OY ,Us Marks and Johns have a job to do

 

The Bible is about being born again from above and receiving the Holy Spirit. But already in the natural two quartiles are born quite naturally manifesting  two spontaneous attributes of the Kingdom.

The prophetic realm cuts right across the social realm . There is perhaps no more alarming story than 1 Kings 13. The disobedient prophet. Make that TWO!!!!!

But here from Facebook is the post from this morning written 1st July 2026
The St John quartile , Meyers Briggs INFJ ,Surrounded by Idiots book yellow ,
Leviticus 23:40 Willow Tree , melancolic ( of the choleric sanguine pragmatic group) the Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10, Revelation 4 Eagle face .......

Or ADHD weirdo if we are reading Tavistock institute outward appearances tosh .

If you suspect yourself a truther mix or a pure single focus fourth quartile like St John in our Bibles then we have a job to do .

The Mark quartile and John quartiles are the first to model the sufferings that go with spontaneous living in a draco pyramid culture.

Ask my Mum about politics as a Mark Luke quartile and she knew it was ridiculous . As well as the artificial pecking order layers of class and money corporation measurement .

So this is way before we get to Yes I Am by Norman Grubb and his phrase " the Freefall of faith ".

So Marks curate the realm of love which has galvanising advantages .
We John types curate truth which is more on the side of the Jesus who lays the axe to the root and phrases like ' I dont come to bring peace but a sword ' . This is all hugely offensive to Mark types.

For current examples
Black Lives Matter seems so good to Mark Types
Johns discern the Communist device of critical race theory . It's to break sovereignty .

Same with borders.
Marks just have an open door policy . Its how they are built . But its one of the last adjustments that happen in the last chapter of Song of Songs with the ' little sister '.

Closing doors isnt right .
Having open doors isnt right.
The due process of law and vetting entrants is a more secure way .

USA gives itself away having Soros control it like a puppet letting in all kinds of foreigners including a sleeper army while locking up an evangelist ministering the gospel and gifts of the Spirit for 16months ( Torben Sondergaard ) and USA doing absolutely nothing.
Same with Wilfrid Wong in Fosse Way prison UK .
A former solicitor turned activist against UK missing and abused children of the Satanist cabal system .

The Double Bind , Satan's removal of choice , and God's Provision of Choice

 The Telegram Group  Exposing Satanic Ritual Abuse and Max Lowen's Unbrokendotglobal  website will periodically cover the occult double bind .

This is a Satanic presentation of a no choice choice . Often this is presented to children in the System or kidnapped children to make them choose a Satanic path to bind their lives and in particular to get a spoken ' I will do this for Satan'.

Whether occult or normie we have to revisit these deep inner I wills to Satan with the Holy Spirit so they are renounced and we are set free .³

Conversely this earth is to give us a choice of living eternally choosing God's will or deciding to follow our will as a supposed independent self , which strangely , as we discover from the bad fruit , was a seduction into some part of a Satanic way.

So Jews had to decide whether they heard God's confirmation of His Son at His Jordan baptism or was it thunder ?

Was Jesus committing blasphemy or was He indeed God's Son sent to take away the sin of the world by being crucified as Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 predicted.

In my Galatians 2.20 walk if I am led away there's always a choice .....to see that wrong has been committed .....or to go with the humanly invented reason to cover ' God not going on at all ' in the real intention.

Investigate  why Watchman Nee ended up awhile as a pharmacist  then teaching us about the watchmen in Song of Songs chapter 5.

Investigate how Norman Grubb , the founder of WEC with CT Studd  , a bit like Jesus , gets squeezed out of his own ministry . 

While the still Genesis 3 independent self ridden ' presentation church ' operates its corporation style ministries ....because its a fake form of putting on a hobbit ring , it must have some Mordor in its wake and its the true ministries that get struck. But this itself is  the Hebrews 13.13 walk that is Christ laying Himself down in order to release some more manifestation of His already complete legal victory at the Cross o these famous Ezekiel eyes that range through the earth and are the Body on earth and on heaven, see the injustices in the Spirit and see how misdeeds are being covered.

None of us get away with anything . For a start we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses.  Secondly ....even if we dont perceive the details , the question is will we be truthful ? Or just say nothing ? Or just wilfully choose to say it thundered and lie .

Or that the crack soldiers put to guard Jesus tomb all fell asleep .

Or that Covid and the vaxxes was a staged event similar to man ,  the evangelist Barry Smith met who had been tasked with introducing the AIDS phials into Africa.

 

While Mike Winger...

While Mike Winger is being used to be the lynchpin for all those abused  by the  charismatic covering doctrine ....hmmm I just wrote lynchpin as an expression .....thats a serious word......

Anyhoo I just want you to know there's a place beyond 

Power alone 

Satan heavenly worship services 

Samson blasting his way through to 2 gouged out eyes 

King Saul Statue building in the valley 

Matthew 25 one flask of oil people 

Pyramid rule 

Jews who say they are but are not .

How do I know . Well look at  Zechariah 4.

There's  pyramid type MOUNTAIN in the earth that gets spoken to.

There's a Capstone that gets placed on  God's New Build  with shouts of .......wait for it 

TWO GRACES .

YUP....

Not the European Catholic one grace 

Not the English Anglican  one grace 

Not the Evangelical  it's all over now except for  the rapture .....Holy Spirit's gone home now church.

Not the pyramid network Pentecostal Charismatic triumphant sleep with your congregation church

No .....it's the message Norman Grubb , co founder of Worldwide Evangelistic Crusade brought as they squeezed him out of his mission . I know 12 disciples who did that , although one hung around looking at the fruit of his denial .

Now Get This ......Norman was led to call his final co sharers of the fully grown up but not very powerful 1 John 2 father level group ......Zerubbabel .

AND ZERUBBABEL IS RIGHT THERE .....watching a shrivelling mountain and TWO GRACES being shared properly for the first time since the New Testament .

Every Church is wrong on earth and manifests the Egypt they still are by their undead solo ministry heads .

Unless a Seed ......this must be right because John Stevens blog says so . Unlessaseed.com

Prophesy to the Breath 

And say 

Come , from the FOUR WINDS* .....one for each of the LEVITICUS 23.40 FOUR WOODS of the self building IKEA flat pack ECCLESIA . EPHESIANS 4.15-16

When all the  people across earth are ready to finally do ecclesia instead of rabbi synagogue ....

Pull your willies**out of your chorister's mother and come to the real building site .....

2 Timothy 2:19

Having this seal 

THE LORD KNOWS ( SPIRITUALLY MAKES LOVE ) TO THOSE WHO ARE HIS 

( AND IN THE DIVINE POWER OF THAT ) THEY DEPART FROM INIQUITY .

*Ezekiel 37.9-10

** if you think this is un Christian you should see God's idea of an Old Covenant logo .

You Convert the soul.....

 

How Truly Big This All is ?

 

And the Moravians Sang On....

If you look at Lutheran faith after 1000 years of Catholicism you couldn't have even imagined such a changeover during the period leading up to it .

What is the changeover ? The personalisation of the Cross to me . The finished nature of Christ's work .

Through personalisation and the translation of the Bible at last ....at least for those who can read or learn reading through the Bible ......politics changes . Steady state science begins based on the  investigation of God's order in creation .

God's Presence is always and everywhere there .

We have to remember that in the so called Dark ages of Catholicism . People will look back and are  starting to , to label the Enlightenment as the Endarkenment , because human minds were dumbed down from all spirituality whatsoever .

And as we are spirit , as any Eastern faith will teach , this is essentially insanity .

So at regular intervals there were revivals and the Wesley and Whitfield one was decades long and at least one was a product of meeting Moravians on a ship . Moravians were a product of 100 years prayer meeting. There's a surge of pure God energy in that very connection .

Likewise nobody could envision the changeover that happened through Pentecostalism , the rediscovery of baptism in the Spirit .

It is the Holy Spirit who makes the New Covenant work. It is one of the central themes of Jesus last preach to the disciples in the Passover Meal ....that and the oft repeated " Whatsoever you ask in My Name shall be done for you ".

We just had no clear OFF THE GENESIS 3 LYING PLATFORM idea of what the dicke-ns " In my Name meant "

Gathering in My Name became experiential in Baptism in the Spirit . People were learning first hand to do things with the powers of the age to come and it can only work with some notion of prayerful knowing of when the Holy Spirit is leading us personally .

But how to do that outside meetings ?

How are we losing God ? What's dissipating ?

That's the third level discoveries of Cambridge mind Norman Grubb put to work on the subject , within running a world mission WEC for 60 years .

Nobody could have previsaged what could happen through Luther'simple restatement of the Brazen Altar Door way of Christ's Cross through whom multitudes poured through Lutheranism .

Nobody could have previsaged the millions converted through the work of the Holy Spirit in the last 100 years , and especially the work of Bonnke in Africa , leading one in every 100th inhabitant of the planet to the Lord ....80million plus .

Nobody could even dream of that in 1900 before the 1904 outpourings .

But what then , the combination of first stage , second stage and third stage growth of Christianity able to completely reverse Genesis 3 itself across the planet . Not just by the cheapskate message of a return to spirituality in New Age ....which is nothing more than meditating down into and further strengthening and confirming our own possession in Kundilini , the snake , the reptilean .....

No, this is believing upon Christ's export of the whole snake condition , and the whole self run I Will Thelema from the devil himself ...,.who then just leeches off us until our deaths ......

No .....out of here Devil .

Jesus the Lamb who yes takes away sins .....but legacy  churches , evangelical churches and Charismatic churches are also just as cheapskate as New Age ......they never specify and Ringfence Genesis 3.

Jesus is the scapegoat .

He is the Lamb and scapegoat who takes out quite literally the One Sin of Satan that there ever was ....

Living outside of God .

If you ask anything in My Name it shall be done for you .

And if there is a Church that believe all that we truly are in the upper realms of psalms of Ascent 

Psalm 133 and 134

Psalm 149

Psalm 24

Psalm 110 and in THE DAY OF GREAT POWER .

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Posted as a stream on Facebook Saturday 21st June 2025

The Coming of the Son of Man

Ruth Carter Stapleton

  There's a couple of philosophies out there , with a middling Christian realm .

Jeanette Archer represents those who say they know and remember where they come from .

She is now completely mission minded , knowing her mission was to be sent to bring down the Satanic realm of blood sacrifice .

Max Lowen speaks similarly , but of having been involved in warfare in one of her previous lives .

We as Christians are kind of stuck with the theology of the Bible that says it is appointed once to die and then comes judgment . No two cracks at this life . It blunts the edge off our one time purpose . So reincarnation is either a dud ,diversion philosophy or it's true and everybody has to sign that one out . Are Eastern mystical , and spirit faiths correct or is it as Richard Dawkins would say , mindless fantasy and dreams ? Richard would represent the far extreme of highly moral , son of Anglicans who believe the grave and mechanical two brain halves death is it . Finish .

In the middle we have the Mark Quartile , the Mirror Bible , which is about REMEMBERING our pre Adamic state . Mike Parsons has strong mystical experiences as do many who have moved with the new waves of the Holy Spirit .

Jeanette is interesting because unlike any of us normies .....who have no understanding whatsoever about

Being killed and brought back....which is a routine occult practice with their kids

Conversed with the beings under the earth in Deep Underground Bases , having been caged there for weeks and months

Having been forced to participate in the very worst killfests of the solstices and the Satanic high days and Halloween , (which normies think is just a fun game ).......to even be speaking normally and not in some kind of moanie voice is a major miracle .

Max Lowen , Svali, Gloria Masters , Rachel Vaughan and an increasing army of survivors are like this . Too many to mention .

The true realm as the Bible depicts it , is the end goal is

The Son of Man ....who since Jesus as a Man in the Passover upper room was glorified as Man , ( Philippians 2 describes His whole path leaving the glory of God behind and putting on human flesh )

and He sowed that state He'd arrived at into the ground more or less straight away ......

I'd have at least had a victory bus tour like a returning footballer .

And having practiced on various other people ,not least being led to arrive four days late with Lazarus , Jesus was now in faith over His own Body .

He announced He would be raised on the third day .

Now when a seed goes into the ground , and that Seed is the Son of Man ....Man 2.0.....God Divinely putting His Son in the likeness of human flesh but without sin , into Mary's womb .....that Son of Man .....

Gets multiplied up in His Resurrection .

So the end goal as Jacob saw fuzzily as a Ladder , then Jesus announced plainly as the Son of Man with angels ascending and descending upon Him ,is now .....and Billy Graham certainly never Evangelised this bit ..... Graham Pulkingham announced in this precise context that this is what church or better said ecclesia now is .

The very Body of Christ . The very many membered Son of Man whose Head is live , now in heaven .

Which helps also with the concept of the Melchizedek order Book of Hebrews says , we serve in .

Graham Pulkingham wasn't invited back to our Baptist Church !!!!

That event is covered better in a blog post here.

( It's truly hilarious even today 52 years later that an Episcopal rector gets banned from a 'heretical Baptist church that believes in adult baptism' ,for being heretical . Isn't that fun ?)

Now things changed big time with Alpha Courses and Spring Harvest conferences in the Anglican Church . But Graham Pulkingham spoke with that resurrection edge of a man caught out on his episcopalean fraudulence of ever thinking that a middle class rector could ever meet the needs of inner city dysfunction . Basically his ministry in the flesh died inside 3 months weeping on his crypt floor .

God raised up something . It was a God thing .

It's what I call the psalm 122 miracle ....Jerusalem compacted together .

Paul calls it being Baptised through the sea and under the Cloud .

Dietrich Bonhoeffer writes in a similar ecclesia way .

Community of God , is Body , is a miracle .

It's not a charismatic team . It's not a Charismatic team ministry .

Team is an American thing that South Park creators lampoon in Team America .

Bible House were at the beginnings of something happening in Emsworth. Greater than teams .

Body .

I've got more articulation now .....after observing the Darmstadt sisters of Mary in 74, Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk coming to our school for a week 1973....then the formations in the Spirit beginning to happen in Bible House .

The thing Mother Basilea Schlink and Graham Pulkingham preach , that Norman Grubb clarifies even more is Romans 6 to 8 . His booklet is on the LHS of my blog ,called by that name.

We are Baptised as ecclesia into that " seeing " , that revelation that sets our spirit free .

Yes , I know where the body is there the eagles gather can be about destructive forces of Persecution ....like the way they persecuted the first church out of Jerusalem .

But the thing that best describes the pupae process of a caterpillar and best describes being formed functionally Into the Son of Man is .....

Where the dead body of the revealing of flesh life of our Adamic is happening ....or the Romans 6 to 8 process ......there , some eagles are fixing to take off . ( Those who wait upon( Hebrew entwine with , Colossians 3.3 - icate) with the Lord shall renew their strength ......shall mount up as eagles )

We shall know the Truth ....means our festering flesh stuff reveals itself as figleaves are delicately removed.......but we shall know the truth also of our complete acacia box covering inside and out with gold .

Ecclesia isn't so different from family " who knew you when "......but it's way more glorious because it's supernatural stuff that we can't do .

So when I went to Worcester Cathedral

When I went to Yeldall Manor Reading to see the Fisherfolk community I was buzzing for at least 4 to 5 days with that resurrection tingle .

While we get excited meeting people ......only God stuff irradiates your being with glory .

Which kind of brings me to what God is doing .

Great Christian conferences do similar things .

But Acts Jerusalem Church was permanent .

As long as they could be there .....several years ....

they seem to have been holding open heaven .

People were added daily .

They went into homes ...taught ,broke bread ....I can only guess because it was like Jesus Move in people's houses ......

Americans lost the plot 400years ago .

They came over as communities because they wanted freedom from pesky Catholics and Anglicans to begin learning Kingdom on earth.

Kingdom addresses the 3 devil hooks he has going holding him here using the bogus Genesis 3 lie .....which are the three major issues inside the Lords Prayer.

At some point Americans stayed Baptist , welcomed the Catholics and Episcopaleans back ,all joined together in Freemasonry , created a proxy king system called President , and just gave Body of Christ up as an unworkable thing .

Norman Grubb arrived in the 80s having been squeezed out of his very own mission organisation .....who else did that happen to???yup ...Jesus and with people like Jimmy Carter's sister Ruth Carter Stapleton , began encouraging Americans that Christianity does work but there are three growth stages .

Brits are still quibbling being born again .

This is the master key .

This is what makes City on a Hill work .

This is what we should have discovered in Bible House to get us beyond Gene Edwards and Ed Miller fluffiness of articulation .

This is what the 4 gospels , Acts , 1 John 1 and 2, Romans , Ephesians and Hebrews and the verse Revelation 12.1 is on about .

This is THE MOON BEING UNDER OUR FEET .

Francois DuToit Mirror Bible is accurate but he and Andre Rabe don't cover the 2nd Goat ....the scapegoat .

They don't cover any real nastiness at all .

They have probably never listened to 50 Voices to get any of that side of the story .

Their ministry attracts 50% of Christians ,usually the Marks and Lukes .

The Matthews go apoplectic and the Johns say like St John ......NO .....UNLESS A SPIRIT ACKNOWLEDGES JESUS AS LORD AND JESUS IS GOD COME IN THE FLESH....YOU CAN FLUFF THE GOSPEL UP AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE CONCERNING OUR ORIGINATION......

EVEN STRESS THAT GOD OUR CREATOR IS THE ONLY ONE GOING ON AS LIFE , LOVE AND SOURCE ANYWHERE ......

But unless we know our choice is tradesmen knowing what is in tune or not as a piano tuner ,we are going to go completely off piste in heaven like the devil did .

We have to know what we are choosing .

Jesus is quite deliberate about getting us to choose to put on a Saviour .

Covid Vaxxes were just a mini version .

Those who chose to stay with the Nuremberg code had to fiercely choose that because the socalled MRNA therapies DO CROSS into our DNA coding ,just like Monsanto grain modification.

This kind of permanence is indeed some sort of Revelation 13 precursor . The Mark or piercing or tattoo of the Beast .

Nothing but Matthew Mark Luke and John is a whole counsel .

Marks and Luke's can be way too cuddly .

Matthews and Johns can be way too Jonah and end up sulking under a withered tree .

The Son of Man with angels ascending and descending upon Him .

Well, Can Christians have demons?

Are you aware that Pete Cabrera Jr has been challenging folk on Facebook to give a scriptural basis for deliverance of born again Christians, which has provoked much talk on the subject. I shared what Josh Adkins wrote last night in reply. This is me coming from a Norman Grubb type of angle.

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The teaching of Norman Grubb based on scripture is that the big deliverance is us moving from Darkness to Light.
Have you not pondered on Jewish history?
If humans were constructing it as Tavistock Institute regularly states ( it’s thought up by committee).....errrr NOT

If humans were constructing it, as in the Muslim faith or the Mormon faith ....
there would be no long “ lead time” from Abraham to Moses.
Also , if humanly designed , why bother with three progenitor patriarchs? And to this day even eminent theologians like NT Wright don’t really “ get” why there’s Abraham Isaac and Jacob and why there’s a 1 John 2.

So that’s why I am saying , if so few get what God is doing , now , after thousands of years, there’s absolutely no way a committee of men designed the history of the Jews. If you are atheist , sit down quietly with the Bible itself, and try to open your heart to the Holy Spirit enlightened scriptures themselves, without prejudice, and like many of us you will be more and more overwhelmed by the reality, the detail and the truth.

I digress.
There is a long lead time , which also is accurately prophesied through Abraham.
This new people.
Who have taken the Name of God through their progenitors....
spend 400 years or so in Egypt, before their deliverance even happens.

This is so for many Christians. We kind of decide for Jesus, maybe at an altar rail. Maybe it’s kind of intellectual.
It’s a bit like Terah deciding to move his family out of Ur. But the guy is never mentioned again as important. Covenant begins with the faith of Abraham , Terahs son.

Likewise , as a people, from the forefathers on they have taken the Name of Jehovah to themselves, but they haven’t a clue really of how much they need the Lord and need his deliverance.

But when Moses finally delivered the people through God’s miraculous power, and in particular crossed the Red Sea on dry land, their enemies , the Egyptians , never came back.

As God confirms our salvation to us individually, in the manner unique to us and our personal need of deliverance,
we are talking about our spirit moving from Darkness to Light. To a deep repentance which is a gift of God. To an experience of being born again inwardly at the Cross.

I mean , flipping eck, how long was John Wesley a missionary with the Anglican Church out in America before he even got born again, through meeting genuine Moravian believers and having the “ divine warming” experience in Oxford, which if not his actual rebirth was his baptism in the Spirit and fire.

Well the Jews were “ baptised through the Red Sea, but it says , under the Cloud....
so they had a Cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night which they followed.

But Exodus, Deuteronomy Leviticus and Numbers is about further deliverances and miracles as their former manner of life as a people was challenged with no distractions, in the wilderness.

In what way could we say they are being delivered? The main deliverance happened the Night of Passover and their flight through the Red Sea.
No , these practices, and changes were happening in their souls , as Josh Adkins relays.

When we are born again , our former slavery operator, our former fusion with Satan at spirit level is broken forever. We experience the entrance of our new created being at spirit level in Jesus Christ.

But thereafter our pattern of inward seeing, our attitudes, our soul thoughts and feelings need to be conformed to the New Person in our spirit, JESUS CHRIST.

But, John says in his letter, we can encourage ourselves with this. Because our new Lord and Owner who came inside us is an agape, unconditional love type of Lover, we find immediately we have new love for people that just wasn’t there before. It’s spontaneous and not forced.
This the apostle says is great encouragement to us while the rest is going on.

So do we need to cast out demons? Well not from the spirits of born again Christians, but whatever you call the confrontations with the Light of the Holy Spirit “ judging “ and “ casting out” darknesses from our
high speculations against God
our “ beliefs in Darkness” which we usually call fear and terror.... but that’s what it is , whether intellectually or in our hearts still in our souls, these are beliefs in the devil being stronger than God.
our unruly pulls of the flesh, to lust for things,people , money
cycles of behaviour and bursts of anger which may be in our generational lines for literally yes, generations
addictions
idleness
inaction/passivity regarding confronting evil, or regarding loving and helping our own families

These deliverances are real however we get them.
Gods norm in Acts is for a new born church to be living with each other and sharing regularly in the context of everybody’s life together.
Walking in the Light.

There’s scarcely a normal church on earth.
We have clubs with chairmen who are called pastors, priests or vicars.

But we are the Church of the Living God.
We are the priests.
We are the kings
We are the new international nation of these things.

United Nations , Freemasonry, the Great Work, the thousand points of Light, the Enlightenment is all a ripoff of the genuine article. An attempt at self deliverance without a deliverer.

We have Jesus Christ who is the only one able and worthy of being a Deliverer, because He as a man, faced down the spirits of Darkness and rule of this planet and absolutely won hands down, and proved it by marching back in after his own death for heavens sake, three days later .
He has abolished death, and the need for death at source....
why?
Because of His words

IF YOU ABIDE, KEEP FOCUSING ON MY WORD OF FREEDOM AND DELIVERANCE

THEN YOU ARE TRULY MY DISCIPLES AND THAT MEANS YOU WILL BE LED INTO ALL TRUTH ABOUT YOU, ABOUT GODS TRUTHS, ABOUT THE WORLD

AND THAT VERY TRUTH WILL SET YOU COMPLETELY FREE AT SOURCE

SO YOU WILL NOLONGER BE TRIGGERING WRATH AT EVERY TURN

THE GIFT OF GRACE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM OF SIN

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At the moment in this secondlevel to thirdlevel transition period you could almost have a conference with Pete Cabrera Jr
and Norman Grubb people stating the spirit truth , that the big deliverance occurs when we get born again , because contrary to the rest of the church believing there is an old man and a new man fighting it out.... apostolic doctrine says we are a new creation, the old is passed away.
But at this transition stage you also need the second conference speaker to be Daniel Aaron
stating these things he has written

The Christian and his many demons ...

The Christian churches are lying to you when they say a Christian can’t be possessed by devils. how can I know this for a fact because I meet people every day who say they are Christians and I believe they believe they are and yet I can see with my eyes the devils in them and around them.

There is a line that comes forth from the lips of pastors and preachers who teach that a born-again Christian cannot have a demon because the Holy Spirit and the devil cannot exist in the same place and that is true however christians can and DO have demons and it is possible to have the Holy Spirit dwelling in your spirit and a devil living in your flesh at the same time for we are more than a body. We are body soul and spirit. The church doesn’t want to tell you that you are possessed by demons because they want not to offend you and keep you in the congregation so they can get your money but I have no congregation and nothing to fear or lose and so I will tell you the truth you can be saved and yet still be full of devils.
This is what Jesus meant in - Romans 8:5

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Haven’t you done both? Perhaps one right after the other? I would go to church and walk out and light up a cigarette one minute later! I know for a fact I’m not alone in this.

Many people who profess to be Christians but yet are going after things of the flesh is an example of this. It is possible to be born again and yet to continue walking after the lust of the flesh as was the example with me and it would cause me much doubt until I finally was able to be set free. I used to think deliverance ministry was not really necessary but now I see it serves a purpose. I have confronted one today who told me he was one with the father and that the demons I saw around him was because he had mirrors around him and that I was seeing myself so when I responded to him with a question he could not answer it and he blocked me, he wasn’t willing to hear but Blessed is he who hears and understands and sets before him a path to seek out the Lord, he will be set free! But woe unto them who take offense to good works and right speech for even his very thoughts are defiled. If you are such a Christian who struggles with sin of the flesh please comment and ask and I will ask my Father who hears me and I hear him, to do a good work unto you for the flesh is weak but the spirit is willing.

Matthew 26:41

41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Amen!


Two related posts from Facebook on my timeline this week

I'm Rubbish

I'd like to say I know what I know on good merits.
NOPE....like every good Bible character I know what I know because I was so frigging useless and still am.
I was desperate as an atheist and God just met me where I was at 13. Seen the Graduate? Dustin Hoffman one? I did, So I saw the whole thing coming in slow motion...but I was emotionally entangled. In the end God sent a prophet Nathan style to our door to get us all straight.
So having been like David Bilbrough...some sort of person affected enormously by the Jesus Move followed by the London House church move....I was fished out of the whole English scene into what was a safe recuperating kind of "City of Refuge " for me in Emsworth. But of all things it was Argentinian!!!!!
Which meant learning the stuff that Ed Silvoso and Claudio Friedzon was bringing to the UK in the 90s and 2000 ,about 20 years too early.
Which then catapulted me into gross failure in Romans 6 and 7 style. In the end, broken, i only knew to fast. And it was over 20 days. The BBC call you dead after 3 days !!!!
What God did was NOT because of some 20 day fasting method....He heard my desperation. I could have probably got to the same thing by simply reading Norman Grubb's Yes I am. But this is how God brought me into what Norman had learnt back some time in 1926 or so and the rest of the Church (though he was actually head of Worldwide Evangelisation Crusade) never listened.
See sometimes it's good to sit down and actually listen to people however weird it sounds, instead of being like Benny Hinn and racing round the universe trying to do it all yourself.(Morris Cerullo included). If you have run a global missions organisation, studied at Cambridge so can write, and you are still there after 50 years....I would think that is a good reason to try and learn off Norman and save yourself a half century.
So I didn't have Norman's book because I was in Emsworth and we believed God to do an Ed Miller suicide dive into all this stuff direct. God kindly did that, then i read the book.
But what it means is this.
Unlike IHOP I know Norman's stuff
Unlike Norman's own crowd, I know the vision of the Church...not as vision....but as lived for over a decade. I know what Acts is about. I have lived it.
While I know about London House churches vision of "being supernaturally natural" I KNOW how to get there.
Unlike Ed Miller, because of Norman Grubb I can articulate better what these socalled "lost" things or "deeper " things are.
Paul Trulin was well on the way before he died, and was able to share about Christ in us to Morris Cerullos Schools of Ministry. Because of Norman, Fred Pruitt, Page Prewitt, Nancy Gilmore, we can be so much more accurate on how daily living works. Particularly Deedee Winter, the Buntings,Sylvia Pearce.....have, as Paul Anderson Walsh pointed out...been some of the women "first to the tomb " in these issues that will literally change our world.
But because of Emsworth and some of Sam Fife's other streams (The Move) I can tell you what Norman's stuff looks like in every day church life. In Emsworth Spain and Argentina we had Bible Houses or Casa Biblicas. They wouldn't call it this but really they were centres of Galatians 2.20 consciousness living, which every church should be naturally. At this stage we have to form greenhouses to force growth, like Jesus did with the 12 disciples.
The two things lacking in seminaries is
they don't teach consciousness living
and they don't teach everyday life.
These two things are what the apostles refer to church as being in essence:
the pillar and ground of truth.
They are what they preach or you don't get recognised and sent out.
Acts 2 is really the story of 12 complete failures crashing into the thirdlevel then being the foundational reproductive core for the whole of the rest of the Church.
Zechariah 4 "raise the top stone with cries of grace ,"grace to it"
There's the grace of blood covering of sin
then there's the grace of crashing into Jesus living His life as me.
Gospel ministry at the moment is a single grace package which may or may not contain being filled with the Spirit.
The one the apostles preached and that we must NOW preach is a two grace package...day one grace of entry into the Family of God and being filled with the Spirit
the second grace of how Jesus exposes all our false inner seeing and so we walk nolonger as "independent selves", the original curse of Genesis 3 death.
and we can only impart what is true for us.

Brian Coatney on the truth about our Will

Is the Will in the Soul or the Spirit?
by Brian Coatney
The question of where the will resides popped up freshly in a recent discussion at the Hopkinsville mini-conference. In my early Christian years, the idea of the will being in the soul did not satisfy. There in the soul, along with emotions and mental reason, the will seemed out of place and the spirit too vague with its definition of being a more intuitive and conscience oriented entity.
But let’s think about what it means to be person. Whatever it means, a seeker of truth needs to penetrate to the core. Either a human is a spirit person or not. If to be a person is to be a spirit, then the key has to be there. How can the decision-making faculty that determines life and death reside in a part of you that is not your core?
Another matter that has to be decided is whether love is of the will or of the emotion. Fallen humanity revels in love being of the emotions and body, both of which God created, but neither of which makes a good governor of one’s person-hood. William Law put the Bible’s concept of love well when he said that love is willed action for others. Love is not self-for-self and this makes emotion, or mental reasoning, or hormones a poor place into which to tuck the most essential of all human capacities – the will.
Thus it made much more sense when I read Norman Grubb to see that he identifies a person-hood as the capacity to desire, to will, and to know. This in fact is the image of God and what gives us the spirit to Spirit connection with him that we are created to cultivate.
Consider too that as right as soul and body are as the outer means of God’s expression on the earth, they are not spirit and therefore need a governor. Jesus told the woman at the will, “God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.” Life is inner but expressed through the outer.
Frankly, it sounds animalistic to place the will of a person in the outer casing of the person–among the functions that Hebrews says must be divided from spirit. Hebrews chapter four says that the mature let the Spirit of God divide for them soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It would take a spirit to see as a spirit sees, and thus the spirit of a person gets illuminated and sees the difference between soul and spirit when the Holy Spirit does that dividing and reveals it to the spirit of a person.
Because of the fall, order and priority got reversed. Adam was meant to live in this world but not of it. He craved to be of it and fell. He craved to be as an animal, and the only reversal to the fall is for one who is lost to move back into the heavenly realm inside by letting the will be drawn back into subjection to God’s will and nature. Then, the outer man will take its proper place and not be the center of interest.
Fallen humanity is in love in a self-centered way with evolution and progress because they inflame the false hope that to be human is to be a self-indulgent animal that thinks only for today and its flesh instead of eternity and life in the Spirit of God. It’s the fall that keeps hope alive that will resides in the soul, whereas a spirit will is free in Christ to live above the soul and body. It is not too good to live in a soul and body and does not despise them, but it does not make them central either.
God put the will in the spirit, right where it belongs and according to the image of God.
from Facebook, passed on through Roel Velema

Wink

Norman Grubb states we are egotists with a wink.
We are the I AM in our forms.
Not trying to be anything....we spent decades or however long doing that.
We just do the next thing.
We are humility...not in the Charles Dickens ever so umble way
but in the servant saying I did what my Master said to do...no more no less.

Adam and Eve were living quite happily
Satan said...it's not enough. If you want to be gods you have to DO THIS ONE THING...."But that one thing we must not do, for we will die"
"You surely will not die"
OK then....said Adam and Eve.....and died.

Satan said to Jesus in the desert....just do this one thing
get some lunch from that stone.....NOPE my food is what God says and that only
OK just do this one thing....you need publicity....how are you going to get known? Chuck yourself off from the Temple......Nope....not into testing things out to see if they work...unless God says
OK just worship me. I'm the ruler here. Just that one thing for me? Nope....you are NOT the ruler around here

And Jesus left the wilderness full of the power of the Holy Spirit and went into Galilee.

But He didn't DO anything.
Exactly
Then He started to DO
BIG TIME.

20th Century Foundations of the Thirdlevel Move

Ever since the early Pentecostal move broke out people have been pushing back boundaries. The ministries of apostle and prophet were rediscovered in the later apostolic movement. Jessie Penn Lewis as a "father level" individual in God's 20th Century Move cannot possibly be overstated yet apart from her books , precious little is known widely. But she really affected Norman Grubb, and her writings really influenced Watchman Nee.
Ofcourse we have to thank hundreds and thousands of greater and lesser known pentecostal pioneers for literally laying hold of heaven's power in an increasingly atheistic and warlike age....but i wanted to highlight those who were pushing things towards the thirdlevel.
I could have included Sam Fife who fathered the huge early prototypes of thirdlevel church, but if you read online you will hear of many many bad bad outcomes of these early pioneers. William Branham is often described as going off the rails....but i heard the other week that the CIA made huge claims about drink problems. Anybody who starts to "get" the internal world of Galatians 2:20 immediately "crosses" the Spirit boundary much ridiculed by a world totally trapped in the tyranny of the leftbrain. Power doesn't reside in the leftbrain, so if you want to do exploits for God you HAVE to move into other parts of you....and this is why the Spirit has been outpoured, to teach us and lead us in these things.
Why Morris Cerullo? Many teach baptism in the Spirit. Some teach baptism in the Spirit and fire. But Morris was raised up to begin teaching on what he calls the New Anointing. In the pictorial form of Jerusalem's Gates this connects with the double portion anointing of the Gate of Ephraim the 11th Gate. Anointing on its own isn't enough. But in the Holiest Place we see a Mercy Seat stacked out with three aspects of Word, and IN THAT PRECISE CONTEXT of Galatians 2:20 living is the most incredible experience of Shekinah glory anointing overhead that the CHURCH has never really come into.....YET!!!!!
Why Mother Teresa? Well loads do charity works. But SHE WAITED ON GOD for decades, then in the context of Jesus living her life as her....she was commissioned to do charity work as few have done....actively eating Christ every morning in the form of the Eucharist and living out from that on the streets among the dying and homeless. This is a whole different level of Christ reaching out through the church.
ENJOY perusing. I'd love to know what you think?

John 17- the Vision of the " Church Visible"

Basilia Schlink studied psychology at a very key time in Germany's history and world history. But precisely because she was a born again Lutheran espousing all aspects of evangelicalism including sharing Jesus on the streets she was immediately perceived in Europe as something close to a Southern States Bible thumper with no brain. This is the power of assumption and the great power with which the devil mind controls every man woman and child on earth. Here's some truth. Like Bonhoeffer Nee and many other greats she was so.far into Christ's life she was way beyond anything in America. She openly taught similar to Norman Grubbs Romans 6 to 8 message in her community and created one of the first living communities to share life.together in that level of.belief. In the book Realities and my very own eyeballs you will see that they were actually materialising bits of early Romans 8 in their end of the Universe in Darmstadt. Here's a key....the Gates of Jerusalem, the book of Romans individually and the book.of Ephesians corporately are a cycle.If you conclude the cycle then you get reproduction and on a grand scale. The reason evangelists have such a hard time is two or threefold.....they only carry two-thirds of the gospel and are working with an Ishmael church that likewise never completes God's Word and is a half built Tower and thirdly hidden Masonic activity works ceaselessly to undermine everything they do and laugh mercilessly at the half built towers. If we conclude the cycle then like a lady fertilized in her ovulation cycle....pregnancy Just HAPPENS.....NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!

Roll on the Word and Spirit Church prophesied by Wigglesworth .....one with all Jerusalem's 12 Gates up and running.



So precisely because of her psychology studies and her advanced spiritual revelation Mother Basilea Schlink was one of the first in the evangelical world to be aware of the broad outlline of mindcontrol over nations through media and locally through focus groups and methods such as Sensitivity training and Silva mind control formation. It was very hard for us 16 yearolds to stomach in 1974 but what she had already picked up in the Spirit was the yellow brick road of the masonic plan to take over every aspect of life. She would not have known Mengele and the rest were shipped to America by James Bonds Ian Fleming....ready to continue the mind control studies there as shown in Shutter Island (Dicaprio+Kingsley). She would have known some of the Nazi psychology professors by name and studied their more openly published material. Erin Rothschild actually knew Mengele as a father figure as did many of the psychic soldiers in the Montauk project. See Miles Johnstons Youtube Bases series.

Jesus called 12 disciples. HE DIDNT DO WHAT NORMAN GRUBB DID.....which was the evangelical notion of having a seminar once a year and then trying to work it all out individually.
He called forth His Church by the Spirit, spoke Light, and waited for the nuclear fallout between the disciples, when He then spoke more Word. That's why Jesus way of doing things takes 3 years and Norman's way of doing things takes 70 and counting. The church is the Woman that gives birth to the Manchild.
Who is the church? The new Jerusalem compacted together.then scattered when her time is come.





The Union message of people who have read Norman Grubb is OK but it isn't really a Union message.....why? Until it's a full-fledged John 17 or Full Body message it's like masturbation for beginners. The Church is what God is after and the Church reproducing according to the woman and the manchild of Revelation 12 is what He shall get......manifesting now to powers and principalities the manifold (as in full spectrum....visible and offvisible) wisdom of God.



God ignores Romans and jewish Chief Priests. They were the wrapping paper.
No Jesus FIRST CHURCH was the blueprint for all time.
Daily ministry and sharing of lives for a very short period then SCATTER packed with INNER WORD. Very similar to YWAM but with the third part of the gospel of 1 John 2 in which they ignore. People now are like rape victims.
Have you ever tried talking to a rape victim about marriage?
Well people are like this whenever you talk about Church.
Church ISN'T what you have in America. That is called a circus with a ringmaster.
Church isn't what we have in England. That is called a lecture in a mortuary.
So when I use the word Church or called out gathering of the saints according to Hebrews 13.11-13 I am talking of something like YWAM except with mature ministries. People compacted together BY THE LIVING PROPHETIC WORD...."the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy"
Why? If you are all going to be related to the HEAD continually...you'd better be joined up with the Head in the Melchizedek Order to begin with.
Peter's two main Words were....I will make you a fisher of men and upon THIS ROCK (a pun on Peter and His inward seeing of God come in the flesh in Jesus).
If you don't build on the apostolic and prophetic WORD for you, you end up building the disasters called churches in the States and the UK on every street corner and totally acceptable to every freemason Lodge in the world. You can sit there for hundreds of years. You can then sell your building off as a mosque or carpet shop....but one thing you will never have achieved is Revelation 12....and the Woman gave birth to a Manchild and was chased off into the wilderness.
IF YOU ARE A CHURCH RAPE VICTIM...GET HEALED>>>THEN STUDY WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT HIS CHURCH in a locality.

The gospel is a CHURCH WORD.
Please don't read that in your leftbrain.
Here is the leftbrain meaning of that phrase.
The word gospel is a word only used in the context of Church.
No wash your ears out and i will begin again.
The Word of Christ in the gospel is ALWAYS in RELATION to Jesus BUILDING HIS BRIDE in the EARTH.
Any idiot can get saved.
Any idiot can press through Romans in his own life to find Jesus as HIS LIFE.
NO the real CATCH 22 is that there is ONLY ONE JESUS and HE IS A FAMILY JESUS who builds local reflections of
RICH POOR
ALL NATIONALITIES
ALL CULTURAL EXPRESSIONS
ALL AGE GROUPS SIMULTANEOUSLY
THOSE CLEVER IN THEIR LEFTBRAIN BEING MADE WISE IN THE SPIRIT as WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE THICK BEING EDUCATED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A BALANCED BRAIN WAY BY THE BEST TEACHER THERE IS.
These local reflections of the TRINITY AGAPE LOVE are called churches and unlike the ISHMAELS on the present streets...they are BORNE OF GOD'S WORD and are pressing into the fulness of 1 JOHN 2....all 3 stages of Growth spiritually and in corporate form as described in Ephesians. In short like nothing we have ever seen on earth in our lifetime.

Pricking the Bloated Independent Self

Before Yes I am by Norman Grubb and others of his books, prophets were kind of stuck nonplussed.

We kept getting ourselves into scrapes but didn't really understand why. Certainly to everyone else who relate in quite a detached slightly formal, or may be just pally way, prophets were a complete enigma and consequently got themselves labelled as socially unstable.  Particularly in jolly hockeysticks or should that be golfsticks ? England.

Yet some of us had already observed that not infrequently Jesus caused the same problems, but that gets brushed under the carpet....since He is after all the Son of God and presumably can be forgiven....being perfect and all!!!

I brought this kind of thing up again yesterday in a comment on John Castleman's Timeline.

John Castleman
Yesterday at 16:21 ·
The chapter in my book i'm currently working on is titled 'The Art of Overlooking' since as Proverbs 19:11 reads, ‘It’s to one’s glory to overlook an offense’.
And He mercifully gives us plenty to 'overlook' along the Way, lots of gory on the road to glory. It's a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong chapter.

Chris Welch: I would say this is a huge and current topic. Daniel Yordy won't even talk to me now.....And I don't know if you realise....spiritually we are virtually twins. So we'd better get this issue sorted. People people love talking about honouring each other. I would.guess this would be the chainmail permanently attached to Cindi Estep and Leonard Fredette. Prophets see straight through crap and see only the real person underneath and tell them so. At the moment the whole.Body of Christ right across the whole earth is ripped in two over this one. Do we do a Bill Johnson and honour each other? Or do we.obey St Paul and speak the truth in love? Which in his case involved naming names so that we are still.reading about Hymenaus 2000 years later?






Ephesians 4 twice talks about speaking the truth in love verse 15 we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head,

and verse 25 25 Therefore, laying aside falsehood, speak truth each one of you with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. 26 Be angry, and yet do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, 27 and do not give the devil [s]an opportunity.

And in the middle of the two is the foundation....namely that the old self is being corrupted in accordance with lusts of deceit so put on the new self which is in the likeness of God.

What Norman Grubb has defined is that the independent self is a complete delusion. It is hooked into lusts of deceit....It REALLY EXISTS,,,but it's NOT the independent thing we thought it was. It is actually being engaged with Satan's spirit. There is no "human nature". We are either God going on in our "human clay vessels" or we are Satan going on.

"And you [a]were dead [b]in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the [c]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, [d]indulging the desires of the flesh and of the [e]mind, and were by nature children of wrath,even as the rest."


Prophets are people with a balloon pricker.
They see evry man nolonger after the flesh....they see the authentic person, created in God. Now if some kind of bloated form is blobbing around outside of their authentic person, a prophet finds it quite normal to prick the fake even if it causes ructions.

Prophets cannot live with the false. They have no time for it. It quite puts them out of joint. They relate to everyone in truth and they kind of expect everyone else to do the same....which ofcourse they don't.

Jesus addressed the rich man, after he had regaled Jesus with all his keeping of the commandments....OK then....sell all you have and give it to the poor.

Is Jesus saying to everyone, every day, to sell all they have? NOPE. But He picked up the independent self clinging on for dear life to material possessions as its own god and He was immediately offended in the Spirit by the man and his self righteousness....so He launched in.

We all have people around us who do the equivalent and if we choose to walk in the Way of God then the Holy Spirit majors on it.

The function of walking in the Light is to have any last vestiges of independent self exposed as we can see in Ephesians 4 above.

As soon as someone has "removed the log" in his own eye.....come to that crashing awareness at the end of Romans 7 that there is no independent self....that any independence was really Satan as him or her.... SURE....as a thirdleveller they are going to be used to remove iddybiddy specks from their brother's inner seeing. The BIG JOB has been done by Christ on the Cross, including us into His death. We are never called upon to remove LOGS.
We can teach the Cross....but it was Christ who did the removal.

People I am brushing up with do not believe this is anything we do at all. Well you only have to read the story of Joseph as Prime Minister of Egypt, and how the Holy Spirit had him behave with his brothers to bring about a change of "seeing" in them.

Hopefully this post will get you thinking about how Proactive the Body of Christ is in bringing each of us unto glory....not by works....but by the power of Christ's own life manifested amongst us.