was written with Carol in mind because it is the same theme as a lot of T'Pau's songs, and also apart from Suzi Quattro, she was one of the only sassy female vocalists you used to hear back in the 80s. It was just prior to Margaret Becker's emergence with Charlie Peacock.
My song was written during the optimistic period of "The Only Way is Up" by Yazz, and it was in this period some of us were discovering the heady atmosphere of multilevel marketing or MLM with Companies such as Amway. Just as America has taken team power to a totally new level in recent centuries, the discovery that marketing needn't always be linear but could be multi layered, revolutionised the whole way sales could be operated. So , in less jargon, instead of having a traditonal marketing force with one sales manager managing a traditional pyramid of a line of salesmen under him....you can have an infinitely(almost) changing layered pyramid of sales people each earning commission from those they have in turn told and explained the product to.
This is the simple genius behind 2 tells 2 who tell 2 who tell 2 who tell 2, and pretty soon you are living from a small commission payment coming from an awful lot of people.
As people's jaws drop to think that I could ever be involved with such a thing, I'll move on after just these sentences.
MLM is mathematics;neither good nor evil. It is democratic, because anybody can have a team under them. When the marketplace becomes flooded, you pick another innovation or productline and start again.
MLM cannot function well while each and every individual is living in self for self mode.MLM referred to this as "survival mode". MLM only works in self for others mode, what MLM called "contribution" mode. Having just read "Yes I am" by Norman Grubb, I couldn't believe what these business people were saying. Not to put too fine a point on it, in the late 80s and 90s like Caleb and Joshua we saw the future, but it was ripped away from us because carnal minds labelled the system as evil, without seeing that what was evil was the compounded spirit of self for self that was evil. The system itself just is. 2times 2 times 2 times 2 times 2 times a monthly commission of say £50 from each makes £16000, whether it's a Christian £16000 or a mafia £16000. But that isn't what this post is about.
When I came to record "The Blood Song" on my double CD I wanted a section encouraging a response to this, so I wrote to Carol Decker to see if she'd be up for it. I made my position clear, and as a Leftie Labour agnostic/atheist she made hers clear, so it never happened. Helen Burgess of Ellel Ministries helped me instead. The song then leads into a psalm Francois Du Toit quoted a few weeks ago :Psalm 36
Youtube notes:First written for Carol Decker of T'Pau during the heady days of Multi Level Marketing and Yazz "the Only Way is UP" Give It All eventually ended up sandwiched on my CD1 of Early Harvest as part of a long track entitled the Blood Song. It ends with a version of Psalm 36(dated22/7/94) that came during a time of waiting on God.. Band includes Nick Beggs of Kajagoogoo and Iona, and also musical director of Belinda Carlisle on bass,Steve Cyster on guitar, John Graham (Rev James Graham's son and friend of Roy Castle" Recordbreakers") and Helen Burgess of Ellel Ministries sharing vocals with me AC Welch, recorded at River Studios London 1997 and Mango studios Chichester 1998.
The Holy of Holies
Ephesians 1 and 2 and Colossians 1 are an open proclamation of the secret hidden for ages, namely Christ in Us the Hope of Glory.
These passages are Spirit passages. They are Life and Truth. They are not religious niceties. They are reality and Spirit reality is infinitely more real than anything a few molecules with massive holes between them could contain. Our present material world has more gaps in between the substance than substance.
They are the FIRST thing that we as mature Christians, by the Spirit, by the supernatural gift of utterance lay in the lives of one day old believers.
The incomparable Christ :- Colossians 1:13-29
And because he is who He is, he has caught us up together with Him.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.
It is a gift. It is not of ourselves. It is lavished on us.He has caught us up into
"an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth." From a throne point of view the fullness of the times was the point in history when everything turned on its hinge. The hinge was the Cross. The intersection of glory and judgment. We do not say "who will go up for us?" or "who will go down into hell for us". It was a done deal at that precise time. This was the fullness of times.
When we get caught up in Christ's reality we are being caught up in what is eternally true : The fullness of the times. And we are told what that is.
The summing up of all things in Christ.....hmmmm....things in the heavens....and things on the earth.... like as if they were one thing ? Before this they were never one thing.
Psalm 85
In the 70s I got 3 songs from Psalm 84 and 85. I wasn't looking for them. They landed on me !
One was from Psalm 85: 8-9 RSV Bible: Let me hear what God the LORD will speak,
for he will speak peace to his people,
to his saints, to those who turn to him in their hearts.
[9] Surely his salvation is at hand for those who fear him,
that glory may dwell in our land.
And it goes on
[10] Steadfast love and faithfulness will meet;
righteousness and peace will kiss each other.
[11] Faithfulness will spring up from the ground,
and righteousness will look down from the sky.
This is connected with the ladder ascending into heaven that Jacob saw, and the subject of this series Psalm 24.
Note:1) it is God's NORM that glory may dwell...remain...hang around....on our land.
2) God speaks PEACE to His people. What peace? The peace of Ephesians 1 and 2. The dividing wall of hostility is broken down. He Himself has made peace. Peace between the rebellious person and the right demands of the Law and Covenants. Peace between Gentiles and God. Peace between the sons of the covenant , the Jews, and those who were far off (us Gentiles) who have now been brought near.
3).How can God be sure Faithfulness will spring/is springing up from the ground. Transplanting the seed of the Kingdom is nothing less than Christ Himself. Having come here and overcome as a Man, Jesus comes again in the Person of the Holy Spirit into every single believer....He is faithful, and it is His faithfulness springing forth in believers who learn the truths of grace and the reality of Jesus living our life as us.
4) All these things are NORMAL for those who turn and keep on turning to the Living God who speaks this peace, and they turn in their hearts. It is a heart religion. "Out of the heart flow the issues/ the outflowing rivers of life."
The KINGDOM is NOW
We don't preach a Kingdom that is future. We preach the Eternal Now. We preach the I AM.
God refers to Himself as the I am...because it's like a blank cheque. He can be for us all things. He can be for us what we need for Him to be right now.
"The Kingdom is near you even in your mouth."
We believe in our heart, we confess with our mouth.
The Practice Run In 1972 we asked ourselves some big questions. How do we ever get to the bigger picture of revival? God answered totally (we felt) counter-intuitively by teaching us the way into His Presence through praise and worship. I was thinking this week about my attitude at the time .
I think I felt I was doing God a favour by learning to praise Him. But the more we obeyed in this, what started out as a "new liberating activity" soon became a door on a whole new world.
A way of being.
A conversation.
A language.
A Presence of the Holy One Himself.
The more we learned the less we knew. The cocksure way of presenting ourselves in praise and worship activity gave way to an increasing sense of awe that we'd ever been invited to this party in the first place. Yes definitely the more we learned the less we knew.
In Amersham in little house gatherings, then in Paderborn,Germany with a new German friend who had just returned from travelling with Judson Cornwall (trained by Ed Miller) through to a "coincidental" personal arrival later in Emsworth Church where Ed Miller was at that time a frequent visitor , we were learning that there are stages we pass through even in worship meetings. Here, I am talking about meetings with "flow"....not the micromanaged meetings where songlists dominate, or where "anointed" showmen do their entertainment spots. I mean meetings where the I AM God is actually no.1 on the agenda.
Helen Rubio has spoken of the 1st , 2nd and 3rd heaven realms where we enter into God's Presence. We enter into His courts with praise. We praise because it is a command. No matter what is going on.No matter how we feel. Not some sort of Hitler command, because we are responding to God first loving us. He instigated our ability to have a relationship with Him. But particularly because we are fallen beings, we awaken from our slumberous state where we slip back into blaming God for our situation, we rise up and speak the truth again...that at all times He truly is worthy of praise. He just is. He is glorious and cannot help it!!!
There are often extraordinary battles in meetings at this point, but as we press through this "2nd heaven" waging warfare against soupy,heavy,treacle like atmospheres, it is like a plane rising through the clouds breaking into God's eternal sunshine again. You can often feel exactly the point where a meeting changes gear. And from here we are able to get direction for the rest of the meeting.
Now, if we pray for somebody, it is from a position of inner knowing that we are seated with Christ in the heavenly places. It's a different kind of prayer!
What I particularly want to highlight is the nature of these Amersham,Paderborn,Emsworth and now Havant Key of David meetings. After praise , so many times there is a time of intimacy "one on one" us and Jesus,but together. In the Argentinian manner we would seek Him on our face. Deep issues in our lives would be touched. Many would cry. Deep spiritual mysteries may suddenly become clear. Stunningly clear direction for problems that have long eluded us.New songs. Paticularly in Emsworth, some of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard came right here among something like ten of us particularly, or from sister churches in this way in Argentina,Spain and France. We never really sang UK songs, we had too many of our own.
Gradually we'd be up on our feet again but this time the worship would be purer,deeper...just more awesome.
Why I want to highlight this particular section of the meetings is particularly relevant for our discussion of Psalm 24. Remember,this was the practice run. This was the meeting version of what we are now to live fulltime in opening up the gates for our King!!!
What is that time on our face before God?Sometimes an extended silence, or being quiet while an instrument plays softly? What is contemplation? Meditation?
Let's answer obliquely with this parameter. It's the Holy Place. Not the Holiest Place yet. It's the middle place. Absolutely anyone can enter into the courts of the Lord. Only priests enter the Holy place. We have all been made priests but only in Christ by the Holy Spirit's power. Now in the Holy place there are NO WINDOWS. This is not a place for natural wisdom and light. This is a place of revelation. Of light coming from the candlestick. From the Holy Spirit.
This is also the place of the Shewbread. This is the place where 3rd level/father level ministries impart Jesus to those in the second stage of growth. Eating the shewbread, is related to the eating of the Body of Christ. The Blood cuts us off from our past and brings total cleansing to us. Eating the Body of Christ is literally nourishing ourselves with the Truth of who Christ has now made us. We have died. This false illusion of having a separate exstence - being self-empowered, which was really always Satan-I, has died too. We now become increasingly aware of our total Union with Christ. This is where we learn it. This is where we get nourished. This is Christ becoming us, from our insides out. see Psalm 45:13NASV "The King's daughter etc..."This is why, even in these meetings, when we get up again, when we enter deeper into worship, we feel cleaner, transformed, lighter inside. We find it easier to worship unhindered. I want to talk about this precise thing but in the wider context outside of meetings.
The Israelites had "practice runs" too. Their wilderness experience was a practice run for the Land. The walk they developed (or didn't) in the place of harsh conditions and lack, built into them the inner qualities needed for going properly into action later.
Jericho was a practice run. Yes ofcourse it was also the real thing....but spiritually, having to walk silently round a city six times and on the seventh holler and blow trumpets...was all a practice run for what they would STILL DO spiritually but next time with natural equipment too. They had to learn it was not the natural equipment that was saving them!!!
Another spiritual practice run was in Chronicles when the army had to stand still and see the salvation of their God....only allowed to use the method of praise!!!
In the practice runs we develop the internal sense of the Presence of God, of our conversation with God which is a language of the interior. It cannot really be articulated. It is like a catching fire on your insides.
TheREAL THING
The real thing is a people who have developed in the Holy Place, the 2nd stage of "young men" as it says in 1 John 2:12 ff, and are now fixed in their knowing. They KNOW that they are Christ in their form, their personalities, their bodies and now they become walking talking representatives of all the furniture and typology that we see in the Holy of Holies, the third stage of growth as Paul describes in the book of Hebrews.They go into action with their armour as in Ephesians 6:10.
We take a break while Nancy Gilmore shares some very interesting impressions on Facebook.
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"His body is on location for Christ" Nancy Gilmore
speaking of Bryan Coatney and his poetry." I see that's what our body is. It is a Temple for the Living God to live in and through on location . . a branch which the sap hatches it's fruit on. The Lord showed me my body once in a vision, I could see through my body, it was transparent. I could see out of both sides of my head with limitless ends, and I saw scales falling off my eyes through the back of my head and down my back with my neck and jaws being fixed in a locked position. . .and I was soaring upward. As God would have it, I just happened to be alone with Norman Grubb as we were talking about being 'whole' people in the Lord. When I saw the vision I said to Norman. OH Norman, I just saw myself in ascension! As calm as could be, he replied. "Oh my dear, that was Christ as you!" END
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Every church meeting that runs genuinely in the Holy Spirit is WEEKLY proof that the "place " that Jesus has prepared for us is in fact HERE, NOW. The fullness of the times is here. The Kingdom is here. We just don't perceive it. Which is why Jesus gives us a framework in which to learn it. What would that be?
When two or three are gathered in My Name, I will be with them. But when we go apart? When the meeting is over, nothing has changed. The Kingdom is no less among us. It's just our perception.
So where is this all happening then? And what are the gates that need lifting up for the King of Glory to come In ? Jesus spoke of roots and soil and WORD.
The Parable of the Sower Re- examinedMark 4:1-20Matthew 13:1-23Luke 8:1-15
Many of us that were brought up in church would have a cast iron template for this parable. We think in terms of different sorts of people. Even worse than this with religious specs on, we can get to thinking I in my "independent self position "am good soil. I am not like that riffraff over there!
There's a word for this: self-righteousness.At the very least this parable is saying we are nothing without "the seed". And this seed is an entirely grace form of seed. We don't earn it. We don't do anything for it. We don't buy it. The only thing we do is Hear it.
And obey it , but by faith. A faith that comes from the very Divine seed itself.This is grace.
Whether or not this parable does mean different types of people in a born-again grace type understanding, it also is referring to what ONE INDIVIDUAL LIFE has to go through in order to become a John 15 "fruitbearer"
At the beginning we have no ears to hear. Yes, we have flappy things on the side of our head, but no inward capacity to hear. The capacity to hear comes by hearing the Word.
Sometimes it just seems to be a bit of dry head knowledge. I know a lady who got born again in Brighton through the cult "The Children of God". They only preached John's gospel. She was born again through a supernatural encounter with John 3:16." God so loved the world that He gave His only son, that whosoever believed ON Him should have eternal Life." Everyone else just heard words. She heard Word. And Life became Eternal in her. Two weeks after this, her new Life told her to leave that cult immediately.
Later we have Word, but no root. Without root, which is the subject of this post, we have no strength to live that Word. We do a good meeting, but we're not living there full time yet.
So ofcourse, to get us living it full time God gives us another BIG ZAP of anointing and everything is wonderful and we live happily ever after...and we marry the prince or princess and the sun shines for ever more! THE END.
Nope. That's not what the parable of the sower says. The final stage before we get to pure soil is rocky soil, with harsh jagged weeds and thistles. We are told what these are.This time, not so much the previous persecutions, but some things that are more subtle and insiduous:
1. Life's worries
2. Riches
3.Pleasures
For these sort of things, the testings are outside the meeting room. It is NO coincidence at all that there is a whole wave of Christian people worldwide that don't go to church and many are on Facebook.This kind of development doesn't happen anywhere near meetings. This kind of development comes as a Romans 12 "laid down " life goes around in the world and has these great asteroids coming at it Pacman style.
Life's worries are what Norman calls things I don't like. Squeezes. Demands being made of me that I know, looking at my inventory ,I am never going to meet. Ouches. Pinches. But only in that environment do I learn they are in fact God's negatives.
I wasn't long into reading "Yes I am" when I met a Branhamite. (William Branham - the Last great prophet Elijah kind of thing) Now this guy was a former Pentecostal pastor who now had advanced Parkinson's, and consequently could not hold down his previous position...or rather his flock were certain he couldn't! So abandoned, he was now at the mercy of UK Social security.Isn't the Christian life just so loving!
But both he and I believed in healing. I was there tuning many times. I'd seen a lot of healings at the London Morris Cerullo outreaches in the early 90's, so "full of faith" I prayed for him. But ofcourse I wasn't full of faith I was full of enthusiasm from the London meetings, and.....nothing ever happened. Now at this point a "secondleveller" doesn't know how to cope. He's meant to get healed when I pray!!!
Now we know God is doing amazing things in this day, using folk in healing as never before. We also know from Barbara Rogerson's testimony that you can be quietly toddling along learning about Christ as you in normal life situations, when all of a sudden someone transmits to you one of the many transferable anointings that are going around these days. The Toronto Blessing or Father's Blessing was highly transferable!!!! Went right round the UK within weeks. So Barbara began to experience a facility in praying for things the second beforehand she'd never have dreamed of tackling.
In Bible House (see relevant Google label below)some issues surfaced in people's lives that were then dealt with in days or weeks. When they weren't, most were stumped. We were secondlevellers!!! There were longstanding situations that were prayed through and the breakthroughs were pretty outstanding.
However I knew my situation was hopeless in Emsworth and just knew that no leader was going to help. In the end I pressed in myself, and like so many that are on Facebook who have found their answers outside the system, we learned the true meaning of Romans 7 and started to experience our very own Romans 8.
2.Riches and 3.pleasures are very subtle. Because they need not be sin. And many times it is God meaning you to experience these blessings. But as in Judges 7:5, Gideon's 300 distinguished themselves by lapping at the water with cupped hands with one eye open for the enemy, so now God's people are distinguishing themselves by instinctual behaviours that mark them out, give themselves away, as being set apart for the next big operations that are up ahead. Remember, the 30,000 knew of the selection process, the 10,000 had no idea at all!
The key is not to develop behaviours. The Key is to have your Holy Place invaded by the Holy of Holies. To submit to the truths of the "Fullness of Times" and the total victory won for us at the Cross.
The Battle for the Holy Place
1.Why? Because if you are born again Jesus has already completely taken over your spirit.In fact according to the Old Testament twofold image of the 2 goats, you and I have died and our false spirit has been driven into the wilderness never to be seen again. You can't get a more graphic picture of annhililation. We are now Christ-us in our spirit centre. Any deliverance issues or problem issues are not here.This is the Holy of Holies. In you it's where Christ dwells.
2.The Problem is moving heaven from the Holy of Holies(the one inside you) out into the rest of your being.God's got a double technique here. Firstly , the experience of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. This is available on the day you believe...,though most Christian leaders never tell you. And this was no different in Acts.On two occasions the apostles had to ask "Did you receive the Spirit when you believed?" And on both occasions it was a negative reply. So the apostles prayed for the saints and in both instances they knew they were filled and they also began speaking in other languages praise unto God. So there is really no room for controversy here. you know when you are filled and you begin doing things that have no natural explanation. (Yes ,I'm aware psychologists try)
This is clearly not the whole thing though, or else why would there be the Parable of the 10 virgins. All ten had oil. Did you get that. All Ten had oil, but there was another supply that only five bothered purchasing. I believe that is what is being talked about in this post and the parable uses the phrase "I don't know you" of the five with insufficient oil.
Be Lifted Up you gates, be lifted up you ANCIENT doors.
A unique thing is happening in our day. The doors that slammed shut inside people from Adam's day onwards are now being challenged. A few saints saw this thing about "separation" and the need for us to be "single-eyed" again, but today it is being broadcast around the world to those who will hear. In Genesis 3 an existence so spurious, so ridiculous was spun by a lying devil, that it has taken until now, millennia later for numbers to see it. There IS NO separate existence as humans. We are either empowered by a sin spirit or by Christ's own Spirit of Life. Where this became complex was as Christians, who having Christ at their centre, still by their own ignorance or stubborn refusal to hear in the Spirit, carry on in the belief that they are self-empowered people with a bit of Holy Spirit anointing on top (if they're lucky). This one false belief system has disastrous consequences. Just as we could not live the Christian life before asking Jesus in, we still cannot until we acknowledge by faith the existence of One sole Spirit operator beneath our unique personalities and bodies
namely One Jesus Christ. It is not I (at my spirit centre) who live, it is Christ who lives within me, and the life I now live in the flesh I live by THE FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD.
What is revelation?
Revelation is a deeper knowledge than the sort taught in UK schools. Our surface thought patterns/ ways of thinking are best thought of us an amoral tool. Neither good nor bad. Step by step thinking.
Below this is the mesh, the filter system that drives us, that is where we are really at. What is so confusing for the person particularly locked in the "surface of things" is to have a prophet address the bit underneath. When we see in the Spirit, we see clearer and clearer the bit underneath, and we groan within because we know all the surface talk in the world can go on for years or decades, while the sludge underneath remains untouched. So naturally we can't stand the thought of someone having to go on suffering endlessly....so a prophet tends to want to act impulsively and clear the whole (what he she sees as a total waste of years)thing up and be done with it. Ask any prophetic/creative/artistic type and they'll tell you the disruptions they've caused around these types of issues.
Nowadays we are helped by a (slightly) clearer understanding of how our minds work. First the period after Jane Austin's writings, then Freud and Jung, then onto the 1963 book
"The Games People Play" by Eric Berne, and onward to PET brain scans of the current day, people can be helped through deeper issues with courses of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.
But to really know ourselves through and through we Christians say we need the Light of the Holy Spirit. Psalm 36: In His Light we see Light. At this depth surely this is the only safe place for us.
The Holy Place and the Soil
Christians have spent decades attending "healing of the hurts" seminars. Morris Cerullo tends to pooh pooh this type of ministry because of its seeming endless navel-gazing nature. Both are wrong.
Jesus only took 3 years to transplant His life in the twelve disciples. Two things need to happen to move at this speed. We preach the positive of Christ living His life through us. But there has to be an equivalent experience of a Holy Place/ secondlevel period where we at the "young men" stage "take " the overcoming Word of Testimony and loving not our lives unto death make it ours. Become fixed in it. Whether through soaking. Through sensitive Holy Spirit meetings. Through contemplation on our own. In some way, we have to do what Jesus said:
Go into your inner room and SHUT your door....and meet with your Father in the secret place. (more on this in the 1989 3rd level message)
We have to allow Jesus to sift our soil. He wants to KNOW us. To know our Union with Him.
If we are going to be fruitful producers of His seed, that soil needs to be pure, simple soil.
Not Jesus and.
Single-eyed.
Seeing God only .(Rich Novek series)
As Carol Decker sang, we need to be careful about "pushing too far"...we don't know what we might set upon our selves....because in this realm, as Jacob found, we can faith in speckled and striped sheep....but it's not necessarily anything to do with God's higher plan for our lives.
Yongghi Cho faithed in the biggest church building in the world in the 80s having very nearly a million members....
But that's not how God builds churches...
that's how Americans build Ford cars.
God builds the Body by that which every joint supplies. He didn't even specify a building or any kind of externals. God is ONLY interested in transferring Word, transplanting seed.
ScrawlingsEzekiel 8 and especially verse 10
So I went in and looked, and I saw portrayed all over the walls all kinds of crawling things and detestable animals and all the idols of the house of Israel.
Where are we seeing "more than God"?
Fears. Things we don't see God in. Things which appear overwhelming.
Riches/pleasures. The Pride of Life. Areas where we are not saying inwardly Psalm 100:3 It is He who made us and not we ourselves.
Rich Novek, myself and many others have found it so hard that we've all been in circumstances where even what we feel are the basic male roles of supplier, and success model have seemed to be removed from us....big time. I don't know of anything more embarrassing than having my wife fill in a lot of the gaps in these days.
Also, this Saturday I am about to go to my first grammar school reunion after 34 years. Usually only the "successful" ones bother turning up. I'm going for different reasons.
Ed Miller used to say beware the churches that are not a mess. They are the ones where the mess is covered over and is not allowed to show itself. Daniel Garcia one of the main leaders now of Los Rios de Vida, Buenos Aires said a great thing. He said, "at the start of a construction project all the mess is on show, but gradually as construction continues, rooms are created to deal with some of the mess so that after a while disruption is managed better."
Left-brain intellectual reasoning concerning the events surrounding Jesus and the disciples have little sense of meaning. You have to hear these statements in the Spirit. Jesus was slamming wrong spirits that were uttered by the twelve as they happened. His words would have stung like lightning because they were not aimed at their understanding but were fired at this sub-mesh of "wrong seeing" that is like the scrawlings on the wall of the Temple.
Here are some examples:
when they offered to call fire down from heaven on a rebellious (as they saw it) town
"You don't know of which spirit you are"
Wow we're the kiddies we were casting out demons sick were being healed
"Careful, remember I saw Satan himself fall like lightning out of heaven itself because of such pride"
Keep away kids, only grown ups allowed here
"Let the children come for they are a picture of the sort of people that make up the Kingdom."
And so on. Similar to male circumcision , this was circumcision of the heart going on here. Equally if not more painful. Literally ripping down some of the scrawlings from the walls of their Holy Place.
Conclusion
Since the momentous day two or three weeks ago when Daniel Yordy posted his first part of Psalm 24, and I before reading his, had a lot of the revelation above hit me in one fail swoop that very afternoon, perhaps the greatest feature is Daniel's point that our spirit is not buried in our centre but is in all of us. I am not sure about his conclusion that our will is turned over completely to Christ. Probably all our component parts go through stages of yieldedness, maybe three levels of them.
But for those like myself and Rich and possibly earlier Daniel, that came to rockbottom over the fact that we just flat out DID NOT WANT the WILL of GOD no matter how much people tried to reason and sermonise...but we discovered these two incredible verses...
Rich discovered All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if ON SOME POINT YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY (the hinge), THAT TOO GOD WILL MAKE CLEAR TO YOU . Only let us live up to what we have already attained. (Phil 3:15-16)
For me it was the liberation that came from the verse "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." (Philip. 2:13)
There are some that make too big a thing of the work of clearing scrawlings off the wall of the mind. There are some that make too light a thing. The work that Francois Du Toit is doing is to point out that the Word is now to us a Mirror of Christ who has come to live His kind of Life in us.He is going to get us there. That is why Christ'sLife in us is called the (definite/firm) HOPE of GLORY and why the FIRST things that we preach are the basis, the foundation for all else:
The APOSTOLIC FOUNDATIONS and certainties of the Epistles
and especially
Ephesians Chapters 1 and 2 and Colossians 1.
Left-brain Post-Notes
Andre Rabe's poem and the reference to brokenness try to get us beyond the realm of sermons and note-taking, and the traditional talk of how much "brokenness" is occurring...by getting us to concentrate our inward eyes on the Living Jesus, and a very real relationship with Him
Carol Decker's song and the verses of Give It all (my song) are included in order to introduce the idea of a mystical side of our thinking which has the power of drawing into itself what it "sees". That in order to "go for it" (my song again) an internal decision has to be made below our surface thinking.
We need to change our thinking when we refer to "world" and be clear which of two Greek words we mean.
The reality is that the veil was torn in the Temple from top to bottom supernaturally at the very point that Christ died signifying our total acceptance in the HOLY of Holies. When we become born again,Christ comes into our spirit and expels the previous spirit we lived by.This is effectively our Holy of Holies at our centre.
Psalm 85 speaks of the ONE THING that God has joined together out of "things in earth and things in heaven" Ephesians 1 speaks of the peace God has supernaturally created."The walls of hostility are broken down"
The Kingdom is NOW. Our "practice run", particularly in the last 40 years has been learning sensitivity to the Presence of God in Spirit-filled meetings. This has become a reality....but what about outside? The Kingdom is just the same....it's just our perception , "our seeing" that changes.
The level that our "seeing" occurs is in the unseen layer below our conscious thinking, but above our spirit which remains in constant union with Christ. So what we are calling reality at our "seeing" level is really a lie. This is why Jesus said "If the (very)light that is within you turns out to be darkness ....how great is that darkness...in other words can you see how powerful that darkness has been and how it has eluded detection for all this time.
A re-definition of the Parable of the Sower this time as the steps in one life towards becoming a fruitful soil.
Going Into our Inner room to relate with our Father and also to take a good look at the scrawlings on our Temple walls, and removing or replacing them as God gives us instruction
Well here's an incredible thing. The antidote to mass overweight populations: The latest online and Shopping Channel Phenomenon, Bodyweight Training. Three innovations 1. No equipment is required other than perhaps some piece of elastic fabric in some workouts. 2. You can do all this in the privacy of your own home. 3. As long as it is regular and intense it does not have to be long. 4. All exercises can be modified for every type of fitness level and age 5 These are a new generation of workouts which can propel any shape of body and fitness level to admirable fitness in a relative short time.
Science is now supporting evidence that any longer than 20 to 25 minutes can actually be less effective. One of the workouts above is as short as 4 minutes with two extra ones for making a quality smoothie and drinking it . (6 minutes to skinny).
By adopting such rigour before you do anything in the day, you set up your metabolism to be faster at fatburning.
Like all "outside innovations", it's sheer popularity will act as momentum for existing fitness clubs to use similar programmes in their own facilities as group activities.
And if in Fitness centres, why not churches? As outreach?
Why do males not go to church?Church is perceived as irrelevant People claim Jesus is LIFE but don't demonstrate that, but the very opposite The gospel preached is not visceral The gospel preached is largely narrow and not the 12 GATES expansive gospel preached by Jesus encompassing all the 12 disciple's personalities, all the 12 tribes of Israel's facets. The Universality of the message is not perceived The gospel and worship can be perceived as feminine. The gospel as preached in Acts 2 by 12 very different apostles supporting and sustaining each other in unity was demonstrating on every level the life of Jesus lived in real time.
Why was Bible House a popular emblem locally?Casa Biblica's , like Watchman Nee's own vision, was the vision of R. Edward Miller and Jorge Pradas in Argentina, and formed within the crucible of the turbulent Peron years. Bible House Emsworth was and I hope still is a place where men and women put all aside to seek God early.... Many of us put university and careers on hold. The PEER PRESSURE was to seek God and His transformation in our lives. When young men do this together it has a huge knock on effect, much of which we were totally unaware of as we just got on with it.
It is SO NOT THE SOCIAL NORM, it is immediately gobsmacking. It creates and sucks in the next generation in its wake, much like a boat does. It becomes the norm to seek God first and begin to get Him as that thirdlevel God consciousness. Such a body becomes in no small part the RHEMA HUB of a church. Not that others don't join it, but it is a reality in the midst of a church.
MEN AND PRAISE
The link in my mind to the rest of the article is the level of physical fitness many of the young men built up through the sheer repetition of dance and praise and singing simultanously morning and evening. Any chorusline will now how exhausting this can be initially.
In Israel the men dance together at the Feasts. Far from the western perception, male dancing is incredibly visceral and King David really was a man of the future as he ignored his wife Michal's moaning. He danced all the harder. But then if Michal had been through what David had been through to get there she would have understood the miracle!!!
We were a beach head generation among the West. We proved that Praise literally is the way God instructs us to enter His Gates, and sure enough the House of God begins to form itself , manifest itself as we enter His gates with praise and thanksgiving. It's something whenever anybody does this, but a bunch of young men is something else.
According to Psalm 110 According to the 1st Commandment
Nothing can beat a group of males whose firstlove is the LORD...ie not the dancing itself....the Lord Jesus
Who are actually manifesting the first commandment expression of love in real time
Deuteronomy 6:4-5 4 “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one!5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
Traditionally pastors are one man affairs caring for a group who call themselves a local church. Local churches meet once or a few times weekly having some form of belief in God , right up to specific “experience type believing in being born again and being baptised in the Holy Spirit.” Much enthused the churches who were connected with Jorge Pradas and Ed Miller set up quick "greenhouses" for young people and married couples within their churches called Casa Biblica or Bible houses. Watchman Nee had previously done the same . Youth With a Mission had similar aims in their Discipleship Training Courses.
In hindsight these were all restricted learning environments which covered no more than Romans chapters 3 to 5, or the first two stages of growth in 1 John 2.
The FIRST HALF of the "young man stage" of John's letter is still the favored popular end of the gospel. We see something similar in Jesus own ministry. A lot of people forget that Jesus laid His glory aside. He WAS A NEW LINE whose Seed was directly of God, but He, like Adam was a Man, who had now been baptised in the Spirit. Beginning with one sentence under anointing in hometown of Nazareth, He was learning as He went.He could learn from no rabbi about being baptised in the Spirit, so He was learning it all Himself. But in order to take people through in the Spirit, Jesus announced further clarity of revelation in John 6 and everyone but the most committed left.
To be fair to Jorge Pradas's Bible Houses to the extent that they followed the patterns established by the thirdleveller Edward Miller, they really were to a measure places of Deliverance for all of us.
But almost universally this fact is also true.
The man in charge of Bible House.
The people running YWAM
Just about 99% of all current churches have no clue what they enter into in seeking to bring forth people in Christ.
Everyone without exception is naïve about Genesis 3 thinking at the same time that they know everything about Genesis 3. Just as no man can ever understand childbirth, nor any woman who has never been through it herself, in the same way unless you have been part of your own “bearing of the ManChild Jesus Christ” in your own body, you have not a clue of the deliverance you need from the Old Creation and your own departure from Genesis 3.
The TRUE MANCHILD DEMANDS HIS OWN FORM OF CHURCH, HIS VERY OWN WINESKIN. Church as it is now is like a flimsy cardboard model that has very little true significance in the Spirit of God.
As Paul says our works shall all be burned and that which endures shall have been tried as through fire.
I am getting very tired of people saying to Rich Novek, myself, Daniel Yordy, Annalize Mouton and many others of us here
“You are more unpopular than we are.”
“You don't have many people liking your posts.”
“When are you going to do something?”
“Why don't you preach the gospel?”
Here is the truth God speaks over us no matter how it looks to the eyes. And it is the very same message God the Father would have spoken over the tiny group of 12 and a few hangers on.
Isaiah 55 “Shout for joy, O barren one, you who have borne no child;
Break forth into joyful shouting and cry aloud, you who have not travailed;
For the sons of the desolate one will be more numerous
Than the sons of the married woman,” says the Lord.
2 “Enlarge the place of your tent;
[a]Stretch out the curtains of your dwellings, spare not;
Lengthen your cords
And strengthen your pegs.
3 “For you will spread abroad to the right and to the left.
And your [b]descendants will possess nations
And will resettle the desolate cities.
4 “Fear not, for you will not be put to shame;
And do not feel humiliated, for you will not be disgraced;
But you will forget the shame of your youth,
And the reproach of your widowhood you will remember no more.
5 “For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.
6 “For the Lord has called you,
Like a wife forsaken and grieved in spirit,
Even like a wife of one’s youth when she is rejected,”
Says your God.
7 “[c]For a brief moment I forsook you,
But with great compassion I will gather you. Church as it is now is like a flimsy cardboard model that has very little true significance in the Spirit of God.
The truth is we don't need that many people, what we need is people who have genuinely received the Seed of Jesus Christ through us or others and have become fullgrown. There is only one Jesus Christ however the outer form looks.
Anybody can preach a religion that saves them from some future hell, or even lead others into the exciting baptism of the Holy Spirit. Just these features on their own are enough to create mutlitudes of excited people who create a culture that is infectious for others to join......but none of this was actually what Jesus Christ was doing. What He was doing as we see when Peter blurted out You are the Son of God, and He came back with “Upon this Rock, this perception of God in flesh, will I build My Church.”. was teaching people to become as little children and completely relearn the whole business of life, but this time as God living His life as you in your form.
No church is doing this. And this is why we are impatient with you. You can accuse us as much as you like, but you are not doing what Jesus called us to do. The foundation you are building on is a little bit of Jesus superimposed upon the foundation of man, or the whole Genesis 3 lie.
Monday 19th March 1979 prophecy through Stuart Wentworth to Bible House Young men below:
For I say unto you young men that I have chosen you, that I have called you, I have known you, I have to called your lives for a purpose, I have called you that you might overcome the evil one.
Stuart Wentworth on another occasion sharing in Winsley Barn
'I have called you to a way of faith,and this shall overcome the evil one, this shall overcome the world, even your faith. I have called you to be men of faith,faith in the faithfulness of your God.
First UK Bible House 42 New Brighton Rd Emsworth
And even this night, I would join you even this night,that together you may become men of.faith, that you should share your faith one with another, that through your faith, you should encourage and build up one another. For I have much to do through your lives, and I would. counsel you this night to take every opportunity and to make the most of the time to build up your faith, that most holy faith in your God. The times will come when I shall scatter you, and I shall thrust you forth into the work that I have prepared for you, and you shall walk in the ways that I have prepared for you to walk in, and you shall perform even the good works that I have prepared for you to walk in. And you shall not have your brother to whom you can turn.
But know this, that in the Spirit I desire to join you in such a unity and in such a bond. Though you be absent in body, yet shall you be present together In the Spirit. And that fellowship and that communion in the Spirit may not be broken. Rather it will be strengthened by your separation, and that your love for one another will even be deepened by that separation, so that you would yearn to see one another again. I have called you to this place, that I might fashion you and prepare you for the great work that is before you. And even this night even as you are drawing together, it is as though a holy flame ascends unto your God, right unto My place, right up to the very heavens, a flame that is holy, which burns the sacrifice that is acceptable to your God. I desire this flame always to burn deep in your hearts, and never to go out, and I would counsel you to fan that flame Keep in your hearts that flame of love for Me, that no matter what I take you through, that flame of love shall never be quenched. And many waters cannot quench the fire that I have put in your hearts. And I desire that fire to become a mighty flame fanned by the moving of My Spirit, that would carry men into the very kingdom of God.
Outside the Now Non- existant Boy's Club Sunday meeting building Emsworth
And I have chosen you to be heralds of My holiness, that you may speak forth precious words of life unto those that are perishing and lost, that you might build up My Church in these days to come. And so shall My Name be glorified through your lives.So shall My Name be uplifted and carried by you,carried upon your lips and upon your hearts, and the very anointing of your God shall be upon you, the very glory WN4 (Olk of God shall be seen on your faces For you are a precious people unto Me. Each one in this
The Garden of 42 New Brighton Rd Emsworth
Church is~precious one to Me. And these men that you see before you are not special men in a sense that they are diffr - ent, but they have a calling and a ministry which is from God. And I give many gifts unto My Church, many gifts, that the Body of Christ might come to maturity, might grow up into a fulness of My Son.I give gifts and I appoint men who shall be bearers of the Good News of God, the Good News of the Gospel. These men are not different. Each one of you has a place in My Body that is special for you, and each one of you has a ministry, and each one of you is precious to Me. I have called these men that My Church might be established. Bear them upon your hearts. Pray much for them, for to whom much is given, much shall be expected, and to whom much responsibility is given, much is held responsible, and I would have you pray for them and to uphold them before My face, that they may be men of faith, and that they may be faithful unto the high calling to which I have called them. For it is a holy calling, it is a high calling, it is the calling of their God, and though they may try even to resist it, yet in My love I will continue to work in their lives that their calling might be fulfilled.Strengthen them much in these days, and uphold them before Me, for My hand is upon their lives, and they shall know much of the work of My Spirit. I would say again to you young men, build yourselves up in your most holy faith, that you might overcome the evil one, that you might know Me, whom to know is life eternal. For I shall never leave you nor forsake you. My hand shall be upon your lives, and though you may fear much, yet trust in Me, for I have begun a good work in you, and I shall complete it the day of My Son.Therefore be of good courage, strengthen that which is weak, strengthen your brother. So shall you be established in My ways and so shall My Name be glorified upon this earth through the ministry that i have called you to.
These two first parts I hope will be added to by those with real testimonies about the foundations that were put into lives in the late 70s and early 80s.
