Showing posts with label the Prison Gate. Show all posts
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Sunday, 23 March 2025

Key Message on Men , Our Lifetime , Where we are .

 



Psalm 24 verses that I fumbled

The earth is the Lords, and [a]all it contains,
The world, and those who live in it.
For He has founded it upon the seas
And established it upon the rivers.
Who may ascend onto the hill of the Lord?
And who may stand in His holy place?
One who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul to deceit
And has not sworn deceitfully.
He will receive a blessing from the Lord
And [b]righteousness from the God of his salvation.
[c]This is the generation of those who seek Him,
Who seek Your face—even Jacob. Selah

Lift up your heads, you gates,
And be lifted up, you [d]ancient doors,
That the King of glory may come in!
Who is the King of glory?
The Lord strong and mighty,
The Lord mighty in battle.
Lift up your heads, you gates,
And lift them up, you [e]ancient doors,
That the King of glory may come in!
10 Who is this King of glory?
The Lord of armies,
He is the King of glory. Selah

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Friday, 15 August 2014

From Sacred Cows to the Prison Gate. In conversation.

Rich Novek
9 August near Weatherford, TX, United States · Edited


I have been spending the last few weeks exposing the much loved sacred cows of the modern day church. The sacred cows being the "self-preserving" other gods the people of God are relying on today...IN addition to Christ IN them as their only Life.

And so today, while exposing one of the most well known and sought after false teachers of our day, I discovered firsthand what I believe may be the most sacred of all the sacred cows out there today, that being the "so called" Christian leaders who, for whatever reason refuse to lose their own life so they can gain the "losing to gain" message of the Cross as their only Life. And though they may not know it, until they become willing participants IN the fellowship of His sufferings, they will NEVER know what it is to experience the life transforming POWER of His resurrection!

What is more, I consider EVERYTHING A LOSS because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I HAVE LOST ALL THINGS. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ. Philippians 3:8
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Joan Reilly I believe it's time church pastors, teachers and leaders of every description have a responsibility to get on their faces before God and ask what is wrong that up until now the church has had no effect on the political, economic, and spiritual deprivation of the world. Churches are starving for leadership who themselves know what it means to be dead, buried and resurrected with Christ so that the Life of Christ may be manifested in them. Faith (His Faith) comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word (made flesh) of God. Leaders hear what the Spirit of Christ is saying. Grow up in Christ so that you can lead your sheep to that same Life. You cannot give what you have not received.
Something to Persecute?  by Rich Novek

As a young man who cut his spiritual teeth on men like A.W. Tozer, Watchman Nee, Andrew Murray, and David Wilkerson, I used to look around the churches I attended and wonder... "why isn't the church being persecuted?"

It was only many years later, after having waded through (and come out the other side) the performance based lie that most believe to be the Gospel today, that I realized there is no persecution because there is really NOTHING IN the church to persecute.

Go back to the time when Jesus read the scroll of Isaiah IN the temple after returning from His 40 day trip into the wilderness, and everyone was in awe of Him... "good teacher and wonderful Rabbi", that is until they heard the one thing they didn't want to hear. Then it went from "good teacher and wonderful Rabbi" to all of them wanting to throw Him over a cliff!

And so today the Christian church goes on, and as long as you don't come against the leadership and the DIFFERENT gospel they promote then all is well within the confines of the local temple, just as they were on the day Jesus read Isaiah. That is, until you begin to expose the false shepherds for the wolves that they really are. That is until you begin to see God IN a whole different "narrow path" light than how the status quo leadership sees Him. And especially until you begin to see and expose the illusion of the separate, impersonal, and punishing God up there by proclaiming the One True God who lives IN you and as you and loves you as you are today with no performance based strings attached. And it's this God of ALL Grace who you know will settle for nothing less than your whole heart, who you NOW see living His own Life IN and through you, IN the exact same way Jesus saw His Father living through Him!

Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but YOU DO NOT BELIEVE. The works I do IN my Father’s name testify about me, but YOU DO NOT BELIEVE because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I KNOW THEM, AND THEY FOLLOW ME. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.” Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” John 10:25-33

So as it stands today, unless today's "so called" spiritual leaders forsake every TWO MASTER lie they are serving today, they can expect their dead letter assemblies to continue on as they have for generations, as no REAL threat to anyone or anything, especially the powers of darkness that have them deceived into believing as they do today.

Today RELEASE what you keep calling your own, no matter what it is, and then REST IN His unconditional Love. Then simply wait to RECEIVE the revelation of the "losing to gain" message of the Cross as your only Life, IN the same way that so many who have gone before us were willing to pay the ultimate price to KNOW Him even as they are known by Him.

Only then, when God rolls death IN on EVERYTHING you still see as your own life apart from the Christ you claim to love with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, will you witness firsthand...that REAL persecution is still very much alive and well within today's body of Christ! And it's still coming from the same place it always has, the ones who are still see a life other than Christ alone as their only Life!



MY ADDITIONS TO Rich Novek
Something to Persecute?
by Chris Welch

As a young man who cut his spiritual teeth on men like A.W. Tozer, Watchman Nee, Andrew Murray, and David Wilkerson, I used to look around the churches I attended and wonder... "why isn't the church being persecuted?"


Chris adds.....yes I couldn't get my head round it. We were one of the first of the UK mainline churches to become Spiritfilled from 1967.....yet...although in relative terms there was persecution......turning Amersham upside down we were not. Secondly I was immediately aware that something was different in the "so called Spiritfilled gospel" to the one in the Bible. I'd worked that out at 13.....I just couldn't articulate what the missing layer was until I was 31 and by then I had read Norman Grubbs Yes I Am. Well I am now the calendar says 56....and so we're not talking SWIFT revelation here....but I am convinced that ONLY the Biblical gospel produces the ructions that the apostles caused. We are familiar with certain well known Christian ministries....and they really have been used by God to advance things.....but so far Bill Johnson Che Ahn David Yongghi Cho, Andrew Farley,Joseph Prince are absolutely unknown in the world's jails. They don't threaten anything anywhere anytime. They are free to preach their messages of Grace or semi Grace and pressure....wherever and whenever they want. Not one of them knows or teaches the three level gospel of 1 John 2. They can go to their graves teaching toddlers and young apprentices in the Lord some of the Hebrews6 foundations.....but ultimately the devil could hardly care less. In fact he quite likes the revenue Christians pour into his domain weekly since he rules and reigns over satellite media. But no Joyce Meyers is going to ruffle a feather....because not one of them is doing the work of early apostles and giving birth to the Christ Manchild in revelation 12. Christ crucified and being transferred and imparted to Father level just isn't happening!!! This is the realm covered by Norman's book Yes I am.....and is precisely what my Spirit filled pastor in 1972 WAS NOT SAYING.


some more on the last few GATES
Jesus said if we go into our inner room to meet with the Father the things spoken in secret shall (further down) be shouted from the rooftops. Well in our current time of restoring the ruins of desolation the actual message is become the thing spoken in secret and now to be broadcast from the rooftops. It's like the days of Nehemiah when the work to be done was actually the work to be done. See once the city is built the work to be done is something different....but at the moment we are still doing an archaeological dig on the New Covenant message itself.....so few 'get it'. The thing Nehemiah did was to rebuild all the gates and midsection walls in between and this is what our generation has been doing as was prophesied thousands of years ago in psalm 24 and 110 and other prophets. Restorer of the breach. What breach? The wacking great gap in the gospel which before our generation had been reduced to Anglicans asking forgiveness then going out and shaking Oxfam and Christian Aid tins. But as you know I believe we have come to Gate number 10 Miphkad. It's like a trumpet call going out worldwide. It's a mature version of what Jimmy and Carol Owens were doing a generation back with Come Together. Except the Jesus Movement was a 2 layer gospel....it was 1 John 2....children and young men....but nobody knew there was a third level in addition. They had forgotten some of the Gates. Or regarded them as mere religion. So in our day there was no Old Gate. No Dung Gate. No Valley Gate. David Wilkerson was doing his best to bring them in....but he was scarce heard. Now like in Nehemiah 8 there is a gathering in the square. A calling to account. These are the days Smith Wigglesworth prophesied about of a people of Spirit and Truth. We can't have John Piper or others dismissing the work of the Spirit as Kundilini spirits but we can't have Bill Johnson being ignorant of anything beyond Romans 5 and just preaching Holy Spirit anointing. There are more Gates than the Fountain Gate and the Water Gate. And so this is the initial purpose of the Gate of Miphkad.....the judgment or tallying or census Gate. It's checking that all is present and correct before we go into hyperdrive. What's hyperdrive. Well it was the two winds prophecy of the 80s. If we don't bend our heads into the first wind we won't be part of the second Kingdom wind. Hyperdrive is Gate 11....the Gate of Ephraim....the double portion....whose prototypes were given to the Body as a trailer of the film to come....in the form of John G Lake and Uks Smith Wigglesworth and of course a ton of others. Gate 12 is as a result of Gate 11. Gate 12 is called the Prison Gate and is that Gate of intercession martyrdom which begins the whole cycle again bringing in more Sheep and Fish....the first 2 gates.....and so we go round again until the earth is filled with people who have discovered Jesus, the All in All.

Thursday, 17 April 2014

The Gospel in Africa is not quite the whole ticket

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I was in conversation about the tremendous build up we see according to Isaiah...behold the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the peoples, but UPON YOU!!!!!!!......
 And there our gospels take a fork. I describe my gospel.
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 African brother
 The fact remains that evil will continue to increase but God forbid that we should take part. The bottom line of it all is, prepare to meet with Jesus. We are not here for the world to love us or care for us. As long as we are for Christ the world will hate us. Personally I don't expect the world to be born again, but if the true Children of God will remain faithful, God will be pleased. Lastly, persecution is part of this race, therefore any Christian who pray that persecution shouldn't come has not really started. Never run away because of evil men but run away from evil.

 Chris
 The gospel in Africa is wrong.
 It was brought in by men who were still at I John 2 children stage, or 1 John 2 young man stage
 If you do your research and try to find some 1 John 2 Father stage people you will see the gospel is all about smashing the evil one's works to pieces. For this purpose was the Son of God manifest that He destroy all the works of the evil One.
 But the trick is this....
 as St Paul discovered some of  Jesus' tricks:
 we have to go into death that others may live. Very few Christians are still doing this which is why so much of the devil's work still remains.
 We have to fill out in our bodies what was not sufficient in Christ's own body. In other words Galations 2:20 tells us Christ intends to COMPLETE the JOB in our bodies because we ARE the BODY of CHRIST now on earth.
 This is the Ephesians mystery. The whole process of Ephesians creates these "super fighters for God" in Ephesians 6. This is the spiritual fight that overcomes the world....
 Romans 12.1 offering our bodies as living sacrifices.
 I personally do not know anyone on earth at the moment who resembles the grace of God on St Paul....but that is where we are going. If the former house began with the 12 apostles and St Paul. it says the glory of the latter house shall be even greater.
 As we do a quick trip around the Gates of Nehemiah we see the complete gospel spelled out.
 We begin at the sheep gate and evangelism no 1 and 2 , we take up our cross and experience the loss of all things for Christ ...the valley gate and Dung Gate.
 Totally cionvinced of our powerlessness God baptises us in the Spirit at the Fountain Gate, and we learn from then on to walk according to the Spirit by drawing His spiritual water every day in the Water Gate.
 Once we are fixed in this new identity by His Spirit and by some incredible experiences of pain and glory, we become resady for the Horse Gate, which is like our commission direct from God.
 There are other Gates but one of the last is the Prison Gate or Gate of the Guard. This is the trick that Jesus and Paul pulled off. By letting themselves be "caught" by authorities and taken into prison, (prisoners of the Lord) they sprung open loads of devils traps. Jesus sprung open salvation for all time, Paul sprung open parts of the Roman empire. It is said it is difficult to even number the amount of Christians in some of the cities the growth was absolutelely phenomenal.. Now in Africa in my lifetime we have seen servants of God, who are filled with the Spirit having tremendous impact in millions on Africa, but as I say, these guys do not have quite the same gospel as Jesus and St Paul. They are still fuzzy on Galations 2:20, and the true meaning of the Book of Romans....so imagine what will happen in Africa when 1 John 2 Father stage people start going into action!!!! And this is why when we see the field white for harvest we are not allowed to rush straight into it. We have to "pray the Father that He send forth workers".
 In other words it's supernatural. The original Greek for "send forth workers" is much more explosive. It is like dynamite. It means to "thrust out workers". Men can't do this with organisational skills. This is a God produced thing and is the power behind revival!!!
 God alone, in the Holy Spirit, knows how to take ordinary men and put them through the automatic car wash that gets them from spiritual first graders (the children redemption stage) right through to people like St Paul, who were the father-level people in the first church!!!!

African brother
Please clear me on these. The Gospel in Africa you are talking about is it now or then that is wrong? Secondly do we have different gospels? How can I know the true gospel? Which denomination, tribe or religion will I follow in order to please God?
A few seconds ago
Chris
All denominations are very like the Pharisees and Sadducees in Jesus time. All their spiritual knowledge has been boxed into carnal understanding....(our conscious mind, our left brain, the surface bit of us we talk from). Like the Pharisees, it's not that all they say is wrong, it's just that not having the Holy Spirit they had simplified everything and missed whole chunks of God's truth out.
In the African churches there are many who are born again, very many indeed. There are some who have experienced the baptism in the Spirit experience.
This is like 1 John 2....the young man stage of growth.
Jesus describes the work of the Holy Spirit/the Comforter/the Counsellor He was going to send after He had returned to the Father.
See John Chapter 14.
At the moment there are no churches which teach Father level doctrines, but soon there will be churches like this.
The Father level doctrines are shown by the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth...IF WE WANT IT.

Norman Grubb has written a great last book before he died in the 1990s explaining the book of Romans very thoroughly. The book can be bought online. It is called "Yes I am".
Pastor Patrick Bwayo also understands many things. He lives in Kampala, Uganda.Otherwise just keep asking questions and I will try to answer them by God's help from the scriptures.