Showing posts with label Kenya. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kenya. Show all posts
Saturday, 24 August 2024
Wednesday, 29 April 2015
Elaine and Chris on the Kingdom and Finance
Recorded today in Poole after I was removing a piano from East Chichester to Parkstone, Poole. As Elaine is now living there I thought I'd visit.
Monday, 30 June 2014
The Jacob Generation
Having seen Michael Kaminski's encouraging reports about Kenya I was saddened to see some kind of rift between him and his host George Odero. I am equally saddened by my own one with Daniel Yordy. Anyhow, these things were being discussed on a thread by Michael yesterday and I felt to lay down some of the bigger picture in two statuses (Facebook)
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I don't understand this situation specifically...and like someone said....I wasn't expecting this after the general really upbuilding reports of earlier.
But it is INTERESTING!!!
This is how I am seeing the time we are in.
We are in an incredible time period.
Absolutely unprecedented.
We need all the inner resources we can,
Prophet Daniel said about these times and the build up to Antichrist a word equivalent to "wondrous or astonishing" but ofcourse NOT USED POSITIVELY.
Just a cursory and not particularly indepth look at how "shrewd" the sons of Darkness have been is mindboggling....it truly left Daniel weak and off food for days....and believe me it IS like that. My wife told me she thought I was having a breakdown.
But into this Darkness a Light is shining.
God told our generation, "2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thy habitations; spare not: lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes.
And this was in the context of Isaiah 54.1 about the barren bringing forth.
But first , do you see....strengthening the stakes.....that means they have to be THICKER and RUN DEEPER than ever before, if we are going to see the sort of glorious rebuild of David's Tabernacle that He has in mind, now stretched across the Earth.
The second thing I want to say is that we are in the time of Jacob's TROUBLE.
Now some have ascribed this to mean Israel.
And some other things.
BUT NONE OF US thought in terms of ALL PARTIES AT THE SAME TIME.
Read Psalm 133 again about the new priesthood God has raised by the Spirit.
Like the dew of Hermon, That cometh down upon the mountains of Zion: For there Jehovah commanded the blessing, Even life for evermore.
Ever thought about that?
What's Mount Hermon, which is overrun by Gentiles got to do with Zion?
That's the POINT. Nothing and everything.
2 HOUSES are rising to be made ONE.
Without saying too much about Israel here because it is TRULY a RE RUN of the original Jacob but this time in corporate form....you watch....while all of Satanic hosts are trying to stop it and boobytrap it
MEANWHILE the Church in the earth is ALSO in the time of Jacob's Trouble.
It's no wonder there is conflict. We can nolonger do church as usual ever again.
It is truly a time of Psalm 24 and Psalm 110
This is the generation of them that seek after him, That seek thy face, even Jacob.
Think about Jacob a moment?
He was the third in a specific line of one consecutive family that sought God with all their heart mind strangth and soul.
And he was the LAST jigsaw in the God package
I AM the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
IN YOU SHALL THEY BE NAMED.
That is in the name of the Revelation of Abraham
combined with
the Revelation of Isaac
combined with the
Revelation of Jacob
The one complete package of dealings that were then rolled out into
a holy nation, the natural Israel.
Who was Israel? Jacob. His name was changed to Prince with God,
or one who has contended with God.
Why is this so important?
Because the evangelical revelation is really just a corporate version
of the faith of Abraham.
The Pentecostal and charismatic outpouring of the last 100 years
is like the wells of Isaac. Supernatural provision.
Jacob’s life BEGINS as a continuation of Isaac....
learning supernatural provison in speckled sheep and striped sheep to order!!!
Very like the charismatic continuation of the Pentecostal outpouring which
led into the Word of faith movement of the 60s 70s and 80s.
Many want to ridicule it. It was entirely in God’s Plan.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING visceral in Jacob.
Something that moves right outside the realm of religion.
Christo Odero is talking about man as he is, mankind as he is.
Kind of leaving religion out of it.
This is VISCERAL.
This is letting God be God of all of it.
This is the Jacob generation, who are not concerned with line or lineage.
Who are not concerned with forbears.
Who are not concerned with formulas.
But want God FACE TO FACE....in boldness.
Not as a theology....but the reality of God indwelling Man.
Now to have churches like this we must have individuals like this.
We impart Christ in us the hope of glory individual by individual.
And the one affected individual has the genuine stuff which he imparts
to other souls, and so the Word transfers.
Word transfer. Seeking the Face of the God of Jacob.
Abiding in the SHADOW of the Most High....think the Darkness of inside an oven
except the Lord is Light so it can never really be Dark....it just looks that way to onlookers.....
But all this freaky visceral stuff is SO DEEP
SO CUTTING
SO MUCH LIKE GENESIS 15 and the OPEN CARCASSES and the BLOOD
churches that we have now cannot handle it. They are not built for it.
THINK of what Mike Kaminski has endured in disability...his own and his kids.
THINK of the excruciating pain of some of that.
These are the STRENGTHENING OF THE STAKES and the STRENGTHENING of the CORDS of the future church.
Church as it is now has different agenda from just transplanting Christ.
And we as believers must decide
Do we go with the other agenda of an incomplete Abraham and Isaac revelation....
a Halfbuilt Tower
Or do we go right into the THIRDLEVEL of a Peniel Church....where our very Name
gets changed
TO MARRIED
FROM BARREN....TO BEARER OF MANY SONS? Is54.1
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Where we are going is transparency.
God has many of His Church seeking His Face at the moment.
This is not random. This is the birth of a New Church.
This is the birth of what revelations 3 calls "eyesalve".
This is the birth of a new Church age.
THIS IS ACTUALLY the promised Word of the restoration of the Tabernacle of David. This last phrase has been used and quickened since the Holy Spirit was first poured out again in great number 100 years ago.....but it is NOT the same outworking of that Word.
What people have called the Restoration movement was not. We had firm warning about that from 2 famous men.
Smith Wigglesworth and R,Edward Miller.....actually the latter was a report of an angelic manifestation where Fort Lauderdale was mentioned before it meant anything.
Restoration is something born on the inside by God Himself, and we are right in the middle of that. Like most births it is messy.
But the Child of promise has nothing to do with the child of a bondwoman.
I was given a strong Word over 20 years ago, but I want to highlight this phrase.....
"You should fear lest you run ahead of me, lest you build what I am not building. For I build swiftly and well. My work will arise amidst your works and yours will splinter like matchsticks in front of the solidity of My work. When I build, people stand and stare, dumbstruck.
Fear, lest you too be ashamed."
the rest is here
When we "see" properly and accurately we can go from place to place looking to see as Paul said....for Christ crucified.
There is a fragrance, a Presence, a Character formed by the Holy Spirit.
We do not ask is this the work of Kaminski or is this the work of Odero....we ask simply how much of Jesus Christ is born and reproduced in this place?
We should as eunuch ministries of God be able to increasingly move from work to work, honoring the God wrought, and building upon that foundation. But for that ever to occur ministries need to be huge in their inner breadth of wisdom, "seeing", and understanding of all the "Gates of heavenly Jerusalem".
At the moment people are submitted to streams, to ideas, to passions and agendas of men. People are weighed up by which stream they are in submission to, but no one sees clearly to be able to see whether Christ is being imparted in fulness. Those days are coming to a close.
It won't be by friction....it will be simply the unfolding of
the words of Psalm 1 and Isaiah....
4 The wicked are not so, But are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the wicked shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
AND
Is.35:8
the literal form YLT
8 And a highway hath been there, and a way, And the `way of holiness' is called to it, Not pass over it doth the unclean, And He Himself [is] by them, Whoso is going in the way -- even fools err not.
See up until now, people have decribed the WAY, and in the most intense worship times people have sensed it starting to arrive....in the same way Elijah's servant saw a "cloud the size of a man's hand"
But this WAY forming itself and birthing itself amongst us will just simply not allow half the things we allow presently. But there won't be any force involved in stopping them....people will just feel idiotic carrying on with the tithing system
carrying on with the halfhearted worship at present
carrying on with the overconstructed sermons of men whose intelligence is great but their hearts are far from the Kingdom
from inadequately Spirit prepared servants of God
from ministry dominance at the expense of a freeflowing Body ministry
of so many of the ways we currently do things but are not really His Son lived by us, nor the real BLOODBOUGHT Church of God.
***********************************
I don't understand this situation specifically...and like someone said....I wasn't expecting this after the general really upbuilding reports of earlier.
But it is INTERESTING!!!
This is how I am seeing the time we are in.
We are in an incredible time period.
Absolutely unprecedented.
We need all the inner resources we can,
Prophet Daniel said about these times and the build up to Antichrist a word equivalent to "wondrous or astonishing" but ofcourse NOT USED POSITIVELY.
Just a cursory and not particularly indepth look at how "shrewd" the sons of Darkness have been is mindboggling....it truly left Daniel weak and off food for days....and believe me it IS like that. My wife told me she thought I was having a breakdown.
But into this Darkness a Light is shining.
God told our generation, "2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thy habitations; spare not: lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes.
And this was in the context of Isaiah 54.1 about the barren bringing forth.
But first , do you see....strengthening the stakes.....that means they have to be THICKER and RUN DEEPER than ever before, if we are going to see the sort of glorious rebuild of David's Tabernacle that He has in mind, now stretched across the Earth.
The second thing I want to say is that we are in the time of Jacob's TROUBLE.
Now some have ascribed this to mean Israel.
And some other things.
BUT NONE OF US thought in terms of ALL PARTIES AT THE SAME TIME.
Read Psalm 133 again about the new priesthood God has raised by the Spirit.
Like the dew of Hermon, That cometh down upon the mountains of Zion: For there Jehovah commanded the blessing, Even life for evermore.
Ever thought about that?
What's Mount Hermon, which is overrun by Gentiles got to do with Zion?
That's the POINT. Nothing and everything.
2 HOUSES are rising to be made ONE.
Without saying too much about Israel here because it is TRULY a RE RUN of the original Jacob but this time in corporate form....you watch....while all of Satanic hosts are trying to stop it and boobytrap it
MEANWHILE the Church in the earth is ALSO in the time of Jacob's Trouble.
It's no wonder there is conflict. We can nolonger do church as usual ever again.
It is truly a time of Psalm 24 and Psalm 110
This is the generation of them that seek after him, That seek thy face, even Jacob.
Think about Jacob a moment?
He was the third in a specific line of one consecutive family that sought God with all their heart mind strangth and soul.
And he was the LAST jigsaw in the God package
I AM the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
IN YOU SHALL THEY BE NAMED.
That is in the name of the Revelation of Abraham
combined with
the Revelation of Isaac
combined with the
Revelation of Jacob
The one complete package of dealings that were then rolled out into
a holy nation, the natural Israel.
Who was Israel? Jacob. His name was changed to Prince with God,
or one who has contended with God.
Why is this so important?
Because the evangelical revelation is really just a corporate version
of the faith of Abraham.
The Pentecostal and charismatic outpouring of the last 100 years
is like the wells of Isaac. Supernatural provision.
Jacob’s life BEGINS as a continuation of Isaac....
learning supernatural provison in speckled sheep and striped sheep to order!!!
Very like the charismatic continuation of the Pentecostal outpouring which
led into the Word of faith movement of the 60s 70s and 80s.
Many want to ridicule it. It was entirely in God’s Plan.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING visceral in Jacob.
Something that moves right outside the realm of religion.
Christo Odero is talking about man as he is, mankind as he is.
Kind of leaving religion out of it.
This is VISCERAL.
This is letting God be God of all of it.
This is the Jacob generation, who are not concerned with line or lineage.
Who are not concerned with forbears.
Who are not concerned with formulas.
But want God FACE TO FACE....in boldness.
Not as a theology....but the reality of God indwelling Man.
Now to have churches like this we must have individuals like this.
We impart Christ in us the hope of glory individual by individual.
And the one affected individual has the genuine stuff which he imparts
to other souls, and so the Word transfers.
Word transfer. Seeking the Face of the God of Jacob.
Abiding in the SHADOW of the Most High....think the Darkness of inside an oven
except the Lord is Light so it can never really be Dark....it just looks that way to onlookers.....
But all this freaky visceral stuff is SO DEEP
SO CUTTING
SO MUCH LIKE GENESIS 15 and the OPEN CARCASSES and the BLOOD
churches that we have now cannot handle it. They are not built for it.
THINK of what Mike Kaminski has endured in disability...his own and his kids.
THINK of the excruciating pain of some of that.
These are the STRENGTHENING OF THE STAKES and the STRENGTHENING of the CORDS of the future church.
Church as it is now has different agenda from just transplanting Christ.
And we as believers must decide
Do we go with the other agenda of an incomplete Abraham and Isaac revelation....
a Halfbuilt Tower
Or do we go right into the THIRDLEVEL of a Peniel Church....where our very Name
gets changed
TO MARRIED
FROM BARREN....TO BEARER OF MANY SONS? Is54.1
***********************
Where we are going is transparency.
God has many of His Church seeking His Face at the moment.
This is not random. This is the birth of a New Church.
This is the birth of what revelations 3 calls "eyesalve".
This is the birth of a new Church age.
THIS IS ACTUALLY the promised Word of the restoration of the Tabernacle of David. This last phrase has been used and quickened since the Holy Spirit was first poured out again in great number 100 years ago.....but it is NOT the same outworking of that Word.
What people have called the Restoration movement was not. We had firm warning about that from 2 famous men.
Smith Wigglesworth and R,Edward Miller.....actually the latter was a report of an angelic manifestation where Fort Lauderdale was mentioned before it meant anything.
Restoration is something born on the inside by God Himself, and we are right in the middle of that. Like most births it is messy.
But the Child of promise has nothing to do with the child of a bondwoman.
I was given a strong Word over 20 years ago, but I want to highlight this phrase.....
"You should fear lest you run ahead of me, lest you build what I am not building. For I build swiftly and well. My work will arise amidst your works and yours will splinter like matchsticks in front of the solidity of My work. When I build, people stand and stare, dumbstruck.
Fear, lest you too be ashamed."
the rest is here
When we "see" properly and accurately we can go from place to place looking to see as Paul said....for Christ crucified.
There is a fragrance, a Presence, a Character formed by the Holy Spirit.
We do not ask is this the work of Kaminski or is this the work of Odero....we ask simply how much of Jesus Christ is born and reproduced in this place?
We should as eunuch ministries of God be able to increasingly move from work to work, honoring the God wrought, and building upon that foundation. But for that ever to occur ministries need to be huge in their inner breadth of wisdom, "seeing", and understanding of all the "Gates of heavenly Jerusalem".
At the moment people are submitted to streams, to ideas, to passions and agendas of men. People are weighed up by which stream they are in submission to, but no one sees clearly to be able to see whether Christ is being imparted in fulness. Those days are coming to a close.
It won't be by friction....it will be simply the unfolding of
the words of Psalm 1 and Isaiah....
4 The wicked are not so, But are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the wicked shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
AND
Is.35:8
the literal form YLT
8 And a highway hath been there, and a way, And the `way of holiness' is called to it, Not pass over it doth the unclean, And He Himself [is] by them, Whoso is going in the way -- even fools err not.
See up until now, people have decribed the WAY, and in the most intense worship times people have sensed it starting to arrive....in the same way Elijah's servant saw a "cloud the size of a man's hand"
But this WAY forming itself and birthing itself amongst us will just simply not allow half the things we allow presently. But there won't be any force involved in stopping them....people will just feel idiotic carrying on with the tithing system
carrying on with the halfhearted worship at present
carrying on with the overconstructed sermons of men whose intelligence is great but their hearts are far from the Kingdom
from inadequately Spirit prepared servants of God
from ministry dominance at the expense of a freeflowing Body ministry
of so many of the ways we currently do things but are not really His Son lived by us, nor the real BLOODBOUGHT Church of God.
Sunday, 18 May 2014
Elaine's 2 1/2 years in Migori
Get on Facebook and access Elaine's profile to to talk with her and discuss ways of donating or publicising:
https://www.facebook.com/elainesjargon
If you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
If outside the UK
VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
6. REFERENCE : ELAINE W.
The TShirt Elaine gave me for my birthday
Another chance to see Elaine's most recent report about Migori.
Sunday, 4 May 2014
Elaine shares live with Chris about living in rural Kenya for 2 years bringing the gospel
For more about Elaine see more in the index below.
Sunday, 2 March 2014
Grandad, what did you achieve between 2011-2014?
Elaine Waterfield kindly fills us in on what has been going on in the last 3 years in Kenya.
Errr what were we all doing?????
....yes we have worked tirelessly and with great faith but with little we need support and prayer in with the vision GOD has given
With all the struggles God has enable us to do a lot and achieve more than we could imagine, without any church and Funding organization from the west our God has proved to us that He is the provider, Many missionaries and organizations have big church and donors backing them but thanks to God we have worked with Elaine Waterfield for more than two years without any Family, church or organization back up our organization REDIM also have not got any funding yet. Thanks to friends that have stood with us both individually and in supporting the work we are doing.. In faith and with your support we have achieved supporting 20 students in their education, built a clinic and a labour ward, church brick wall, empowered girls in their education, visit prisoner with the Gospel, organized revivals and now started building an orphanage school integrated with school for the blind and vocational training wing for youths who cannot carry on with further education. We have reached appoint of no alternative as we need to do these projects (orphanage and school for the blind ) and a vehicle and these need support Lord we are in your will and we cannot but you able touch somebody, church, organization, charity or company to donate towards these needs. AMEN.
For more on Elaine Waterfield check out my index below the blogposts
If you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
If outside the UK
VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
6. REFERENCE : ELAINE W.
Errr what were we all doing?????
Facebook status with George Okoth her co worker
With all the struggles God has enable us to do a lot and achieve more than we could imagine, without any church and Funding organization from the west our God has proved to us that He is the provider, Many missionaries and organizations have big church and donors backing them but thanks to God we have worked with Elaine Waterfield for more than two years without any Family, church or organization back up our organization REDIM also have not got any funding yet. Thanks to friends that have stood with us both individually and in supporting the work we are doing.. In faith and with your support we have achieved supporting 20 students in their education, built a clinic and a labour ward, church brick wall, empowered girls in their education, visit prisoner with the Gospel, organized revivals and now started building an orphanage school integrated with school for the blind and vocational training wing for youths who cannot carry on with further education. We have reached appoint of no alternative as we need to do these projects (orphanage and school for the blind ) and a vehicle and these need support Lord we are in your will and we cannot but you able touch somebody, church, organization, charity or company to donate towards these needs. AMEN.
For more on Elaine Waterfield check out my index below the blogposts
If you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
If outside the UK
VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
6. REFERENCE : ELAINE W.
Tuesday, 25 February 2014
Elaine compares her situation and what she has accomplished through God with NGOs
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| Migori Prison1 |
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| Migori Prison 2 |
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| Migori prison 3 |
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GIVING NOTES...Chris Welch
Finances are needed as direct gifts.
Or you may want to be a FINANCIAL ANGEL, where you are either giving or loaning money to a central fund to be administered by trustworthy people locally in Suna area, as revolving loans for establishing new enterprises.
Kingdom Giving is a revelation like everything in the Kingdom. If you think you understand something, you probably don't.
If you have a need or desire for something that you feel has come from God, then unlike most Brits reacting to a fleshy version of Seed faith practiced in the States, IT IS PERFECTLY FINE to sow money into the Kingdom then believe God to answer the need that is on your heart. We ARE to test God in this. Most Brits have this inner fear lest God doesn't show up, so like the servant who buries his talent in the ground...because " I thought you were a hard master"....they flunk out and say religiously.....
Oh well I'll give to Elaine, but because I'm righteous I don't expect God to give anything back because that would be selfish.
If God is in you, and He is expressing His desires and wants in you, then those things on your heart are precious and not selfish....but like all things we receive by faith...BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST we give for the expansion of the Kingdom.
Tithing is crap, not because giving is crap, but it feeds your stupid belief that God hasn't nailed all demands of the Old Covenant to the Cross. We don't "do" anything for Jesus to get righteousness....we are so superawed that God invaded our lives at all and GAVE us His Righteousness that we want everyone to know about it...and it's helpful if they are still alive first to hear it !!!! We LOVE because He first loved us.
The people DOING the Kingdom stuff don't get supported. The people NOT doing the Kingdom stuff get put into leadership positions in costly buildings that drain all the saints' finances. Who do you think Jewishbusinessmen derive their shrewdness and business acumen from? GOD DEMANDS FRUITFULNESS, because HIS SON IN US is fruitful. If it was up to us, God would let us off. But He has invested Jesus inside us, and demands Jesus sized fruit. Call it the Father's JESUS BANK......US.
And He demands THIRTY, SIXTY AND HUNDRED FOLD FRUITFULNESS...because His Son really is that fruitful!!!!
....Some food for pondering as a detached friend of Elaine Waterfield (who they call Nya Suna, daughter of their Suna District).
ACTION
*DIRECT
If you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
* VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
6. REFERENCE : ELAINE W.
For more of Elaine's story just scroll down to the Index and look for her name :Elaine Waterfield
Saturday, 28 September 2013
The Day our visitor came - Elaine Waterfield
When I first came to Chungni as a Missionary one of the first things that God told me to do was seek the face of God with the church up the Mountain. This started when I used to live in Homa Bay with the first Ministry I served with, were they would climb Asago Mountain. It was here that George had a vision of my coming with many people behind me and Joshua the leader of the Ministry prophesied that I would be a missionary in Suna.
The first time I climbed that mountain people thought I would never reach the top as I was overweight and white and they made a big issue out of my size and mocked me even to the point of taking photographs. But with faith and the encouragement of George who is now my host and Mary the wife of Pastor Moses, plus listening to Godfrey Birtill worship music, I got to the top. I really couldn’t help but jump up and down clapping my hands with such an achievement and prayed. What man didn’t think I would ever do with God I did it.
In the Bible many Old Testament Characters especially leaders like Moses would seek the face of God up the mountain. Not that God isn’t everywhere it’s just the sense of you making the effort to seek the face of God and sometimes as for me in the early days it was a struggle but I did this in faith, its not so much about the the mountain but the fact you stopped work, stopped everything to go to the mountain and seek Him. This is why I always read Psalm 24 every time we go there.
Anyway it was at the mountain in Suna that God told me that we needed a big church building and after sharing this with Makongeni church we had a special day of prayer and praise over the Egypt church. Makongeni Church first began under a tree then progressed to a small mud hut and now it was time to move again. We sang and prayed and I took four pegs and placed them in the ground where God had told me to put them and when we measured it was exactly 100 by 50. I got four groups of church members to pray at each corner where the peg was placed and speak out in faith that God would provide and read Psalm 24.
In the ground were many huge stones in the way however we had planned another day to dig the foundation of this new church and remove all the stones. This we did with hard work singing and praising the living God. It brought great hope and faith, but still the thought of a brick church costing a million and a half Kenyan Shillings was just a vision I don’t think that they ever thought it would come to pass.
I did tell them the next stage was to knock down the old mud church ( Egypt ) and move to the site of the new church (canan ) but they didn’t listen. Therefore one day I took a jemby with Cyprian ( Georges Brother ) and we began to knock it down, wondering what the leaders would do I was surprised that they joined in and we completely knocked the mud house down even Patrick helped us. Patrick’s faith was dwindling at that point but since he has realised that God was doing a new thing faith has arised in not just him but many others. Some members were shocked but this is what God told me to do and we soon built another bigger mud hut next to the new church foundation.
We began raising funds and God would provide money miraculously. On the way back to Kenya in November 2012 I had two heavy cases filled with football kit and medicine clothes and tambourines. I should have paid excess baggage but the lady at the desk told me to even the weight in both cases and let me through. The money I had saved from not paying excess I used for the church building. After a long procedure of making bricks using donkey s for the sand and bull and cart for the stones and women carrying water on their head, we made the foundation. After more visits to the mountain praying and praising God plus fund raising , we began the work of building the brick church and very quickly we had the the first part of the church raised .
However at the mountain we also have been praying for two years for instruments and sound system because without them the only alternative was clapping which for me sometimes is a nightmare. I had bought a key board for £14.00 but it didn’t project the sound powerfully enough and so it’s been left in the corner of my house unused. I had brought tambourines and marakers which was a start, but how we longed for a powerful key board and sound system so that the choir and the youth could really praise God and encourage people to come. Also Morris Georges brother is a skilled musician and a key board player but he used to go to REJOICE another church and said he would only come to Makongeni if and when he could play keyboard.
Another prayer at the mountain was God to provide BIBLES in Lou and Swahili because how can people get to know the word of God without Bibles and especially the changa men who had come to Christ which also started from a prayer at the mountain my first New Years Eve in Suna in 2011.. I have bought English Bibles and have been given Gideon’s Bibles but that was pointless as most people can’t read and they can’t read English. My prayer is that the Gideon’s Publish Bibles in all tribal languages in Africa and give them away free, as the people really desire the Word of God
The hotel we stayed at was beautiful the reason why I say this was because for two year I have been living mostly in a mud hut. No carpets, no wallpaper, no running water you have to either collect rain water or go to the river and carry it on your head, and for a year and a half we had no electric just a tilly lamp. The toilet was just a hole in the floor outside. When you squat over the hole, bats come out underneath you and armies of marching ants would cover you and really bite. One time there was a snake in the CHO as they call toilets here, so it was very unpleasant and when we have no money for toilet paper we have to use leaves.
When I had a wash for most of the first year I had one bucket to use as over night to pee and poo in and then you would have to wash in it and wash your clothes by hand and with no light you wouldn’t see what you were doing and got in mess when you were sick with malaria and typhoid. My hair gets matted with red dust and my feet are all cracked walking on the floor with no shoes. I even went to bed with muddy feet as there’s no water to wash them in the dry season.
One day at the mountain when we were praying for the church building and for a visitor who was coming to our Convention in December, God really spoke to me in Micah 7 how God will visit us. There were only five of us there and yet how awesome it was for God to tell us such a proclamation.
My testimony of Gods saving grace and answers to prayer is that I had been under a lot of spiritual warfare, incredible struggles and I wondered where God was. On the way to a hotel where I had been invited to a dance I heard a preacher saying “Don’t you think I know your needs before I ask you? Don’t you trust me? “and it was as though God were speaking to me directly. That night I went to a dance with some hotel staff and had my drink spiked and was robbed and badly treated. A terrible experience that made me realise that I wanted Jesus in my life and didn’t want to end up being back slidden like I had been for twenty years previously and I knew that I wanted to live my life for Jesus and God was about to really show me that yes he did know what we needed even before creation as God planned it even way back then.
God told me to ask Mike if he could come to visit us before December to help and advise us and expose him to what God is doing here in Suna. Surprisingly he said yes so we began to plaster Georges Mud hut and I spent a long time painting it and we put a toilet in my new brick house in his honour. I also preached on giving as here in Africa because people have a dependency syndrome where they rely and expect money from whites but God teaches us in the Bible we must give and receive. We had wanted to have some conventions in various places and so we organised three teams Malera and Ruberry and Kihoru to have Conventions and provide food for Mike. This was a miracle because these people are starving with little to eat themselves having many children and struggle to pay school fees so for them to cook a chicken was a sacrifice. Normally these people only eat vegetables.
He on the other hand had been given a lot of important work yet he was faithful and said he would still come to that and that’s what you call sacrifice for God.
Back to the Transline after all the worry over getting a seat as we got on the bus and I felt a hand in my bag. As I turned round and there was man staring at me, had I have made a noise he would have been stoned to death or had a tyre put round his neck and set alight on the spot so I remained silent even though he stole a large amount of money which was to send ay Elaine to hospital and have shoes fitted after treatment of club feet , as well as surgery for a mans tumours to be removed from his face. Even baby Elaine’s medical cards were stolen.. but what can you do ? I just praised God that he hadn’t taken my bank card and other money.
The airport arrivals was chaotic because a while ago Nairobi Arrival Lounge was burned down and there were tents in different arrears according to the airways, but we had got to the right place of Kenyan Airways arrival so it wasn’t as confusing as we had imagined and we soon greeted Mike and was so nice to meet him a miracle infact.
The hotel we stayed at was beautiful the reason why I say this was because for two year I have been living for most in a mud hut. No carpets, no wallpaper, no running water you have to either collect rain water or go to the river and carry it on your head, and for a year and a half we had no electric just a tilly lamp. The toilet was just a hole in the floor outside. When you squat over the hole, bats come out underneath you and armies of marching ants would cover you and really bite. One time there was a snake in the CHO as they call toilets here, so it was very unpleasant and when we have no money for toilet paper we have to use leaves.
When I had a wash for most of the first year I had one bucket to use as over night to pee and poo in and then you would have to wash in it and wash your clothes by hand and with no light you wouldn’t see what you were doing and got in mess when you were sick with malaria and typhoid. My hair gets matted with red dust and my feet are all cracked walking on the floor with no shoes. I even went to bed with muddy feet as there’s no water to wash them in the dry season.
`My worst night in Chungni was when marching ants were on the war path and there were hundreds of spiders in my bedroom and flies everything you could possibly imagine. I could describe it as “ I am celebrity get me out of here” your worst nightmare but with God and some oil I put at the door and bottom of the bed I was fine. So sleeping in a nice bed and having a bath with light without bugs and flies was WOW a miracle. Everything I used to take for granted was now a luxury.
Even at breakfast I cried the tears were really pouring down my face, there was salmon and cheese and bread sticks, coffee, juice and butter etc things I had never seen or tasted for a year. Most of the food on the menu was just the normal run of the mill in UK, but here in Chungni our food is very bland and inedible things for me like chickens heads and feet, the chicken is so rubbery, if you don’t cook the meat well you get tape worms and when we have no money we have maize bread and local vegetables and typhoid water. Sometimes my urine is so dark through lack of water and dehydration … which is why Mike bought me several big bottles of water and a pump. Wow another miracle and truly appreciated.
After a delouse breakfast we went to town and Mike bought some medical equipment for our clinic another answer to two years of prayer, and I bought 17 bibles in Luo and Swahili language and a few English Bibles for Makongeni church. In UK we have Gideon’s who give Bibles away for free and yet here were people are getting saved in rural areas by the dozen to buy a Bible is so expensive and many never and I mean NEVER get to read the word of God. Why the Gideon’s don’t blitz the rural areas of Kenya is beyond me so Dad hear our hearts cry.
To actually have a white person for company who could speak my language was awesome as most of the day people speak in Luo and so I end up talking to the wall and the floor and the table. People can speak English but they tend to revert back to their natural mother tongue. Even during preaching even I can’t help but speak a few words here and there in the Luo. I also spend long periods of time on my own so to have company was definitely a miracle.
On the way back from Nairobi to Migori I really prayed that God will provide an International Airport near to Migori as its eight hours away to Nairobi a long ardours journey for guests and even us it just makes you stressed and tired.. Especially at the end when the bus makes so many stops you think to yourself will this journey never ever end.
`My worst night in Chungni was when marching ants were on the war path and there were hundreds of spiders in my bedroom and flies everything you could possibly imagine. I could describe it as “ I am celebrity get me out of here” your worst nightmare but with God and some oil I put at the door and bottom of the bed I was fine. So sleeping in a nice bed and having a bath with light without bugs and flies was WOW a miracle. Everything I used to take for granted was now a luxury.
Even at breakfast I cried the tears were really pouring down my face, there was salmon and cheese and bread sticks, coffee, juice and butter etc things I had never seen or tasted for a yearOur first chokruwok was in my house and the church was so pleased to see Mike. In the past so many people had said that they would come but they never came and its totally let the community down very badly and but most of all they lose hope. However Mikes coming brought hope and answers to so many prayers that we had prayed up the mountain. The meeting went really well and everyone was in awe that our visitor Mike had come and brought an anointing and a powerful word of God.
In the morning we went to the mountain it’s a wonderful experience as you look over the valley of Suna West. There was George, myself Mike, Pastor Sani, Margret, Jane, janes, Uma, Nelson, John, Rose, Tobias, Neto, Prisca, and another lady. To watch Mike teach the Word of God sitting on the rock reminded me of Jesus preaching to his disciples.. we read out Psalm 24 and Ezekiel 37 about the valley of the dry bones, we sang and also prayed for school fees so that their children could go to school and be educated to a point of being able to have a better life than their parents,.
In UK Education is free up an until you go to College or University unless your parents can afford private education and then there are grants if you have no funds. Here in Kenya school fees cripple poor families and last year four boys committed suicide because of school fee related issues. Also Girls prostitute themselves for school fees, sanitary towels and pants which leads to early pregnancy HIV/AIDS, plus early marriage and so they remain illiterate and ignorant, carrying on the cycle of poverty.
They also prayed abut small businesses, through poverty people get out loans that they can’t pay back causing them to steal. If caught they can be stoned to death set alight with a tyre and petrol or being given drugs by the witch doctor that causes confusion and erratic behaviour like eating grass. Without the antidote they will die but that is only given if they confess to the theft. Another problem is that the only alternative for paying off loans is making Changa which then leads them to alcoholism. If these people had small loans to generate income in better businesses like selling chickens, second hand clothes, small fish and vegetables then they would be in the position of sending their children to school and sustaining the family. Small businesses also creates the community to grow, irradiating ,illiteracy and poverty.
We also prayed for the church building to e developed as so many moré people are coming to the Lord and being saved and we want a living church one that’s opening and functioning everyday in prayer praise, groups, conferences and food clothes bank, courses like alpha, freedom in Christ, marriage, and the 12 step programme for addicts for example.
We also prayed against sickness because in Chungni and in Suna as a whole everyone has HIV /AIDS and its only a handful of people who are free from the sickness. Because of HIV / Aids we see so many people dying from malaria and typhoid enhanced with them going to the witch doctor and using traditional medicine. Of late we have seen so many young children dying daily. We have funeral every week but seldom, seldom, do you see a wedding. Just after Mike left John Okuku’s Grandson baby Paul died of HIV having taken him to a Traditional Doctor rather than the hospital. I just thank God that that day we had given John a Luo Bible. John was a change drinker until Jesus brought him from the Miry Clay and set his feet upon a rock..the Rock of Jesus Christ.
After an awesome experience up the mountain we went then to Malera Primary school, to show Mike the trophies the girls have won at the several football tournaments we have had for girls in Education to raise the profile of Girl Child Education and bring to light the problems that girls face and why so many girls never get any further than class 8.. lack of sanitary towels, lack of light to study, child labour, early pregnancy and marriage as young as 9 to get a dowry, lack of school fee and parents who don’t encourage or value education because of ignorance, children especially orphans are abused by their families both sexually and as farm why we are in the early stages as a ministry of building a ten classroom orphanage school to enable the children of the village to be educated and given basic human rights.
We also visited Malera Secondary School which is my favourite school with my favourite Principle Mr Singe as he has a real heart for the orphans especially the bright students, he really supports them even paying for their school fees himself and allowing their caretakers to pay for fees with maize and fire wood. He now wants to build a dormitory for girls and boys studying in form 4 so that they get every opportunity to study in safety why I gave him an award for his outstanding efforts.
Then late afternoon we picked up the many things that Mike had sent via courier, the sound system etc and wow that was so exciting a real answer to the churches prayers. Gods miracles are just so normal and easy and natural that if you don’t have a mind open for the Lord you could miss it. When we do things in our strength it’s such a big deal.
The chokruwok that night was in Neto’s Fathers house; both father and son were once drunkards and only a few months ago. His wife Vumi had called George and myself out to their home as she was so upset with the behaviour of Neto and how he once had accidentally cut his child with the panger. It was at this time that we led him to the Lord with my testimony of being once an alcoholic and now I am born again followed by his baptism with a bucket of water. He was a fisherman at one time and a notorious drinker in Lake Victoria, once he was home he would beat his wife and children but since his salvation he has become a disciple and on fire for the Lord. What was so humbling was that he had cooked chicken for Mike’s meal and normally the family starve and have little to eat but it gave them pleasure to give to Mike and it humbled me as I had been preaching on giving. Mikes message was we need to do good as Christians…
Saturday we met at the Migori Prison and I love prison ministry as it’s my calling. We had been there several times before and each time we take a member of Transformed Chungni ex criminals and Chang’a men. We have already taken Challis, Nelson, Uma and now we have taken Neto, he and I gave testimonies and Dominicous sang, Pastor Sani Prayed and George led the meeting whilst Mike brought the word of the prodigal son. The main thought was that God was training many of these men for their calling in prison and that even those who were going to be there forever God would give them grace to be there and use them. Many of the men were like the prodigal son, in greed wanting wealth NOW and squandering the money on sin and pleasure then it all went. They end up in the gutter and there’s no way out so they know when they come to their senses that they need to go back home to the Father (even as father God) and go back seeking forgiveness and being humble, but God welcomes you back home even stinking in pig swill and gets out the best the very best clothes and has a celebration through forgiveness and show it.. Some have to learn kit physically some just believe..
The Chaplain is a wonderful man he looks after the children whose mothers are in the women’s prison and they surely need help, we also commented that they need to have a chapel in the prison rather than have it in a room somewhere that’s more special and holy.
After lunch we went to a shop in Migori and mike bought a keyboard which is a part of his ministry and he had exactly the right money in his pocket. I said to the man that he should give his life to Jesus and let us have the keyboard cheaper as he will be blessed, he gave us the keyboard at a cheaper rate but didn’t make that commitment, so I must go back and see if the God has blessed the man and use it to preach to him again.
Whilst in Migori, Mike and I prayed for an alcoholic who fell to the ground by the power of God and we told him to go home and give the money Mike gave him to his wife and children and he walked off looking touched by God.
Then as we drove back to Chungni we stopped at Makuru to visit a drunkard called Vincent. Vincent was married to a teacher and in his day he was a teacher in a secondary school plus his father is a missionaire, but now he has been a drinker for many a year and has just come out of rehab. He didn’t want me to give a testimony just the help and power from God to stop this addiction. I led him to the Lord through the sinners’ prayer and baptising Vincent. The sinners prayer isn’t a ritual its just a guide line as what to say and how to pray to the Lord for precious unbelievers. Mike got Vincent to smash the bottle of alcohol that was empty on the wall, and as he prayed for him it was ,like a demon came from him. We have been back sonce but haven’t found Vincent there, his sisters said that he was still drinking but I know that God has a plan for his life and he is at work… so watch this space.
The evening was amazing because Mike wanted to put up the sound system and the keyboard in the church and as he did it and Morris played the key board we all danced and praised God for his miracles which were just pouring out and he was visiting us as Micah 7 had said.. Mike was just praising the Lord and we were all dancing and singing even the older men were dancing and so, so, so pleased and amazed at what God had done and all the answered prayers. We all laughed and truly had an amazing time.
Sunday was an awesome day the first time Makongeni Messianic, church had a keyboard and a sound system and it completely transformed the church no more silly clapping and instead we have beautiful music and the Sunday School choir came alive as did the youth choir, we sang river of Gold and God of this city and the Sunday school sang Delilah, plus nikki dot com both with powerful messages. I gave a word about what God has been doing since I came to Suna and brought all the men up who had come from Chang’a Challis a murderer who lived like and animal and now a farmer a father and a husband and born again, John his brother was a drunkard and now he has been set free and born again, Nelson was a drunk and a cripple and now born again and walks without a stick Morris another drunk now a driver, there was Moses and Lahkim both drunkards and now born again and living a new life, plus Eve and baby Elaine the child with club feet and now they are straight after going to the hospital but this has caused the mother Rose top stop drinking after seeing the hand of God in their lives.
Sadly the following week that’s when John’s grandson died Baby Paul and also Lahkim’s daughter Mary died of HIV plus the eldest lady in the community George’s Grandmother who was 102. All deaths were really terrible but atleast they had hope in Jesus when all else has gone we have Jesus Christ.
God came to visit us and knew what we needed before we even asked but it’s the faith and the asking that God requires.
Faith without works is dead and works without faith is dead...
Mike spoke again on the same subject and it was just so exciting and new as in Isaiah 43 it talks about how God is doing a new thing and he is and all those prayers were answered and are being answered. The following week we used the new equipment for a service in malaria and it was so powerful that even those who didn’t come to the service heard it and people are coming to the Lord.
I did say though that these are Gods instruments for spiritual warfare not a lovely time of worship but we need to use it to win Suna for God and go into the enemies camp and bring back souls that have been in prison for years in Satan.
God came to visit us and knew what we needed before we even asked but it’s the faith and the asking that God requires.Faith without works is dead and works without faith is dead..
We also thank God for Mike coming he was and is such a blessing and an encouragement and all the praise goes to God amen and may God bless and prosper Mike in his ministry too and we are praying he will come back in December for the conference…….
GIVING NOTES...Chris Welch
Finances are needed as direct gifts.
Or you may want to be a FINANCIAL ANGEL, where you are either giving or loaning money to a central fund to be administered by trustworthy people locally in Suna area, as revolving loans for establishing new enterprises.
Kingdom Giving is a revelation like everything in the Kingdom. If you think you understand something, you probably don't.
If you have a need or desire for something that you feel has come from God, then unlike most Brits reacting to a fleshy version of Seed faith practiced in the States, IT IS PERFECTLY FINE to sow money into the Kingdom then believe God to answer the need that is on your heart. We ARE to test God in this. Most Brits have this inner fear lest God doesn't show up, so like the servant who buries his talent in the ground...because " I thought you were a hard master"....they flunk out and say religiously.....
Oh well I'll give to Elaine, but because I'm righteous I don't expect God to give anything back because that would be selfish.
If God is in you, and He is expressing His desires and wants in you, then those things on your heart are precious and not selfish....but like all things we receive by faith...BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST we give for the expansion of the Kingdom.
Tithing is crap, not because giving is crap, but it feeds your stupid belief that God hasn't nailed all demands of the Old Covenant to the Cross. We don't "do" anything for Jesus to get righteousness....we are so superawed that God invaded our lives at all and GAVE us His Righteousness that we want everyone to know about it...and it's helpful if they are still alive first to hear it !!!! We LOVE because He first loved us.
The people DOING the Kingdom stuff don't get supported. The people NOT doing the Kingdom stuff get put into leadership positions in costly buildings that drain all the saints' finances. Who do you think Jewishbusinessmen derive their shrewdness and business acumen from? GOD DEMANDS FRUITFULNESS, because HIS SON IN US is fruitful. If it was up to us, God would let us off. But He has invested Jesus inside us, and demands Jesus sized fruit. Call it the Father's JESUS BANK......US.
And He demands THIRTY, SIXTY AND HUNDRED FOLD FRUITFULNESS...because His Son really is that fruitful!!!!
....Some food for pondering as a detached friend of Elaine Waterfield (who they call Nya Suna, daughter of their Suna District).
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6. REFERENCE : ELAINE W.Wednesday, 17 October 2012
Beware - Adventure !!! Part2 - Elaine Waterfield
I give myself away so you can use me as I am a friend of God and he calls me friend
Elaine Waterfield explains from the inside out what life as a missionary actually feels like.
Elaine Waterfield explains from the inside out what life as a missionary actually feels like.
by Elaine Waterfield on Wednesday, 17 October 2012 at 07:21 ·
Nobody has any idea what its like to be a missionary unless you have lived as one especially in a rural area and living within a community whose culture and traditions re so very different to the ones you have been brought up in. But I thank God for the privalidge to be one and being sent out to Iraq and Kenya. I havent been sent by a missionary society but sent by God no church behind me just lots of friends who hve helped me and and supported me and my community in our darkest hour. But I give myself away God so you can use me.my life is not my own to you I belong I give myselfy away.
I have become two people Nya Suna Wiga and Laineeloo and they are two very different people when I go to the airport off to kenya Laineeloo becomes Nya suna when I go to the airport back to Heathrow I am laineeloo and sometimes I get very confused and its difficult to adjust. It takes six weeks to get back to living like a Mzungu and six months to revert to Nya Suna living in a semi perminant house and using a hole in the floor for a toilet with bats and flies maggots and sometimes stench behyond imagination. Visitng houses with children who have died because of ignorance and girls subjected to prostitution because of poverty and the need of education and info to iradicate poverty and ignorance.
Frustration of language barrier, culture and tradition which at times I fail to undertand and cant cope with, food which for me is alien to me and find myself with diaroreah and sickness, widow inheritance and the mind blowing practise of getting a alcohlics or special needs men to have sex iwith a widow whose died to cleanse them as well as polygamy.Sometimes at night when theres no elctricity an no water light and its very lonely and I feeling incredibly home sick I just wonder what on earth am I doing here but then God says " for the Kingdom of God and did you think that to take up your cross for me would be easy."
I have had temper tantrums and mardy fits becasue of the language barrier, what grates on my nerves is that the people can speak english but still speak in Luo and alll day I dont understand what they talkiing about but blabber and cant engage in a conversation and then go back to a dark house with silence.and cry to God WHY WHY WHY WHAT AM I DOING HERE and God lovingly says the KINGDOM OF GOD and when I wake up it is all OK.But if you took all of it away I would be devasated its my life and I love to be pushed and stretched as that where you see God. When i go off with the hump as I dont understand whats happening in a meeting they tell me its bad behaviour and so I dispair so the only solution is when I go back to learn the language and teach them english. Plus they want to eat all day food is so important to them it comes before anything even God sometimes they had a fund raising and the spirit was moveing but they stopped for lunch, Me I hate food to me foos means getting fat and being mocked. Mardy Nya Suna but maybe one day they will understand. Food to the britts esepcacially women is a curse pile on the pounds and you cant get it off, Wjat takes me six months in Africa to loose I pile it back on in six weeks. Also when I am away they dont communicte but then ie expect its the pessa.. but I have no money either what is happening but when I go back I will surely find out?
When I arrived in Africa I was fatter and unfit and africans are terrible " you are too fat to sit on my bike," " you cant tell your breasts from your stomache and you re heavy so for a woman who suffered with anerexia and starved herself to 6 stone it was an anerexics hell but made you get over stuff. Its kind of like a love hate realtionship.
However what draws me back is how I have seen the hand of God in a community of people who are beautiful and loving and who haver tremendous faith and whose worship (although takes time to get your head round coming from a very quiet back ground in comparison) its addictive and powerful, so when you come back to UK the quiteness has becomes as frustrating and boring. I miss the clapping of hands and the vibrant singing and demons being cast out I remember one day in the Uk house having a fellowship group all clapping shouting singing jumping and I thought these people were mad ( so differen to west End) so sitting outside I saw a young man coming out of the Uk house rolling on the floor and I thought" thats it God no more choruwoks "and do you know what God did he had me cast demons out of him and i miss chokruwoks in my UK house so God can I please have some more.
I have had some really treasurable experiences seeing Morris and Challis and Nashons lives turn around from alcohol and a life of crime and now seeing them witness to others and from being despised they are respected. Seeing young girls being empowered by a football tournement for girls giving them a voice in their struggles and confidence, encouragement and knowledge that Girls OK God loves Girls and Girls are preciouse. Praising God and singing with makongeni church up the mountain and walking home at 2am and bumping into all these drunks and leading them to the Lord. Seeing peoples health restored from near death and seeing God build a clinic and ward and office in a very short time, climbing up mount kilamanjaro even only for a shirt way for a day, God made a way when we had no money to fullfill a dream. Seeing Pam walking round house after house in Liegh park to raise money which went on school fees for girls. to see such interaction is amazing.Poor Pam she did get a bit of abuse but shes a stalwart and did an amazing job.
I never thought I would be given the task of given a stick and walking round the field praying wher to put htem for the foundation od a church and seeing the Lord get people making the bricks and getting them ready to build.Parents going up the mountain and praying for school feees whilst the Lord at the same time speaks to someone in the Uk to give money for school fees.Lord you are good and your mercy endyreth forever. One of the other great moments was to see two familes in adultry to repent and give their lives to God and forgive awesome. The list goes on and how I had nothing and God provided with money even money for a cow to feed people at a convention this happened a few times.i was also inspired how friends gave and gave praise God as without them we would be stuffed and not got where we are today.In Chuingni people are calling babies Elaine after me and in Chungni I have so many children so God is amazing he restores the years the locusts have eaten as in Uk my kids have given up on me
Every time I seem to get to a place where I am used to my life in Chungni I have to come back to the Uk and by this time I feel drained and need my bucket filing but faiingl to realise that my bucket has been filled to over flowing. I get to the point where I dont want to go back to England and would even contemplae hiding in the mountains to avoid coming back to blighty..
Back in England I miss my kenyan family and with phone calls that are expensive and time difference I have lost six weeks and wonder whats happening and feel I missed so much. but do you know God is the same God in Kenya as he is here. Despite the worry of silly visa and things out of my control I have been so blessed and filled up again, God provided me with a years multi visa amen, I have experienced worshiping and praying with 300000 people in Wembley Football stadium and seing the glory of God coming down and where people come to worship football and idol and spend loads of money to get to we are worshiping the living God then at night we saw an ex football hooligan Renton giving testimony of how Jesus changed his life a violent guy now changed and restored he was such an angry man who lived his life wanting to fight the oposing team hatred that was demonic but now you would have never believed he was the same man.
London to me going there seemed to be very plastic all about what you earn who you are and know what you look like and wealth thank God in Gods kingdom it doesnt matter what you are and who your we are all needing salvation and are all saved by Grace and nothing can change us or help us only Jesus death and ressurection on the cross.
When I went to Leicester I was able to preach in the town and meet with friends pray up old John with Fatima kids and Gemma for George and Sarahs child Jamoko who was restored and healed by faith and prayer amen. I met Sandie hastings a police officer who I met whilst working on an estate in Leicester and she is dealing with Restoative Justice. We became really good friends over the years Big Sis I remember when Nigel was alive we had a phone call to say that her dad was in hspital and we all went to pray outside the Leicester Royal Informary and do you know what the father got better over the months and yet he had only 23% chance of survival amen. God gave him a few more years of life and this time he died and Sandie was at peace and happy the way the hospital treated him. She is seeking raki which isnt a christian thing todo so pray that Jesus changes her life and be with her today as they bury Brad.
Another amazing thing was to see Steven a lad from Glen Parva HMP now out I met him and his parents and they thanked Nigel and me for we had had an influence on him and wow that blew my mind away. They saw that Nigel came to see them every week despite the fact that he was in a wheelchair with Muscualr dystrophy. Moments like these are treasures God gave me the chance to see how what we did as a couple did make a difference.
Went to see Dave and Tammy and Kids wow was like I had never been away that was treasuarble and I cried when i left as I miss them they were my family and still are, I love them I have so many memories like when Tammy who was on crutches at the time and Nigel in the wheelchair was sat waiting for me in the car and I had nt put the handbreak on and they were rolling down the hill thank goodness Tammy managed to get it in time depsite the struggle. The when we went preaching in Northampton Nigel went into the shop when it rained but they thought he was in the toilet.. steve and dave where standing outside and shouting Nigel are you alright/ soooooooooooooooooooo funny.
Didnt see Steve he was in rehab to dry out from alcohol but he was sent back to Dupont he so needs to be sent somewhere esle out of the way of Friends. I pray Lord you send some more missionaries there and a church in Dupont Gardens . I looked at the close and thought of all the street parties and bible studies prayers and tears and laughter and how the kids used to be seen as nobodys just ASBO kids but God loved them and saw them going to sunday school Kingsway fellowship. From throwing stones after four years we visited High grove were prince charles lives and they were amazing kids so well behaved love them and all the friends there amazing times. I did go out a couple of evening as a sterrt apstor thanks to Frank and enjoyed having a go on a skate board although I fell off nearly silly me but it does have a purpose street pastors is bridges the gap between young and old and makes a difference if you dont always see it so keep on folks.
During this time I was greatly pleased to have spoken on line to the man who brought me back to the Lord and had the privalidge to have thanked him. I had been a back slider for 20 years and hated christians but he told me to always put God before man and his witness was a great encouragement to me and had it not have been for that witness I wouldnt have been and done things I was doing now So Julian thank you I will always be endebted to you and you will awlays have a special place in my heart as my spiritual parent and the man who changed my life. God turned my beauty to ashes and sorrow in to joy mourning into dances.
One of the hardest things for me to witness was to see a special friend in a wheelchair he looked like a different person and couldnt walk or talk and that upset me as he was the life and soul of the church. It. It reminded me of all the struggles me and Nigel went through and I got a little agnry with God because I never thoguht this would happen to my friend who I looked up to and thought so much of who I love greatly as a man of God It was just a shock and a reminder of Nigels struggles, something I put on the back burner so please pray for healing and restoration in my friends life.
This weekend I am going to Belfast thats a miracle Mandy invited me to a ball and yet I have no money my friends were saying I couldny go no dress no shoes no ticket but hey ho guess what God provided me with a kind lady who pais for my ticket, I cried all night as I have always wanted togo to a ball and God dad my husband heard my cry and now cinderalla can go to the ball.
Now after all the moods and tears about visa I am going to find leaving UK diificult but very much looking forward to going back to Chungni and learning all what happening there. Its just hard meeting firends again seen my mum who is more spiritual than I thought and getting used to light how water baths and driving the car to the beach and cycling with christine meeting up with pam and anne and having a conversation in my own language.
However I miss preaching and teaching waking up to beautiful country side and the heat watching Challis and Nashon grow in God gadding about on the pikki pikki with George and miss sarahs sense of humour and wisdom and cooking. little jamoko . brian roger the dodger Makongeni church and singing santa sana buana climbing the mountain miss their faith Africa is magical, spiritual place that draws me pulls me and shapes me restores me. People from Chungni have given to me far more than I could have ever given. A sense of family, love, care and acceptence a purpose in life when at the time I went I was on at risk with the doctors of suicide because I was grieving for Nigel and had given up and in pain as my family had abandonded me they gave me hope to see lives changed and restoring, plus a big thanks to George and Sarah who have helped me change into a very different person without them I couldnt have done anything even going to the chanaga brerey to preach love that family and little jamoko love Makognei church Maragert and Domincus peter Dominic Pastor Joshua and Pastor Peter without all these people and most opf all God nothing would have been possible. without Trevor and Joan. Christine and Chris Pam and Anne, Hayley Ruth and Martin Frank Parker and so amny many others.
In Uk the people who have been my rock is Trevor Davies my bessie bessie mate he provides me accomodation friendship a car and listens to hours of me going on but great fun in the digger getting off the ivy, Plus frank and sally parker who helped me get places to speak and Ruth and Martin . Anne and Pam who help so much and chris and christine without their friendship and support none of this would be possible all people who help and support love you to bits in chungni kenya and Uk.
Linvoy faith and football have given me some kit to take back and Pam and nne have got stuff too and martin and ruth
With Jesus you go to places you never thought you would go do things you never thought you would do and meet people you never thought you would meet its so true..
So I pray God that you wil send me back to Africa with a new song to sing and a new thing and do even more amazing things as the best is yet to come. But I do pray that I get sponsership and we do get help and people do come to see us as I am broke and we cant do anything unless we have money and people are just wanting and waiting people like Trevor Martin Ruth and Joey Daniels to come and visit we need ideas, inspiration and to know that they are thought of and as I found they give back far more than we can ever give
Cherry Silcox on FacebookI have become two people Nya Suna Wiga and Laineeloo and they are two very different people when I go to the airport off to kenya Laineeloo becomes Nya suna when I go to the airport back to Heathrow I am laineeloo and sometimes I get very confused and its difficult to adjust. It takes six weeks to get back to living like a Mzungu and six months to revert to Nya Suna living in a semi perminant house and using a hole in the floor for a toilet with bats and flies maggots and sometimes stench behyond imagination. Visitng houses with children who have died because of ignorance and girls subjected to prostitution because of poverty and the need of education and info to iradicate poverty and ignorance.
Frustration of language barrier, culture and tradition which at times I fail to undertand and cant cope with, food which for me is alien to me and find myself with diaroreah and sickness, widow inheritance and the mind blowing practise of getting a alcohlics or special needs men to have sex iwith a widow whose died to cleanse them as well as polygamy.Sometimes at night when theres no elctricity an no water light and its very lonely and I feeling incredibly home sick I just wonder what on earth am I doing here but then God says " for the Kingdom of God and did you think that to take up your cross for me would be easy."
I have had temper tantrums and mardy fits becasue of the language barrier, what grates on my nerves is that the people can speak english but still speak in Luo and alll day I dont understand what they talkiing about but blabber and cant engage in a conversation and then go back to a dark house with silence.and cry to God WHY WHY WHY WHAT AM I DOING HERE and God lovingly says the KINGDOM OF GOD and when I wake up it is all OK.But if you took all of it away I would be devasated its my life and I love to be pushed and stretched as that where you see God. When i go off with the hump as I dont understand whats happening in a meeting they tell me its bad behaviour and so I dispair so the only solution is when I go back to learn the language and teach them english. Plus they want to eat all day food is so important to them it comes before anything even God sometimes they had a fund raising and the spirit was moveing but they stopped for lunch, Me I hate food to me foos means getting fat and being mocked. Mardy Nya Suna but maybe one day they will understand. Food to the britts esepcacially women is a curse pile on the pounds and you cant get it off, Wjat takes me six months in Africa to loose I pile it back on in six weeks. Also when I am away they dont communicte but then ie expect its the pessa.. but I have no money either what is happening but when I go back I will surely find out?
When I arrived in Africa I was fatter and unfit and africans are terrible " you are too fat to sit on my bike," " you cant tell your breasts from your stomache and you re heavy so for a woman who suffered with anerexia and starved herself to 6 stone it was an anerexics hell but made you get over stuff. Its kind of like a love hate realtionship.
However what draws me back is how I have seen the hand of God in a community of people who are beautiful and loving and who haver tremendous faith and whose worship (although takes time to get your head round coming from a very quiet back ground in comparison) its addictive and powerful, so when you come back to UK the quiteness has becomes as frustrating and boring. I miss the clapping of hands and the vibrant singing and demons being cast out I remember one day in the Uk house having a fellowship group all clapping shouting singing jumping and I thought these people were mad ( so differen to west End) so sitting outside I saw a young man coming out of the Uk house rolling on the floor and I thought" thats it God no more choruwoks "and do you know what God did he had me cast demons out of him and i miss chokruwoks in my UK house so God can I please have some more.
I have had some really treasurable experiences seeing Morris and Challis and Nashons lives turn around from alcohol and a life of crime and now seeing them witness to others and from being despised they are respected. Seeing young girls being empowered by a football tournement for girls giving them a voice in their struggles and confidence, encouragement and knowledge that Girls OK God loves Girls and Girls are preciouse. Praising God and singing with makongeni church up the mountain and walking home at 2am and bumping into all these drunks and leading them to the Lord. Seeing peoples health restored from near death and seeing God build a clinic and ward and office in a very short time, climbing up mount kilamanjaro even only for a shirt way for a day, God made a way when we had no money to fullfill a dream. Seeing Pam walking round house after house in Liegh park to raise money which went on school fees for girls. to see such interaction is amazing.Poor Pam she did get a bit of abuse but shes a stalwart and did an amazing job.
I never thought I would be given the task of given a stick and walking round the field praying wher to put htem for the foundation od a church and seeing the Lord get people making the bricks and getting them ready to build.Parents going up the mountain and praying for school feees whilst the Lord at the same time speaks to someone in the Uk to give money for school fees.Lord you are good and your mercy endyreth forever. One of the other great moments was to see two familes in adultry to repent and give their lives to God and forgive awesome. The list goes on and how I had nothing and God provided with money even money for a cow to feed people at a convention this happened a few times.i was also inspired how friends gave and gave praise God as without them we would be stuffed and not got where we are today.In Chuingni people are calling babies Elaine after me and in Chungni I have so many children so God is amazing he restores the years the locusts have eaten as in Uk my kids have given up on me
Every time I seem to get to a place where I am used to my life in Chungni I have to come back to the Uk and by this time I feel drained and need my bucket filing but faiingl to realise that my bucket has been filled to over flowing. I get to the point where I dont want to go back to England and would even contemplae hiding in the mountains to avoid coming back to blighty..
Back in England I miss my kenyan family and with phone calls that are expensive and time difference I have lost six weeks and wonder whats happening and feel I missed so much. but do you know God is the same God in Kenya as he is here. Despite the worry of silly visa and things out of my control I have been so blessed and filled up again, God provided me with a years multi visa amen, I have experienced worshiping and praying with 300000 people in Wembley Football stadium and seing the glory of God coming down and where people come to worship football and idol and spend loads of money to get to we are worshiping the living God then at night we saw an ex football hooligan Renton giving testimony of how Jesus changed his life a violent guy now changed and restored he was such an angry man who lived his life wanting to fight the oposing team hatred that was demonic but now you would have never believed he was the same man.
London to me going there seemed to be very plastic all about what you earn who you are and know what you look like and wealth thank God in Gods kingdom it doesnt matter what you are and who your we are all needing salvation and are all saved by Grace and nothing can change us or help us only Jesus death and ressurection on the cross.
When I went to Leicester I was able to preach in the town and meet with friends pray up old John with Fatima kids and Gemma for George and Sarahs child Jamoko who was restored and healed by faith and prayer amen. I met Sandie hastings a police officer who I met whilst working on an estate in Leicester and she is dealing with Restoative Justice. We became really good friends over the years Big Sis I remember when Nigel was alive we had a phone call to say that her dad was in hspital and we all went to pray outside the Leicester Royal Informary and do you know what the father got better over the months and yet he had only 23% chance of survival amen. God gave him a few more years of life and this time he died and Sandie was at peace and happy the way the hospital treated him. She is seeking raki which isnt a christian thing todo so pray that Jesus changes her life and be with her today as they bury Brad.
Another amazing thing was to see Steven a lad from Glen Parva HMP now out I met him and his parents and they thanked Nigel and me for we had had an influence on him and wow that blew my mind away. They saw that Nigel came to see them every week despite the fact that he was in a wheelchair with Muscualr dystrophy. Moments like these are treasures God gave me the chance to see how what we did as a couple did make a difference.
Went to see Dave and Tammy and Kids wow was like I had never been away that was treasuarble and I cried when i left as I miss them they were my family and still are, I love them I have so many memories like when Tammy who was on crutches at the time and Nigel in the wheelchair was sat waiting for me in the car and I had nt put the handbreak on and they were rolling down the hill thank goodness Tammy managed to get it in time depsite the struggle. The when we went preaching in Northampton Nigel went into the shop when it rained but they thought he was in the toilet.. steve and dave where standing outside and shouting Nigel are you alright/ soooooooooooooooooooo funny.
Didnt see Steve he was in rehab to dry out from alcohol but he was sent back to Dupont he so needs to be sent somewhere esle out of the way of Friends. I pray Lord you send some more missionaries there and a church in Dupont Gardens . I looked at the close and thought of all the street parties and bible studies prayers and tears and laughter and how the kids used to be seen as nobodys just ASBO kids but God loved them and saw them going to sunday school Kingsway fellowship. From throwing stones after four years we visited High grove were prince charles lives and they were amazing kids so well behaved love them and all the friends there amazing times. I did go out a couple of evening as a sterrt apstor thanks to Frank and enjoyed having a go on a skate board although I fell off nearly silly me but it does have a purpose street pastors is bridges the gap between young and old and makes a difference if you dont always see it so keep on folks.
During this time I was greatly pleased to have spoken on line to the man who brought me back to the Lord and had the privalidge to have thanked him. I had been a back slider for 20 years and hated christians but he told me to always put God before man and his witness was a great encouragement to me and had it not have been for that witness I wouldnt have been and done things I was doing now So Julian thank you I will always be endebted to you and you will awlays have a special place in my heart as my spiritual parent and the man who changed my life. God turned my beauty to ashes and sorrow in to joy mourning into dances.
One of the hardest things for me to witness was to see a special friend in a wheelchair he looked like a different person and couldnt walk or talk and that upset me as he was the life and soul of the church. It. It reminded me of all the struggles me and Nigel went through and I got a little agnry with God because I never thoguht this would happen to my friend who I looked up to and thought so much of who I love greatly as a man of God It was just a shock and a reminder of Nigels struggles, something I put on the back burner so please pray for healing and restoration in my friends life.
This weekend I am going to Belfast thats a miracle Mandy invited me to a ball and yet I have no money my friends were saying I couldny go no dress no shoes no ticket but hey ho guess what God provided me with a kind lady who pais for my ticket, I cried all night as I have always wanted togo to a ball and God dad my husband heard my cry and now cinderalla can go to the ball.
Now after all the moods and tears about visa I am going to find leaving UK diificult but very much looking forward to going back to Chungni and learning all what happening there. Its just hard meeting firends again seen my mum who is more spiritual than I thought and getting used to light how water baths and driving the car to the beach and cycling with christine meeting up with pam and anne and having a conversation in my own language.
However I miss preaching and teaching waking up to beautiful country side and the heat watching Challis and Nashon grow in God gadding about on the pikki pikki with George and miss sarahs sense of humour and wisdom and cooking. little jamoko . brian roger the dodger Makongeni church and singing santa sana buana climbing the mountain miss their faith Africa is magical, spiritual place that draws me pulls me and shapes me restores me. People from Chungni have given to me far more than I could have ever given. A sense of family, love, care and acceptence a purpose in life when at the time I went I was on at risk with the doctors of suicide because I was grieving for Nigel and had given up and in pain as my family had abandonded me they gave me hope to see lives changed and restoring, plus a big thanks to George and Sarah who have helped me change into a very different person without them I couldnt have done anything even going to the chanaga brerey to preach love that family and little jamoko love Makognei church Maragert and Domincus peter Dominic Pastor Joshua and Pastor Peter without all these people and most opf all God nothing would have been possible. without Trevor and Joan. Christine and Chris Pam and Anne, Hayley Ruth and Martin Frank Parker and so amny many others.
In Uk the people who have been my rock is Trevor Davies my bessie bessie mate he provides me accomodation friendship a car and listens to hours of me going on but great fun in the digger getting off the ivy, Plus frank and sally parker who helped me get places to speak and Ruth and Martin . Anne and Pam who help so much and chris and christine without their friendship and support none of this would be possible all people who help and support love you to bits in chungni kenya and Uk.
Linvoy faith and football have given me some kit to take back and Pam and nne have got stuff too and martin and ruth
With Jesus you go to places you never thought you would go do things you never thought you would do and meet people you never thought you would meet its so true..
So I pray God that you wil send me back to Africa with a new song to sing and a new thing and do even more amazing things as the best is yet to come. But I do pray that I get sponsership and we do get help and people do come to see us as I am broke and we cant do anything unless we have money and people are just wanting and waiting people like Trevor Martin Ruth and Joey Daniels to come and visit we need ideas, inspiration and to know that they are thought of and as I found they give back far more than we can ever give
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Wednesday, 1 August 2012
Donate Now to the Kilimanjaro Climb
But first, A Third Level Vision for Giving....Chris Welch
In former times missionary giving was always couched in terms like this:
See what the Saviour has come and given us, leaving His glory behind and enduring humiliation even unto a Cross, so should we also give Him all we have.
And much good has come of this, except it isn't third level. It may be how just about every church runs on earth, especially instructing people that salvation comes through Jesus PLUS tithing, and then you will be saved. But this is NOT salvation and it is not third level giving.
So I'll say what third level giving is after quoting these verses.
Psalm110 The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'
This is the true vision of the Church. And the true vision out of which everything proceeds. We have a Risen Head. A Man in heaven. He is not now even a third level Man, a Father level person on earth, as described in 1 John 2 :12 ff, no, this Man is in His fourth stage, prefigured on the Mount of Transfiguration. This is FULLY GLORIFIED, FULLY RISEN MAN exercising Co-Dominion with the Father, and He is the firstborn of ALL CREATION, and ALL NEW CREATION, the first of an innumerable amount of brethren, THE FIRST FRUITS.....from the womb.....from the morning.
What womb?
What morning?
The womb of the sufferings of the Cross.
The Easter morning which is the same day when one single sheaf is waved as first fruits on the first day of the week at Passover.
What gospel missionaries only partially explained in previous times was the victory of Christ and exhorted us to be "like Him", completely missing the point of the Cross.
Were it just to forgive sins, all well and good, but it isn't just to forgive sins.
There were TWO GOATS that were sacrificed to describe this.
One goat was offered for sin and was totally burned up.
A second goat was sent as a scapegoat out from the midst of Israel into the wastes of the wilderness.
Jesus NOT ONLY took all our sins, He bore us away too. He took our essential Adamic spirit identities right down to where they naturally gravitated,hell, and left the Adamic spirit of death right there, then
bound up with Him , He redeemed our spirits that were lost and bound in Darkness, and caught them up in Himself in a New Creation Man.
Our lives are "hidden" Greek...interwoven , interleaved with Christ in GOD.
OUR "I AM's" , our spirits, are hidden with Christ in God. Done deal.
It's just hardly anybody knows......even Christians too.
So this is the source of confusion about giving.
Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning,
We do not give gifts really. We do not tithe, that is, the Old Covenant behaviour of tithing
WE ARE the freewill gifts.
And out from our identity as the freewill gifts, comes everything we do as Christians. A part of which is giving.
Oh, Chris, the pastors say, that is idealistic. If I trusted and relied on people getting this revelation of giving then I'd be out of a church and I'd have to get a job.
To which I reply...."And the problem is....?
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What I believe is this. We are the household of faith. As the Other-Love, Giving of Self to Others, Revelation of Christ's Giving Person, Our new identity in Him, busts out of our new created spirits and takes over more and more of our souls.....so we LIVE full time in this revelation
We are GOING to HAVE no trouble at all in supporting people with Word to share full-time, as they did in Acts, and as they supported Jesus in the gospels. Freewill offerings.
Meanwhile....
although 1980s charismatics don't yet understand the thirdlevel foundation of our giving, they have been learning some precious spiritual principles.
People who live and move in the Melchizedek Order, listening to and seeing what the Master is doing (Psalm 123) and put themselves out on a limb by faith, these are "the sons of God". Those who are led by the Spirit, these are sons of God.Romans 8:14 This is the new priesthood who serve day and night in the house of God. "We are a holy nation,a royal priesthood" 1 Peter 2:9
The Household of faith
Galations 6:10 Interlinear - "so then as occasion we have we should work good toward all but especially toward those of the household - of the- of faith"
It is the household of faith who we give to PRIMARILY. There is a Melchizedek blessing, a special blessing of God for those who give to the household of faith.
Tithing may have worked in the approximate settings of the Nation of Israel, but "a Greater has now come" who now serves in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Ministers who still live from tithes are living in the Old Covenant. They are NOT really the household of faith. Telling people that they must give tithes, then living from this collection of tenths of income.....well....you may as well be a salaried employee of Inland Revenue, because that is all you are doing.
People like Jackie Pullinger To when she started out in Hong Kong, and Elaine Waterfield are putting their lives on the line. It is a different order of giving. It is giving yourself lock stock and barrel to the Lord for your existence.
But as Jessie Duplantis said when talking on this subject. There are people you give to and the blessing does not rebound in the same way. You try it with Elaine Waterfield and Rich Novek, who has just launched himself out in this wayof faith. There is an anointing upon God's work done in God's way.
George Mueller proved to us as a forerunner of our current move, that you don't even have to tell people. In reality there IS NO LAW how we do things. For each it is up to the Holy Spirit to indicate. People can only give according to their standard of measure.
The standard of measure
This is way too weird for those who think their entire brain consists of their articulate reasoning. What about the way music hits you then? Articulate that to me? Sure we can give brief descriptions, but neither music nor the Presence of the Lord can be articulated that well, because that bit of our vessel that articulates wasn't made for picking up things like faith, dreams,"the single eye" that Jesus talks about....all this is understood by spirit and uses different parts of our being.
So the standard of measure is very related to how big our vision of God is. It is related also to what part of the Heavenly Tabernacle we most relate to...to the extent also we have entered into the River of God in experience. If we are just dipping our toes in, we won't have the faith to give that much yet, for we haven't proved God enough in our whole lives. And God knows and understands, and like a kindly Father is just anxious to get us to experiment more.
Experiencing the Seed
The more third level seed we experience. This is the Word of Christ "dwelling in us richly", either in us direct or as spoken to us by a thirdleveller/father ministry, the more our standard of measure changes on our insides.
This is what I wrote on my Facebook status this morning. It is what I woke up with.
In the third level it is Christ's seed,it is Christ Himself speaking through someone. Up until then there are spiritual gifts and people talking ABOUT Christ. What do you think Gideon's smashing of the pots was about? An olympic light festival? The Enemy did a runner. The Enemy is fine with waffle ABOUT Christ but CHRIST HIMSELF "I'm outta here!!"
The issue has always been a Third Level One : Has God Come In the Flesh? Peter said "Yes" and on that foundation the Church in the Earth first manifested.
The Heavenly Tabernacle described in Hebrews still stands. The Brazen Altar and the Laver Mirror is where you receive Christ's Seed of Life from above. The shewbread teaching about Christ and the Holy Spirit (gift) Candlesticks point to an existence of God coming in the flesh,but the Third Level LIVES it. This is an acacia box covered in gold within and without...our human boxes having a consciousness of Christ
The gospel that we share is simply Christ in us the hope of glory. All our giving is voluntary as the Holy Spirit indicates, and comes out of this essential freewill offering of Christ which included OUR DEATH and RESURRECTION IN HIM.
Give and It shall be given Unto you
What do you do as we career along in this life of the Spirit, and He dares to lead in new ways which we can't directly find spelled out in the Bible? Do you shut it off? Or do you adopt new practices as they seem to flow in the Holy Spirit?
Like women preaching and teaching.
Like Oral Roberts and Seed faith
Like Fire Tunnels which I experienced again in Lee On Solent this week.
Seed faith says that as we reach out to God for something that is totally beyond us, we give to the Lord but specifically "name" that seed. What is a seed gift but some money or possession that represents a certain amount of "man hours' labour" to earn? Or in Abrahamic terms,one of his "gifts" was his very own Child of Promise son, Isaac. Either way God honours us reaching out with any faith whatsoever. And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Imagine one side of God allowed to run forever and ever on a tape loop? And what you get is the Illuminati,the council of 300,the Bankers, the Elite who want everything their way and are planning to destroy ninetenths of the Earth so that all the resources remain theirs with a manageable serfdom administrating it all....the survivors under them.
Cherry Silcox on Facebook
Everyone!!! look at Elaine Waterfields' profile!!! This is a WOMAN on her OWN doing the WORK of THE LORD in DARKEST AFRICA!!!! she needs YOUR help so she can help the desperate people she ministers to!!
Elaine and George both did the climb up Kilimanjaro. You cannot just go up to the top without paying an enormous sum of money , which is hard enough for first world people, but absolutely impossible for most Kenyans and missionaries there. So they climbed halfway up.
Elaine is really real. She doesn't pretend. She is driven onward by her inward drive, and by reaching out to God in faith.(Think Jackie Pullinger) But from one day to the next her feelings about it all may go right up and down.
Yet she feels called by God to serve here, share her faith, and encourage others in a poor part of Kenya towards new ways of life, and ofcourse faith in God.
Facebook statuses
"WHEN I SEE ALL THAT gOD HAS DONE HERE ITS AWESOME THE FOOTBALL TOURNEMENT THE BUILDING THE LIVES SAVED IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS ITS GREAT TO BE APART OF IT. BUT THE STRUGGLES IS THE NEED THE TERRIBLE NEED AND VMONEY BECOMES SO MUCH APART OF IT AND I HATE MONEY I HATE IT. I ALSO HATE THE BEING SICK UNCERTAINTY AND LANGUAGE BARRIERS AND LONLINESS BUT THATS WHAT IS TAKING UP JESUS CROSS I ALSO HATE BEING IN DEBT BUT GOS KNOWS AND HE IS THE ATHOUR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH"
"when people in western world see people asking in third world for money they see with western world eyes with their wealth and how they liue but here in remote kenya they have nothing and poverty is extreme so whenwe say we need money we need money for medical education electricity and bed 4 wards rehab oqphanage etc its ouerwhelming but if we got some backers it would change a community especially as god is changing lives andwe empower them 2 help themselves i pray god will help us"
"laineeloo is so fed up being on her own single and uery lonely and prays that god will send along a mate whose fun loving and will join her as a mirsionary on her trauels"
"today another drinker nelson elderly man christopher and solomon came 2 the lord and we praise god for salvation so please pray 4 them we so need money 4 a rehab i pray joey and noel and trev will come here we so need donors 2 help the work here love laineeloo"
I refuse to let this discourage me, because I know deep within me Christ taking root in our being means that we become generous, and that to expect that in one weekend is silly, but I thought I'd just give feedback as to how this post has been received compared to all the other posts here.
In former times missionary giving was always couched in terms like this:
See what the Saviour has come and given us, leaving His glory behind and enduring humiliation even unto a Cross, so should we also give Him all we have.
And much good has come of this, except it isn't third level. It may be how just about every church runs on earth, especially instructing people that salvation comes through Jesus PLUS tithing, and then you will be saved. But this is NOT salvation and it is not third level giving.
So I'll say what third level giving is after quoting these verses.
Psalm110 The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'
2 The rod of thy strength doth Jehovah send from Zion, Rule in the midst of thine enemies.
3 Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning, Thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4 Jehovah hath sworn, and doth not repent, `Thou [art] a priest to the age, According to the order of Melchizedek.'Youngs Literal
This is the true vision of the Church. And the true vision out of which everything proceeds. We have a Risen Head. A Man in heaven. He is not now even a third level Man, a Father level person on earth, as described in 1 John 2 :12 ff, no, this Man is in His fourth stage, prefigured on the Mount of Transfiguration. This is FULLY GLORIFIED, FULLY RISEN MAN exercising Co-Dominion with the Father, and He is the firstborn of ALL CREATION, and ALL NEW CREATION, the first of an innumerable amount of brethren, THE FIRST FRUITS.....from the womb.....from the morning.
What womb?
What morning?
The womb of the sufferings of the Cross.
The Easter morning which is the same day when one single sheaf is waved as first fruits on the first day of the week at Passover.
What gospel missionaries only partially explained in previous times was the victory of Christ and exhorted us to be "like Him", completely missing the point of the Cross.
Were it just to forgive sins, all well and good, but it isn't just to forgive sins.
There were TWO GOATS that were sacrificed to describe this.
One goat was offered for sin and was totally burned up.
A second goat was sent as a scapegoat out from the midst of Israel into the wastes of the wilderness.
Jesus NOT ONLY took all our sins, He bore us away too. He took our essential Adamic spirit identities right down to where they naturally gravitated,hell, and left the Adamic spirit of death right there, then
bound up with Him , He redeemed our spirits that were lost and bound in Darkness, and caught them up in Himself in a New Creation Man.
Our lives are "hidden" Greek...interwoven , interleaved with Christ in GOD.
OUR "I AM's" , our spirits, are hidden with Christ in God. Done deal.
It's just hardly anybody knows......even Christians too.
So this is the source of confusion about giving.
Thy people [are] free-will gifts in the day of Thy strength, in the honours of holiness, From the womb, from the morning,
We do not give gifts really. We do not tithe, that is, the Old Covenant behaviour of tithing
WE ARE the freewill gifts.
And out from our identity as the freewill gifts, comes everything we do as Christians. A part of which is giving.
Oh, Chris, the pastors say, that is idealistic. If I trusted and relied on people getting this revelation of giving then I'd be out of a church and I'd have to get a job.
To which I reply...."And the problem is....?
Just about all of us on Facebook work. All our activities of blogging , using Twitter or Facebook are voluntary.
What I believe is this. We are the household of faith. As the Other-Love, Giving of Self to Others, Revelation of Christ's Giving Person, Our new identity in Him, busts out of our new created spirits and takes over more and more of our souls.....so we LIVE full time in this revelation
We are GOING to HAVE no trouble at all in supporting people with Word to share full-time, as they did in Acts, and as they supported Jesus in the gospels. Freewill offerings.
Meanwhile....
although 1980s charismatics don't yet understand the thirdlevel foundation of our giving, they have been learning some precious spiritual principles.
People who live and move in the Melchizedek Order, listening to and seeing what the Master is doing (Psalm 123) and put themselves out on a limb by faith, these are "the sons of God". Those who are led by the Spirit, these are sons of God.Romans 8:14 This is the new priesthood who serve day and night in the house of God. "We are a holy nation,a royal priesthood" 1 Peter 2:9
The Household of faith
Galations 6:10 Interlinear - "so then as occasion we have we should work good toward all but especially toward those of the household - of the- of faith"
It is the household of faith who we give to PRIMARILY. There is a Melchizedek blessing, a special blessing of God for those who give to the household of faith.
Tithing may have worked in the approximate settings of the Nation of Israel, but "a Greater has now come" who now serves in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Ministers who still live from tithes are living in the Old Covenant. They are NOT really the household of faith. Telling people that they must give tithes, then living from this collection of tenths of income.....well....you may as well be a salaried employee of Inland Revenue, because that is all you are doing.
People like Jackie Pullinger To when she started out in Hong Kong, and Elaine Waterfield are putting their lives on the line. It is a different order of giving. It is giving yourself lock stock and barrel to the Lord for your existence.
But as Jessie Duplantis said when talking on this subject. There are people you give to and the blessing does not rebound in the same way. You try it with Elaine Waterfield and Rich Novek, who has just launched himself out in this wayof faith. There is an anointing upon God's work done in God's way.
George Mueller proved to us as a forerunner of our current move, that you don't even have to tell people. In reality there IS NO LAW how we do things. For each it is up to the Holy Spirit to indicate. People can only give according to their standard of measure.
The standard of measure
This is way too weird for those who think their entire brain consists of their articulate reasoning. What about the way music hits you then? Articulate that to me? Sure we can give brief descriptions, but neither music nor the Presence of the Lord can be articulated that well, because that bit of our vessel that articulates wasn't made for picking up things like faith, dreams,"the single eye" that Jesus talks about....all this is understood by spirit and uses different parts of our being.
So the standard of measure is very related to how big our vision of God is. It is related also to what part of the Heavenly Tabernacle we most relate to...to the extent also we have entered into the River of God in experience. If we are just dipping our toes in, we won't have the faith to give that much yet, for we haven't proved God enough in our whole lives. And God knows and understands, and like a kindly Father is just anxious to get us to experiment more.
Experiencing the Seed
The more third level seed we experience. This is the Word of Christ "dwelling in us richly", either in us direct or as spoken to us by a thirdleveller/father ministry, the more our standard of measure changes on our insides.
This is what I wrote on my Facebook status this morning. It is what I woke up with.
In the third level it is Christ's seed,it is Christ Himself speaking through someone. Up until then there are spiritual gifts and people talking ABOUT Christ. What do you think Gideon's smashing of the pots was about? An olympic light festival? The Enemy did a runner. The Enemy is fine with waffle ABOUT Christ but CHRIST HIMSELF "I'm outta here!!"
The issue has always been a Third Level One : Has God Come In the Flesh? Peter said "Yes" and on that foundation the Church in the Earth first manifested.
The Heavenly Tabernacle described in Hebrews still stands. The Brazen Altar and the Laver Mirror is where you receive Christ's Seed of Life from above. The shewbread teaching about Christ and the Holy Spirit (gift) Candlesticks point to an existence of God coming in the flesh,but the Third Level LIVES it. This is an acacia box covered in gold within and without...our human boxes having a consciousness of Christ
The gospel that we share is simply Christ in us the hope of glory. All our giving is voluntary as the Holy Spirit indicates, and comes out of this essential freewill offering of Christ which included OUR DEATH and RESURRECTION IN HIM.
Give and It shall be given Unto you
What do you do as we career along in this life of the Spirit, and He dares to lead in new ways which we can't directly find spelled out in the Bible? Do you shut it off? Or do you adopt new practices as they seem to flow in the Holy Spirit?
Like women preaching and teaching.
Like Oral Roberts and Seed faith
Like Fire Tunnels which I experienced again in Lee On Solent this week.
Seed faith says that as we reach out to God for something that is totally beyond us, we give to the Lord but specifically "name" that seed. What is a seed gift but some money or possession that represents a certain amount of "man hours' labour" to earn? Or in Abrahamic terms,one of his "gifts" was his very own Child of Promise son, Isaac. Either way God honours us reaching out with any faith whatsoever. And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Like anything, it can be us rubbing an Aladdin's Lamp in the delusion that we are a self-powered self, and God is at our beck and call. It's amazing how quickly God can disabuse us of this idea. But when we are confident of who we really are....now Christ in our form, in our personlality, in our body....all these spiritual "ways" are ours.....or "no activity at all"....just believing.
But God DOES name and bless spiritual activities that mean nothing after the flesh.....like
baptism in water
and breaking of bread.
Giving is a great "spiritual activity"
Not only is it great to give to God and other people, but God attaches special promises to it. Now my Facebook friend is a musician by temperament and he once wrote that we should be able to just give, and not expect stuff in return, for that means we are only giving to get, and that isn't giving at all. Well that's a musician's way of looking at things, content to make beautiful sounds all day. And my temperament is similar.However thankfully some of us are expressors of another part of God's personality: God the Entrepreneur, God the Developer and Multiplyer and Fruit Harvester. For this side of God the former talk is just way too airy fairy. So you see God is both. God is the Guardian Reader Leftie and the hardbitten Industrialist Telegraph reader Conservative.God is the God of Proverbs and prosperous businesses and farms and families, and God is also the God of the Jubilee Year when all property and money loans are called in.Giving is a great "spiritual activity"
Imagine one side of God allowed to run forever and ever on a tape loop? And what you get is the Illuminati,the council of 300,the Bankers, the Elite who want everything their way and are planning to destroy ninetenths of the Earth so that all the resources remain theirs with a manageable serfdom administrating it all....the survivors under them.
So God gives this promise. He says "Try Me". Give and it shall be given unto you, pressed down,running over, shall it be returned to you.
It's not always money. It's the WHOLE OF YOU. "I came that you should have life and life more abundantly." We think we are giving Him something when we give Him our life. So the first bit of Christianity is learning we are in fact nothing. Nothing but containers. before we were containers filled with Satan's false spirit of the Delusion of being self-powered, but it was really Satan. Self for self. Moving out of "survival"
Once God has eaten us out of house and home, and learned that we were never anything in our own right.....He then ADDS to us, pressed down, packed with abundance....Heaven's endless supply warehouses!!!!!! All accessed by faith....THE FAITH of the Son of God. Who Now lives within us.
Intercessory Trigger for Revival
If you have read Yonghi Cho of South Korea you will know that his vision only came to pass when a small old lady shuffled to the front, gave her only possession, a beaten up rice bowl with herself balanced precariously on it or around it. This so moved a millionnaire, that he offered to buy the bowl for a huge sum of money. And this was the trigger for the great church in Seoul. Which has become a mother church for so many around the world.
The Welsh revival began not with money or a gift....but the "giving" of a very reluctant confession of sinfulness by a teenage girl in the face of all the people she knew around her.
Elaine has already had national impact through Kenya television and meeting the Prime Minister two weeks ago. In the Spirit, though no official organisation will touch her or adopt her, just as to start with no organisation would touch Norman Grubb's latest materials, or Jackie Pullinger's early work in Hong Kong....yet Elaine has been faithful to sow in every bit of money left over from what she inherited at Nigel her husband's death.
It's not always money. It's the WHOLE OF YOU. "I came that you should have life and life more abundantly." We think we are giving Him something when we give Him our life. So the first bit of Christianity is learning we are in fact nothing. Nothing but containers. before we were containers filled with Satan's false spirit of the Delusion of being self-powered, but it was really Satan. Self for self. Moving out of "survival"
Once God has eaten us out of house and home, and learned that we were never anything in our own right.....He then ADDS to us, pressed down, packed with abundance....Heaven's endless supply warehouses!!!!!! All accessed by faith....THE FAITH of the Son of God. Who Now lives within us.
Intercessory Trigger for Revival
If you have read Yonghi Cho of South Korea you will know that his vision only came to pass when a small old lady shuffled to the front, gave her only possession, a beaten up rice bowl with herself balanced precariously on it or around it. This so moved a millionnaire, that he offered to buy the bowl for a huge sum of money. And this was the trigger for the great church in Seoul. Which has become a mother church for so many around the world.
The Welsh revival began not with money or a gift....but the "giving" of a very reluctant confession of sinfulness by a teenage girl in the face of all the people she knew around her.
Elaine has already had national impact through Kenya television and meeting the Prime Minister two weeks ago. In the Spirit, though no official organisation will touch her or adopt her, just as to start with no organisation would touch Norman Grubb's latest materials, or Jackie Pullinger's early work in Hong Kong....yet Elaine has been faithful to sow in every bit of money left over from what she inherited at Nigel her husband's death.
This is a completely different foundation for giving to someone like Elaine....and you just see what happens!!!!
Cherry Silcox on Facebook
23 July
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Elaine is really real. She doesn't pretend. She is driven onward by her inward drive, and by reaching out to God in faith.(Think Jackie Pullinger) But from one day to the next her feelings about it all may go right up and down.
Yet she feels called by God to serve here, share her faith, and encourage others in a poor part of Kenya towards new ways of life, and ofcourse faith in God.
"WHEN I SEE ALL THAT gOD HAS DONE HERE ITS AWESOME THE FOOTBALL TOURNEMENT THE BUILDING THE LIVES SAVED IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS ITS GREAT TO BE APART OF IT. BUT THE STRUGGLES IS THE NEED THE TERRIBLE NEED AND VMONEY BECOMES SO MUCH APART OF IT AND I HATE MONEY I HATE IT. I ALSO HATE THE BEING SICK UNCERTAINTY AND LANGUAGE BARRIERS AND LONLINESS BUT THATS WHAT IS TAKING UP JESUS CROSS I ALSO HATE BEING IN DEBT BUT GOS KNOWS AND HE IS THE ATHOUR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH"
"when people in western world see people asking in third world for money they see with western world eyes with their wealth and how they liue but here in remote kenya they have nothing and poverty is extreme so whenwe say we need money we need money for medical education electricity and bed 4 wards rehab oqphanage etc its ouerwhelming but if we got some backers it would change a community especially as god is changing lives andwe empower them 2 help themselves i pray god will help us"
"laineeloo is so fed up being on her own single and uery lonely and prays that god will send along a mate whose fun loving and will join her as a mirsionary on her trauels"
"today another drinker nelson elderly man christopher and solomon came 2 the lord and we praise god for salvation so please pray 4 them we so need money 4 a rehab i pray joey and noel and trev will come here we so need donors 2 help the work here love laineeloo"
"Laineeloo has a request what we need is surgical gloves and plastic covers for shoes, and anything thats helps in Midwifery. We also need a delivery couch. Yesterday we had a woman giving birth and its really difficult for Sarah to help in labour when the woman is laying on the floor also without proper medical wear and protection its really concerning me as HIV?AIDS is so high here and Hep A,B,C Can anyone Help Sarah even wih medical equipment its urgently needed here in a remote part of Suna Migori"
"so much has happened in the last year doing things i never thought and meeting people like the judge who sentenced suddam 2 death but nobody wants 2 no wat god has been doing because i am laineeloo or they think i am lying or i am a nobody not in the big christian scene but god knows and hears my prayers and i praise him for how is using me
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Emma Mcglynn Your a Giant, and we are all blessed by what God has been doing in your life and how you have stepped out in Faith. You have been a great Testimony and Servant and Helper and Encourager and far more than you realise. Thank you for sharing all your accounts and photos of your Mission and pray for me! Love Emma. xx23 July at 14:55 · · 1
Elaine Waterfield thank u emma but i wud like 2 say thank u 2 all the missionaries who work 4 the lord nobody nos about who work tiresly 4 the lord from uk 2 timbuck 2 without them people wud be lost so many big names get praise butwat about prison chaplains and vicars pastors on the front line
James Lornie Elaine you have no need for manly fame, the LORD OUR GOD will accliam you in his time, and when you are ready keep true to your promise give me the work, and I shall do it and that is just what your doing chin up keep your promise and God will keep his OK. xx
23 July at 16:45 · · 1
Cherry Silcox You ARE a BLESSING!!! and a CHAMPION!!!! a GREAT testimony to ALL who see and hear what God is doing thru you!!!!
Elaine Waterfield jim what i meant was that so many big orgaqisations could hekp prax 4 people i haue met but dont want 2 no because i am a nobody i haue alwaxs struggled whth bg keaderrs pastors thex will not euen speak 2 u on fb but god knows and prouides and sends hekp from the sanctuary from many louely penple "" i have got 2 the point where i am defeated. We have done all we can as we build hopes up at schools with girls and giving them pads. Go round community groups but with no money even for light bulbs now we are getting electric or beds for the labour ward its pointless. George gave up his job 2 do this work and i have no real income what we do is from the heart and own pocket. If we had a donor or charity who could give us a lot of money then we could out small loans 2 groups 4 seeds then pay the loan off when crops grow or buy seeds and give gift for school fee. We spent more money on kilamanjaro walk than what was sponsered. So we so want 2 change community but we just need god 2 provide a donor such is the endless need here up and until then we are stranded"
If you have time read more of her story in Kenya , with more photographs.
ACTION (REPEAT)
*DIRECTIf you are in the UK send money to
Elaine Waterfield
sort code 20 49 11
acc no 73486850
* VIA CHRISTIAN SUPPLIES (UK registered charity 1028509)
If outside the UK and you have a Paypal Account (And if you haven't it's really easy to sign up)
1.Log In to Your Account
2.Press The Second Tab - Send Money
3.in email put 07000intune@googlemail.com
4.Put amount in your local money
5. Choose Personal Tab (it's NOT a Purchase) and click on GIFTS. This is a lower rate.
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