Apostolic Simplicity

 

A Good Foundation

Traditionally pastors are one man affairs caring for a group who call themselves a local church. Local churches meet once or a few times weekly having some form of belief in God , right up to specific “experience type believing in being born again and being baptised in the Holy Spirit.” Much enthused the churches who were connected with Jorge Pradas and Ed Miller set up quick "greenhouses" for young people and married couples within their churches called Casa Biblica or Bible houses. Watchman Nee had previously done the same . Youth With a Mission had similar aims in their Discipleship Training Courses.
In hindsight these were all restricted learning environments which covered no more than Romans chapters 3 to 5, or the first two stages of growth in 1 John 2.
The FIRST HALF of the "young man stage" of John's letter is still the favored popular end of the gospel. We see something similar in Jesus own ministry. A lot of people forget that Jesus laid His glory aside. He WAS A NEW LINE whose Seed was directly of God, but He, like Adam was a Man, who had now been baptised in the Spirit. Beginning with one sentence under anointing in hometown of Nazareth, He was learning as He went.He could learn from no rabbi about being baptised in the Spirit, so He was learning it all Himself. But in order to take people through in the Spirit, Jesus announced further clarity of revelation in John 6 and everyone but the most committed left.
To be fair to Jorge Pradas's Bible Houses to the extent that they followed the patterns established by the thirdleveller Edward Miller, they really were to a measure places of Deliverance for all of us.
But almost universally this fact is also true.
The man in charge of Bible House.
The people running YWAM
Just about 99% of all current churches have no clue what they enter into in seeking to bring forth people in Christ.
Everyone without exception is naïve about Genesis 3 thinking at the same time that they know everything about Genesis 3. Just as no man can ever understand childbirth, nor any woman who has never been through it herself, in the same way unless you have been part of your own “bearing of the ManChild Jesus Christ” in your own body, you have not a clue of the deliverance you need from the Old Creation and your own departure from Genesis 3.
The TRUE MANCHILD DEMANDS HIS OWN FORM OF CHURCH, HIS VERY OWN WINESKIN. Church as it is now is like a flimsy cardboard model that has very little true significance in the Spirit of God.
As Paul says our works shall all be burned and that which endures shall have been tried as through fire.
I am getting very tired of people saying to Rich Novek, myself, Daniel Yordy, Annalize Mouton and many others of us here
“You are more unpopular than we are.”
“You don't have many people liking your posts.”
“When are you going to do something?”
“Why don't you preach the gospel?”
Here is the truth God speaks over us no matter how it looks to the eyes. And it is the very same message God the Father would have spoken over the tiny group of 12 and a few hangers on.
Isaiah 55 “Shout for joy, O barren one, you who have borne no child;
Break forth into joyful shouting and cry aloud, you who have not travailed;
For the sons of the desolate one will be more numerous
Than the sons of the married woman,” says the Lord.
2 “Enlarge the place of your tent;
[a]Stretch out the curtains of your dwellings, spare not;
Lengthen your cords
And strengthen your pegs.
3 “For you will spread abroad to the right and to the left.
And your [b]descendants will possess nations
And will resettle the desolate cities.
4 “Fear not, for you will not be put to shame;
And do not feel humiliated, for you will not be disgraced;
But you will forget the shame of your youth,
And the reproach of your widowhood you will remember no more.
5 “For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.
6 “For the Lord has called you,
Like a wife forsaken and grieved in spirit,
Even like a wife of one’s youth when she is rejected,”
Says your God.
7 “[c]For a brief moment I forsook you,
But with great compassion I will gather you.

 Church as it is now
 is like a flimsy cardboard model
 that has very little
 true significance in the Spirit of God.

The truth is we don't need that many people, what we need is people who have genuinely received the Seed of Jesus Christ through us or others and have become fullgrown. There is only one Jesus Christ however the outer form looks.
Anybody can preach a religion that saves them from some future hell, or even lead others into the exciting baptism of the Holy Spirit. Just these features on their own are enough to create mutlitudes of excited people who create a culture that is infectious for others to join......but none of this was actually what Jesus Christ was doing. What He was doing as we see when Peter blurted out You are the Son of God, and He came back with “Upon this Rock, this perception of God in flesh, will I build My Church.”. was teaching people to become as little children and completely relearn the whole business of life, but this time as God living His life as you in your form.
No church is doing this. And this is why we are impatient with you. You can accuse us as much as you like, but you are not doing what Jesus called us to do. The foundation you are building on is a little bit of Jesus superimposed upon the foundation of man, or the whole Genesis 3 lie.

Facebook or No Facebook

Half-built Tower

I am grateful for the exposure that both blogging and Facebook have given me. The process began with the writer of the next blogpost in 2008, when I used to comment along with other , now facebook friends, in his comments section.

In 5 short years I have brushed up against all sorts of folk from all areas of Christendom which has given me tremendous pastoral insight, usually aquired painfully over decades, of the sort of differing trends of belief that are at large currently all over the earth. Obviously some of these differences are taught with posh sounding names in seminaries, but nothing can really compare with talking with those who hold these many strands of believing.

At least some of St Paul's missions experience was speaking in a teaching forum for 18months or so, and for me this has been very similar. The advantage of  Facebook has been to get down to some of these brass tacks of inner believing, whereas you would have to be going some in the real world where most people are far more coy in opening up about such deeply held things.

Now recently several people who I have been walking closely (continual exchanges) or at a distance (infrequent exchanges) with, have simply upped, turned their heel and in the worst cases completely defriended me. Humanly some things have been my own foolishness, and other things have occurred through  me holding truths I believe are unpopular. They may only turn out to be "shades of truth"...that is true to a certain limited extent only....but sometimes these things have to be said in order that later they don't prove to be wholly true, and by then it is often too late.

REAL WORLD EXAMPLE in the last few weeks
I have been working alongside and under a South African who started to have unpleasant brushes with other colleagues. I was alerted to this some 6 weeks before things came to a very unpleasant head, which resulted in his sacking. I wanted to alert someone high up to avert this disaster, both for colleagues, but also the man's sake....I had started sharing about this very blog with him and his wife. My lowly position with this firm means there was no real outlet for me to act on my insight. Then the inevitable occurred and it was far worse than it should have been.

I don't believe I am always right. I don't believe I am always wholly right....but picking up directions that we could be heading in. I believe "directions" can be headed off at the pass if flagged up soon enough.

Really from the moment that Living Word issues forth a clock starts ticking in the earth.

I could also still have real problems in "how I share", coming from previous deepseated hurts that still have to properly come under the blood of Christ. But I feel, like Paul, when he moved on from forum teaching, and also coming to an end of patience with sharing with his own people the Jews, giving himself to Gentiles....that a fresh direction has now come for me. I absolutely have no clue whether leaving Facebook is permanent, but certainly I do find FACEBOOK and social media...in fact...let's go further and state books as well, as something of a NEW CART....(reference King David arranging a New Cart to carry the Ark of God's Presence in 2 Samuel 6, 1 Chronicles 13,).

There are those who are READY for the teaching of God. John 7: 17 If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. 
The teaching comes when the pupil is ready (Buddhist precept). A person has cried out in his heart to know some truth, and God hears and supplies....by any of the above means...blog/social networking/reading in a magazine or book....

But really WORD comes in a covenantal context. You see WORD pins you down covenantally. If you HEAR properly you are saying AMEN...be it unto me according to your Word. Bind the festal sacrifice to the altar.... ME.....and you Holy Spirit fulfil that in me.

Really from the moment that Living Word issues forth a clock starts ticking in the earth.
You either HEAR and accept....what begins as sweet to taste in the mouth, like honey.....but then is exceedingly bitter in your stomach as the Holy Spirit WORKS that transformation on your insides...piercing to the division of soul and spirit (Hebrews 4)

OR you don't carry it through
and you become yet another LIAR in the earth
one who declares God to be a liar, by half building a tower only.

Our experience so far, which I was convinced was the beginning of a new thirdlevel church in the earth, a new pattern, has indeed turned out to be a NEW CART stumbling at the first bump. It is not the proper Covenantal framework by which the Word can be brought forth.

That one Divinely recognised form, outside of the usual vicissitudes of life, which is also a womb for the Word....see some of the negatives listed in Matthew5....is the CHURCH. Expressed in the local Body of Christ. The Woman that encompasses the Manchild in Revelation 12.

The LOCAL church has to be specifically Christ in us the hope of Glory...Galations 2:20 It is nolonger I who live but Christ.....we are new creations entirely by virtue of Christ's work

But I realise now Jorge Pradas's word to our little church at Emsworth holds true...
WE have to specifically BELIEVE and confess to (by faith) that we are the CHURCH...a building not made with hands, coming down from God in heaven.

It has been painful to realise that while grace opens up the doors to all the victories of Christ, it is the same grace that unpacks salvation in its true corporate context, only as believers are as specific in their believing that they are the Church.
The Congregation that will prevail against the Gates of Hell IN THIS AGE. This is the Rock of confession upon which the Church is built.

The Covenantal Church is a church that is made of individuals who are open and laid bare before one another....but this only works in the Living Presence and sustaining power of God as Father, God as Son, and God by His Spirit amongst us.

OR you don't carry it through
and you become yet another LIAR in the earth
one who declares God to be a liar, by half building a tower only.

This is church as in
where the dead body is there the carrion gather...there the overcomers rise or are birthed
This  is church as embodied in the Cutting of Covenant together in Genesis 15.

How will you know that you will POSSESS the promises of God?
Because He will write them in Covenant across your body by the Spirit.
Firstly in baptism in water and the Spirit.
But also baptising you (again by His Spirit...you can't do this)...into His people of faith as under the Cloud of His Presence.
Notice Abraham had to drive away the carrion...signifying Jesus later words, that such a body would draw those interested by instinct...because they want to come...because they voluntarily are drawn as it says in Psalm 110.
But then such open carcasses have the Shekinah Burning Pot of the Fire of God pass right through their midst. Every church gathering should be covenantal....should experience this nature of deep presence of the Living Lord.

This is CHURCH and BODY and CLOUD as I know it, and became first aquainted with in the Billy Graham films, then as we were baptised in the Spirit in Great Kingshill...

this is what I have found so hard to articulate here on Facebook in a rather mixed, fuzzy setting.

THESE are the people I am now seeking the world over and locally, and who I want to spend my  time here on earth with. If you are such a person, be aware that it is as far from the word NICE as you can get....but as near to the LIVING PRESENCE of the LORD as you can experience now this side of heaven.

GLORY is not nice...but it is GLORIOUS, TRUE,HOLY, and bathed in COVENANTAL LOVE.

These blogposts are published automatically using NETWORKED BLOGS to my former Facebook Timeline which has not been erased in case any of you want to delve into some of the upbuilding material .
I myself at present cannot be communicated with via Facebook but my email address is still

07000intune@googlemail.com.

Chris Welch... author of this blog and this current post.

Upon Which Rock? Scott Harper, Chris Welch

Will The Real Church Please Stand UP?!
by Scott Harper on Sunday, 2 September 2012 at 02:30 ·
Dear ones there is something that is heavy upon the Lords heart and it is concerning the state of His Church-Ecclesia! For many, many generations there has been 2 churches - the wheat church, the real ecclesia of God, true sheep. Then there is the Whore church- the tares, the goats, those with a form of godliness who forsake the power. To understand the structure that has been erected, many times you must go to the foundation and look to see what the edifice has been built on. For truly, if one had built upon an erroneous foundation, then the error of the foundation will disrupt and eventually destroy the structure that has been built as well as endanger those found within. For many years there has been a huge error taught to the church, upon this one error we have seen entire ministries come forth, huge churches, denominations, bible schools and even so called movements. Many men and women have believed this error and have caused much destruction, delusion and deception to be taught believers. The error is taught has come from the carnal reasonings of man concerning this portion of scripture:

Matt. 16:13-20
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He wasthe Christ.


There have been many who have built erroneously upon what they consider the true Rock to build upon is. The Roman Catholic Church holds to a certain interpretation of this passage as the foundation of its authority structure. he was saying that Peter himself was the rock upon which the church would be built. That is, Peter was to have primacy over the other apostles. And that the keys of the kingdom that Jesus talks about in verse 19 refer to the prerogatives that Jesus has given to Peter as the first leader of the Christian church and also as the first Bishop of Rome. As most already know, the Roman Catholic Church looks to this passage as the proof that Peter was indeed the first pope.

One of the most popular evangelical answers goes something like this: There are two different Greek words used for "Peter" and "Rock." Peter is petros, which can mean a small stone and "rock" which is the Greek word- is petra which can mean a large rock. In that case the Evangelicals say that Peter is not the rock; the rock is "his confession of faith". Then some say Jesus was there with them in front of this massive Rock cliff which was the demonic stronghold for the Syrian inhabitants of Caesarea Philippi and may have said, "You are Peter" and then gestured toward him when he said, "Upon this rock I will build my church." There you have the two popular answers to this question of what is the rock upon which the church is built? IS IT ON PETER HIMSELF? Or is it his CONFESSION OF FAITH?

Then there are the Word of Faith- Charismatic camp who say that Jesus there in front of this demonic stronghold- massive rock deliberately set himself against the background of the worlds religions' error and confusion: and here He inquired of His disciples about His identity. Peters answer to the Lord in vs. 16 is set apart from and beyond the carnal reasoning of the soul. Thus the reason for Jesus' commending Peter for having heard from God in the realm of the Spirit in vs 17. But here is where the Faith-Charismatic camp miss it just like the Catholic and the Evangelical camp has missed the proper understanding of this passage. The Faith-Charismatic camp believe and teach that the proper emphasis is based on the premise that: Proper leadership in His Church should always lead and be based not on mans ability to reason things out as much as on his readiness and receptivity to hear God through "REVELATION KNOWLEDGE" and that the things which God unfolds by the rhema word. In other words they base the establishment, leadership and the growth of the Church upon Revelation Knowledge in their Leaders this is missing the mark!!!

Lets look at the passage again!!!
Matt. 16:13-20
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” He said to them, {{{“But who do you say that I am?”}}} Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, {{{the Son}}} of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood {{{{did not reveal this to you}}}}, but My Father who is in heaven. I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.

The Church is to be built upon SONSHIP. You see dear one it was Jesus' identity as Son that God revealed to Peter and it is and has always been the Rock of Sonship that we are to build the Church on. Not upon Peter himself, not upon our confession of faith and not upon revelation knowledge! All three of these answers are wrong and all three have used this erroneous foundation to build their kingdoms of mixture on, they have built a whore church upon a foundation that has not, is not, nor ever will be Truth. These kingdoms of mans religion have all been built on errors that some man got from their carnal reasoning of their soul, not from the Spirit of God.

The solid Rock foundation to build the Church upon is Jesus as the Son of God and our identity as Sons of God. The greatest fear Satan has concerning us is that we will wake up to the Eternal Truth of our Sonship! When Jesus was growing-maturing in His Sonship as the Son of man the enemy saw how Jesus was led of the Spirit. He saw how Jesus was not being hindered by his flesh nor by his soul. He saw that if he could get Jesus to give into temptaion in one of three areas he would be defeated. These three realms must be overcome to pass on into fullness. They are the lust of the fles, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. It is these three areas that even today, the enemy targets and means to attack your sonship - your identity as a Son.

Matt 4:1-11
Then Jesus was {{{led up by the Spirit}}} into the wilderness to be tempted by (and to overcome...my words here -SH) the devil. And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry. And the tempter came and said to Him, “{{{{If You are the Son of God}}}}, command that these stones become bread.” But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’” Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, {{{{“If You are the Son of God}}}}, throw Yourself down; for it is written, ‘He will command His angels concerning You’; and ‘On their hands they will bear You up, So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’” Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.’” Then the devil left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him.
Satan showed Jesus everything that was his inside his kingdom of flesh and of soul (m ind, will and emotions) But you see Jesus had spent 40 days starving his flesh and soul and feeding his Spirit man. He went into the temptaionwilderness being led by the Spirit, walking in the realm of the Spirit as a Son, He stayed in the Spirit while being tempted, he Heard from the Spirit of God what to say in response to the enemy, even when he used the Word to tempt. As sons we love reading the written Word, but we listen to and only do and say what we see and hear from the Living Word. Here Jesus examples this for us to follow. Jesus was already living by "every (living) word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." So you see sons of God are not bound by the letter, we live in in a higher realm, we abide in realm of the Spirit, seeing face to face and hearing from the Livingm Word...this is the God-life!

Will you see the error of your ways oh Church, will you repent? Will you change your mind, and be renewed in your understanding? Will you come out of the whorish condition of the soul and flesh of the psuedo church which has built upon erroneous foundations?! Come now and embrace the Truth. Come now and build His Church on its proper foundation of Rock which is your true identity of Sonship!!! Will you??? I believe you will!!!

Chris Welch Writes.....Upon Which Rock?
More or less the same...except I'm not ditching anything we have learned by the Spirit en route.



It is obvious that God is somehow highlighting this passage if Scott Harper has felt so strongly to write upon it.

So "Upon this Rock"
means as Lisa has said first AND LAST, Allpha and Omega...Jesus.
He who begins a good work in You.....shall complete it.....
There is no other rock.

But this 'ere Rock means so much.And we must know some of these things if we are to be co-priests and co-intercessors in His house.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word of God.
Jesus was speaking Word to the multitudes and His disciples. He obviously had not spelt out the things Peter was confessing. So it shocked Jesus in a good way.

So a platform of "hearing" had already been created in Peter by the Word that Jesus had been speaking on other matters to do with the Kingdom. So Peter's very own faith was now starting to operate from this new "hearing base" that had been switched on in Peter.

Now this hearing base is where we start hearing our own Rhema Words direct from the Father. "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but My Father in heaven."

I don't know what it is about South Africans , perhaps they are now having an allergic reaction to Ray Macauley and Rhema movement. But whether or not the movement still is continuing, this capacity to hear direct from the Father ourselves, IS HOW THE KINGDOM Comes in this earth. This is one side of the Rock.

Jesus said I am in the Father and He is in Me....and now...we will make our home in you....

But the confession itself is also the Rock. It is one of those forensic evidence proofs that the apostles give in their letters every so often.
One is LOVE. By this shall you know them.
Another is...
1 John 4 : 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

This as God has been pressing on me is our Rock...
that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of the Father....because Adam was NOT begotten...the reproductive cycle means that we were begotten according to the flesh...BUT OF ADAM...the one scooped out of the soil and breathed into.

Jesus is the first heavenly man. The Man of heaven. But curiously , in only the way God can dream up things....
although conceived supernaturally....Jesus WAS BORN of a woman....Mary. And this confused everybody, so Jesus got called a bastard for the rest of His life.

But He was truly the Son of Man. But Divine.
And we are heavenly born in Christ, the Son of Man too, by virtue of the Cross. So that makes us the corporate Son of Man.

Just as Jesus got flack for saying He was God in the flesh...so we, speaking from the same spirit, and effectively confessing the same thing, because we too have been born again from on high, are also fulfilling that scripture above... 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

But we are being specific...this Jesus born in us!!!!He has come in our flesh. This is the Rock on which the actual Kingdom is being built in the Earth. The rest is like lining up dominos by the shoreline waiting for the tide to knock them over.

Can you see now when God spoke in the 70s and said
Restore the ruins
Build up a Highway of Holiness
set up waymarks
He was speaking of a TRUE AUTOROUTE along which the multitudes of the Earth shall travel that is built on Jesus Own Substance.
Reproducing after His own Kind


What was from the beginning, what WE have heard, what WE have seen with our eyes, what WE have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life— 2 and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us— 3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. 4 These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete.

Do you begin to see why this took so long?
It's not any foundation. It's not just the foundation of forgiveness of sins.
It's not a charismatic or Rhema Movement foundation ALTHOUGH I am not discarding the Spirit methods we learnt en route.

It is an existence which has DUG DOWN TO THE ROCK...to Jesus Himself...to see the whole of Life with a single Eye...to see and live ....purely God going on in us and outside of us

But there are a couple more things...
One is connected with Rhema Word...or prophetic Word.
We don't just believe anything we like about ourselves...we try to sense what our innermost heart is saying about the plan for our lives....and to be open for the prophetic Word direct from the Lord or through other people.

Remember Peter didn't just tag along idly. He heard the Master say to Him . "Leave your nets, come follow Me."

He didn't just decide that just because he was the pushiest character, that that made him eligible to start the Church...the way leaders muscle up now. Strength of character. Charisma. Who speaks the loudest. Who looks the most dishy .

No the Word was laid on Peter specifically " I give you the Keys of the Kingdom."

OK let's have a look what that Rock was in Peter's Life that meant he could use the Keys to open the door in the first ever sermon of the church, to which 3,000 were added the first day in Acts 2.

The Keys WERE ALL OF IT!!!
Whaaaat!

All Peter's experiences of failure and success. As with any characer described in the Old Testament. Everything is there to see. All the dirty washing. King David committing adultery.Peter denying Jesus adamantly three times.

So this is Peter's own personal Rock. I don't mean that His version of Jesus is personal so back off! No His Jesus is the same as our Jesus. But this is the story of how Peter reached "Rockbottom". Ground Zero. Where he learned personally the hard way that the only one who could live his life was Jesus Christ. That there is no such thing as an independent self in this universe . We are not self-empowered beings. It was the spirit of sin in the flesh that powered my whole Tree of Good and Evil existence. This is what Peter came to learn . This is what Paul came to learn in Arabia and was writing about in Romans 7.

Upon THIS ROCK

What is wonderful about Jesus is He is in the process of proving the devil wrong. We do not know the exact details. We can read Job Chapter 1. Now if Job had heard chapter 1 first it'd have been easier!!!
Jesus did whisper something to Paul in Ephesians3:10"so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places.". Jesus LET the Church, His precious possession fall into the Earth and die. He EVEN let the Muslim empire spring up in the interim. Then the first shoots of His real church, raised up by revelation alone started again in the late 1400s.

So we came in to what we thought was a complete message through Billy Graham of forgiveness of sins, and knowing Jesus within us, but we keep seeing, no, this was just the vestibule of the Tabernacle in the heavens.
This is barely front doorbell.
And all the time Jesus is grinning broadly with pride.
For we see failures, misunderstandings, fallouts in churches ,families,nations.....but He sees something incredible.

He sees a priesthood being raised up, here a verse, there a verse.Here some Light there some Light. What is to us hundreds of years, and us personally as decades.....He just looks right through it.
Because it IS a MIRACLE.
It began with Peter's first confession.
But you...you...you are the Son of God!
Blessed are you Peter,for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you ...and on this Petrus/ Rock I will build my Church.

What is the ROCK?
The fact that Jesus is the Rock, which He is. Maybe.
The fact that Peter has had a revelation.Perhaps this is closer.

OR PERHAPS it is the Revelation that Jesus is the Son of God on which the whole thingwill be built,but more than that
that FLESH and BLOOD has not revealed this.

Now we're ticking Jesus thinks. He whispers to the Father. "You know, I think we can pull this off."

What?
Well when Satan built something he had to manipulate, cajole, lie,get into the whole scene himself as a snake. Tell lies about God. Spin a yarn about being independent. Spin a yarn about being God....and create this enormous ramshackle house in the earth that has to be pyramid shaped, or it will fall down. A building without it's own life. Where people have to be amused by Madonna dressing up as him, cavorting around with symbols that speak of him, and pictures that speak of him, and music that has to rise and fall like some incantation that speaks of him.

In short...the people themselves don't matter. They are impersonal bricks in his pyramid.



But Jesus looks instead at His building that builds itself. Doesnt have to be pyramid, can be polomint shaped. Or shaped like an emu.
Built entirely by revelation.
Built entirely by personal one to one revelation....even if the Word is initially spoken through another. It is the Personal revelation, uncovering within a person  the Person that is Jesus, manifested through all that person is, and could ever be.

That's why Jesus nearly fell over backwards with joy. "Now we're rocking!"
"Father, THIS IS THE MELCHIZEDEK ORDER! THIS is the thing that the Gates of hell WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST."

It's not run by flesh and blood. It's run by ME, in every single one of them. IN UNION WITH THEM AS THEM.

This is the manifold wisdom of God made known in the church to principlalities and powers.
LOOK OUT Principalities and powers! The clock just started ticking!