Showing posts with label Ian Clayton. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ian Clayton. Show all posts

Wednesday, 9 January 2019

Where we have come and the Way Ahead

Kansas City Shepherds Crusade
My Facebook Post 9/1/2019
We were new Christians who had come out of denominations after being converted and filled with the Spirit. At that time we had the American belief of Tim La Haye that we had to get everybody converted as quickly as possible because Jesus was coming back soon. We held little value in the world system and were concerned mostly with preparing for after death. Then Ern Baxter arrived in the UK under a peculiar, (as in strong) anointing.
He addressed our whole generation stating Biblically why our belief was incomplete.
This in itself is not new. There are two instances when apostles asked believers if they received the Spirit when they believed. And Paul instructed teachers further in the gospel.
In the Lakes messages 1975 Ern likened the new Spiritfilled generation to David and his relationship with the equally Spiritfilled Saul, yet made it clear anointing wasnt everything, and God took David as He did His own Son through testing.
In the Capel Bible Week Ern laid out the nature of Covenantal relationship with God and with one another, forming the apostolic basis right there of thousands of new UK and European churches.
In Dales Bible Week 1976 and Kansas City Shepherds Conference Thy Kingdom Come message
Ern stated unequivocally that God spoke in this way to His Son
Sit at my right hand and RULE until your enemies are made your footsool.
He also compared the Israelites in the wilderness to all charismatics and evangelicals, stating that God's objective was to bring us into the Land, and contrary to erroneous doctrine of the evangelical church, since the Cross the LAND now means the whole globe, which has been bought back through the Lamb's own work.
From 1976- 2000s at least some of our number have been repeating the error of the Catholics and the Jesuits by following a carnal manipulation of the fulfilment, which has resulted in evangelicals who are still rooted in the old after life objective, rightly calling their approach Triumphalist.
I saw from the psalms that God has never changed His approach ever, which unlike Abraham and Hagar, involved His original promise to Abraham and Sarah of a Child of Promise fulfilled by the arm of the Lord supernaturally.
I could see this clearly in Psalm 24,Psalm 110, Psalm 123,Psalms of Ascent especially 134 and Psalm 149.
But what the praying intercessors known as the Sisters of the Candlestick in the 50s saw, and what has been continued by brethren such as Ian Clayton,Mike Parsons, Praying Medic and now many others, is that this very fulfilment is wholly connected to us taking our heavenly role in the Courts of the Lord. Surely this was at least part of the meaning of what was formerly called the Rapture, in our invitation to be caught up, raptured into the clouds of Shekinah, God's own glory.
As I have indicated this week, as well as us rising into our place in the Son of Man , where the government is upon His shoulders, is our earthly walk which I challenged Justin Abraham about pictured in the Tabernacle as the Mercy Seat, the walk of Galatians 2.20. But simultaneous to this Psalm 133 and the last discourse of Jesus in John 17 before death, was that we ARE ONE, and we walk together as such, and are KNOWN as such.
The World Council of Churches is attempting an Ishmael coercive unity under the Pope, but according to the Commandments of the Lord and now the in working work of the Holy Spirit to fulfil it,
both the first commandment of loving the Lord with all we are and have, and loving our brethren with whom we have covenantal rights as ones who dwell and continue in the Light, as the fulfilment of the second commandment, are both relational and real experiences, rather than mere coerced outer formalities which have little reality at all.
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God has been filling in the dots as we come into more Light to be able to understand those dots. With this greater clarity go back and read Maurice Smith's Prophecy in 1977 in one of the  London meetings

One of the places I reposted this was 19th May 2011
Maurice Smith – The Glorious Church - 1977
Friends

Have you noticed the way I have led you so far?First of all I have lifted your eyes and given you a vision. A vision that encompassed the whole church. A vision that speaks in ultimate terms and shows you the finished product from heaven's perspective. Your heart was touched by the thought of a great church 'without spot or wrinkle'. As Ispoke to you in those early days it all seemed so attainable,so within reach. The detail was not apparent to you, only the fact that I had spoken, and you saw clearly that now was the hour for the church to become one people. Now was the hour for barriers to go down, for people to come together,regardless of their upbringing and background.

John 17 -•that they might be one' - seemed to be re-echoing fromevery corner of the world and without any collaboration between the voices. You were convinced God was at work.This was his move and he would accomplish it. (So far so good, but now pause and think).



Have you noticed that the outworking is not as easy as it seemed when you received your revelation? Had I wanted to wave an arm in heaven and accomplish my purposes, I would have done so. But I have set my heart upon a personal relationship with everyone who forms a part of this glorious church. 'My ways are not your ways' still remains true, and whereas men would organise a one-church-movement, and set the wheels in motion to co-ordinate this group with that, I have spoken again into the hearts of men that I am growing the church. As ever I am starting small and consolidatingevery move I make. Every now and then there is an upsurge and an outbreak on a larger scale, which is an encouragement to everyone, but the master-builders know that at such times extravagant things are said and believed, and the idea spreads that we are farther on than we really are.


According to eternal principles I then prune that which has borne fruit that it may bring forth more fruit, andthe master-builders are not token by surprise when thishappens. They know that every step of the way I insist that the personal relationship of God and man is developed, and that this explains many apparent set-backs. I do not want people carried along on the crest of a wave, but people with some realisation of the cost, who nevertheless still desire above all else to be a part of this glorious church which gripped their imagination long ago. Indeed many only get their first glimpse of this holy and unified church in the midst of this upsurge stage of my purposes. (Pause again and think about what I am saying).



Now, because of all I have allowed to work upon your lives,you have a deepening relationship with me. Now you really begin to relate to one another. Not as a people who have in mind some grand successful church movement, but as a peopie captivated by my love and grace toward you; as a people thankful to be included at all in what I have set my heart upon. Now you are prepared to go at my pace, you do not despise the time it takes to form a relationship.You begin to understand that I really was unhurried as I made my friendship with sinners, that I was fully prepared for the disappointments and the rewards of friendship, and so it shall be with you more and more. As the barriers between one and one go down, as friendships are formed,and commitments made, you became more vulnerable to being hurt, and yet also on the verge of great discoveries. The riches that I have placed within every single one of you,becomes the available treasure of each other, and the poverty that has marked my people for so long shall be swallowed up in an abundance of supply.There I go again, re-envisioning you and lifting your eyes to the inevitable goal; but take it steady, be prepared for set-backs, be realistic - all in the true knowledgethat,although in one sense it has to be done stone upon stone, it is later than you think, and that finally everything shall be done suddenly.



For there shall be a great unveiling, a pulling aside of the curtain in a moment of time, a trumpet blast and the body of God forged through many trials and heartaches, joined together by many sinews and main arteries across the world, shall arise and dismay shall strike the hearts of many as they see that which they have scorned so long become the evident dwelling place of God.



In an hour when all is falling down, this church shall stand up like an army with abundant life and flexible structure. The bones shall have real flesh on them, andall the world shall see and marvel at this glorious church without spot or wrinkle, that first captivated the hearts of many of you so long ago.

this was a Prophecy through Maurice Smith 7 January 1977 at the Friends MeetingHouse, London

Tuesday, 22 August 2017

Yes It's time to go Beyond


Well you can't help be stirred by present politics in the media. It's like the whole of the bipartisan choice system, erroneously called democracy, is creaking and groaning under its own old age.
And in direct parallel, since all things are parallel, we have come to the end of pyramid church. Both systems, which in the Spirit are exactly the same under close Xray....now have one of those Diversion signs that says," you cannot cross beyond this point."
Here's the thing I feel God has slipped into my insides.
Corporately speaking the whole of history has NOT MOVED ON from the days of Moses going up the Mountain.
i will repeat that.
Essentially NOTHING has changed in the Spirit on a corporate level since Moses asked "who will follow me into God's Presence up in the Mountain?" and absolutely everybody stayed down below.
Ever since then we have remained below.
We have even caught glimpses of how things should be....namely the greeks seeing democracy....and
staying below, we have tried to shoehorn it into planet earth.
But the "glass slipper" won't fit ugly sisters.
Back up a little bit.
Jerusalem's gates. They all have meaning. Unknown to most of the earth's citizens we have been trekking round Jerusalem's Gates.
We now come to the 10th Gate.
The Gate announced consciously or not by people like Lance Wallnau and Ian Clayton and Justin Abraham.
The 10th Gate is the Gate of Miphkad.
Miphkad means judgment.
FORMERLY INHABITED BY ELDERS OF ISRAEL.
THEY HAD A BRIEF THREE THOUSAND YEAR ABBERATION.
THEY CHOSE KINGS INSTEAD.
MEANWHILE THE TRIBE OF DAN INVENTED GREECE, THEN DEMOCRACY. GOD CALLS THEM THE SNAKE IN THE WAY.
Somewhere in the middle of this time period....well make that , beginning 1215, then much more so 1600s onward....
KINGS started to lose their power to banking systems....
But have no mistake about it.....
The elders of Israel socalled (as in the protocols) and also the Jesuits.....which actually contain some of the same personnages.....
HAVE BEEN RULING OUR EARTH EVER SINCE.
In churches we have a mixture. We have a Pyramid Vicar or Pyramid priest or pyramid pastor, but we also have boards of elders, and denominational infrastructure.
Kind of 2 HOUSES battling out policy
Keeping a check on the other....
Remember this key principle....
Until the sons are mature God never gives over the world to anarchy.....He preserves a scaffolding until the Building has come
He instals a Master to lead us to Christ....
He instals NOT anarchy but a rule of outer LAW until the inner law has arrived.
Well that time has now come.
YOU SEE CONTINGENT UPON CHANGING THE WORLD SYSTEM is not Lance Wallnau's ideas of doing 7 mountain copies of what the Freemasons have already accomplished.....
CONTINGENT UPON ANY ADVANCE from this point....
Is US CHANGING SOMETHING from the days of Moses.
We have to repent of our Zeus mentality....
Our comic book hero ideas
Our gods
Our " Hey you go up the mountain for us"
"You face the blackness and the thunderstorms surrounding God's Presence"
WE HAVE TO RISE IN THE SPIRIT.
WE HAVE TO BE BORN AGAIN AND BAPTISED IN THE SPIRIT AND BE USING OUR GIFTS.
WE HAVE TO RISE INTO HEAVENS COURTS AND ACCEPT OUR RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING ACTUAL KINGS AND PRIESTS.....A WHOLE RACE OF THEM.
Greater things shall you do because I go to the Father
Whatsoever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven
Whatsoever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven
Whatever you ask IN MY NAME.......shall be done for you.
Essentially asking a pastor to rule over you, and that is not anywhere in the Bible....apart from obeying instructions to GET TO KNOW THE LORD HIMSELF.....thats all a pastor is....
But enthroning a pastor over a local body of Christ is nowhere to be found in the Bible....
And that whole spirit that drives that is the same spirit of 3- 4000 years ago of refusing to go up into the mountain ourselves and pushing Moses up there......" to be our spokesman"...
that is the spirit which maintains the current "order " in churches, and which drives the Old Testament Tithe paying mentality.
Giving is a lot more fluid and unspecified in the New Covenant.
Well it IS SPECIFIED....right here and everything comes out of it
Romans 12. 1
Therefore ....(ie because of all the teachings from Romans 1 through 11)
I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, [a]acceptable to God, which is your [b]spiritual service of worship. 2 And do not be conformed to this [c]world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may [d]prove what the will of God is, that which is good and [e]acceptable and perfect.
You are NOLONGER to be LEFTBRAIN LOCKED
it is up to you through the work of the Holy Spirit within you
to be working on Proverbs 3.5.7
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not rely on your insight, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths.
The reason our paths have not substantially changed...
ie we have the same basic coarse management of our daily affairs, allbeit through ostensible bipartisan politics....
Trump v Clinton etc etc
is because we have not set our minds on the Spirit as Paul commanded
we are still leftbrain locked and trusting our own insight implicitly
and not obeying anything to do with Romans 12 .1 and 2
so essentially our churches are run the same as ever
and our natural daily lives are run the same as ever.
It's a change of consciousness we need. Galatians 2.20 consciousness.

Sunday, 15 September 2013

Ian Clayton at the Well 2013


I have been listening to Ian Clayton and Joann McFadden.If you don't get into Joann, and BTW it ISN'T NEW AGE...
well maybe it's God's Old AGE....

Try Ian.You have to freeze your charismatic brain-
freeze your idea of what a really spiritual person
may sound like,
because neither Ian, Norman Grubb, and many others I'm
sure don't ....

Now Ian says he isn't an engineer, but to me he certainly probes like one.
Listen, I'm a piano tuner. The ONLY sort of person that "gets in my space"
as a tuner is an engineer. They don't  have any empathy as to how you may
feel about them invading your space, and you forgive them after a while
because you know they can't help it. They are the only breed that have
to know how a piano works when it has its front off. Others are mildly interested,
but engineers stretch right across you and then finger bits of delicate piano
action that you wouldn't let just any normal human being handle. But you
are aware with engineers that they of all people could probably mend
those same parts, if they had to, without having to be professionally trained.

If you have come into things through years of waiting on God,
meditation on God's Word, travelling miles if not across whole countries
to be among thirdlevellers...then had to, or felt you had to talk
in hushed tones because like John in John's gospel you only had words
like Light, Love, Unity, Water, Fountains, as a means of explaining,
and most folk haven't a clue about what you mean by all that....
Well this Ian (engineer type) comes along and talks about the deepest
things in the universe and beyond as though they are widgets on the side
panel of some steam locomotive. He just doesn't care. And somehow
he gets people to listen to him, precisely because he  doesn't care
and has so many quantum physics examples, financial examples,business
examples as cross-correlations....that even the most ardent charismatic
must surely yield and say....Oh...I see...that's just how it is.
Whereas some of us feel that we have been bashing our head against a brick wall
for decades.

Much of what Ian says correlates directly with Daniel Yordy's latest posts
in a series "Through Eyes of Fire", which I intend to publish as a series
on here.


Tuesday, 18 September 2012

Courts and Government of Heaven (Ian Clayton)

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