Showing posts with label Kilimanjaro Climb. Show all posts
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Tuesday, 7 August 2012
Hello to all our friends and supporters by Elaine Waterfield
Donation details and further information is here
Hello to all our friends and supporters
My Greatest Scripture since coming to Kenya is Isaiah 41
this is a short news letter of what George.,Sarah and I have been doing since I returned to Suna in March.
Firstly we have completed the Clinic Labor Ward and REDIM Office, and we have the launch of our CBO in June. However we realize just as Mike Cameron had told us that we need more than one labor ward, if a mother is giving birth especially if they have HIV AIDS you can not put the patient in the same ward as a patient with chest infection, malaria, typhoid and we need a separate ward for children men and women, so we need to continue with our work.Plus we still have one or two jobs to finish.
Thanks to Mick O'Connell from Kingsway church Leicester who donated Leicester City football kit we had a football tournament with 8 Schools ( primary) and this gave the girls who played a voice to all their struggles with education, early pregnancy, marriages and child labor, sex trafficking to name but a few things. It brought schools together and also parents and teachers, it also was an opportunity for small groups to sell food, during the matches.Malera Primary school won the tournament which the Ministry of information and Education attended.
George and recently visited Tanzania where we climbed part of the way Mount Kilimanjaro we had wanted to do a sponsored walk to the top but because of that fact it was £3,000 to climb to the top over a six day period we were only able to walk through its rain forest for a day costing £200. It was incredibly Expensive and disappointing but in fact it was a privilege to have even gone to the mountain and a personal achievement as when I first came to Kenya I was fat and unfit and couldn't walk more than a few hundred yards without being out of breath. The testimony of this trip was that we were left without any money and just made It through the border but we had no money to get any further and no money for food, But after we prayed I found 700 ks in my pocket and a friend sent us some money to get us back to Suna amen.
We have been ministering to the addicts in the changa house and quite a number have come to the Lord. Challis was a big time criminal and drunk, murderer and he had been in prison several times. He was such an abusive man that he got severely caned but that's when I found him and God told me to pick him up and take him to the cafe for a soda and we prayed with him, he later gave his life to the Lord and Challis was recently baptized and is starting to grow vegetables on his land, his brother also came to the Lord and
money launderer Nation, Janes a disabled man who was a drunk and Christopher but they need prayer. I just said what do you want to be some mocked spat at laughed at caned no family no possessions or anything or do you want top be the father and husband God wants you to be respected with a hope and a future, I also gave my testimony as a drunk and backslider who found freedom and deliverance in Christ Jesus. we are praying that God will provide us with money to offer the lady in the changa house capital to start another business and the people who brew this its not by choice but poverty. What I have learned is that NOTHING can change a addicts life ONLY SALVATION THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. not caning, prison, nothing I have sen it with my own eyes here in our little village.
We have visited Uganda and Watoto Orphanage to see the bungalow that Trevor Davies and team from Victory Gospel church Southampton constructed a few years ago and it was a real humbling experience.
We have also visited schools and talked to the girls in various schools counseling them and we are just waiting for the moon cups that we posted back in March which haven't arrived yet to hand out to the schools as promised.We are also awaiting braille literature from Torch Trust and Bibles and all sorts what is happening to the post all you can say well it is Africa...
Other things that we are undertaking is we are buying some land for an orphanage our next project and hoping to start buying land for a rehab as there are so many drunkards and addicts in our community and this is why we are praying for Noel McNamee & Joey Daniels and their team to visit Chungni that would be such a great and honorable event
Another prayer is for Trevor Davies to visit us as many farmers here are looking for help and advice with agriculture and they are in fact just wanting him to come and visit so that they can meet him.
The aim of REDIM Rural Empowerment for the Development Initiative Movement is to empower the community with information and Education and giving them a voice,and helping them to be able to sustain themselves with small business. Spiritually we have led people to the Lord and given them a hope.In the UK we have Jesus and things but here in Africa they have Jesus and that's it, Jesus is their ONLY Answer.
Many prayers have been answered including through a gift from a reader of Daily Echo Southampton,
we have been able to purchase a motor bike which has been a great blessing cutting down costs of transport and enabling us to visit many school in the remote area where we live.
Sarah is in great need of medical equipment including a labor couch as its so hard to deliver babies whilst they are on the floor, white gum boots and disposable apron and long gloves as many pregnant women have HIV/ AIDS and when their waters break mixed with blood it just goes every where as I have experienced myself. The clinic was given a gift for medicine and I have provided medicines but the need is so very vast we need everything and anything and what ever would be appreciated. Without Sara's heard work and dedication and the clinic physically being there in the community of Chungni then I know many many people would die.
I think one of the worst things that effected me was when a very sick baby came into the clinic very badly dehydrated and lacking blood, I prayed and seriously prayed for life and healing before the baby Locky was taken to hospital and sadly he died the next day. That's the desperation of these people the mother only came to the clinic when it was simply too late.
This how I feel about Kenya we have this need like the limp lifeless baby and unless we have provision and especially from a donor who can provide a lump sum of money we will end up dying. We have survived with the very kind donations of ordinary people who struggle themselves and know what struggles are or people who have been here and seen the need and that has humbled me greatly and also George and Sarah.
We are planning to come to the UK next month,God willing George will get his visa this time we have so much to share with people and churches about Girl child education, early pregnancies, suicide amongst boys with no school fees, empowering the girls giving them a voice,Also sharing the vision and want to return with supplies for the clinic and other groups like Widows, Elderly , disabled, alcoholics and Orphans and we also need help with the church foundation. I also desire to come to and live in Kenya perminately God Willing as
there so much still left to do and George and Sarah are my family as is Frank Trevor like my Grandson, God is healing a great big wound that I thought would never heal.
On the subject of the church foundation the church have had a fund raising and God provided miraculously with 35,000 ks about £300 and they used this to buy chairs and bricks for the building. They are in the process of making the bricks.
On a funny note Patrick from the Changa house a business man who has a drink problem has registered a group and one of the conducts that they say is prohibited is the drinking of alcohol that made me laugh.
Needs
Labor couch
Beds
Blankets
drip stand
microscope
maleria and typhoid testing kits
money for two to three wards
money to purchase the land for the orphanage and rehab
money for the construction of the church
instruments
water system
sanitary towels
links with groups who send of equipment for disabled like wheelchairs and crouches
Albert needs a new prosthesis
Donors to help with small loans
We ask that those p[people we contact will reply
George and I need personal sponsorship as we are both struggling, I am in a lot of debt
I would also wish to stay in Kenya for a long period of time to help put things into place.
Church support and backing as I have no church at this moment who supports me
Finally George and Sarah and I would like to thank EVERYONE who has contributed to what we are doing as without your help none of this would have been possible, I may forget from time to time peoples names but not what you have given and what you have done. I will not write names as if I leave someone out its terrible, but thank you and may
God Bless you.
Nya Suna (elaine) George, Sarah Frank Trevor, Mathews and the community of Chungni and the church of makongeni
The Helper of Israel
41 “Be silent before me, you islands!
Let the nations renew their strength!
Let them come forward and speak;
let us meet together at the place of judgment.
2 “Who has stirred up one from the east,
calling him in righteousness to his service[a]?
He hands nations over to him
and subdues kings before him.
He turns them to dust with his sword,
to windblown chaff with his bow.
3 He pursues them and moves on unscathed,
by a path his feet have not traveled before.
4 Who has done this and carried it through,
calling forth the generations from the beginning?
I, the Lord—with the first of them
and with the last —I am he. ”
5 The islands have seen it and fear;
the ends of the earth tremble.
They approach and come forward;
6 they help each other
and say to their companions, “Be strong! ”
7 The metalworker encourages the goldsmith,
and the one who smooths with the hammer
spurs on the one who strikes the anvil.
One says of the welding, “It is good.”
The other nails down the idol so it will not topple.
8
“But you, Israel, my servant,
Jacob, whom I have chosen,
you descendants of Abraham my friend,
9 I took you from the ends of the earth,
from its farthest corners I called you.
I said, ‘You are my servant’;
I have chosen you and have not rejected you.
10 So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
11
“All who rage against you
will surely be ashamed and disgraced;
those who oppose you
will be as nothing and perish.
12 Though you search for your enemies,
you will not find them.
Those who wage war against you
will be as nothing at all.
13 For I am the Lord your God
who takes hold of your right hand
and says to you, Do not fear;
I will help you.
14 Do not be afraid, you worm Jacob,
little Israel, do not fear,
for I myself will help you,” declares the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
15 “See, I will make you into a threshing sledge,
new and sharp, with many teeth.
You will thresh the mountains and crush them,
and reduce the hills to chaff.
16 You will winnow them, the wind will pick them up,
and a gale will blow them away.
But you will rejoice in the Lord
and glory in the Holy One of Israel.
17 “The poor and needy search for water,
but there is none;
their tongues are parched with thirst.
But I the Lord will answer them;
I, the God of Israel, will not forsake them.
18 I will make rivers flow on barren heights,
and springs within the valleys.
I will turn the desert into pools of water,
and the parched ground into springs.
19 I will put in the desert
the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive.
I will set junipers in the wasteland,
the fir and the cypress together,
20 so that people may see and know,
may consider and understand,
that the hand of the Lord has done this,
that the Holy One of Israel has created it.
21 “Present your case, ” says the Lord.
“Set forth your arguments,” says Jacob’s King.
22 “Tell us, you idols,
what is going to happen.
Wednesday, 1 August 2012
Donate Now to the Kilimanjaro Climb
But first, A Third Level Vision for Giving....Chris Welch
In former times missionary giving was always couched in terms like this:
See what the Saviour has come and given us, leaving His glory behind and enduring humiliation even unto a Cross, so should we also give Him all we have.
And much good has come of this, except it isn't third level. It may be how just about every church runs on earth, especially instructing people that salvation comes through Jesus PLUS tithing, and then you will be saved. But this is NOT salvation and it is not third level giving.
So I'll say what third level giving is after quoting these verses.
Psalm110 The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'
This is the true vision of the Church. And the true vision out of which everything proceeds. We have a Risen Head. A Man in heaven. He is not now even a third level Man, a Father level person on earth, as described in 1 John 2 :12 ff, no, this Man is in His fourth stage, prefigured on the Mount of Transfiguration. This is FULLY GLORIFIED, FULLY RISEN MAN exercising Co-Dominion with the Father, and He is the firstborn of ALL CREATION, and ALL NEW CREATION, the first of an innumerable amount of brethren, THE FIRST FRUITS.....from the womb.....from the morning.
What womb?
What morning?
The womb of the sufferings of the Cross.
The Easter morning which is the same day when one single sheaf is waved as first fruits on the first day of the week at Passover.
What gospel missionaries only partially explained in previous times was the victory of Christ and exhorted us to be "like Him", completely missing the point of the Cross.
Were it just to forgive sins, all well and good, but it isn't just to forgive sins.
There were TWO GOATS that were sacrificed to describe this.
One goat was offered for sin and was totally burned up.
A second goat was sent as a scapegoat out from the midst of Israel into the wastes of the wilderness.
Jesus NOT ONLY took all our sins, He bore us away too. He took our essential Adamic spirit identities right down to where they naturally gravitated,hell, and left the Adamic spirit of death right there, then
bound up with Him , He redeemed our spirits that were lost and bound in Darkness, and caught them up in Himself in a New Creation Man.
Our lives are "hidden" Greek...interwoven , interleaved with Christ in GOD.
OUR "I AM's" , our spirits, are hidden with Christ in God. Done deal.
It's just hardly anybody knows......even Christians too.
So this is the source of confusion about giving.
Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning,
We do not give gifts really. We do not tithe, that is, the Old Covenant behaviour of tithing
WE ARE the freewill gifts.
And out from our identity as the freewill gifts, comes everything we do as Christians. A part of which is giving.
Oh, Chris, the pastors say, that is idealistic. If I trusted and relied on people getting this revelation of giving then I'd be out of a church and I'd have to get a job.
To which I reply...."And the problem is....?
Just about all of us on Facebook work. All our activities of blogging , using Twitter or Facebook are voluntary.
What I believe is this. We are the household of faith. As the Other-Love, Giving of Self to Others, Revelation of Christ's Giving Person, Our new identity in Him, busts out of our new created spirits and takes over more and more of our souls.....so we LIVE full time in this revelation
We are GOING to HAVE no trouble at all in supporting people with Word to share full-time, as they did in Acts, and as they supported Jesus in the gospels. Freewill offerings.
Meanwhile....
although 1980s charismatics don't yet understand the thirdlevel foundation of our giving, they have been learning some precious spiritual principles.
People who live and move in the Melchizedek Order, listening to and seeing what the Master is doing (Psalm 123) and put themselves out on a limb by faith, these are "the sons of God". Those who are led by the Spirit, these are sons of God.Romans 8:14 This is the new priesthood who serve day and night in the house of God. "We are a holy nation,a royal priesthood" 1 Peter 2:9
The Household of faith
Galations 6:10 Interlinear - "so then as occasion we have we should work good toward all but especially toward those of the household - of the- of faith"
It is the household of faith who we give to PRIMARILY. There is a Melchizedek blessing, a special blessing of God for those who give to the household of faith.
Tithing may have worked in the approximate settings of the Nation of Israel, but "a Greater has now come" who now serves in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Ministers who still live from tithes are living in the Old Covenant. They are NOT really the household of faith. Telling people that they must give tithes, then living from this collection of tenths of income.....well....you may as well be a salaried employee of Inland Revenue, because that is all you are doing.
People like Jackie Pullinger To when she started out in Hong Kong, and Elaine Waterfield are putting their lives on the line. It is a different order of giving. It is giving yourself lock stock and barrel to the Lord for your existence.
But as Jessie Duplantis said when talking on this subject. There are people you give to and the blessing does not rebound in the same way. You try it with Elaine Waterfield and Rich Novek, who has just launched himself out in this wayof faith. There is an anointing upon God's work done in God's way.
George Mueller proved to us as a forerunner of our current move, that you don't even have to tell people. In reality there IS NO LAW how we do things. For each it is up to the Holy Spirit to indicate. People can only give according to their standard of measure.
The standard of measure
This is way too weird for those who think their entire brain consists of their articulate reasoning. What about the way music hits you then? Articulate that to me? Sure we can give brief descriptions, but neither music nor the Presence of the Lord can be articulated that well, because that bit of our vessel that articulates wasn't made for picking up things like faith, dreams,"the single eye" that Jesus talks about....all this is understood by spirit and uses different parts of our being.
So the standard of measure is very related to how big our vision of God is. It is related also to what part of the Heavenly Tabernacle we most relate to...to the extent also we have entered into the River of God in experience. If we are just dipping our toes in, we won't have the faith to give that much yet, for we haven't proved God enough in our whole lives. And God knows and understands, and like a kindly Father is just anxious to get us to experiment more.
Experiencing the Seed
The more third level seed we experience. This is the Word of Christ "dwelling in us richly", either in us direct or as spoken to us by a thirdleveller/father ministry, the more our standard of measure changes on our insides.
This is what I wrote on my Facebook status this morning. It is what I woke up with.
In the third level it is Christ's seed,it is Christ Himself speaking through someone. Up until then there are spiritual gifts and people talking ABOUT Christ. What do you think Gideon's smashing of the pots was about? An olympic light festival? The Enemy did a runner. The Enemy is fine with waffle ABOUT Christ but CHRIST HIMSELF "I'm outta here!!"
The issue has always been a Third Level One : Has God Come In the Flesh? Peter said "Yes" and on that foundation the Church in the Earth first manifested.
The Heavenly Tabernacle described in Hebrews still stands. The Brazen Altar and the Laver Mirror is where you receive Christ's Seed of Life from above. The shewbread teaching about Christ and the Holy Spirit (gift) Candlesticks point to an existence of God coming in the flesh,but the Third Level LIVES it. This is an acacia box covered in gold within and without...our human boxes having a consciousness of Christ
The gospel that we share is simply Christ in us the hope of glory. All our giving is voluntary as the Holy Spirit indicates, and comes out of this essential freewill offering of Christ which included OUR DEATH and RESURRECTION IN HIM.
Give and It shall be given Unto you
What do you do as we career along in this life of the Spirit, and He dares to lead in new ways which we can't directly find spelled out in the Bible? Do you shut it off? Or do you adopt new practices as they seem to flow in the Holy Spirit?
Like women preaching and teaching.
Like Oral Roberts and Seed faith
Like Fire Tunnels which I experienced again in Lee On Solent this week.
Seed faith says that as we reach out to God for something that is totally beyond us, we give to the Lord but specifically "name" that seed. What is a seed gift but some money or possession that represents a certain amount of "man hours' labour" to earn? Or in Abrahamic terms,one of his "gifts" was his very own Child of Promise son, Isaac. Either way God honours us reaching out with any faith whatsoever. And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Imagine one side of God allowed to run forever and ever on a tape loop? And what you get is the Illuminati,the council of 300,the Bankers, the Elite who want everything their way and are planning to destroy ninetenths of the Earth so that all the resources remain theirs with a manageable serfdom administrating it all....the survivors under them.
Cherry Silcox on Facebook
Everyone!!! look at Elaine Waterfields' profile!!! This is a WOMAN on her OWN doing the WORK of THE LORD in DARKEST AFRICA!!!! she needs YOUR help so she can help the desperate people she ministers to!!
Elaine and George both did the climb up Kilimanjaro. You cannot just go up to the top without paying an enormous sum of money , which is hard enough for first world people, but absolutely impossible for most Kenyans and missionaries there. So they climbed halfway up.
Elaine is really real. She doesn't pretend. She is driven onward by her inward drive, and by reaching out to God in faith.(Think Jackie Pullinger) But from one day to the next her feelings about it all may go right up and down.
Yet she feels called by God to serve here, share her faith, and encourage others in a poor part of Kenya towards new ways of life, and ofcourse faith in God.
Facebook statuses
"WHEN I SEE ALL THAT gOD HAS DONE HERE ITS AWESOME THE FOOTBALL TOURNEMENT THE BUILDING THE LIVES SAVED IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS ITS GREAT TO BE APART OF IT. BUT THE STRUGGLES IS THE NEED THE TERRIBLE NEED AND VMONEY BECOMES SO MUCH APART OF IT AND I HATE MONEY I HATE IT. I ALSO HATE THE BEING SICK UNCERTAINTY AND LANGUAGE BARRIERS AND LONLINESS BUT THATS WHAT IS TAKING UP JESUS CROSS I ALSO HATE BEING IN DEBT BUT GOS KNOWS AND HE IS THE ATHOUR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH"
"when people in western world see people asking in third world for money they see with western world eyes with their wealth and how they liue but here in remote kenya they have nothing and poverty is extreme so whenwe say we need money we need money for medical education electricity and bed 4 wards rehab oqphanage etc its ouerwhelming but if we got some backers it would change a community especially as god is changing lives andwe empower them 2 help themselves i pray god will help us"
"laineeloo is so fed up being on her own single and uery lonely and prays that god will send along a mate whose fun loving and will join her as a mirsionary on her trauels"
"today another drinker nelson elderly man christopher and solomon came 2 the lord and we praise god for salvation so please pray 4 them we so need money 4 a rehab i pray joey and noel and trev will come here we so need donors 2 help the work here love laineeloo"
I refuse to let this discourage me, because I know deep within me Christ taking root in our being means that we become generous, and that to expect that in one weekend is silly, but I thought I'd just give feedback as to how this post has been received compared to all the other posts here.
In former times missionary giving was always couched in terms like this:
See what the Saviour has come and given us, leaving His glory behind and enduring humiliation even unto a Cross, so should we also give Him all we have.
And much good has come of this, except it isn't third level. It may be how just about every church runs on earth, especially instructing people that salvation comes through Jesus PLUS tithing, and then you will be saved. But this is NOT salvation and it is not third level giving.
So I'll say what third level giving is after quoting these verses.
Psalm110 The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'
2 The rod of thy strength doth Jehovah send from Zion, Rule in the midst of thine enemies.
3 Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning, Thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4 Jehovah hath sworn, and doth not repent, `Thou [art] a priest to the age, According to the order of Melchizedek.'Youngs Literal
This is the true vision of the Church. And the true vision out of which everything proceeds. We have a Risen Head. A Man in heaven. He is not now even a third level Man, a Father level person on earth, as described in 1 John 2 :12 ff, no, this Man is in His fourth stage, prefigured on the Mount of Transfiguration. This is FULLY GLORIFIED, FULLY RISEN MAN exercising Co-Dominion with the Father, and He is the firstborn of ALL CREATION, and ALL NEW CREATION, the first of an innumerable amount of brethren, THE FIRST FRUITS.....from the womb.....from the morning.
What womb?
What morning?
The womb of the sufferings of the Cross.
The Easter morning which is the same day when one single sheaf is waved as first fruits on the first day of the week at Passover.
What gospel missionaries only partially explained in previous times was the victory of Christ and exhorted us to be "like Him", completely missing the point of the Cross.
Were it just to forgive sins, all well and good, but it isn't just to forgive sins.
There were TWO GOATS that were sacrificed to describe this.
One goat was offered for sin and was totally burned up.
A second goat was sent as a scapegoat out from the midst of Israel into the wastes of the wilderness.
Jesus NOT ONLY took all our sins, He bore us away too. He took our essential Adamic spirit identities right down to where they naturally gravitated,hell, and left the Adamic spirit of death right there, then
bound up with Him , He redeemed our spirits that were lost and bound in Darkness, and caught them up in Himself in a New Creation Man.
Our lives are "hidden" Greek...interwoven , interleaved with Christ in GOD.
OUR "I AM's" , our spirits, are hidden with Christ in God. Done deal.
It's just hardly anybody knows......even Christians too.
So this is the source of confusion about giving.
Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning,
We do not give gifts really. We do not tithe, that is, the Old Covenant behaviour of tithing
WE ARE the freewill gifts.
And out from our identity as the freewill gifts, comes everything we do as Christians. A part of which is giving.
Oh, Chris, the pastors say, that is idealistic. If I trusted and relied on people getting this revelation of giving then I'd be out of a church and I'd have to get a job.
To which I reply...."And the problem is....?
Just about all of us on Facebook work. All our activities of blogging , using Twitter or Facebook are voluntary.
What I believe is this. We are the household of faith. As the Other-Love, Giving of Self to Others, Revelation of Christ's Giving Person, Our new identity in Him, busts out of our new created spirits and takes over more and more of our souls.....so we LIVE full time in this revelation
We are GOING to HAVE no trouble at all in supporting people with Word to share full-time, as they did in Acts, and as they supported Jesus in the gospels. Freewill offerings.
Meanwhile....
although 1980s charismatics don't yet understand the thirdlevel foundation of our giving, they have been learning some precious spiritual principles.
People who live and move in the Melchizedek Order, listening to and seeing what the Master is doing (Psalm 123) and put themselves out on a limb by faith, these are "the sons of God". Those who are led by the Spirit, these are sons of God.Romans 8:14 This is the new priesthood who serve day and night in the house of God. "We are a holy nation,a royal priesthood" 1 Peter 2:9
The Household of faith
Galations 6:10 Interlinear - "so then as occasion we have we should work good toward all but especially toward those of the household - of the- of faith"
It is the household of faith who we give to PRIMARILY. There is a Melchizedek blessing, a special blessing of God for those who give to the household of faith.
Tithing may have worked in the approximate settings of the Nation of Israel, but "a Greater has now come" who now serves in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Ministers who still live from tithes are living in the Old Covenant. They are NOT really the household of faith. Telling people that they must give tithes, then living from this collection of tenths of income.....well....you may as well be a salaried employee of Inland Revenue, because that is all you are doing.
People like Jackie Pullinger To when she started out in Hong Kong, and Elaine Waterfield are putting their lives on the line. It is a different order of giving. It is giving yourself lock stock and barrel to the Lord for your existence.
But as Jessie Duplantis said when talking on this subject. There are people you give to and the blessing does not rebound in the same way. You try it with Elaine Waterfield and Rich Novek, who has just launched himself out in this wayof faith. There is an anointing upon God's work done in God's way.
George Mueller proved to us as a forerunner of our current move, that you don't even have to tell people. In reality there IS NO LAW how we do things. For each it is up to the Holy Spirit to indicate. People can only give according to their standard of measure.
The standard of measure
This is way too weird for those who think their entire brain consists of their articulate reasoning. What about the way music hits you then? Articulate that to me? Sure we can give brief descriptions, but neither music nor the Presence of the Lord can be articulated that well, because that bit of our vessel that articulates wasn't made for picking up things like faith, dreams,"the single eye" that Jesus talks about....all this is understood by spirit and uses different parts of our being.
So the standard of measure is very related to how big our vision of God is. It is related also to what part of the Heavenly Tabernacle we most relate to...to the extent also we have entered into the River of God in experience. If we are just dipping our toes in, we won't have the faith to give that much yet, for we haven't proved God enough in our whole lives. And God knows and understands, and like a kindly Father is just anxious to get us to experiment more.
Experiencing the Seed
The more third level seed we experience. This is the Word of Christ "dwelling in us richly", either in us direct or as spoken to us by a thirdleveller/father ministry, the more our standard of measure changes on our insides.
This is what I wrote on my Facebook status this morning. It is what I woke up with.
In the third level it is Christ's seed,it is Christ Himself speaking through someone. Up until then there are spiritual gifts and people talking ABOUT Christ. What do you think Gideon's smashing of the pots was about? An olympic light festival? The Enemy did a runner. The Enemy is fine with waffle ABOUT Christ but CHRIST HIMSELF "I'm outta here!!"
The issue has always been a Third Level One : Has God Come In the Flesh? Peter said "Yes" and on that foundation the Church in the Earth first manifested.
The Heavenly Tabernacle described in Hebrews still stands. The Brazen Altar and the Laver Mirror is where you receive Christ's Seed of Life from above. The shewbread teaching about Christ and the Holy Spirit (gift) Candlesticks point to an existence of God coming in the flesh,but the Third Level LIVES it. This is an acacia box covered in gold within and without...our human boxes having a consciousness of Christ
The gospel that we share is simply Christ in us the hope of glory. All our giving is voluntary as the Holy Spirit indicates, and comes out of this essential freewill offering of Christ which included OUR DEATH and RESURRECTION IN HIM.
Give and It shall be given Unto you
What do you do as we career along in this life of the Spirit, and He dares to lead in new ways which we can't directly find spelled out in the Bible? Do you shut it off? Or do you adopt new practices as they seem to flow in the Holy Spirit?
Like women preaching and teaching.
Like Oral Roberts and Seed faith
Like Fire Tunnels which I experienced again in Lee On Solent this week.
Seed faith says that as we reach out to God for something that is totally beyond us, we give to the Lord but specifically "name" that seed. What is a seed gift but some money or possession that represents a certain amount of "man hours' labour" to earn? Or in Abrahamic terms,one of his "gifts" was his very own Child of Promise son, Isaac. Either way God honours us reaching out with any faith whatsoever. And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Like anything, it can be us rubbing an Aladdin's Lamp in the delusion that we are a self-powered self, and God is at our beck and call. It's amazing how quickly God can disabuse us of this idea. But when we are confident of who we really are....now Christ in our form, in our personlality, in our body....all these spiritual "ways" are ours.....or "no activity at all"....just believing.
But God DOES name and bless spiritual activities that mean nothing after the flesh.....like
baptism in water
and breaking of bread.
Giving is a great "spiritual activity"
Not only is it great to give to God and other people, but God attaches special promises to it. Now my Facebook friend is a musician by temperament and he once wrote that we should be able to just give, and not expect stuff in return, for that means we are only giving to get, and that isn't giving at all. Well that's a musician's way of looking at things, content to make beautiful sounds all day. And my temperament is similar.However thankfully some of us are expressors of another part of God's personality: God the Entrepreneur, God the Developer and Multiplyer and Fruit Harvester. For this side of God the former talk is just way too airy fairy. So you see God is both. God is the Guardian Reader Leftie and the hardbitten Industrialist Telegraph reader Conservative.God is the God of Proverbs and prosperous businesses and farms and families, and God is also the God of the Jubilee Year when all property and money loans are called in.Giving is a great "spiritual activity"
Imagine one side of God allowed to run forever and ever on a tape loop? And what you get is the Illuminati,the council of 300,the Bankers, the Elite who want everything their way and are planning to destroy ninetenths of the Earth so that all the resources remain theirs with a manageable serfdom administrating it all....the survivors under them.
So God gives this promise. He says "Try Me". Give and it shall be given unto you, pressed down,running over, shall it be returned to you.
It's not always money. It's the WHOLE OF YOU. "I came that you should have life and life more abundantly." We think we are giving Him something when we give Him our life. So the first bit of Christianity is learning we are in fact nothing. Nothing but containers. before we were containers filled with Satan's false spirit of the Delusion of being self-powered, but it was really Satan. Self for self. Moving out of "survival"
Once God has eaten us out of house and home, and learned that we were never anything in our own right.....He then ADDS to us, pressed down, packed with abundance....Heaven's endless supply warehouses!!!!!! All accessed by faith....THE FAITH of the Son of God. Who Now lives within us.
Intercessory Trigger for Revival
If you have read Yonghi Cho of South Korea you will know that his vision only came to pass when a small old lady shuffled to the front, gave her only possession, a beaten up rice bowl with herself balanced precariously on it or around it. This so moved a millionnaire, that he offered to buy the bowl for a huge sum of money. And this was the trigger for the great church in Seoul. Which has become a mother church for so many around the world.
The Welsh revival began not with money or a gift....but the "giving" of a very reluctant confession of sinfulness by a teenage girl in the face of all the people she knew around her.
Elaine has already had national impact through Kenya television and meeting the Prime Minister two weeks ago. In the Spirit, though no official organisation will touch her or adopt her, just as to start with no organisation would touch Norman Grubb's latest materials, or Jackie Pullinger's early work in Hong Kong....yet Elaine has been faithful to sow in every bit of money left over from what she inherited at Nigel her husband's death.
It's not always money. It's the WHOLE OF YOU. "I came that you should have life and life more abundantly." We think we are giving Him something when we give Him our life. So the first bit of Christianity is learning we are in fact nothing. Nothing but containers. before we were containers filled with Satan's false spirit of the Delusion of being self-powered, but it was really Satan. Self for self. Moving out of "survival"
Once God has eaten us out of house and home, and learned that we were never anything in our own right.....He then ADDS to us, pressed down, packed with abundance....Heaven's endless supply warehouses!!!!!! All accessed by faith....THE FAITH of the Son of God. Who Now lives within us.
Intercessory Trigger for Revival
If you have read Yonghi Cho of South Korea you will know that his vision only came to pass when a small old lady shuffled to the front, gave her only possession, a beaten up rice bowl with herself balanced precariously on it or around it. This so moved a millionnaire, that he offered to buy the bowl for a huge sum of money. And this was the trigger for the great church in Seoul. Which has become a mother church for so many around the world.
The Welsh revival began not with money or a gift....but the "giving" of a very reluctant confession of sinfulness by a teenage girl in the face of all the people she knew around her.
Elaine has already had national impact through Kenya television and meeting the Prime Minister two weeks ago. In the Spirit, though no official organisation will touch her or adopt her, just as to start with no organisation would touch Norman Grubb's latest materials, or Jackie Pullinger's early work in Hong Kong....yet Elaine has been faithful to sow in every bit of money left over from what she inherited at Nigel her husband's death.
This is a completely different foundation for giving to someone like Elaine....and you just see what happens!!!!
Cherry Silcox on Facebook
23 July
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ACTION
*DIRECT
If you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
* VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
Elaine and George both did the climb up Kilimanjaro. You cannot just go up to the top without paying an enormous sum of money , which is hard enough for first world people, but absolutely impossible for most Kenyans and missionaries there. So they climbed halfway up.
Elaine is really real. She doesn't pretend. She is driven onward by her inward drive, and by reaching out to God in faith.(Think Jackie Pullinger) But from one day to the next her feelings about it all may go right up and down.
Yet she feels called by God to serve here, share her faith, and encourage others in a poor part of Kenya towards new ways of life, and ofcourse faith in God.
Facebook statuses
"WHEN I SEE ALL THAT gOD HAS DONE HERE ITS AWESOME THE FOOTBALL TOURNEMENT THE BUILDING THE LIVES SAVED IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS ITS GREAT TO BE APART OF IT. BUT THE STRUGGLES IS THE NEED THE TERRIBLE NEED AND VMONEY BECOMES SO MUCH APART OF IT AND I HATE MONEY I HATE IT. I ALSO HATE THE BEING SICK UNCERTAINTY AND LANGUAGE BARRIERS AND LONLINESS BUT THATS WHAT IS TAKING UP JESUS CROSS I ALSO HATE BEING IN DEBT BUT GOS KNOWS AND HE IS THE ATHOUR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH"
"when people in western world see people asking in third world for money they see with western world eyes with their wealth and how they liue but here in remote kenya they have nothing and poverty is extreme so whenwe say we need money we need money for medical education electricity and bed 4 wards rehab oqphanage etc its ouerwhelming but if we got some backers it would change a community especially as god is changing lives andwe empower them 2 help themselves i pray god will help us"
"laineeloo is so fed up being on her own single and uery lonely and prays that god will send along a mate whose fun loving and will join her as a mirsionary on her trauels"
"today another drinker nelson elderly man christopher and solomon came 2 the lord and we praise god for salvation so please pray 4 them we so need money 4 a rehab i pray joey and noel and trev will come here we so need donors 2 help the work here love laineeloo"
"Laineeloo has a request what we need is surgical gloves and plastic covers for shoes, and anything thats helps in Midwifery. We also need a delivery couch. Yesterday we had a woman giving birth and its really difficult for Sarah to help in labour when the woman is laying on the floor also without proper medical wear and protection its really concerning me as HIV?AIDS is so high here and Hep A,B,C Can anyone Help Sarah even wih medical equipment its urgently needed here in a remote part of Suna Migori"
"so much has happened in the last year doing things i never thought and meeting people like the judge who sentenced suddam 2 death but nobody wants 2 no wat god has been doing because i am laineeloo or they think i am lying or i am a nobody not in the big christian scene but god knows and hears my prayers and i praise him for how is using me
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Emma Mcglynn Your a Giant, and we are all blessed by what God has been doing in your life and how you have stepped out in Faith. You have been a great Testimony and Servant and Helper and Encourager and far more than you realise. Thank you for sharing all your accounts and photos of your Mission and pray for me! Love Emma. xx23 July at 14:55 · · 1
Elaine Waterfield thank u emma but i wud like 2 say thank u 2 all the missionaries who work 4 the lord nobody nos about who work tiresly 4 the lord from uk 2 timbuck 2 without them people wud be lost so many big names get praise butwat about prison chaplains and vicars pastors on the front line
James Lornie Elaine you have no need for manly fame, the LORD OUR GOD will accliam you in his time, and when you are ready keep true to your promise give me the work, and I shall do it and that is just what your doing chin up keep your promise and God will keep his OK. xx
23 July at 16:45 · · 1
Cherry Silcox You ARE a BLESSING!!! and a CHAMPION!!!! a GREAT testimony to ALL who see and hear what God is doing thru you!!!!
Elaine Waterfield jim what i meant was that so many big orgaqisations could hekp prax 4 people i haue met but dont want 2 no because i am a nobody i haue alwaxs struggled whth bg keaderrs pastors thex will not euen speak 2 u on fb but god knows and prouides and sends hekp from the sanctuary from many louely penple "" i have got 2 the point where i am defeated. We have done all we can as we build hopes up at schools with girls and giving them pads. Go round community groups but with no money even for light bulbs now we are getting electric or beds for the labour ward its pointless. George gave up his job 2 do this work and i have no real income what we do is from the heart and own pocket. If we had a donor or charity who could give us a lot of money then we could out small loans 2 groups 4 seeds then pay the loan off when crops grow or buy seeds and give gift for school fee. We spent more money on kilamanjaro walk than what was sponsered. So we so want 2 change community but we just need god 2 provide a donor such is the endless need here up and until then we are stranded"
If you have time read more of her story in Kenya , with more photographs.
ACTION (REPEAT)
*DIRECTIf you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
* VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
I refuse to let this discourage me, because I know deep within me Christ taking root in our being means that we become generous, and that to expect that in one weekend is silly, but I thought I'd just give feedback as to how this post has been received compared to all the other posts here.
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