Showing posts with label the freefall of faith. Show all posts
Showing posts with label the freefall of faith. Show all posts

Wednesday, 1 July 2026

OY ,Us Marks and Johns have a job to do

 





The Bible is about being born again from above and receiving the Holy Spirit. But already in the natural two quartiles are born quite naturally manifesting  two spontaneous attributes of the Kingdom.

The prophetic realm cuts right across the social realm . There is perhaps no more alarming story than 1 Kings 13. The disobedient prophet. Make that TWO!!!!!

But here from Facebook is the post from this morning written 1st July 2026
The St John quartile , Meyers Briggs INFJ ,Surrounded by Idiots book yellow ,
Leviticus 23:40 Willow Tree , melancolic ( of the choleric sanguine pragmatic group) the Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10, Revelation 4 Eagle face .......

Or ADHD weirdo if we are reading Tavistock institute outward appearances tosh .

If you suspect yourself a truther mix or a pure single focus fourth quartile like St John in our Bibles then we have a job to do .

The Mark quartile and John quartiles are the first to model the sufferings that go with spontaneous living in a draco pyramid culture.

Ask my Mum about politics as a Mark Luke quartile and she knew it was ridiculous . As well as the artificial pecking order layers of class and money corporation measurement .

So this is way before we get to Yes I Am by Norman Grubb and his phrase " the Freefall of faith ".

So Marks curate the realm of love which has galvanising advantages .
We John types curate truth which is more on the side of the Jesus who lays the axe to the root and phrases like ' I dont come to bring peace but a sword ' . This is all hugely offensive to Mark types.

For current examples
Black Lives Matter seems so good to Mark Types
Johns discern the Communist device of critical race theory . It's to break sovereignty .

Same with borders.
Marks just have an open door policy . Its how they are built . But its one of the last adjustments that happen in the last chapter of Song of Songs with the ' little sister '.

Closing doors isnt right .
Having open doors isnt right.
The due process of law and vetting entrants is a more secure way .

USA gives itself away having Soros control it like a puppet letting in all kinds of foreigners including a sleeper army while locking up an evangelist ministering the gospel and gifts of the Spirit for 16months ( Torben Sondergaard ) and USA doing absolutely nothing.
Same with Wilfrid Wong in Fosse Way prison UK .
A former solicitor turned activist against UK missing and abused children of the Satanist cabal system .


Tuesday, 10 January 2017

Brokenness II



If you are used to the traditional stuff on brokenness you will find this continuation of the study quite shocking. 

But what is it you are looking for?  To be a grand master on the writings of Church Fathers who only got so far, or do you want the truth of God inside your very being?

Do you want to conform to all the seminaries, and consequently now all the Jesuit and esoteric and Kaballist groups that have stolen every Word of God previously written from out of the sanctuary, and then cobbled together great Luciferian treatise (s) on the difference between :

The Knowledge of Good and Evil

and

The Tree of Life?

Or do you want that simple walk in Jesus Christ spontaneously living your life in an authentic and unique way that is God "causing you to walk in the steps that He prepared beforehand"?
IN  OTHER WORDS THE REAL THING?


Perhaps you should pause right there, because of John 7
17 If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. 18 He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who is seeking the glory of the One who sent Him, He is true, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.


Put that the other way round.   If you are reading this for any personal agenda.  Material to preach from, to write books from, to earn tithes from.  Some attemot at peering over the hedge of God's Kingdom, just as the Jesuits operate, then you shall not "get this" teaching.

Jesus says I am the Door.  The thief enters round the back?

Where is round the back?  It is in the leftbrain.  The leftbrain tries to reason up to the life of God.
The doorway to God in you is in your spirit.  The leftbrain is a thief. it does not want personal involvement with Christ, because it knows instinctively that it's entire "Control Bibble" will be ripped open and shown to be the total scam that it is.

There is no selfpowered soul, or selfpowered mind.

We live from Life itself, which is either now a derived life source, via our Adamic inheritance, of "fake independence" which is really the Satan spirit operating and masquerading as us....

OR we come fully into the LIGHT
the SINGLE AGAPE EYE of God and see He is the sole source of everything....

actually, theologically speaking of Satan's life too.   Satan twists God's own empowering life round from being self for others, to a form that is self for self....but actually the power, the drive still comes from the sole Source of the Universe.   (Take this more slowly here by reading Yes I Am by Norman Grubb)




The OLD COVENANT

I take issue with those of Facebook and in modern studies who claim the Old Covenant is not accurate.
Shellfish can still easily kill you.
And bacteria can still hide in the folds of the skin of the penis to bring about longterm damage in a male or their spouse, unless cleanliness is taken seriously. Circumcision was not only a sign, it was also a prevention.

If you know how the Holy Spirit moves in meetings of Christian believers you can see all the same hallmarks on all the scriptures we use.  The same dealings with men and women. The same patterns in how the Holy Spirit introduces people to the ways and the character of God.

Yet many times on this blog I have pointed out how God has scratched His head to know how to present Spirit truth before a people was truly able to be caught up in the Spirit, as was made available after Jesus death , resurrection and pouring out the Holy Spirit as He had promised.

You have the Two Goats conundrum....now in the Spirit, there was only need for One Jesus....but this was the old Covenant

In Ezekiel 47 you have Ezekiel presenting the idea of the River of God's Spirit coming from the Throne of God in such a way as a "person brought up in separation" since Genesis 3 can understand it.

In actual Spirit fact the prophecy is nonsense, as is a lot of charismatic prophecy today.
THERE IS SIMPLY NOTHING ELSE THAN GOD'S RIVER. HE IS THE SOLE SOURCE OF LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!!

THERE REALLY ISN'T....NOT IN SPIRIT TERMS.....SUCH A THING AS THE INDEPENDENT SELF IN GENESIS 3.   THIS WAS A LIE FROM START UNTIL TODAY'S DATE....

this is why the gospel calls all men everywhere to repentance....

Not because God thinks it might be nice to have some friends and He is lonely....

It's because there is no such thing as secular life
there is no such thing as living independently as gods.....it just doesn't exist
and if anybody tries it....proverbs chapter 1 tells you what happens

Basically your life crashes !!!!!!

So YES.....there is an Old Covenant version of brokenness
which featured a real encounter between God/the Angel   and Jacob wrestling until Dawn....

Or King David's experiences  AFTER being anointed with oil as King in his youth....and yes I do connect with this man !!!!!!

Brokenness, like today to a certain extent, is God using real life experiences to form a godly character....
OR.....perhaps, like a wood sculptor to strip off the superfluous to leave the authentic creation as God always intended.

Watchman Nee was writing in transitional days, and he used the phrase an enlarged soul.
He said this to describe the way our soul life is now not only God going on....it is enlarged.

If we are going to use that picture we must imagine a "useless expansion" of quirky growth in the way that cancer cells utterly distort our bodies with tumerous outgrowths that end by killing us.

In this way, you would think of us taking up our Cross to see these "falsely enlarged bits of tumerous Adamic outgrowth die."


EXCEPT FOR THIS.

Brokenness in the New Covenant is something different.

Since before the Creation the Word always existed....long before Satan even rebelled, or was even created.  The Word who became manifest in human form as Jesus Christ was always going to be the Cornerstone of the Temple, the Living Temple of  God indwelt ones.
As we saw with Adam, it was always going to be a CHOICE to put on the Tree of Life,
to want to connect with God...

God has always wanted a Bride, a Counterpart like Himself, that chooses to give and receive love, to enter into Union with Himself.

Sin mightily "upped the ante" so that at one level we live in a precarious time space world where we don't know for sure that  when "Christ returns He shall find faith in the Earth". The jeapardy is probably there precisely to avoid Calvinists and Preterists folding their arms, buying pina coladas and sitting on deckchairs waiting for God's bus to arrive.

We walk in godly fear. The Son of Man was heard for His godly fear, His cries of supplication, which always seems weird in first and secondlevel Christian situations....because thinking in terms of separation.....Jesus down here who is nevertheless Christ, and God up there....

It seems weird that God the Man in praying to God the Father....

But that is actually one of the ways we have to change our thinking about brokenness.
Ps 40
waited [a]patiently for the Lord;

And He inclined to me and heard my cry.
He brought me up out of the pit of destruction, out of the [b]miry clay,
And He set my feet upon a rock making my footsteps firm.
He put a new song in my mouth, a song of praise to our God;
Many will see and fear
And will trust in the Lord.

Now we DO know Jesus as Saviour and Redeemer
But in Union like Jesus we now enter into something mindbendingly awesome, as is now being revealed in our natural sciences.....

THE QUANTUM WORLD

Brokenness is now a STATE.   It is true we come in through the Blood of Jesus our Saviour, but He sweeps us up onto a Rock that is higher than I.

He sweeps us up to a totally new ontological reality. That of being a co LIVING STONE in His Temple, in His purposes.

Jesus crying out loud cries was this new reality we too have been put in.
Intercession.
Bringing things forth by the power of the Spirit.
How does it work????

Romans 8 shows us how it works.
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the [j]saints according to the will of God.

During the time of the Cross "it appeared" that God had abandoned Jesus at the Cross.
Jesus cried out "My God why have you forsaken Me?"
Psalm 22 prophecies this experience.

In reality, that is in this true realm of Spirit.....GOD was instead INSIDE the forsakenness....RECONCILING THE WORLD TO HIMSELF.

THIS is intercession.

Jesus describes it  to King David this way in Psalm 40
Sacrifice and meal offering You have not desired;
My ears You have [e]opened;
Burnt offering and sin offering You have not required.
Then I said, “Behold, I come;
In the scroll of the book it is [f]written of me.
I delight to do Your will, O my God;
Your Law is within my heart.”
The author to the Hebrews seems to quote from an earlier text than the Masoretic text and quotes all this

Sacrifice and offering You have not desired,
But a body You have prepared for Me;
In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have taken no pleasure.
Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come
(In the scroll of the book it is written of Me)
To do Your will, O God.’”

After saying above, “Sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have not desired, nor have You taken pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the Law), then He [d]said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will.” He takes away the first in order to establish the second.

St Paul writes in the same fashion in Romans 12. 1-2

Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, [a]acceptable to God, which is your [b]spiritual service of worship. 2 And do not be conformed to this [c]world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may [d]prove what the will of God is, that which is good and [e]acceptable and perfect.

Why therefore???
on account of all the other tremendous teachings f Romans 1 to 11 being so already....these are the "mercies" the "grace tools" that make everything in Romans 12: 1-2 work.

Back to Romans 8

For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, [i]in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.

So yes Jesus was making loud groaning noises, as a Son....
To enter into Union with God is to enter immediately into the operations He is performing right now...
revealed by the Spirit.....sometimes initially just groans too deep for words, very similar to a woman in labour.

Hod has desired BODIES to bring forth His Word
His purposes and plans.

This is the subtle difference between the "orphan idea" of worship
the orphan idea of brokenness

and the LIVING THING that Jesus was engaged in when He lived His life here, and that He now catches up His whole Body in by the Spirit to complete His work of raising a mature man.

Like the key phrase in Ephesians 4 which says....when each part is working properly....
the "brokenness" of Romans 12 and a yielded life has more to do with our knowledge of the mercies of God...if we don't know what God has done we can mope and groan and grouse and grovel as much as we like....this isn't brokenness...this is religion...this is orphanhood.


The REAL THING is where people have been enlightened according to these sorts of phrases in Ephesians 1

15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and [u]your love for all the [v]saints, 16 do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers;17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the [w]knowledge of Him. 18 I pray that the eyes of your heart [x]may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the [y]saints, 19 and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might 20 which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

We can only RISK giving our bodies to God to manifest through when we have experienced some sessions of Him coming through us...
maybe in times of need
maybe in the baptism in the Spirit
maybe in our church life together...

then also based on what we know inwardly and what has been revealed to our inner eyes...

then we are going to feel like taking more of a risk...because we see inwardly it isn't a risk......

But it is these sort of "Freefallers" that God is looking for Romans 12.1-2 who will PROVE what the will of God is....Namely to bring forth His Kingdom His Word made manifest through physical forms...you and me...the church...

so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places.

Back to the flower:
The flower is perhaps a better representation of our brokenness...

it is totally intact now
it may or may not be weak, but there is nothing in it that shouldn't be there
just as it is it is manifesting the glory of God
it is not being religious and pinning a christian badge to it
it is not trying to "do anything " Christian
It is living exactly as it was meant and purposed

But we are in another reality...we are in the Temple of the Lord.
We are the Body of the Living Christ on earth.
Now as Paul says in Corinthians
I can't address you as mature...one says he is of Peter, one of Apollos and one of Paul

Also (Chapter 12) what you are doing is just sticking together in cliques
if someone is an eye they are saying to the leg, because you are not an eye I have no need of you.

This is the state of the immature church. In reality all churches, because there are no churches on earth yet that have Father level people as groups of elders flowing together in this "brokenness"...or "Christ cornerstone Life " that I have described. There are ones and twos who move individually as did Ed Miller, Corrie Ten Boom, Pastor Wurmbrand...but not inside local churches in geographical areas and recognised as such by local communities.

We only have zero, first and secondlevellers who are caught up in their "LEG" groups or "Arm groups " or "Eye groups".

FINALLYto summarise and bash the nail further in.

Because Genesis 3 was always a lie.
Because there really only ever was one source of life in the Universe.
Because UNITY is a fact, as real in our bodies own homeostasis, as it is actually in the Body Of Christ
Because there is only one faith one Lord one baptism...
Because we see with a single eye God going on in His Universe to bring about the completion of all His plans through His Son...

I will flow with every other person walking in this "brokenness"
or Just Christ as me ness....no more no less....no additions no subtractions to whatever Jesus Christ is doing in us and through us now.

Now we had an introduction to this in Spirit led meetings.
As we have received Jesus we were to walk in Him....and the first ways we did this was practicing "gathering in His Name" in meetings...
and we have to guard this Unity of the Spirit UNTIL we come into the unity of the faith.

But you can't come into total unity while each individual has squinty eyes
or not a single eye (in internal terms)
David said
OK Lord...I'll tell you what....UNITE MY HEART TO FEAR THE LORD. PSALM 86.11

We have whole churches of squinty eyed people whose inner eyes are focussed all over the place....there is no way we can even get one united church having the shambolic level of Light we have been operating in so far.

In Revelation 12 it says about the true church....a woman with a face shining like the sun, with the moon under her feet.

At the moment thirdlevel living is unknown
every single church member across the face of the whole earth still thinks "separation existence is a valid way to live and operate"....and that living this MOON or "reflected" way of life, where we never actually fuse with God the Father properly....and take on His SUN Life...His Original direct Source Life flow....

continuing in this fashion makes "Jesus is coming soon " a laughing stock.
The devil hears our words but sees our MOON Masques like some Anonymous Venetian Ball....

What He is scared of is being chased off the Earth by a woman with the Face as the Sun.










Sunday, 10 April 2016

Tired of Being for Others? By Norman Grubb and Where I am at by Tony Maden

Daily Thoughts


http://christasus.podbean.com/e/daily-thoughts-tired-of-being-for-others/   contains audio version
Now the danger arises of us thinking that we must rush about being not for ourselves but for others. By no means. Just go on being yourself and don't give a thought about being for others. Just run your own life, accept yourself, be yourself, love yourself! Appreciate that you are a special person, specially gifted by God. For what? That's not your business. Don't try and run His business! Get on with your daily occupations and putting all your heart into them. But of course, there's a catch in that. You are not really yourself, but Christ in you, Christ the real you. And He is for others and He knows exactly how He will reach others by you in your special life's situation and with your special equipment, of which you may not even be conscious, and probably good that you are not! If you try to fuss around being something for others, for your neighbors, for good works in your church, your town or out to the world, you may be so occupied in the wrong direction that He will have to do some more work on you to get you where He really wants you!

He is love in us, other-love, so you just can't help yourself. Without any kind of human effort, you just find yourself drawn into maybe love-contacts with naturally unpleasant neighbors; you find that folks somehow get in touch with you, because you are free from fussing about your affairs or theirs, just free to love, not to condemn or judge or try to change them, and one or another will be coming to you and pouring out their burdens. But when folks do find that you are available, you have to beware against being back under the law. The Spirit is original in each of us and He will get His original plan into action by you in some way which frees you from man-pleasing. So, we are back on the usual paradox: do nothing which stems from self-effort. But in being a do-nothing, you will actually be a do-everything, because the Real Doer whose aim is to get the world back to Himself will surely be busy by you in His own way and time. Yet watch even there when we say "He will be busy by you," because times will come when you will appear to be useless on the shelf, as if God has forgotten you (how crazy can we be!), and the only word left which can suit you is, "Be still and know that I am God." Very well, then, be still; and if God wants to be lazy in you, let Him be!

Excerpt taken from Who Am I? by Norman Grubb

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NB Tony has been enthusing about all the different centres of teaching /training/sharing.....about moving in the gifts and the supernatural in evangelism combined with the teachings about no independent self and Christ now being our sole Life.


Dear Sweet Sue (Maden,)
I know i've been like a firehose for a while, and its overwhelming to you to have to listen to me talk about Jesus and His ways through me in every minute detail, however I hear the Spirit remember this post to me from last year.
To some with whom we used to walk, I may seem to have gone back from fatherhood to young man stage, however, I've gone back from the security of the other-lover within to without for a season or two of fishing in the waters awash with children and young men that equip the saints, and of course to be fisher of men for the lost, as Christ did - as He is so are we in this world.
The Spirit in me wants to bring all his children into the fullness or who they really are, to know and walk out their true identity without having to go through the pain of the 43 years of Chris Welch and so many others frustrated when they read the scriptures and see the box doing religion, and tradition, not abundant life in Christ alone.
So I see The Last Reformation, The Pioneer School blended with Royal Family International University Identity teaching 'back to basics' and all of Norman Grubbs (http://normangrubb.com) last intercession poured out through http://christasus.com Linda Bunting, Harriet Warren and DeeDee Winter blended together to make it easier and quicker for people to grasp the truth that we've held dear in our hearts for many years.
I love you,
Tony xox

Wednesday, 24 February 2016

How Faith and Trust are different

FAITH

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Without going crazy here about three stages of growing up in God....just be aware of the strange way this sentence is written.
Faith does not come by hearing the Word of God.
Hearing comes by access to the Word of God.
Once you have the hearing you can hear DIRECT what Christ is saying, then you have His own faith for doing the wacky things of God.
Basically the whoooooooole Jewish stage was the first bit......developing the Spirit hearing.
We may think Jews were hard of hearing.....but God chose Israel because they were the MOST LIKELY to be able to hear anything at all. Jews had already had over a thousand years of Word. So when the WORD on legs arrived....they at least had a head start, and indeed SOME heard.
Jesus said all the time....He who has an ear to hear......
Preachers get discouraged. It's easy to think that the Bible is just leftbrain information, and you have preached the instructions from the Bible so why aren't people doing it.
Well the Bible isn't leftbrain. On the surface some of it is.....but every page of that book is actually RUACH. Ruach is breath-based speech. Access to breath-based speech creates spiritual ears and spiritual hearing....but it is a process.
NOBODY'S DOING NUFFINK until their spiritual ears are created. Once they have "hearing" actually things progress quite quickly.
Basically all churches can be broken down into "congregations" which are still developing spiritual hearing......and those in which spiritual hearing is already operating and manifesting as wacky manifestations of God turning up!!!!!
The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. So one aspect of this RUACH based book is its testimony awakens the same spirit necessary to do the same wackinesses amongst us now.
If you read about healings and miracles they engender the "hearing" to see the same type of thing.




TRUST

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and don't rely on your insight
In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths.
So if faith is about "saying the done deal of God".....why....because you have actually heard it direct from Christ Himself.....so for you it's the most natural thing in the world and a done deal.....trust is something a bit different.
I say by faith what I heard God speak to me in 1988 in Emsworth in the midst of a lively secondlevel church, a charismatic church....
"Chris, there is a whole other level yet."
I am still surprised others don't see this.....but then they haven't heard God directly say that so it's understandable. They have probably heard tons of other things which I don't feel natural at all about....the faith comes once we have ability to hear....hearing Christ Himself saying something. If we haven't heard it.....just hearing somebody blabbing about it doesn't mean we have faith for it....it has to be quickened.
So what's trust about?
Trust is slightly different. Trust is the gateway to this new WALK....the Freefall of faith that Norman Grubb writes about.
Trust means I begin dismantling myself from the awful Genesis 3 condition of always having to be in control!!!! (The reality is quite quite opposite by the way). Trust allows me to lay all that orphan hearted action down.....those actions that are coming from a feeling of desperation and separation.....
and at last honoring that God is LIFE
That LIFE has a flow....and that life's wellspring is in my heart not in my computer brain, nor my surface feelings.
Maturity indeed is described as
training my senses in righteousness....able to discern (the spirit of good from the spirit of evil).
Trust is letting God be God.
Trust is NOT filling the gaps that WE THINK have to be filled with
more prayers
more fasting
more giving
more witnessing
more working
more leisure....
and just entering into the freefall of faith that says
RIGHT NOW
HOWEVER IT LOOKS APPEARANCE WISE
THIS Chris Welch version of Jesus Christ in the flesh (Galatians 2.20) is believing and acknowledging God to be real, and to show what is next!!!!!!
It's fuzzier than faith.....and that is a huge reason why charismatics despise those embarking on the thirdlevel.
They are immature and think in terms of doing, doing doing....to appease that less than good God and angry taskmaster in the Sky.
Here's the rub....
After months and years of "appearing to do nothing"....when in reality you are learning the Father's pace.....taking Jesus yoke upon you......Actually when you do enter a church.....or are presented with a situation....years of the Spirit growing this trust in you actually gives you immense authority.
Now Jesus own brothers never saw a thing......UNTIL LATER...presumably the Cross and afterwards....but in the gospels his own brothers did not believe in Him at all. The God of the Universe!!!!! How's that????
Well unfortunately the life of God is just like the Red Arrows shopping in Sainsburys or Wallmart.....
you would never know.
And until you see those same Red Arrows dashing and swooping in their planes....you are not going to know.
And this folks.....is a lot of the THIRD LEVEL.....absolutely unseen.
BUT, says Paul.....there ARE days of visitation. And boy....you'd better have your seatbelts on!!!!! Because thirdlevellers under the anointing are something else.
On the good side, like Peter and John, they can brush past a man asking for alms....and he gets legs!!!!! (Old joke)
On the bad side....you can be telling a lie to the Holy Spirit and you and your missus are wiped out instantly in the Presence of a holy God.
Faith is the protocol by which things manifest.
Trust is the protocol by which we glide into the Freefall of Faith to learn to be on location for God on planet earth!!!