Elephants in Rooms

 

Elephants in rooms .
 Brits are told not to discuss religion or politics . .....Realised they are the same . Hence psalm 2.

 The secondary reason is that the left , right political divide has no answer ,in the same way male or female has no answer or young and old has no answer .

Sorry to get deep but that's why the two loaves of bread are waved in the middling transition realm of the middle Feast and the middle place in God's House . It's why there are two Spiritfilled houses of God on Hayling Hampshire UK. It's why God Channel can't get it together with Revelation Channel . It's why thousands of baptised in the Spirit people from the charismatic move and the Jesus Move split into two streams in 1976.

We manifest Romans 6 or we don't. 

Nobody can hide what they inwardly believe .
There is NO ANSWER to the Body of Christ divisions until they can see the Head . Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God . Until then ,among the Holy Spirit chasers there's the candlestick people and the Table of ShewBread people . Even in Muslims there are the more mystical dancing Sufis, and Sunnis . In China are the Falun Gong .

There are dancers and there are readers .
Eventually we get settled in the One . The Luciferian idea is that he be the One and we can't buy or sell unless we submit to him . Well that's not a great way of wooing a whole population .Love me or you can't eat and survive !

We manifest Romans 6 or we don't. 

 Others say , well that's what Christianity says . 

No . God is more like the Good Samaritan who crosses boundaries to us in our broken state , binds us up and takes us to hospital and pays the bill . Our state is because of the Satan hookup . And even that was allowed to take place so we would learn secondhand what Satan learned or isn't learning firsthand ...... That there's nothing outside of God's life . The results are truly deadly . 

God has come like a Good Samaritan from another place to provide treatment if we are interested . This way He knows He's spending eternity with people that want Him and also , unlike the third of fallen angels , have had a taste of the alternative , and now think a permanent decision to the wrath state .....NO THANKS ...SELF FOR SELF DOES NOT WORK.

Word As Seed

 First the Video Message followed by a poem really saying the same thing poetically .

The poem is by my friend John Stevens and originated  here on his blog .

The poem Flowers in full below todays  Word as Seed message .

Flowers

What is a Christian?Poetry

1 Feb

You stand there with half-flowers
Hidden behind your back
One eye glistening, the other
Flooded with immeasurable joy

Whilst I fuss and chatter
Battering you with
Requests I think you’d
Like to grant me

Exhausted by your silence
Eventually
After decades
I stop talking

And look up
And see your glistening eye
And the other, an ocean
For me to swim in

Only then can you surprise me,
A man, with flowers, half-flowers
Dressed in colours I’d never seen
Some already gone to seed

You hold them out to me
Silent me. Before I take them
I close my eyes and bask
In scents from another world

Then, I take the flowers
And wonder about the seeds?
And finally, I know
What lies there, behind your eyes

Church Life in the New Melchizedek order

Originally posted in a series on Facebook

http://080808onnowto.blogspot.co.uk/…/body-of-christ-has-ap…
is a brief study on how the Church has tons of Apps.
There are Apps listed in the Bible from Holy Spirit Gifts, ministries, and fruit, but just like the human body the variety and breadth is absolutely stunning.
I mean quite apart from natural gifting which is quite stunning., the spiritual abilities people have are amazing. But you will never know unless you travel widely.
Now gifts and talents are absolutely matter of fact to those who can do them.
I can lift a piano, put it on a trolley, get it into my trailer and drive it anywhere singlehandedly, although I prefer to have another person the other end of the piano.
i can restring a piano completely , refinish the frame and repin, so that you would think it just came out of the factory. All of us can do some amazing things which for onlookers seem crazy.
But spiritually there are people who can tell you sickness diagnoses by passing their hand over you...or even looking at you and seeing spirits responsible for the diseases.There are people that can pray for backs, but nothing else. There are people who specialise in other parts. There are people who can do matchmaking. There are people who can do jobhunting. There are people for whom it is normal to get all your children knowing the Lord,fully baptised in the Spirit and also recognising their own ministries.....while others of us still struggle with unbelieving families. That's the thing....there are churches like Bill Johnson's that have an atmosphere for healing...but it took 23 years!!!! Other churches deal naturally in the area of deliverance. Others intercession for amazingly big things. More and more are experiencing instantly being transferred to other regions. We have natural lives in which we learn and grow, but our actual ambassorship, our priesthood is in a totally different eternal realm. As God grants we are absolutely without limitation in this realm. It is NOT provided for our engrandizement, it is granted for the establishing of the supernatural Kingdom of God on earth.
So tell yourself right now.....God's STUFF is not about you and what you regard as "your little life"...this is about the new Priesthood Jesus established as He was anointed and came out of the Jordan. As well as teaching preaching and exercising authority over Israel, He as the Cornerstone had the Preeminent role of exercising His Priesthood even to being abused unto death. Our own little lives truly pale into insignificance as we begin to take seriously our new priesthood roles. All angels are put at the disposal of this new Priesthood. Gazillions of saints surround us and just continue their earthly ministries from before but in heaven.
Jesus could have thought....I am just a carpenter from a little Crossroads town called Nazareth.
We are NOT "just a" anything. We were made "specifically"....for commissioning with all the high powered back up that ambassadorship provides.We operate in Psalm 123, in the Melchizedek order. The HIGH KING who opens seals that nobody can shut, enacts those seals through OUR ambassadorship. Whatsoever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven....the same with loosing.....
When Paul says we hasten the Day of the Lord....you'd better believe it.
We of ourselves don't hasten nothing!!!! But our ambassadorial and priestly role, when properly excercised is of a totally different order of function.. It is more fully described in Psalm 149....this is GLORY for His faithful ones.

So the operation we have is huge,but is nothing less than the installation of the spiritual Kingdom of God on planet earth. It can only be done by a Melchisedek priesthood as has been adequately shown by the failure of every other kind of priesthood and Move of God. Yet this is mirrored every single.second by Melchisedek particles which are the real elements which keep every atom in the universe sustained and running. In this way we see there is no real join between that which we consider spiritual and that which we consider.natural. It comes.down to our seeing of it. The KNOWLEDGE of the glory of the Lord.shall cover the earth as the waters cover the sea.
The manifestation of the Melchisedek priesthood coincides with the arrival of a brand new form of.Satan's kingdom......feet of clay mixed with iron. Up until now we knew we were being ruled by Napoleon or Hitler, this last form is by stealth, clay being the human Have a Nice Day front pioneered in America. It also speaks of transhumanism where increasingly less human is in the beings that surround and rule you. Far from there being no.demons as Facebook people believe, they are actually close to their original Genesis 6 goal of.breaking through the human barriers and ruling the earth as perfect hybrids.....eventually doing without man altogether. Nephilim. It is difficult to express how.much they hate us , presumably because we were given the rule of this planet, that we are made of clay in a very low.density environment but that God has installed in us His own raw power and Presence which actually far exceeds theirs. The devils whole operation is to lie kill and steal. To lie about everything God has said. Did God say? To kill....since the spirit they move in brought death and to usurp gain steal all that has been promised and freely given to the sons of men. Selah....

It's a bit weird looking back on the tabernacle of Moses but that is useful here. This is why it is weird. If you have come straight out of the world.system or if you have come out of present religion no matter....you won't know a thing about Moses Tabernacle. They don't teach it on telly nor in church. The great irony is from Catholicism down to the most ardent new church there has been this return to Judaism and the Old Covenant way of.doing things with one man doing most of the work. Rob Rufus for.example. Just a super spirit filled vicar who stands at the front....much more fun than a rabbi in a synagogue....but actually much the same.
Yet this is why it is weird....there will.be no Tabernacle teaching.
So saints....is the Tabernacle teaching relevant in the New Covenant?
The Tabernacle of.Moses is a poor copy of the Melchizedek Order....but the blueprint is 100% accurate. The book of Hebrews which barely meant anything in the 70s and was only taught very sparingly.....is really starting to lift off the page with the next generation. A 20 year old.worshipleader started talking to me about the Melchisedek Order at a tuning 2 years ago. Wow. Something is going on...... In my 43 years in Christ I was the only person talking about this. Well, Sam Fife did.
So let's sum up the weirdness.
Unless you are in the raw unmitigating version of Jesus Christ rolling out His Jeremiah 31 NEW Covenant.....you will be in some church that has reverted back in many ways to a now.dead Old Covenant Judaism......but you won't realise because they themselves never teach the Tabernacle for.you to.compare it.
Secondly Moses.Tabernacle at the time wasn't a dead thing. It was given as revelation in Face to face intimacy with God up the Mountain. It is a graphic illustrative map of what Moses saw in the Spirit as He saw heaven. So as you get caught up in the Spirit more and more in God.....like.King David found....The more the Tabernacle layout will mean to you in the Spirit.

What is so extraordinary about the Melchizedek order of priesthood that Jesus was raising? Well have a look at it in the gospels!!!
What was extraordinary was it was conducted in real time. Evangelicalism isn't conducted in real time. It's conducted in auditoriums with John MacArthur.
What about the charismatic?
Well they demonstrate in real time what they in fact are. An in part company. Part of what they do is conducted in real time.....but it is only in real meeting time. As in Spirit filled worship. Then comes the teaching. Which is still a rabbi teaching in an Old Covenant Synagogue style.....be it Rob Rufus or Bill Johnson.
Jesus was doing something the earth had never seen. He was teaching Spirit in real time exactly as fathers teach their natural offspring. In other words.....The equivalent for Him of our own Galatians 2.20 consciousness was so real that He taught OUT of His own life and Living in real time.
This is the Melchisedek Order being raised up on earth.
The Jesus Move had a crack at this, living in community. I am.still.deeply impressed with what Stan and Averil Warren were doing with us in Bible House in Emsworth. For years we lived with them and we were catching virally their life in God. They followed the Spirit. We followed the Spirit.....and as a house they would have crashed through into a total version of what Norman Grubb calls the Freefall of Faith and Total Living......
But to do that you need these things
Psalm24 violence.......to.seek God ardently and to persist until you find Him as your righteousness within you......violent men take the Kingdom by force......seek the Face of the God of Jacob.....learn how it is we can go up the Mountain with clean hands and a pure heart....learn the heavenly protocols first hand.
Religion will not allow you to do these things. Jesus and the disciples had very little.to do.with the synagogue infrastructure. The training was going on in real time as Jesus ministered to many many people.....but outside the system.
You have to have God's Life up and running in you to teach from that Life in real time. And this is the order God is raising. Like Jesus and Paul I name people openly......not to belittle them....but precisely because they are so brilliant they are worth working with. My beef with Annalize Mouton and Daniel Yordy is precisely over this real time issue. They still teach through online books pamphlets teaching courses. This is not what I am in. I am part of this next move which is the Melchizedek priesthood being raised in real time and as my Timeline shows I expect us all to be sharing Galatians 2.20 life in real time in the manner of Genesis 15.....open and laid bare carcasses that the Holy Spirit supernatural hovers between doing His dividing work in Hebrews 4.11
About 25 of us found God put us together in a continuous private message Thread for two non-stop.years here on Facebook. Two have since divorced.....many I have barely spoken with.....and with Daniel and Annalize I have had much friction because they weren't quite seeing the amazing thing that was happening that was simply beyond any of us and that God had brought us into.
I don't know if the quality of a church is measured by the speed it can be broken apart by the devil. If so we didn't measure up to Jesus and His disciples record of 24 hours.....after the upper.room discourse. But we were pretty close.

Everyone KNOWS HE WHO IS FROM THE BEGINNING

What I actually woke up with, but i couldn't get to in the previous two statuses without laying the foundation , is this:
If you are in a boat by the White Cliffs of Dover you actually can't see them. What?
Yes. They are toooooooo big.
As you look out the window you only see something like a white fog. In other words you are looking out at a tiny piece of cliff face which just looks white.
Even so, we are staring out at a work of God so enormous, so magnificent, and so carefully crafted over millennia, that we only see our bit of it. I talk about the third level of knowing God even as does Daniel Yordy, but the actual truth is more like we are living in just the latter stages of the second level.
If you were comparing where the World Church is, the true church following the Spirit of God....(these are the sons of God those who follow the Spirit)
and you were to compare this with the threefold package of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob.... we are kind of floundering around in the latter part of Jacob's time with Laban. The Word of faith Movement is a great parallel with when Jacob arrived at Laban's. What we preach and speak forth is always somewhere ahead of where we actually are.
A few days ago I posted the story of Arthur Wallis on my blog.
http://080808onnowto.blogspot.co.uk/…/arthur-wallis-on-birt…
Now in the 70s, relative to the 70s, Arthur Wallis was a thirdleveller. He was a Father to the then church in Britain. He wasn't received largely. To this day nobody realises quite what God was doing through him as he was quickly wheeled in to take Michael Harper's place, when Michael was in the USA preaching. Arthur preached to the whole of the Fountain Trust on the Gates in Nehemiah. Hardly anybody realises even now that the Almighty power of God through that one message spoke things into being right across in England. Basically, what the Lord was rolling out was nothing less than the first seven Gates....the SHEEP GATE right through to the WATERGATE and the irony was not lost that this was actually the time of Watergate!!!! In the late 80s God wheeled out the HORSE GATE that is, intercession on an unprecedented scale, opening up doors over cities nations and in particular the 10/40 window.
The Gates left to open up on a corporate world wide scale are
The EASTERN GATE : the MIGHTY INFLUX prophesied by most, which is represented by the Feast of In gathering in the Feast of Tabernacles
The GATE of MIPHKAD which has to do with a new type of administration that requires everybody to be living in thirdlevel Christianity
THE GATE of EPHRAIM which is the DOUBLE PORTION anonting that Morris Cerullo has been both preaching and bringing in, but relates to Elisha, and forerunners like Smith Wigglesworth.
And the FINAL GATE which is a truly THIRDLEVEL GATE....the PRISON GATE....allowing yourself to be bound that others be released. Check out Jesus final week on earth and the ministry of St Paul and the first apostles.
What I woke up with is this. I have been describing in recent months how the HOLY PLACE is made up of tribes.....BUT THEIR SHEWBREAD is neatly cut up in portions. I have been saying that until we cross the LINE OF SPIRIT that is all people can handle. The charismatic movement is divided largely into streams according to the Spirit capacity of the leaders....which often isn't that great.
Some don't "get" Israel. Some don't get "end Times". Some don't "get" hospitality. Some don't get "the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" Some don't get "helps and administrations"....some don't get Spirit teaching....some don't get the protocols of the heavenly places...some don't get prayer and fasting....on and on and on.....
Everyone in their particular stream.
The present Move is always here to offend those who stopped following the Cloud some time back.

This is what I woke up with....
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHURCHES AND STREAMS NOW AND THE HOLY PLACE.....WHICH WE ALWAYS STATE WAS THE CHARISMATIC MOVE....IS THIS
THEY MAY HAVE ALL DIFFERENT NICELY CUT UP BITS OF SHEWBREAD...BUT AT LEAST ALL TRIBES WERE IN ONE PLACE ROUND A TABLE.
One of the last times this actually happened was the Kansas City Shepherd's Conference in 1975.
Nehemiah 8 describes this type of cyclic God event when He gathers the people of God all together regardless of tribe in the one square. The walls and Gates were all finished. God's Spirit arranges Melchizedek order gatherings
ALL THE MORE SO as we see the DAY drawing near.
The point of the HOLY PLACE from a heavenly Tabernacle Melchizedek viewpoint
is to provide ALL THE NECESSARY FULL ORBED COMPONENTS to accelerate BODY members into THIRDLEVEL LIVING.

The candlestick and all the gifts and revelation of the Spirit, and Rhema Word are there in one corner. The table of SHEWBREAD which is the teaching of Christ's LOGOS LIVED OUT WORD from all 12 ANGLES of 12 TRIBES is there in the centre. This is a SPIRIT WORD environment that gives birth to the SPIRIT WORD CHURCH prophesied by Smith Wigglesworth.
This saints, is Ephesians 4
As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness [h]in deceitful scheming; 15 but [i]speaking the truth in love, [j]we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together [k]by what every joint supplies, according to the [l]proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
To get from our eternally Peter Pan Hebrews 6, never maturing environment church that is currently the worldwide state of things....
we speak the truth in love
we grow up in all aspects...because we are surrounded by all aspects...including those NOT in our comfort zone....
all joined in NEW COVENANT Jeremiah 31 style with the HEAD directly
finding ourself formed and holding together BY THAT CHRIST set of components that "properly working" individuals are supplying
that is individuals who now have Galatians 2:20 consciousness, are up and running in their unique Christ commissioning....
and who impart that empowering of grace direct into the veins of other body members.
IF YOU DON'T GET OR UNDERSTAND UNION you cannot understand Paul's sentence there....you have a Christ bit of the sentence....more blurb...concluded by causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
THAT IS ALL ONE THING.
Because in the thirdlevel
Everyone KNOWS HE WHO IS FROM THE BEGINNING
is related directly to the Father
and operates out from HIM.
There is no more "separation" consciousness....no more talking ABOUT God as both the evangelicals and charismatics are wont to do....
we speak the YEA and AMEN of God
We speak what God is speaking NOW as He lives in and through us....and when He is not doing anything....WE SHUT UP.

Report from Lithuania

This post celebrates 60 years in ministry of David Hathaway and in particular Lithuania last year.Those who are regular blogreaders will know about a couple I refer to as Nicholas and Pam.I'm not even divulging if those are their real first names. David Hathaway is unlikely to be aware of this couple either. If you look in the blog label list below they feature many times.
Who are they? They are Melchizedek order Black Ops....or as this is not Tour Of Duty, let's call them White Ops. They go ahead by the Spirit and open doors in intercession for up and coming moves of God. So far they have covered a lot of the Northern territories where there has been little or no moves of God. They spent several years in Lithuania in total, and have themselves been involved in some of the latter harvest. God also sent them unbeknown to them,the very week of the Icelandic Bank Crash into Iceland to pray right round the perimeter of the island. They experienced a bit of what St Paul refers to as "wild animals"....where it seems the demonic seems to get into normally peaceful animals who then go in to attacking mode...always a most odd and quite frightening experience. Odd things quite often occur as we go into warfare in the Spirit.
Because I have been writing about the Tabernacle I want to make it clear that from the moment we enter Holy Place Christianity which is the type of Christianity we're thrust into after being baptised in His Holy Spirit, God knows where we are at, even if we don't fully. He fully knows we are inexperienced, that we fall a lot still, that our walk is unstable, but unlike human training, we are cast in at the deep end. We can see this in the gospels with the disciples. Jesus never waited until they were fully rooted and grounded in Him. He sent them out to the villages to proclaim the good news.

I refer to Holy Place Christianity as 2ndlevel Christianity or as in 1 John 2 "young men" Christianity, but ofcourse not related with age, but Spirit growth. I want to be so clear. Holy Place Christianity is not 2nd rate Christianity.... we begin straight away to minister as full priests in God's Holy Place, in the real warfare and the real purposes of God. The disciples did too. Jesus found it the quickest way to bring people through in the Spirit. This is the method employed by YWAM,by Operation Mobilisation, by Morris Cerullo in his schools of ministry,by the prayer teams that surround Rheinhard Bonnke's work. By the way, I have just learned that just as it was George Jeffries who was kept alive
just long enough to anoint and commission Rheinhard Bonnke....he died hours later......it was George Jeffries who dedicated David Hathaway as a baby.

There are good reasons then for the greater than expected response in Lithuania. A doorway of utterance has already been opened by people sent in like Nicholas and Pam, and the praying inhabitants of the country.
Here is david's newsletter. For more info and pics about David and the crusades visit his website

http://www.propheticvision.org.uk/Biographies/index.asp







Dear Ministry Partner
What a wonderful way to celebrate the New Year – last year was the best year of my life! Now as this latest report indicates, God is on the move in the Power of the Holy Spit-it and we are preparing the Revival Missions for 2011. As you read this independent report below – let us believe in faith that in this New 'fear the Fire, the Power and the Revival will increase!
REVIVAL SWEEPS THROUGH THE TOWNS OF LITHUANIA: A personal report by Vitalijus Rumbutis:
`In October 2010 the people of Lithuania had a chance to hear the Good News from David Hathaway, These 'Days of the Gospel' served as a spiritual awakening to a great number of Lithuanians. It was truly a great blessing for the nation. More than 300 coaches brought those who wanted to come from every part of the country throughout Lithuania to the Siemens Arena – more and more buses were still being booked throughout the three days of the evangelism. All this was paid for by David's ministry in order to guarantee that there were no obstacles for anyone to receive the healing power of the Word of God. Thousands of people received the Biblical message of salvation and prayed the prayer of repentance.
`Because of the efforts of David Hathaway's team, the revival swept through the towns of Lithuania: Kedainiai, Siauliai, Kaunas, Pabrade, Birzai, Lazdenai and others. The number of unbelievers who were invited and joined the local churches and fellowships were ten times greater than the number of church members! In fact, Lazdenai village community brought so many people to the evangelism, that their number exceeded the number of residents of the village several times! This was a true revival, because all the people they took accepted the Gospel with gladness and open hearts. Many repented; many were healed from their sicknesses. The healing was truly immense and touched the masses. The rain of blessings covered Lithuanian transport companies, hotels, and a Christian hostel 'Deirnantas', where people attending the event were staying. A wonderful team of street evangelists, led by Alex Peremot from Latvia and supported by the churches of Vilnius,
preached the Good News of Jesus in the streets of our capital and other towns prior to the celebration. Reportedly, ortedly, in one week alone about one thousand people were touched by the message of salvation and love of God and received the Lord into their hearts.
`The Siemens Arena was too small for all those who wanted to attend, so all its balconies were opened. Thanks to the well organised work of the technical team and the ushers, the audience could both see and hear everything. Signs and wonders, healings and deliverance followed the anointed Word preached by Brother David Hathaway, who despite his age is young in spirit. David Hathaway has remained faithful to the Lord throughout all the years of his life and has proved it by the power of God, sharing the work and grace of the Lord. This power overwhelmingly flowed and filled the arena and all those present with unprecedented miracles of healing. There were multitudes who wanted to tell about what the Lord had done for them during the evangelism, prayer, and worship, but the time was not enough for everyone to speak. People received healing during the meetings, and afterwards on their way home. Many people felt huge relief from their pain, weakness, and illnesses. I, the author of this letter, was a happy witness of a tremendous change and healing in my body some time before the healing part of the service even began.
The special event at the Katrina Cathedral where representatives of the Vilnius municipality, the former mayor,members of the parliament,leaders of religious confessions and influential businessmen were invited was inspiring and gives us hope for our small,God-marked nation. The blessing touched the life and economy of the whole country,newspapers ,magazines,online streaming,televisionand radio programmes broadcast during the days of the evangelism testified to the mighty manifestation of God's power in the Siemens Arena, and we expect the evangelism to continue! The Lord's servant and your brother in Christ'
I want to thank all of you personally who made this happen by supporting this ministry with your finance and prayer. There has never been a Christian event on such a large scale in Lithuania, and it was a clear evidence that it was a real Word from God back in 2008 when 1 had a revelation that all different churches and fellowships —more than 80 — must unite for the common work of the Gospel in Lithuania. This is exactly what happened o as churches, worshippers and leaders of various Christian confessions took part in the preparation and organisation of the evangelism. That was one of the main factors, together with your help, which influenced the success of the work.
We want to assure you that this was worthwhile, you sowed in good soil, and the Days of the Gospel are not over. Now we urgently need the finance for this year's programme. Our problem is that at the beginning of last year we budgeted for an increase of 20% in donations — but actually received 9% increase. Our evangelism last year cost E1.5 million and we were 11% short! Don't be shocked by what I am about to say! I want God to do to our finances what He has done to our evangelism! And this will take the same level of faith and prayer that it has taken to see what God has just done in Lithuania! -1 he challenge for 2011: Blessed is the one who does not regret what he has done! Romans 14:22,
If we receive the first £2.50,000 this month and a further F175,000 each month, we can start in Israel — then continue in the largely Moslem Crimea -- followed by the Ukraine, Poland and then Holland, and include Armenia. But we need to start organising quickly. On January 19th I shall be going again for my week of prayer — to seek the Lord for the financial miracle breakthrough which we so desperately need. It seems that the devil is seeking to hinder us through lack of finance — although income last year was the highest on record. — But as the size of the revival is increasing across Europe, it means that we need our income to increase accordingly! The Bible says `what a man sows, that shall he also reap'. If we sow into the Kingdom of God we shall reap a bountiful harvest! —Which our brother, Vitalijus Rurnbutis, confirms in his report in this letter. Please stand with me as I go on the 19th to defeat the devil in Jesus Name!
As if as an answer to my prayer, yesterday I read the following. 'Beyond Expectations: I am able to do far beyond all that you ask or imagine. Come to Me with positive expectations, knowing that there is no limit to what I can accomplish. Ask My Spirit to control your mind, so that you can think great thoughts of Me. The more extreme the circumstances, the more likely you are to see My Power and Glory at work in the situation. Instead of letting difficulties draw you into worrying, try to view them as setting the scene for My glorious intervention. Keep your eyes and your mind wide open to ail that I am doing in your life. '
Ephesions 3:20-21; Romans 8:6; Isaiah 40:30-31 (NKIV); Revelation 5:13.
Your praying is as important as your giving — if you cannot give money —then give more prayer!

Specificity and Waggling your arms and hands like Jorge Pradas by Chris Welch

Facebook note on Saturday, 22 January 2011 at 22:53
Following on from Coming into God's House

Well that's a weird header title!

Let's deal with waggling first of all. On a handful of occasions, and there is one I'm calling to mind, Jorge Pradas who was used to lay apostolic Word in Emsworth, got us all waggling our arms and shaking our hands. This will confirm everything this current move think about the predecessor move of the 80s! But no, what he was getting us to do in the Spirit was shake free from all our preconceptions about


what we thought church life was

what the Christian life was

what our own lives were

and allow the Holy Spirit to invade.....to make what was nebulous, fluffy and ultimately just empty religion....specific and defined.



Around 10 years earlier Jorge was staying with his friend and former Brethren pastor Ian McCulloch in Emsworth. He was on holiday. But naturally he got invited to a monthly or weekly charismatic prayer meeting some of them held on Sunday nights. These were people from different churches. So there was Jorge minding his own business, but suddenly kicked to alert in the Presence of God that was evident there.



If God has birthed a ministry in you....it's part of you. There is no holiday. So like a bolt from the blue, this Word came out of heaven through Jorge . "What do you call yourselves?"

"A fellowship."

"What's a fellowship?"

People assumed it was a Catalan/Argentine translation problem probably.

So he repeated. "What's a fellowship? You can have fellowship. Show me in the Bible the word fellowship."

This stunned the charismatics, who were there for mutual encouragement and where they could freely use the gifts of the Spirit.

The Bible only recognises the Church. Are you the Church or aren't you?

That night then, Emsworth Church was born on that word. The church began and fundamental from the outset was that the members believed this was the Church.



Watchman Nee writes....you can have as many local churches as you like, meeting wherever geographically, but they must all be conscious that they are THE CHURCH and that they ARE ALL ONE THING.

Explaining that to the other churches in Emsworth seemed too difficult, so 15 years or so later they reverted to New Life Christian Church, Emsworth.Maybe something was lost in the process. Maybe this was an Ishmael/Isaac battle that was lost here. I am not there, so cannot comment.



I am in Portsdown Community Church. Peter Stott seems clear on the specificity of the church being the Church that happens to meet in the Meridian Centre...but whether it's always the same for all members I don't know.

"Community Church" is the style used in the days of Pyramid Apostle Networking. Their apostle was Tony Morton of Southampton. Community gets over "Redeemed Community". Well you hope it does.



But in all this hand and arm waggling, we have to be shaking ourselves from another of Man's orthodoxies.

Each individual perhaps thinks of himself/herself as two peas in a personal pod. The Old man/New Man rattling around inside. Old Chris new Chris in permanent Romans 7 struggle for identity. There's no personal specificity in the Spirit.





This is the "extracurricular" activity that the Holy Spirit has been cooking in the last 20 years. If we're not even clear what our church is....what are we believing about ourselves?



The Bible is very clear about the work of the Cross. It's not about to be complete. It's not being worked on. Jesus was quite categoric. "It IS FINISHED"

I have died with Christ. It is now nolonger I that live, but Christ who lives within me. The life I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God.



It is on this base that I stand individually. I am now Christ in my form. This is a faith stand. It is spiritually defined. It has absolute specificity. And put another group of like believing believers alongside me, and boldly we declare we are the redeemed community, the Church of the Living God.



Waggle your arms again and your hands.....shake off all the old preconceptions. The concept that we are some kind of humanist vehicle for activities such as praise, prayer,preaching and coffee at the top of the Meridian Centre in Havant.

An activity centre that meets 10.30 every Sunday and does more prayer activity at sundry other occasions, and runs a 2ndhand furniture shop to provide for a debt relief advice charity. All these are things. What's the Spirit reality?

Well there is a believing, and there is a Spirit reality, because people comment on it when they come. There are processes happening in peoples lives that Paul would saymatches his phrase: I came that I might find Christ crucified among you.



But I believe the gifts to the church all over the world are tightening up in their specificity. Faith only operates around specificity. In Genesis chapter 1 God never said, Let there be something kind of , I dunno.....like Light I suppose." It was targeted and entirely specific. It's also tougher humanly being specific isn't it?



Abraham knew that confronting 2 kings. He said Sarai was his half sister...actually she was....hummmm....but she was HIS WIFE....and that gets to be pretty relevant if you know someone is after sleeping with her. And not only that but the God of heaven's entire calling on your life is to bring forth a son of Promise through PRECISELY her.



I don't know what's tougher, Abraham being specific about his God Promise/wife relationship or Peter being specific about the exact relationship with

THE RABBI that has placed a specific CALL on your life, that you've been with three gob-opening years, while you watched and personally participated in some stunning miraculous events. And then....no half measures here....complete with cursing....Peter says at Jesus trial "I %^$£*&.. ing never met the guy Jesus in my life!"



My burden here goes beyond this to a specificity in the Spirit. What we're into, to be fully Christian, has to tie in with the heavenlies. In bringing the KINGDOM of GOD to earth. Daniel Yordy and Francois will tell you the KINGDOM is here already. That it's the knowledge of the Glory of God that has yet to fill the earth as the waters cover the sea.



Well some would say Thy Kingdom Come - the prayer....was fulfilled at Pentecost. The Kingdom did come.In Power.

But we are still praying Thy Kingdom Come, in an ultimate restoration of order type sense. This is the sense of the blog series I did on Psalm 24.

What I am steering things to is the prophetic.

This morning I was describing to Allen Mills the acceleration that took place as soon as the disciples received by faith the specific Word and calling that Jesus, operating in the Father brought to them, to make them Fishers of Men, if they

Folowed Him

Now.




We know from Elisha's call through Elijah. you don't mess around when God speaks. You obey. Now.And if you don't, like in the fifth chapter of Song of Solomon....


it's already too late. Jesus has gone.Moved on.



Part of the 1st commandment walk of loving God with all our being is priority. You don't put Him second to anything.And unlike human love for a person making a similar demand, you have the knowledge that God can undergird His call with His Provision.

Half the messes (humanly speaking) that we get ourselves into is that we are obeying a Word before we know for sure where our support will come from. Banks think we are nuts. Other Christians think we are nuts. The rest of our families can think we are nuts. But a call is a call. And the anointing is in that call, and hidden in it too, somewhere in the background sometimes is the provision for the call.



How many ministries have been launched on the back of Peter's walking on Water incident. As an event, it is probably more important historically as a Spirit teaching, than it is for the absolutely earth shattering event that it was. A human walks on water!



So hopefully you caught that. Things only accelerate when a Word comes, but in that Word is also the Power to get it achieved.

1.Churches don't have specificity.

2.Churches chunter along virtually as clubs, without any invasive Word.There has to be a sense of the invasion of the Kingdom into our "norm"

3. The heavenly Pattern

For this one you probably need to shake those arms and hands again, if only to please Jorge, who is now with Jesus thinking....at last....somebody was listening!



The last couple of notes on Facebook refer to the Tabernacle. Nancy Gilmore expressed that knowing the reality of Christ as her, she finds it alien to be thinking about the Tabernacle. I wrote to say the heavenly Tabernacle is the reality. The heavenly reality of this and the 3 Feasts are just how things work. And it is our lack of spiritual eyesalve in these realms that have made our "revivals" so bloomin random.

We are spending all our time building our own earthly conceptions of what revival , and church , and evangelism are.

-So people are all but stillborn

-making up churches that are human clubs

-praying for human concepts of what a revival might be......probably more of the same.



So here in brief is what should really be happening.


People are accelerated into the very Life of God only through the Word, the Living Word...however it comes to them.

This is as true of believers as it is of the living organisms that are the local versions of the Bride, called "ecclesia....called out ones....the Church"


A believer joins the people of God as an individual at the New Covenant equivalent of the brazen altar, the Cross.


They now have a new RESIDENT in their spirit, and fused AS ONE to their spirit; His Name is Jesus. Because Jesus lives there, when they come next to the Laver, they look in its shiny mirror surface and see Jesus.

So the Laver is the washing of water in the Word.... a process that ever continues.The Bible is nolonger a lawbook,but a mirror of the Lawkeeper inside us.

The Laver is baptism in water, which is us saying to God in the Spirit....yes I sign my signature on the dotted line of the New Covenant

This laver experience was something else for Jesus, and can be for us too. Jesus came out of his water baptism, with the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. He was baptised in the Holy Spirit.

We become priests by the Spirit of the Lord. We can enter now into the Holy Place.

Another baptism that is simultaneous to this , which prepares us to function in the Holy Place, is that we are baptised into the corporate Body of Christ. Like Ruth entering as an alien Canaanite into the people of God we say with her, "Your people are my people, your God my God."

Because none of the rest has been true in the lives of other church people, the Body of Christ remains only a somewhat pious concept, having a rather heavy religious atmosphere to it. But not so among those who share these foundations in the Spirit.

The Holy Place or the 2nd Feast experience of Pentecost is meant to be glorious. In the previous post I have described some of the negative aspects which we see manifesting in the disciples' lives in the gospels. This is particularly relevant in our day, because in the Church worldwide we have now thousands of overgrown teenagers who manifest many of the features of "Fatherhood" in the Spirit, but their own innards are so undeveloped, because only a handful of people have known there is a third stage of growth, or third feast experience.



When all functions in the order of the Spirit the "spiritual teenage" or "young men stage" is a glorious affair just as it is in the natural. Get a bunch of teenagers on fire for God even in the natural, and they have a glory all their own....just as newborn babies do. The Holy Place experience in a Living wing of the Body of Christ , the young men stage, IS NOT aligned with an agegroup such as teenage, IT IS a Stage of growth in the Spirit. My hunch is that were we in a culture that just loved Jesus properly from cradle to grave, our stages in the Spirit would be a lot more aligned with the natural growth stages. As it is churches are strewn with 70 years olds still in nappies, being bottle-fed....almost still born actually.



The last Facebook note covered the acceleration in the Holy place. Immature people have their bread cut up neatly for them according to their tribe. On the table of the shewbread in there are 12 loaves all positioned round the table for the 12 tribes.I mentioned that I am not speaking theoretically. I obeyed God's inner call to me to leave University after the first year only and found myself in an early prototype of a functioning Holy Place Community. (click for pics and more history)They didnt know about the 3rd level.They didnt know all the foundations listed above. But we weren't a community by committee either. Stuff was coming to the surface of people's lives as the Holy Spirit would engineer, and the Body would be covering these members and ministering victory and encouragement. In the worst instances of double leukaemia of a son and later his father, this also was dealt with in prayer. It was the first time such cases had survived anywhere in the world, by giving each other their bone marrow. It was all over the television news. This was our experience in Emsworth.



The foundation that we can now add, is a lot more detail as to how the 2ndlevel works, how it is a time of "reckoning" by faith according to Romans 6 and 7. There is an experience of the Altar of Incense, as we, in a manner very similar to old photography are placed into "FIXER".....remember that anyone? The third level is the fruit of this fixing process.

We know we are Christ in our form. We don't "need" meetings to prove this to us. We go into meetings to take them over for Christ. We are now walkers who practice the verse "Just as you received Christ as Lord, so now, walk in Him."



Anyone who has been with men such as Rheinhard Bonnke,Morris Cerullo, Andy Elmes (local to us) knows there is a Fire anointing that compels others to come to Christ. I have written about evangelists' frustration that so few seem to operate with this zeal to reach more for Christ. There's a truth in this. And there is a Holy Spirit fire which so few have. It is what propelled me into being a catalyst for revival in part of our school when I was 13. But as I have said above there is another very serious point to make.



Morris Cerullo and Rheinhard Bonnke minister unfailingly on the "outward means of growth". They so well know how to minister in the Old Covenant Law of doing Christian things to somehow grow in God. As true fatherhood 3rd level ministries we ARE NOT CALLED TO DO THIS. We impart the New Covenant by the Spirit. We continually impart the foundations above. God's children become young men (understand this is both sexes) who in turn become fatherhood ministries. People who are obviously utterly saved have a testimony to share, they are that Testimony, who is ofcourse Jesus established in us. The thought that this won't have impact is unthinkable. A thirdleveller immediately gets noticed.

In fact in times past, when there were so few, if they wrote books, they'd automatically be high on the Christian bookshelves. Corrie Ten Boom,Oswald Chambers,Spurgeon,John Wesley,Madame Guyon,Dietrich Bonhoeffer,Watchman Nee,Mother TheresaJohn Wimber,Mother Basilea Schlink....the list goes on and on.



I want to temper comments about generals like Morris Cerullo,Benny Hinn and Rheinhard Bonnke with respect for all the ways in which the Holy Spirit has used them to bring a harvest. This has to be weighed in the Spirit with the thousands of believers that are running as fast in the opposite direction from such men. You see apart from individual growth in Christ there is another aspect to the 3rd level Body that was pioneered by John Wimber, and particularly later in 2008 in Lakeland.



If saints have proper Spirit foundations they are catapulted forward in growth. But more than this the BODY BUILDS ITSELF IN LOVE, at apace that is frankly FRIGHTENING. If you could really understand and appreciate what is happening on Facebook and blogs internationally, you would be stunned. But no man has the overview. And that's the point.Morris Cerullo's phrase was always "This is not the Work of a man, but the Holy Spirit." (And by the way, this is an example of specificity in the Spirit."

The problem with Morris - even though he does invite in 12-15 other extremely anointed platform ministries-

it's still Morris Cerullo Ministries.

The true 3rd level stuff is FACELESS.It's going on internationally non-stop around the clock. You can see from my 1989 message that I have been prophesying this but had no clue about Facebook. No man is in charge. Jesus is doing it.

So,we've covered 2 of the points.

People will nolonger be stillborn, but will grow right through to maturity.

The church will not be religious clubs, because they have living stones, and an unimaginable variety of matching wineskins. So much easier to reach people with churches of people that don't have dummies sticking out of their mouths.

But the last point is revival.



Ofcourse Morris,Benny and Rheinhard have to run round at HUUUUGE Kingdom expense like headless chickens. They are not preaching the right gospel. It's hugely incomplete. Nobody can grow. It's not new Covenant, apart from depositing an anointing of the Spirit on their heads, they then dose them up with tons of laws of what a Christian looks like.

BUT a Christian doesn't look like anything. He is Christ in THAT PERSON'S FORM! What's all this external stuff about then? it's the very opposite of what James spoke, that's what it is:
Acts 15:9 19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. "

The Feasts describe the revival cycles that we see at the very outset of the Church.Not only are we growing, individually and corporately , but as natural as waves on the sea, or birth contractions in childbirth, we learn to move with the Spirit's Harvest cycles over localities. The 3rd Feast , Tabernacles,has its own massive Feast of Ingathering built in.

Ingathering follows Trumpets and Atonement. This is typified in Joel with the priests flat on their faces.

Here's a 1960s picture:

Graham Pulkingham, brought to the end of himself on the crypt floor of the Church of the Redeemer Houston for 3 solid months. (His Day of Atonement)

This intercession birthed a whole community that brought thousands into the church, and ultimately affected my life as the whole group moved to England and ministered into places like our school after our revival.Graham was a 3rd leveller bringing forth a group of 2ndlevellers who surrounded him, who in turn would have gone off and done the same.



Are you getting the picture how we have totally missed it? Of how wrong Benny Hinn's,Rheinhard Bonnke's, and Morris Cerullo's pattern is, as we mature into a really Living version of the Body of Christ. We don't have to wander round like a corpse Zombie anymore. Havant doesn't need to have half of its members dosed up on medications in depression, and the rest sick as dogs, all staring at you with bleary eyes. (Slight exaggeration) But you get what I am saying. Enough of this half-gospel,half-church,half-Life. The heavenly Pattern is there for everyone to see. Quit fighting the Spirit, and just do things His way. I mean our way has sure worked well hasn't it? Just read God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.

Coming Into God's House by Chris Welch

First appearance as Facebook Notes Part One and Two, with an excerpt from Daniel Yordy .

In the last supper,Jesus girded Himself like a servant,bent down and made to wash Peter's feet. "No,no,no,master."Peter was horrified. Peter if you dont allow Me to do this, then you'll have no part in Me." "oh well, do all of me."
We're one day away from the Big "B" in Peter's life. "B" day. Peter , within hours, is going to experience one of the biggest "Breaks" in a psyche that any man at any time has had. He is going to be confronted with his independent self!!!!
Until then....until true Spirit definition begins to nail him in the coming days and weeks, he is much like you and me.Up one minute, down the next.Super holy, and doesn't need help.....overly zealous and religious and grovelling the next.

So the problem in entering God's House, both in our lifelong experience, or in say, some individual meeting, or coming to know Jesus in the first place, isn't a problem with
God's grace
God's protocolls
God's expectations
God's commands.
It is entirely OUR PROBLEM. We don't know who we were....before the Cross changed our identity....nor AFTER.
So it doesn't matter how God lays it out for us....
in all the books of the Bible
through all the most anointed people preaching on the Earth today
through friends who break through religious men's ceilings in order to let their beloved crippled friend down safely at the feet of Jesus.
Things JUST WONT WORK FOR US.....or let's rephrase that....some things will work some times. But here's a fantastic truth.....EVEN the failures are all taking us somewhere. Jesus life in us WILL GET US where we want to be if we just refuse to give up, and carry on believing ON HIS LIFE, and its power to get us there. This is what we mean by Grace. And what we also mean by grace, is that while God is making this life work in us....from the outset His grace is also covering us...at all times. How fantastic is that? His life in us is enough!!!!
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So as grace believers we can come into God's Presence, and continue to grow exactly as we please, because He is going to cover us. Nope. This is the SAME God that surrounded Himself with such terrifying holiness at Sinai, that the people all spoke unanimously.....we don't want any of that....it absolutely freaks us out....you go up Moses!!!! The same God.
Now in Hebrews it says we have not come to Sinai, but to Zion. So we gaily skip in then. We create a temple of our choosing. With steps. With the hoops and hoopla of our choosing.
Nope. Again nope.

We throw away the paraphernalia of the tabernacle of the OT then? And just do our thing?
Nope. Here is the secret. The earthly tabernacle never had any value in itself at all. Even when it was standing as a picture, by God coming to presence Himself within it, He was saying even then..."Even now, this is not the reality. I am the reality, and the True Tabernacle is even now in the heavenlies."

So, in the New Testament, yes we throw away the sacrificed animals and all the tent paraphernalia....to forever forget about it?...like they do in Baptist churches and Quaker meeting places, and Methodist Churches? No. Denominations are totally off their rocker here....or worse still, like the Catholics, they virtually rebuild the whole outer sequence of the Tabernacle again IN THEIR CHURCH BUILDINGS. What's that about?

Nope. Neither is accurate.
From the moment you meet Jesus in truth. You do not decide how you will enter God's house, God does. You are not the Lord. He is. You do what He says, by faith. You don't argue. You don't shout. You don't reinvent the wheel. You don't create the new Electronic pulpit Denomination. You sit down. You shutup. And gradually, as the Holy Spirit reveals to your innards....(just like David who said he meditated in God's courts....ie. it takes a while to twig)
your jaw begins to drop
and you begin to see
that little old you
are to be presented, by means of the Holy Spirit
and by following the steps of all the other saints
into a position that you can be entrusted
alongside your elder brother Jesus
with co reigning and co ruling
the very Universe!

Beats just going to church! Doesn't it?
But much more than this. As if this wasn't amazing enough.
You will learn that God chose you from the beginning, before time
to be Eternally wrapped up in
totally in love with, and receiving love from
His Bridegroom to be
JESUS.

So yes, God is particular. You bet He's particular! It's because He has to...He wants to
MAKE YOU LIKE HIMSELF, mature and lacking nothing....but IN HIM , not as some independent myth of a being,
which is the lie the devil spins.

The Old Testament Tabernacle of Moses was the cardboard cut-out model of the ETERNALLY existing NOW reality of heaven. For the latter see the book of Hebrews, for the former see Exodus 25.
Every single bit of furniture or object has a LIVING spiritual counterpart in the heavenly places and NOW in your spirit, which is the dwelling place of God if you are born again.
The other thing Moses Tabernacle is , is a photograph in time, a slow-motion play-(forward)....not playback...it was constructed before Jesus came,remember?
of Jesus death,resurrection and ascension. A microcosm of ALL that was going to be accomplished at the Cross.

So you enter the Courts of the Lord at the brazen altar. The different sacrifices here represent the different aspects of the way Jesus has dealt with you!!!!. His blood was shed to cover your sin for all time.
There were two goats to get over the two aspects of Jesus dealing with sin. The goat burned on the altar, was like Jesus offering His whole life, His last drop of blood to cover our sins.

The second goat was driven away into the desert. This is the little understood BODY DEATH of Christ.....the Bread part of the communion. We are primarily spirit, who have souls and a body. So when we bow to the Lordship of Christ, and ask for His Spirit to come in....He DOES....as OUR SOLE new identity. Like the goat, our old man...the sin spirit identity...was driven away at the Cross. Or more accurately, Jesus became our Sinspirit container, and like a rubbish bin, took our totally lost identity, our fallen identity into death with Him....and left it there at the Rubbish tip of hell. Just like the goat,driven into the wilderness, never to be seen again. Then the Holy Spirit did not leave Jesus in the grave, but resurrected Him
and more incredibly still
US in HIM
so that now our lives are hidden with Christ in God!!!!!Forever.Faith takes this as fact, and forever we are changed on our insides. Born totally new. The old HAS PASSED AWAY. Dave Bilbrough's song WAS completely accurate!!!!

THEN, WE GET WATER BAPTISED,TOTALLY IMMERSED TO CELEBRATE THE FACT
that like the Israelites through the Red Sea, who lost all their Egyptian pursuers in one swoop,
we are cut off from all the spirits of hell trying to haunt us. They have no part in us. It is true deliverance.
Now Jesus, who knew no sin, did not have the equivalent in his spiritual experience of some brazen altar. HE JUST HAD NO NEED. But interestingly He was immersed totally in the Jordan to fully represent, as NEW FEDERAL HEAD of what was about to happen. And the clarity of this is only coming now as I write.
He was stating, by His Body action, something prophetic and something new in the Earth.

All through the Old Testament, the corporate Body of God....Israel, had operated spiritually in the confines of the
OUTER COURT of redemption.....matters concerning forgiveness...and a "distant knowledge of God". Matters concerning the brazen altar, and washing in the 2nd item there, which was the laver. The laver stands for washing in the Water of His Word. It stands for the initiation and deliverance of baptism.
Baptism is us signing our signature on God's brazen altar signature....of God's Covenant. For 30 years,Jesus had lived in these corporate confines....but suddenly at 30 , he left His secular activities, receiving the ministry call on His life,He "stepped up to the plate" in Jordan , being baptised by John....

AND THIS WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE SPIRIT, when Jesus was baptised in the Holy Spirit, in the very same way that you or I get baptised in the Spirit....

He was opening the DOOR for the Body of God in the Earth to the Kingdom
But now a KINGDOM of POWER
A KINGDOM in the HOLY SPIRIT
where ALL are now made priests. We are now a spiritual priesthood.
He was opening the DOOR in heaven corporately, that had never been opened since the Fall, to THE HEAVENLY HOLY PLACE. The middle area in the Tabernacle.He as the Forerunner, as the one injected into the line of Adam, in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh, yet knowing no sin,had stooped down from heaven...to this moment in Jordan

where he was taking the corporate Body of God onto a new trajectory. The LIFE of the HOLY PLACE. A life in the Holy Spirit. A life where man would manifest the supernatural powers of the age to come.

But at the Laver, before entering quite into the Holy Place, something else is true. Something that is really being spelled out in Francois Du Toit's Mirror translation of the New Testament. The Laver was a brass shiny bowl. It was highly reflective. This is important...but only if the two goats experience at the brazen altar has truly happened. When we look into the laver Mirror Word...we now nolonger see condemnation. We now nolonger see impossible demands made on us by the Law. We see Jesus in us. We are ONE spirit with Him. We are one spiritual identity with Him.
HE IS NOW THE LAW KEEPER IN US. Our task: to believe His Word. To believe ON the LAWKEEPER who indwells us.

From now on, we leave natural daylight. We receive the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Our dealings with God, functioning as priests, are uniquely by the Power of, in the flow of, in the timing of the Holy Spirit. In the Holy Place is the candlestick, representing this anointing. We see light in His Light....not in the light of our own previously humanistic understanding. Our priesthood is by this Light, not by our clever lists of drawn up agendas and schedules. We are beginning to be conformed to His full image in us. His ways of working and living in us. This is like the corporate charismatic experience the world church has now been familiar with, particularly in the last 100 years. In the next part we will continue on into God's House, also deriving clarity from a section of writing Daniel Yordy posted recently.
Part 2 is below
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The Holy Place - the most dangerous place on Earth
You'll have heard that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The Holy Place is dangerous for this reason. We are. In the Holy Place we are armed...but still dangerous. We, ourselves are still " seeing" more than God. Give you an example:
some of the disciples were fishermen. While they were on the beach, mending their nets, or in their boats catching fish, they were not particularly dangerous. They were ordinary Jews. They knew about things like God, things like forgiveness, although unlike a modernday believer who knows he has asked Jesus into his or her life, they only later knew that "inner" knowing of Holy Spirit confirming to spirit that they were born again from the inside. This happened not in Acts 2 at Pentecost, but when Jesus "breathed His Spirit " upon them before ascending to the Father.

Having left their nets the disciples became dangerous. Living like we do after the Star Wars films were made we would say that Jesus taught them the ways of the Force. They were introduced to things like the Presence of God falling on a multitude. They were introduced to power manifestations. Of healing. Of totally unexplicable things. Miracles. For these, as forerunners of what we have experienced in the last 100 years in the charismatic movement, were being inducted into a whole corporate realm in God, that previously had been enjoyed by individuals, and rarely. Like prophets. Where you believe for things and they happen!

But if you are still seeing more than God this is dangerous. You see Jesus said quite openly and transparently, I only do what I see my Father doing. In another place, I must still work because I see my Father working still. But the disciples saw a whole lot more than what the Father was doing. Understand the word "see" in this context is an inward seeing. A set of internal thought processes that are like an operating system chuntering along underneath our conscious thought.This is where we do our "faith" seeing. But if like it says in Ezekiel 10 :8, the inner walls of our thoughtlife, our Temple life are scrawled with hateful things, with unclean things.....THIS DOES NOT MEAN our internal FAITHING mechanism, our "believe" machine will cease to operate. Now you're beginning to understand why the Holy Place experience is so dangerous.Exactly!

The disciples start to call down fire from heaven on a little village that has failed to receive them. Have you ever wondered what that meant? Maybe every where else received the Word but had offered them a cup of tea? Perhaps this village had not offered any drinks?

We do not know all the details of the offense....but Jesus neither endorses nor negates what they take offense in....what we do know is the FATHER is not pouring out any fire today....so ....seeing "more than God" falls into the territory of another spirit....a spirit from hell. Jesus was not sent to judge at this point. He was sent to preach. Whoever did not receive Him had Jesus withdraw and move on.

Having power but seeing more than God is like the sin of witchcraft. Dangerous. And sinful.
An evangelical. A denominational man. Perhaps a "burnt out" free believer, withdraws at this point. Too dangerous. Let's go back fishing.

That's not correct either.

The Purpose of the Holy Place
If it was correct the whole shape of the gospels would be more like a modernday theological seminary. A dry and waterless place where theories about an" out there God" are taught in a pretty abstract fashion. No, the things I am telling you are drawn from scripture, but are drawn also from my life experience. They are NOT dry and waterless theory. So in both what I "see" from scriptures in my innards, and what I have lived I can teach with some authority.
(But you don't have to submit to my pyramid if you don't want to.Sorry had to throw that one in. Me and pyramids don't like each other)

The HOLY PLACE is the nearest in God terms that you get to modern physics. It is a particle accelerator.
It is a WAY to the TRUTH machine. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. You can also express it in linear terms as He is the WAY to the TRUTH about you and about God; having been impacted at the base of your system,you're in a shape to now RECEIVE HIS FULNESS of LIFE in a complete 24 hour form...not just a "meeting" form.

The overall GOAL

Misconceptions

Denominational religion and especially Catholic religion has so confused the world as to what coming into God's House is for.It's made such a big thing of the Chasm between mortal humanity and a Transcendent God, that in this mindset, it has filled its church buildings with"Tabernacle reheated" paraphernalia. It's tried to yank Jewish Tabernacle furniture into a New Covenant context, but behaving in a Jewish Old Testament way...except the Jews had the actual Cloud and Pillar of Fire realities of God...oh.....and tons of sheeps and bulls.... Catholics say they have the "reality" of Christ in the "Transubstantiation" of the Bread and the wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus....but you only have true believers word for this. By far the majority of Catholics have no knowledge of being born again and baptised in the Spirit. The realities of which the Catholic structure speaks are not realities for the average Catholic.
So denominational religion leaves us with the idea that a select few go into the inner inner sanctums to fellowship there with the UNKNOWABLE GOD.

What the Tabernacle is really

Denominations haven't a clue that the Tabernacle is about you. God doesn't need a Tabernacle. He is Light. He is Life.He is joy. He is Love. He also doesn't need a house for you to approach Him. He needs a tabernacle for YOU to fuse with Him. For you to become like Him. So that YOU know that you know that you know (3 times for the 3 sections) that you have LIFE in HIM...and that you'll never LOSE it...oh....and that you know how to operate in it...

AS He is .....so are we in the world.

Jesus is the firstborn.........of many brethren. He though being divine, and for the joy set before Him, of having an innumerable company just like Him, operating just like Him,
spoke an eternal yes to the Father's intent when He said
Today I have begotten you.

What does begotten mean for an Eternal Person of the Trinity that has always existed. It means He has delightedly said yes to being BEGOTTEN in another format, forever. Human. Flesh and blood. Though for a while made lower than the angels....this format would change in the manner of the acacia box in the Holiest Place. Acacia is pretty ordinary looking like our humanity.
It is also a BOX. A container.
A container for God. God's glory.
Gold glory on the inside. Gold glory on the outside.

So all the time, these stupid church buildings ermmmm....built for the "glory of God"
WERE ABOUT YOU
being like HIM. Bone of His bone.Flesh of His flesh.

Yes, the holy place is dangerous....but is also the quickest,slickest means of getting God's life in you fully operational in.....well it took the disciples 3 years. Because we're coming out of a time in the 60s where Bishops were announcing the Death of God, it's taken us decades to retrace all the steps, and clear away the weeds
and do what our generation was called to

build a highway in the desert.
Raise up the former devastations....
enlarge the border of your tents......what? Beyond the charismatic movement? What could possibly be beyond that?Surely we'll fall off the edge of the known world. This way tharre be drrrragons!!!Arrrr!

It seems so stupid now that we thought Benny Hinn stadium meetings were the edge of God's purposes this side of eternity.There are still people on the earth that are convinced "the Land" is over the Jordan of Death.
That the Feast of Tabernacles sole fulfilment is some "marriage supper of the Lamb" in some future glory.

So running side by side are the two heavenly pictures for us, both for us corporately and individually.
The three places in the Tabernacle
The three Jewish Feasts of Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles. Now these feasts are all about the stages of harvest. Or what Ezekiel calls "wheels within wheels". You see one person's , or one corporate move's Tabernacles is going to be another's "entry point" or Passover and Pentecost. I puzzled over this for years. The clue is this.
Acts 2 was Pentecost for the 3000.....but for the apostles, who called themselves forerunners....it was their Tabernacles. One of the things that happens in Tabernacles is the Feast of Ingathering. More corn coming in. More harvest . More people.

On the one hand it is good to have evangelists preaching in and out of season. They are built that way....and they impart that spirit to the whole Body of Christ.It is a ministry gift anointing that resembles the huge arm of a combine harvester. "In you come folks". Deluge , deluge.....

On the other hand they are like headless chickens running around with this chip on their shoulders that nobody is helping them. Absolutely unaware...blissfully unaware...that the Lord of the harvest has everything in hand...and if they'd only teach the actual gospel a bit more
then all the harvest cycles would actually happen
the Kingdom leaven would spread in a seamless flow
and people would actually look a bit more saved in their lives than they do in our church, where half are on medication for depression, the other half are desperately sick. The overseeing pastor was clobbered in his knee as he was getting into a car...someone drove off too soon....and he goes to Bill Johnson's church to learn more about healing, and half loses the sight in one eye.

Saints...there's more to life than charismatic bubbletown living...like little Eden Project bubbles all over the world...cut off from normal life....and frankly walking a bit weirdly.....sort of charismatically. Until you've been out a few years, for me it was 10....you won't have a clue what Im talking about....for you it's still all great.
Stopping at charismaticville, or the Holy Place is the most dangerous place in the world.

A person will say to Jesus " Look, I did all these things in your name. i prophesied in your name."
Jesus will look Him straight in the eye and say
I never KNEW you
I never FUSED with you
I never Altar of INCENSED you to bring you into a permanent version of what you only knew in an external way in the charismatic movement
I tried to reach you from outside of your Eden Project Charismatic bubble, but you weren't having it,you never came out to join me
So sadly I say, Depart from me you unbeliever.
Whatddya mean unbeliever....I'm a man of faith....signs are following me everywhere
The One SIGN I asked you to believe for, you never believed
What sign?
That you would be a SIGN of my indwelling Life...Me fused as you.The Father at home in Me, now both at home in my Spirit in you.
Seek first the Kingdom of God and My Righteousness...Me living as you
and ALL these things.......

Daniel Yordy describes our passage through the Feasts this way:

The central word of the first feast, Passover, in its fulfillment in the life of the church, is grace. The central word of the second feast, Pentecost, is power. The central word of the third feast, Tabernacles, is authority.
Grace is the Greek word, charis, which means gift. Grace is God Himself present with us as our life as a gift to us. The blessing of the beginning of the Christian life is that God is now with us, we are no longer alone.
But the presence of God with us was knowledge only. We did not know that God impacted the physical world. Therefore we put everything off to a someday "heaven."
Then God brought us into the experience of Pentecost and we received power. The purpose of power is to be a witness of Christ. That is to show by demonstration that God Himself is present in the human, physical experience. We experienced the Bible becoming a new book to us, we saw miracles take place in physical bodies; we experienced supernatural provision and guidance - all means of God present with us more than just as an idea, but in outward demonstration of reality.
But both the knowledge that God is with us and the experience that He is with is in power all came to us as immature believers who did not know what God is doing. We knew that He is taking us on and up, but too many re-defined that upward call to mean "going to heaven" after physical death.
In the first feast, we lived in the outer court of the temple. We talked often about the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross - the brazen altar, and we pursued 'Bible study' - the brazen laver. When we heard there was more, we pressed on forward to enter into the Holy Place.
In the second feast, we lived in the Holy Place. We enjoyed the bread of truth, that is, the Bible as a living word; we walked in the light of the Spirit of God in ways we had not known in the outer court. But we heard there was more, so we pressed forward to the altar of incense, desiring to be consumed by its flame that we might rise up and enter into the Holy of Holies.
In moving out of the outer court into the Holy Place, we left many of our brethren behind who were quite content with the outer court and had no desire for anything more from God in this life. In moving towards the altar of incense, we left many of our brethren behind who were quite content with the Holy Place, with the bread and the light, the provision and the joy, and had no desire for anything more from God in this life.
But the altar of incense itself can be a place that many choose to set up their dwelling place, convinced that the entrance into all the fullness of God revealed in us will not actually happen in this life and on this earth. They are content to wait until their physical bodies perish and go into the grave before they enter into the Holy of Holies.
The third feast is entirely different.
In the first feast, God with us was a nice idea, but kept in a distant sort of way, back then, up there, some day. In the second feast, God with us became much more relevant and real to our daily life. But still, we were one and God was another. We saw ourselves separate from God, and we saw 'God with us' in only a limited way.
To enter the third feast, to enter the Holy of Holies, we must become the smoke of the incense, that is, we must disappear into God. To enter the third feast, we let go of any claim to a 'self' identity , to being some person, separate from God's person. We now see that we are one spirit with the Lord, that He carries every part of ourselves inside Himself and that He lives in every part of us, right now, as we are in this world.
But in entering the third feast, we do not 'leave behind' any part of the first or second feasts. Rather, those things pertaining to those two feasts, the elements of our salvation and the power of the Holy Ghost, are raised into a closeness and personal-ness beyond what we ever understood before.
Here is what is different about living in the third feast.
We are no longer going forward into God. Rather, we are seated upon the mercy seat, the throne of God, and we are looking out towards His creation, seeing now with His perspective, seeing all things as He sees them. God with us has swallowed us up completely and now it has become that we are with God. Now we are caught in the passion and power of His determination. He moves through us to prove His will in the earth.

The rest of the article describes what we are moving into authority for....to speak the Word and address the last Enemies. http://www.dyordy.com/Archives/AndTheyShallNourishHerThere.html
Related to this is the series we have both contributed to describing our Psalm 24 mandate to speak to the Ancient Doors
http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2010/09/recent-history-of-psalm-24-part-1-first.html