Seeing

 You cannot see the Kingdom unless you are born again .

You can see a kingdom but not The Kingdom .

So with our 5 senses we can perceive the kingdoms of this world incuding church outer structures .

With our natural sixth sense we can perceive the forbidden territories of fallen angels but it's forbidden because it is part of 

" then were the eyes of Adam and Eve opened".

All these sentences were pretty meaningless until around 1990.....

Left and right brain went public 

Schroedingers cat went public 

Quantum physics started to be talked about publicly 

I spent the first 32 years of my life as a fourth quartile St John personality not knowing why I wasnt received .

It was a fantastic door opening for us .

In the 20s and 30s Steiner , Alice Bailey ,Gurdjieff were opening the occult realms to the public .

The 60s hippies were more benign requiring only the use of LSD.

But it was the 90s when the CIA / MIT brain studies started hitting the normal public .

There was a right brain drawing book that Christians told me was occult .

Here's the issue we didnt know.

We are unique and in this respect only we are gods . Jesus said " Do you not know that you are gods ?"

Its this unique capacity that angels want to hijack .

Our 3d reality drawing pad is our inner seeing .

God through man draws the future on our writing pads . Angels do not have this capacity . They use us.

Clairvoyance and magic tools are wrong because it is fallen angels  creating false infrastructures .

We have to be born again and be inside the holy blood of Jesus to access this dynamic holy creative seeing that is the power of God incarnating His Holy Self on earth .

Check out Ezekiel 8 and the parable of the good soil .

Are any of you catching this ?

The first two stages of 1 John 2 are us learning our tools .....

Learning psalm123. Learning the single eye .

Learning that blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God .

There's no exception to how we access Gods version of seeing ....through the blood sacrifice of Jesus .....because it is entering His own Person .

Theres no exception to learning our Melchizedek priesthood .....functioning in the powers of heaven to come ....this is baptism in the Spirit .

Theres no exception to learning our Galatians 2.20 and Colossians 3.3 union along with all saints .

These are our three growth stages ....which are simply our maturation into our day job .

In the natural this is Macdonalds or university professor or farmer .....then we go into action .

Norman Grubb who outlined CT Studd , Rees Howells and then his book Yes I Am , he was given  5 commissionings by God which came to pass .

Our last 500 years has been reopening the heavenly tabernacle on earth . Reopening all Nehemiah's Jerusalem Gates . Reopening the Three National Feasts in the Spirit .

Luther reopened the front door . Justification by faith .

Massive stuff has been opening up across the earth but unless we are born again all we see is Bill Gates and Trump pyramids .

A Recent History of Psalm 24 Part Four: Me and Carol Decker

This is a post about the "middle realm", the contest for the Holy Place, the fight and struggle that goes on in the "second heaven" and the surprising realisation that at least a part of that realm, and the key part is inside us. We're going in via Andre Rabe, via Carol Decker and via a song of mine.We're going to learn what the "fullness of the times "is and the present reality of the typology of the Tabernacle.You'll never think quite the same about the Parable of the Sower either. From the Chapter "Apprehended" from Secret Of Contentment ISBN 978-0-9563346-0-2 - Andre Rabe What is this strange ... yet familiar attraction this awareness of Your person that draws me beyond myself It's not a desire for pleasure or any type of reward it's a hand upon my spirit that pulls me toward a consciousness of our union without distraction. What will You say ... Where will You take me ... You are utterly unpredictable yet completely dependable and I revel in this uncertain security. Uncertain, because You continually surprise me. Secure, because I'm at home in Your embrace. The more intimate our acquaintance the greater the intrigue of Your boundless person and infinite mind. Here I belong; here I will abide. I found the secret of satisfaction yet there remains this mysterious magnetism to explore Your height and depth, to open my spirit eyes as wide as You. And as I experience a vision of Your greatness, I expand beyond the narrow confines of earthly logic and my natural mind to perceive what cannot be understood and know for certain what cannot be explained. END This morning I felt to write on Facebook: Brokenness is a phrase Gene Edwards and Ed Miller used a lot. I think it's a secondlevel word. We're in a new generation now. It gave too much prominence to the pot. I think Daniel Yordy's diagram is far more accurate. How many remember the lyrics of China in Your Hand by Carol Decker of T'pau? Lyric writer Carol Decker explained that it is the effect that if you hold a china cup to a light, you can see your hand through it - therefore 'china in your hand' means something that is transparent.[1] China in Your Hand From the album Bridge of Spies by T'Pau Written by Carol Decker and Ron Rogers... It was a theme she had On a scheme he had told in a foreign land To take life on earth To the second birth and the man was in command It was a flight on the wings Of a young girls dreams That flew too far away And we could make the monster live again Oh hands move and heart beat on Now life will return in this electric storm A prophecy for a fantasy The curse of a vivid mind Don't push too far Your Dreams are china in your hand Don't wish too hard Because they may come true And you can't help them You don't know what you might Have set upon yourself China in your hand Come from greed Never born of the seed Took life from a barren hand On eyes wide Like a child in the form of a man A story told A mind of his own An omen for our time We take a flight on the wings of fantasy Then you push too far And make your dreams reality Yeah! china in your hand But they're only dreams And you shouldn't push too far When asked what the lyrics meant, Ron Rogers co-writer said he wasn't sure, but Carol said it's about Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein"..... So it's saying something like : what originally began as a theme in an author's mind could in these days of genetics take on outer form as we juggle around with life itself. We could make the monster live again. But on another level this speaks of that diaphanous layer below the conscious mind that conjures our future, that draws our future to itself. It can and MUST be invaded by the Holy Spirit, lest we draw to ourselves many outer forms of the monster that was always the design of the devil to draw to earth. But conversely He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world. Here world means kosmos(Greek): the limited world of those (as Ern preaches) moral intelligences submitted to the devil's lying reign. Can I briefly press this home as it is related to the scheme of this post? Our first position as non-Christians is to ignore or possibly categorically deny any Devil. This is falsehood. Our second position as Christians , and more so Spirit-filled Christians, is to absolutely be aware of the devil. He can scare us witless...and we like many Christians go around spouting about the "god of this world", thinking world means the same one God created and includes everything within it. This too is falsehood. As Ern preached: The Earth is the Lord's and the Fullness thereof. The more we "see" God in all, even and especially the bad things, the more we pull the rug out from underneath the devil's slender and lying claim to how things are run on Earth. But this seeing goes on underneath our conscious thought level. It's our instinctive level. It's where we really "see" everything in our life from. Here's three examples of people who outwardly are one thing but underneath something is going on that affects them more, one positive two negative: A man I tune for lives in a large house in a large wooded acreage near Ascot. It is near London.It is not too far from the Queen's outer London residence in Windsor and Windsor great park. You can only imagine the cost of such a house and property. He loves landscaping his property and adding lovely features. Every time I go there is something new. Yet this man is sad. Not at the surface level, but underneath. He seems to live a life of total depression. Possibly, because he knows all his money comes from shredding flesh- or the manufacture of weapons to kill people efficiently. And, up until recently, this involved virtually blank cheques from our government. Meanwhile, when I visited Kenya in 86, my parents and I were taken for a tour round a hillside forested property by the 16 year old daughter of a Salvation Army Captain who was mostly absent and working among the slums of Nairobi. The daughter was virtually a second mother to his children. She was not bitter. She had a beautiful, pure spirit. Her inner eye which shone out of her outer eye was bright and beaming.They had virtually no money, yet at any time as she did with us, she could pull down the most amazing bananas, lemons,limes,oranges and mangoes fresh from their trees. The water in their stream was crystal clear and fresh, and they lived in a small community of neighbours who shared responsibility between them for care of the children, when others were at work or needed to study. Stephen Fry is constantly referred to as our national treasure as one of the most articulate and knowledgeable of souls, yet at the level I refer to in this post he is constantly riding the rollercoaster of a bi-polar condition. There is always the danger that too soon there will not be a Stephen Fry. Finally, in this introduction, where I am collecting together component materials, I want to refer to the post's title. My only connection with Carol Decker of T'pau is to do with a particular song I wrote called "Give It all You've Got." Originally it was written with Carol in mind because it is the same theme as a lot of T'Pau's songs, and also apart from Suzi Quattro, she was one of the only sassy female vocalists you used to hear back in the 80s. It was just prior to Margaret Becker's emergence with Charlie Peacock. My song was written during the optimistic period of "The Only Way is Up" by Yazz, and it was in this period some of us were discovering the heady atmosphere of multilevel marketing or MLM with Companies such as Amway. Just as America has taken team power to a totally new level in recent centuries, the discovery that marketing needn't always be linear but could be multi layered, revolutionised the whole way sales could be operated. So , in less jargon, instead of having a traditonal marketing force with one sales manager managing a traditional pyramid of a line of salesmen under him....you can have an infinitely(almost) changing layered pyramid of sales people each earning commission from those they have in turn told and explained the product to. This is the simple genius behind 2 tells 2 who tell 2 who tell 2 who tell 2, and pretty soon you are living from a small commission payment coming from an awful lot of people. As people's jaws drop to think that I could ever be involved with such a thing, I'll move on after just these sentences. MLM is mathematics;neither good nor evil. It is democratic, because anybody can have a team under them. When the marketplace becomes flooded, you pick another innovation or productline and start again. MLM cannot function well while each and every individual is living in self for self mode.MLM referred to this as "survival mode". MLM only works in self for others mode, what MLM called "contribution" mode. Having just read "Yes I am" by Norman Grubb, I couldn't believe what these business people were saying. Not to put too fine a point on it, in the late 80s and 90s like Caleb and Joshua we saw the future, but it was ripped away from us because carnal minds labelled the system as evil, without seeing that what was evil was the compounded spirit of self for self that was evil. The system itself just is. 2times 2 times 2 times 2 times 2 times a monthly commission of say £50 from each makes £16000, whether it's a Christian £16000 or a mafia £16000. But that isn't what this post is about. When I came to record "The Blood Song" on my double CD I wanted a section encouraging a response to this, so I wrote to Carol Decker to see if she'd be up for it. I made my position clear, and as a Leftie Labour agnostic/atheist she made hers clear, so it never happened. Helen Burgess of Ellel Ministries helped me instead. The song then leads into a psalm Francois Du Toit quoted a few weeks ago :Psalm 36 Youtube notes:First written for Carol Decker of T'Pau during the heady days of Multi Level Marketing and Yazz "the Only Way is UP" Give It All eventually ended up sandwiched on my CD1 of Early Harvest as part of a long track entitled the Blood Song. It ends with a version of Psalm 36(dated22/7/94) that came during a time of waiting on God.. Band includes Nick Beggs of Kajagoogoo and Iona, and also musical director of Belinda Carlisle on bass,Steve Cyster on guitar, John Graham (Rev James Graham's son and friend of Roy Castle" Recordbreakers") and Helen Burgess of Ellel Ministries sharing vocals with me AC Welch, recorded at River Studios London 1997 and Mango studios Chichester 1998. The Holy of Holies Ephesians 1 and 2 and Colossians 1 are an open proclamation of the secret hidden for ages, namely Christ in Us the Hope of Glory. These passages are Spirit passages. They are Life and Truth. They are not religious niceties. They are reality and Spirit reality is infinitely more real than anything a few molecules with massive holes between them could contain. Our present material world has more gaps in between the substance than substance. They are the FIRST thing that we as mature Christians, by the Spirit, by the supernatural gift of utterance lay in the lives of one day old believers. The incomparable Christ :- Colossians 1:13-29 And because he is who He is, he has caught us up together with Him. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ. It is a gift. It is not of ourselves. It is lavished on us.He has caught us up into "an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth." From a throne point of view the fullness of the times was the point in history when everything turned on its hinge. The hinge was the Cross. The intersection of glory and judgment. We do not say "who will go up for us?" or "who will go down into hell for us". It was a done deal at that precise time. This was the fullness of times. When we get caught up in Christ's reality we are being caught up in what is eternally true : The fullness of the times. And we are told what that is. The summing up of all things in Christ.....hmmmm....things in the heavens....and things on the earth.... like as if they were one thing ? Before this they were never one thing. Psalm 85 In the 70s I got 3 songs from Psalm 84 and 85. I wasn't looking for them. They landed on me ! One was from Psalm 85: 8-9 RSV Bible: Let me hear what God the LORD will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, to his saints, to those who turn to him in their hearts. [9] Surely his salvation is at hand for those who fear him, that glory may dwell in our land. And it goes on [10] Steadfast love and faithfulness will meet; righteousness and peace will kiss each other. [11] Faithfulness will spring up from the ground, and righteousness will look down from the sky. This is connected with the ladder ascending into heaven that Jacob saw, and the subject of this series Psalm 24. Note:1) it is God's NORM that glory may dwell...remain...hang around....on our land. 2) God speaks PEACE to His people. What peace? The peace of Ephesians 1 and 2. The dividing wall of hostility is broken down. He Himself has made peace. Peace between the rebellious person and the right demands of the Law and Covenants. Peace between Gentiles and God. Peace between the sons of the covenant , the Jews, and those who were far off (us Gentiles) who have now been brought near. 3).How can God be sure Faithfulness will spring/is springing up from the ground. Transplanting the seed of the Kingdom is nothing less than Christ Himself. Having come here and overcome as a Man, Jesus comes again in the Person of the Holy Spirit into every single believer....He is faithful, and it is His faithfulness springing forth in believers who learn the truths of grace and the reality of Jesus living our life as us. 4) All these things are NORMAL for those who turn and keep on turning to the Living God who speaks this peace, and they turn in their hearts. It is a heart religion. "Out of the heart flow the issues/ the outflowing rivers of life." The KINGDOM is NOW We don't preach a Kingdom that is future. We preach the Eternal Now. We preach the I AM. God refers to Himself as the I am...because it's like a blank cheque. He can be for us all things. He can be for us what we need for Him to be right now. "The Kingdom is near you even in your mouth." We believe in our heart, we confess with our mouth. The Practice Run In 1972 we asked ourselves some big questions. How do we ever get to the bigger picture of revival? God answered totally (we felt) counter-intuitively by teaching us the way into His Presence through praise and worship. I was thinking this week about my attitude at the time . I think I felt I was doing God a favour by learning to praise Him. But the more we obeyed in this, what started out as a "new liberating activity" soon became a door on a whole new world. A way of being. A conversation. A language. A Presence of the Holy One Himself. The more we learned the less we knew. The cocksure way of presenting ourselves in praise and worship activity gave way to an increasing sense of awe that we'd ever been invited to this party in the first place. Yes definitely the more we learned the less we knew. In Amersham in little house gatherings, then in Paderborn,Germany with a new German friend who had just returned from travelling with Judson Cornwall (trained by Ed Miller) through to a "coincidental" personal arrival later in Emsworth Church where Ed Miller was at that time a frequent visitor , we were learning that there are stages we pass through even in worship meetings. Here, I am talking about meetings with "flow"....not the micromanaged meetings where songlists dominate, or where "anointed" showmen do their entertainment spots. I mean meetings where the I AM God is actually no.1 on the agenda. Helen Rubio has spoken of the 1st , 2nd and 3rd heaven realms where we enter into God's Presence. We enter into His courts with praise. We praise because it is a command. No matter what is going on.No matter how we feel. Not some sort of Hitler command, because we are responding to God first loving us. He instigated our ability to have a relationship with Him. But particularly because we are fallen beings, we awaken from our slumberous state where we slip back into blaming God for our situation, we rise up and speak the truth again...that at all times He truly is worthy of praise. He just is. He is glorious and cannot help it!!! There are often extraordinary battles in meetings at this point, but as we press through this "2nd heaven" waging warfare against soupy,heavy,treacle like atmospheres, it is like a plane rising through the clouds breaking into God's eternal sunshine again. You can often feel exactly the point where a meeting changes gear. And from here we are able to get direction for the rest of the meeting. Now, if we pray for somebody, it is from a position of inner knowing that we are seated with Christ in the heavenly places. It's a different kind of prayer! What I particularly want to highlight is the nature of these Amersham,Paderborn,Emsworth and now Havant Key of David meetings. After praise , so many times there is a time of intimacy "one on one" us and Jesus,but together. In the Argentinian manner we would seek Him on our face. Deep issues in our lives would be touched. Many would cry. Deep spiritual mysteries may suddenly become clear. Stunningly clear direction for problems that have long eluded us.New songs. Paticularly in Emsworth, some of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard came right here among something like ten of us particularly, or from sister churches in this way in Argentina,Spain and France. We never really sang UK songs, we had too many of our own. Gradually we'd be up on our feet again but this time the worship would be purer,deeper...just more awesome. Why I want to highlight this particular section of the meetings is particularly relevant for our discussion of Psalm 24. Remember,this was the practice run. This was the meeting version of what we are now to live fulltime in opening up the gates for our King!!! What is that time on our face before God?Sometimes an extended silence, or being quiet while an instrument plays softly? What is contemplation? Meditation? Let's answer obliquely with this parameter. It's the Holy Place. Not the Holiest Place yet. It's the middle place. Absolutely anyone can enter into the courts of the Lord. Only priests enter the Holy place. We have all been made priests but only in Christ by the Holy Spirit's power. Now in the Holy place there are NO WINDOWS. This is not a place for natural wisdom and light. This is a place of revelation. Of light coming from the candlestick. From the Holy Spirit. This is also the place of the Shewbread. This is the place where 3rd level/father level ministries impart Jesus to those in the second stage of growth. Eating the shewbread, is related to the eating of the Body of Christ. The Blood cuts us off from our past and brings total cleansing to us. Eating the Body of Christ is literally nourishing ourselves with the Truth of who Christ has now made us. We have died. This false illusion of having a separate exstence - being self-empowered, which was really always Satan-I, has died too. We now become increasingly aware of our total Union with Christ. This is where we learn it. This is where we get nourished. This is Christ becoming us, from our insides out. see Psalm 45:13NASV "The King's daughter etc..."This is why, even in these meetings, when we get up again, when we enter deeper into worship, we feel cleaner, transformed, lighter inside. We find it easier to worship unhindered. I want to talk about this precise thing but in the wider context outside of meetings. The Israelites had "practice runs" too. Their wilderness experience was a practice run for the Land. The walk they developed (or didn't) in the place of harsh conditions and lack, built into them the inner qualities needed for going properly into action later. Jericho was a practice run. Yes ofcourse it was also the real thing....but spiritually, having to walk silently round a city six times and on the seventh holler and blow trumpets...was all a practice run for what they would STILL DO spiritually but next time with natural equipment too. They had to learn it was not the natural equipment that was saving them!!! Another spiritual practice run was in Chronicles when the army had to stand still and see the salvation of their God....only allowed to use the method of praise!!! In the practice runs we develop the internal sense of the Presence of God, of our conversation with God which is a language of the interior. It cannot really be articulated. It is like a catching fire on your insides. The REAL THING The real thing is a people who have developed in the Holy Place, the 2nd stage of "young men" as it says in 1 John 2:12 ff, and are now fixed in their knowing. They KNOW that they are Christ in their form, their personalities, their bodies and now they become walking talking representatives of all the furniture and typology that we see in the Holy of Holies, the third stage of growth as Paul describes in the book of Hebrews.They go into action with their armour as in Ephesians 6:10. We take a break while Nancy Gilmore shares some very interesting impressions on Facebook. ********************** "His body is on location for Christ" Nancy Gilmore speaking of Bryan Coatney and his poetry." I see that's what our body is. It is a Temple for the Living God to live in and through on location . . a branch which the sap hatches it's fruit on. The Lord showed me my body once in a vision, I could see through my body, it was transparent. I could see out of both sides of my head with limitless ends, and I saw scales falling off my eyes through the back of my head and down my back with my neck and jaws being fixed in a locked position. . .and I was soaring upward. As God would have it, I just happened to be alone with Norman Grubb as we were talking about being 'whole' people in the Lord. When I saw the vision I said to Norman. OH Norman, I just saw myself in ascension! As calm as could be, he replied. "Oh my dear, that was Christ as you!" END ************************ Every church meeting that runs genuinely in the Holy Spirit is WEEKLY proof that the "place " that Jesus has prepared for us is in fact HERE, NOW. The fullness of the times is here. The Kingdom is here. We just don't perceive it. Which is why Jesus gives us a framework in which to learn it. What would that be? When two or three are gathered in My Name, I will be with them. But when we go apart? When the meeting is over, nothing has changed. The Kingdom is no less among us. It's just our perception. So where is this all happening then? And what are the gates that need lifting up for the King of Glory to come In ? Jesus spoke of roots and soil and WORD. The Parable of the Sower Re- examined Mark 4:1-20 Matthew 13:1-23 Luke 8:1-15 Many of us that were brought up in church would have a cast iron template for this parable. We think in terms of different sorts of people. Even worse than this with religious specs on, we can get to thinking I in my "independent self position "am good soil. I am not like that riffraff over there! There's a word for this: self-righteousness.At the very least this parable is saying we are nothing without "the seed". And this seed is an entirely grace form of seed. We don't earn it. We don't do anything for it. We don't buy it. The only thing we do is Hear it. And obey it , but by faith. A faith that comes from the very Divine seed itself.This is grace. Whether or not this parable does mean different types of people in a born-again grace type understanding, it also is referring to what ONE INDIVIDUAL LIFE has to go through in order to become a John 15 "fruitbearer" At the beginning we have no ears to hear. Yes, we have flappy things on the side of our head, but no inward capacity to hear. The capacity to hear comes by hearing the Word. Sometimes it just seems to be a bit of dry head knowledge. I know a lady who got born again in Brighton through the cult "The Children of God". They only preached John's gospel. She was born again through a supernatural encounter with John 3:16." God so loved the world that He gave His only son, that whosoever believed ON Him should have eternal Life." Everyone else just heard words. She heard Word. And Life became Eternal in her. Two weeks after this, her new Life told her to leave that cult immediately. Later we have Word, but no root. Without root, which is the subject of this post, we have no strength to live that Word. We do a good meeting, but we're not living there full time yet. So ofcourse, to get us living it full time God gives us another BIG ZAP of anointing and everything is wonderful and we live happily ever after...and we marry the prince or princess and the sun shines for ever more! THE END. Nope. That's not what the parable of the sower says. The final stage before we get to pure soil is rocky soil, with harsh jagged weeds and thistles. We are told what these are.This time, not so much the previous persecutions, but some things that are more subtle and insiduous: 1. Life's worries 2. Riches 3.Pleasures For these sort of things, the testings are outside the meeting room. It is NO coincidence at all that there is a whole wave of Christian people worldwide that don't go to church and many are on Facebook. This kind of development doesn't happen anywhere near meetings. This kind of development comes as a Romans 12 "laid down " life goes around in the world and has these great asteroids coming at it Pacman style. Life's worries are what Norman calls things I don't like. Squeezes. Demands being made of me that I know, looking at my inventory ,I am never going to meet. Ouches. Pinches. But only in that environment do I learn they are in fact God's negatives. I wasn't long into reading "Yes I am" when I met a Branhamite. (William Branham - the Last great prophet Elijah kind of thing) Now this guy was a former Pentecostal pastor who now had advanced Parkinson's, and consequently could not hold down his previous position...or rather his flock were certain he couldn't! So abandoned, he was now at the mercy of UK Social security.Isn't the Christian life just so loving! But both he and I believed in healing. I was there tuning many times. I'd seen a lot of healings at the London Morris Cerullo outreaches in the early 90's, so "full of faith" I prayed for him. But ofcourse I wasn't full of faith I was full of enthusiasm from the London meetings, and.....nothing ever happened. Now at this point a "secondleveller" doesn't know how to cope. He's meant to get healed when I pray!!! Now we know God is doing amazing things in this day, using folk in healing as never before. We also know from Barbara Rogerson's testimony that you can be quietly toddling along learning about Christ as you in normal life situations, when all of a sudden someone transmits to you one of the many transferable anointings that are going around these days. The Toronto Blessing or Father's Blessing was highly transferable!!!! Went right round the UK within weeks. So Barbara began to experience a facility in praying for things the second beforehand she'd never have dreamed of tackling. In Bible House (see relevant Google label below)some issues surfaced in people's lives that were then dealt with in days or weeks. When they weren't, most were stumped. We were secondlevellers!!! There were longstanding situations that were prayed through and the breakthroughs were pretty outstanding. However I knew my situation was hopeless in Emsworth and just knew that no leader was going to help. In the end I pressed in myself, and like so many that are on Facebook who have found their answers outside the system, we learned the true meaning of Romans 7 and started to experience our very own Romans 8.

2.Riches and 3.pleasures are very subtle. Because they need not be sin. And many times it is God meaning you to experience these blessings. But as in Judges 7:5, Gideon's 300 distinguished themselves by lapping at the water with cupped hands with one eye open for the enemy, so now God's people are distinguishing themselves by instinctual behaviours that mark them out, give themselves away, as being set apart for the next big operations that are up ahead. Remember, the 30,000 knew of the selection process, the 10,000 had no idea at all!

The key is not to develop behaviours. The Key is to have your Holy Place invaded by the Holy of Holies. To submit to the truths of the "Fullness of Times" and the total victory won for us at the Cross. The Battle for the Holy Place

1.Why? Because if you are born again Jesus has already completely taken over your spirit.In fact according to the Old Testament twofold image of the 2 goats, you and I have died and our false spirit has been driven into the wilderness never to be seen again. You can't get a more graphic picture of annhililation. We are now Christ-us in our spirit centre. Any deliverance issues or problem issues are not here.This is the Holy of Holies. In you it's where Christ dwells.

2.The Problem is moving heaven from the Holy of Holies(the one inside you) out into the rest of your being.God's got a double technique here. Firstly , the experience of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. This is available on the day you believe...,though most Christian leaders never tell you. And this was no different in Acts.On two occasions the apostles had to ask "Did you receive the Spirit when you believed?" And on both occasions it was a negative reply. So the apostles prayed for the saints and in both instances they knew they were filled and they also began speaking in other languages praise unto God. So there is really no room for controversy here. you know when you are filled and you begin doing things that have no natural explanation. (Yes ,I'm aware psychologists try)

This is clearly not the whole thing though, or else why would there be the Parable of the 10 virgins. All ten had oil. Did you get that. All Ten had oil, but there was another supply that only five bothered purchasing. I believe that is what is being talked about in this post and the parable uses the phrase "I don't know you" of the five with insufficient oil.

Be Lifted Up you gates, be lifted up you ANCIENT doors.

A unique thing is happening in our day. The doors that slammed shut inside people from Adam's day onwards are now being challenged. A few saints saw this thing about "separation" and the need for us to be "single-eyed" again, but today it is being broadcast around the world to those who will hear. In Genesis 3 an existence so spurious, so ridiculous was spun by a lying devil, that it has taken until now, millennia later for numbers to see it. There IS NO separate existence as humans. We are either empowered by a sin spirit or by Christ's own Spirit of Life. Where this became complex was as Christians, who having Christ at their centre, still by their own ignorance or stubborn refusal to hear in the Spirit, carry on in the belief that they are self-empowered people with a bit of Holy Spirit anointing on top (if they're lucky). This one false belief system has disastrous consequences. Just as we could not live the Christian life before asking Jesus in, we still cannot until we acknowledge by faith the existence of One sole Spirit operator beneath our unique personalities and bodies namely One Jesus Christ. It is not I (at my spirit centre) who live, it is Christ who lives within me, and the life I now live in the flesh I live by THE FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD.

What is revelation?

Revelation is a deeper knowledge than the sort taught in UK schools. Our surface thought patterns/ ways of thinking are best thought of us an amoral tool. Neither good nor bad. Step by step thinking.

Below this is the mesh, the filter system that drives us, that is where we are really at. What is so confusing for the person particularly locked in the "surface of things" is to have a prophet address the bit underneath. When we see in the Spirit, we see clearer and clearer the bit underneath, and we groan within because we know all the surface talk in the world can go on for years or decades, while the sludge underneath remains untouched. So naturally we can't stand the thought of someone having to go on suffering endlessly....so a prophet tends to want to act impulsively and clear the whole (what he she sees as a total waste of years)thing up and be done with it. Ask any prophetic/creative/artistic type and they'll tell you the disruptions they've caused around these types of issues.

Nowadays we are helped by a (slightly) clearer understanding of how our minds work. First the period after Jane Austin's writings, then Freud and Jung, then onto the 1963 book "The Games People Play" by Eric Berne, and onward to PET brain scans of the current day, people can be helped through deeper issues with courses of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.

But to really know ourselves through and through we Christians say we need the Light of the Holy Spirit. Psalm 36: In His Light we see Light. At this depth surely this is the only safe place for us.

The Holy Place and the Soil

Christians have spent decades attending "healing of the hurts" seminars. Morris Cerullo tends to pooh pooh this type of ministry because of its seeming endless navel-gazing nature. Both are wrong.

Jesus only took 3 years to transplant His life in the twelve disciples. Two things need to happen to move at this speed. We preach the positive of Christ living His life through us. But there has to be an equivalent experience of a Holy Place/ secondlevel period where we at the "young men" stage "take " the overcoming Word of Testimony and loving not our lives unto death make it ours. Become fixed in it. Whether through soaking. Through sensitive Holy Spirit meetings. Through contemplation on our own. In some way, we have to do what Jesus said: Go into your inner room and SHUT your door....and meet with your Father in the secret place. (more on this in the 1989 3rd level message) We have to allow Jesus to sift our soil. He wants to KNOW us. To know our Union with Him. If we are going to be fruitful producers of His seed, that soil needs to be pure, simple soil. Not Jesus and. Single-eyed. Seeing God only .(Rich Novek series) As Carol Decker sang, we need to be careful about "pushing too far"...we don't know what we might set upon our selves....because in this realm, as Jacob found, we can faith in speckled and striped sheep....but it's not necessarily anything to do with God's higher plan for our lives. Yongghi Cho faithed in the biggest church building in the world in the 80s having very nearly a million members.... But that's not how God builds churches... that's how Americans build Ford cars. God builds the Body by that which every joint supplies. He didn't even specify a building or any kind of externals. God is ONLY interested in transferring Word, transplanting seed.

Scrawlings Ezekiel 8 and especially verse 10 So I went in and looked, and I saw portrayed all over the walls all kinds of crawling things and detestable animals and all the idols of the house of Israel. Where are we seeing "more than God"? Fears. Things we don't see God in. Things which appear overwhelming. Riches/pleasures. The Pride of Life. Areas where we are not saying inwardly Psalm 100:3 It is He who made us and not we ourselves. Rich Novek, myself and many others have found it so hard that we've all been in circumstances where even what we feel are the basic male roles of supplier, and success model have seemed to be removed from us....big time. I don't know of anything more embarrassing than having my wife fill in a lot of the gaps in these days. Also, this Saturday I am about to go to my first grammar school reunion after 34 years. Usually only the "successful" ones bother turning up. I'm going for different reasons. Ed Miller used to say beware the churches that are not a mess. They are the ones where the mess is covered over and is not allowed to show itself. Daniel Garcia one of the main leaders now of Los Rios de Vida, Buenos Aires said a great thing. He said, "at the start of a construction project all the mess is on show, but gradually as construction continues, rooms are created to deal with some of the mess so that after a while disruption is managed better." Left-brain intellectual reasoning concerning the events surrounding Jesus and the disciples have little sense of meaning. You have to hear these statements in the Spirit. Jesus was slamming wrong spirits that were uttered by the twelve as they happened. His words would have stung like lightning because they were not aimed at their understanding but were fired at this sub-mesh of "wrong seeing" that is like the scrawlings on the wall of the Temple. Here are some examples: when they offered to call fire down from heaven on a rebellious (as they saw it) town "You don't know of which spirit you are" Wow we're the kiddies we were casting out demons sick were being healed "Careful, remember I saw Satan himself fall like lightning out of heaven itself because of such pride" Keep away kids, only grown ups allowed here "Let the children come for they are a picture of the sort of people that make up the Kingdom." And so on. Similar to male circumcision , this was circumcision of the heart going on here. Equally if not more painful. Literally ripping down some of the scrawlings from the walls of their Holy Place. Conclusion Since the momentous day two or three weeks ago when Daniel Yordy posted his first part of Psalm 24, and I before reading his, had a lot of the revelation above hit me in one fail swoop that very afternoon, perhaps the greatest feature is Daniel's point that our spirit is not buried in our centre but is in all of us. I am not sure about his conclusion that our will is turned over completely to Christ. Probably all our component parts go through stages of yieldedness, maybe three levels of them. But for those like myself and Rich and possibly earlier Daniel, that came to rockbottom over the fact that we just flat out DID NOT WANT the WILL of GOD no matter how much people tried to reason and sermonise...but we discovered these two incredible verses... Rich discovered All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if ON SOME POINT YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY (the hinge), THAT TOO GOD WILL MAKE CLEAR TO YOU . Only let us live up to what we have already attained. (Phil 3:15-16) For me it was the liberation that came from the verse "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." (Philip. 2:13) There are some that make too big a thing of the work of clearing scrawlings off the wall of the mind. There are some that make too light a thing. The work that Francois Du Toit is doing is to point out that the Word is now to us a Mirror of Christ who has come to live His kind of Life in us.He is going to get us there. That is why Christ'sLife in us is called the (definite/firm) HOPE of GLORY and why the FIRST things that we preach are the basis, the foundation for all else:

The APOSTOLIC FOUNDATIONS and certainties of the Epistles

and especially

Ephesians Chapters 1 and 2 and Colossians 1.

Left-brain Post-Notes

1. Andre Rabe's poem and the reference to brokenness try to get us beyond the realm of sermons and note-taking, and the traditional talk of how much "brokenness" is occurring...by getting us to concentrate our inward eyes on the Living Jesus, and a very real relationship with Him
2. Carol Decker's song and the verses of Give It all (my song) are included in order to introduce the idea of a mystical side of our thinking which has the power of drawing into itself what it "sees". That in order to "go for it" (my song again) an internal decision has to be made below our surface thinking.
3. We need to change our thinking when we refer to "world" and be clear which of two Greek words we mean.
4. The reality is that the veil was torn in the Temple from top to bottom supernaturally at the very point that Christ died signifying our total acceptance in the HOLY of Holies. When we become born again,Christ comes into our spirit and expels the previous spirit we lived by.This is effectively our Holy of Holies at our centre.
5. Psalm 85 speaks of the ONE THING that God has joined together out of "things in earth and things in heaven" Ephesians 1 speaks of the peace God has supernaturally created."The walls of hostility are broken down"
6. The Kingdom is NOW. Our "practice run", particularly in the last 40 years has been learning sensitivity to the Presence of God in Spirit-filled meetings. This has become a reality....but what about outside? The Kingdom is just the same....it's just our perception , "our seeing" that changes.
7. The level that our "seeing" occurs is in the unseen layer below our conscious thinking, but above our spirit which remains in constant union with Christ. So what we are calling reality at our "seeing" level is really a lie. This is why Jesus said "If the (very)light that is within you turns out to be darkness ....how great is that darkness...in other words can you see how powerful that darkness has been and how it has eluded detection for all this time.
8. A re-definition of the Parable of the Sower this time as the steps in one life towards becoming a fruitful soil.
9. Going Into our Inner room to relate with our Father and also to take a good look at the scrawlings on our Temple walls, and removing or replacing them as God gives us instruction

I can Have What I want - Paul Anderson Walsh and Chris Welch

Paul Anderson-Walsh of the Grace Project on Facebook
Oh what a divine irony: I've finally realised that I can "have" what I want and having come to that recognition I simultaneously realised that religion (in all its self-help forms) is about adding more and being more but divine union is all about letting go and giving away - How truly wonderful and deliciously divine...
Chris Welch
In the little Ezekiel 8:10 room with all the graffitti written all over it are lots of superfluous things that are "extra" or " more than" the Life of God going on. We call them idols. But really it's a much more daily subject than that. Like the pure soil that Jesus wishes our heart to get back to in the Parable of the Sower....the walls of Ezekiel 8...the inner walls of our soul....are to be pristine and clean so that what can be projected on them are Kingdom things. Things God IS doing. So for example FEARS...if they're all graffitti'd over them...THEY WILL COME TO PASS...Proverbs says fears overtake a man...in other words they will be realised.Basically anything that is scrawled on those walls WILL HAPPEN. Our secret desires and imaginations of our heart.
Good and Bad. Paul McCartney got told off by his teacher for always staring out of the window during lessons. "You'll never amount to anything " he said. Hmmmm...well his daydreams proved his teacher wrong didnt they?
All of a sudden, my Emsworth pastor, Ian McCulloch announced in the 80s when we were praying for revival, that God had shown him his inner self in the form of a "mish kid" (missionary kid) in Argentina, as he was. He would always be window shopping....but always with the inner certainty that nothing in that window was for him...because they were poor missionary people." And God was saying....you are praying for revival but you are like that poor kid, window shopping, never believing any of it is meant for you.
So we begin to see what a huge area idols are. Even idols...or lofty highminded thoughts, let's be frank here, strongholds....which tell us that GOD JUST AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's a lie. A Stronghold. But it has the power to stop God doing stuff. Jesus had to keep asking people's permission. "Do you WANT to be healed?" "Do you want me to heal you?"
The permission layer is an inner programme somewhere at wall level, where the writing is.
When Jesus said "Go into your inner room, and shut the door and meet with your Father in secret" he is saying shut that leftbrain ceaseless traffic....and come into this room where I am in the centre, but let's export a bit of my life to the walls of the room...but let's wipe off some graffitti first.

What Jesus Parables REALLY DO!

 (The secret hitherto undisclosed purpose of what Jesus was really up to)

by Chris Welch  Facebook Note on Monday, 27 February 2012 at 12:00 ·

Joan and I were talking over the Franz Kafka tale I put music and soundeffects to on my CD, called Before The Law.

The reason we say , or some say...!!??, "kafkaesque" is because his stories have entered people's imagination as weird...kind of story versions of Max Escher's drawings of roughly the same period.
So there was Freud, Jung...opening up ways of thinking.(I think Freud is now largely discredited) There was the German painter movement of Expressionism. There was an even weirder movement in music, which was like moving in the other direction...trying to make left-brain music, when it is fundamentally rightbrain...and that was Schonberg doing 12 tone music.

Why is all that relevant now? Well most art movements precede reality by about 50 to 100 years. However you view all its total relevance this far on, the one thing that wasgoing on were early attempts at flagging up that there was a "hidden world" driving the external world. It was early attempts at determining what it was.

Can you imagine a group of intellectual grammar school boys in German lessons being confronted with a Franz Kafka story called Before (in front of, not before in time) The Law.

Brought up to be very quick in leftbrain skills, absolutely none of us had any equipment whatsoever to deal with Kafka's story. So there was a huge questionmark over our heads when the teacher asked us what it was about. And actually Martin Milnes the teacher was quite pleased with this. Because that's how Kafka is.

Anybody who is interested I could share the track and what I wrote to Joan.

But after writing to Joan, and further seeing Nancy's writing last night I was really impacted by this thought yesterday.

Jesus DELIBERATELY told parables.
He could have come out straight with some kind of leftbrain explanation of Ezekiel 8 or something. Ezekiel 8 covers very similar territory to Expressionism...describing the strange inside world of us as a Temple...but a Temple with walls scrawled with gods,idols,fears,things that dominate, things that we "pull towards us by our believing"

But Jesus didnt.
A bit like a Kafka tale, His parables are immediately recognisable as life examples, but they are kind of surreal. They are life as we experience it, but there's a hidden edge to them which is subversive like good art.

It's subversive because it starts attacking the mentality we run from as fallen beings and is described in a lot of detail in Romans chapter 1.

But it is subversive not only in "content"...it is subversive in what the parables actually "do" to the mind. Like a good Buddhist conundrum, like" imagine one hand clapping, or imagine the inside of a ping pong ball".....at surface value they mean very little.
Very unrewarding to left brain machinery.
About as helpful as Graham Kemp's great phrase:
Unless things change they remain the same
http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2012/01/unless-things-change-they-remain-same.html

But what parables do, is force those willing to hear INWARDS.It forces them into contemplation, meditation. The area of us where we wait on God.

There's a strange verse which says :
Faith comes by hearing
hearing by the Word of God.

Leftbrain people convert this verse back into leftbrain speak which is Faith comes by hearing Billy Graham
or Faith comes by hearing another preacher

Leftbrain people twist this two step process to a one step process.

But it is 2 step.
You have to hear the Word in one of its four main forms
1. Read the Bible, but hear the Holy Spirit speaking those words to you personally
2.Hear God stuff, Bible or Holy Spirit stuff through another person writing or talking
3. Hear God speaking somehow into your heart through daily events Psalm 19
4. Through a specific supernatural gift of prophecy written or spoken in a meeting. These often have an amazing Word of Knowledge aspect...ie contain stuff the speaker could not possibly know.

But the PURPOSE of the First Step is to create in you the "machinery" to handle God's Word. So the first bit of God's Word coming to us is like when you download a programme. The first bit downloads the actual installation programme machinery on your insides. This is called "spiritual hearing".
Then once the spiritual hearing programme is installed, it zones in on God's actual faith for things.
The purpose of the Spirit is to reveal to us ALL that has already been given. It's all given, but we havent a dickens clue about what it is,and how it's now available. So the Spirit searched the deep things of God on our behalf, and plonks them in our newly formed "hearing mechanism".

So faith comes by hearing...but hearing itself comes by the Word in the first place.

And the function of parable speech is to get a "leftbrain" locked individual out of his little box, into the area inside him or her where they can start to do something with the Word of God as it comes.

The Proverbs 3 way of speaking about this is
Trust in the Lord with all of your heart
AND DON'T RELY on that leftbrain box of yours, don't rely on that insight,
but Instead
learn a new way of living where you are acknowledging God in absolutely everything
studies,fun,relationships,work,housework, taxes,going out, coming in.....blah blah....

until you are fixed in this new spirit-based way of living. Instead of living as a just me alone individual in the universe.
080808 On,Now,To the Third Level: Unless things change they remain the same
‎080808onnowto.blogspot.com

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    Frederic Fergus-Aldric Delor very thought-provoking but which way do we know our thoughts are going !!!???lol!
    

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    Chris Welch by the fruit
    

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    Chris Welch The two stage faith system is a great key to moving in the supernatural too.I know you were being funny...but i just thought of that.
    

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    Frederic Fergus-Aldric Delor Interesting subject although hard to comprehend in my french little cranium!!!
    

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    Chris Welch There's a special piece of equipment God put in His toolbox for Rothschild controlled English people and French Revolution Voltaire controlled French people...just to handle this very awkward situation.It's called the gift of tongues. Now available in most good churchbuildings in 3 flavours!
    

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    Chris Welch ‎3 saveurs was a joke...dont read anything deep there
    

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    Frederic Fergus-Aldric Delor ah so thta's what it is!...
    

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    Frederic Fergus-Aldric Delor but i knew about that already, just tat we don't explain it the same way. I'm a simple frenchman.
    

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    This is profound truth Chirs, I loved it! The Word of God through which the hearing comes, and then the faith comes, is the person of Jesus Christ, the living Word. Myself and many others were spiritually raised in the deception that it was...See more

    
    

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    Gaye Stradwick I would love to be tagged in your notes!
    

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    Chris Welch Thanks for asking Gaye, I really appreciate that. I'm a bloke. i'm not big on name lists beyond 3, so I'll haveto write everyone down!!
    

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    Gaye Stradwick Haha! I just sent you a friend request...I just happened on this note...if your wall was not open, I would not have been able to comment, not being a friend yet. Anyway, greetings from New Zealand!
    

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This kind comes out only by prayer and fasting? Part 1

by Chris Welch on Monday, 04 July 2011 at 13:58 Facebook note

What do you do when a propos of nothing at all, you are working away and this phrase goes round and round and round?

Then two weeks ago someone like Michael O 'Hare writes the same phrase. And anyway....what does fasting look like from a third level point of view?

Where does this phrase come from ?

The one I was thinking of was in Matthew 17 (although Mark 9 and Luke 9 are kind of similar), in the context of having just come down from the Mount of Transfiguration and the other disciples being unable to cast out a demon from a boy with epilepsy. Later the disciples asked Jesus how it was they couldn't do it.



They'd seen the Spirit move through them on many other occasions, why not this time?

Jesus referred both to the substance of faith and how powerful it is.....even if only the size of a mustard seed.

Then He referred to prayer and fasting. But as I grow in the Lord I'm seeing Jesus might have meant this more generically than specifically. More in a bit.

Fasting in the second level

I'm not sure anyone today fasts more than a few hours in the firstlevel of Christian growth, so I'm starting with the charismatic movement. Key: Books like God's Chosen Fast by Derek Prince and one by Mahesh Chavda etc.

Brits and fasting

Secular Britain only thinks we live from our left brain. Things have improved a tiny quantum since the advent of professors talking about an EQ quotient as well as an IQ quotient. A few weeks ago Richard Dawkins wrote an excellent article in Prospect Magazine on the subject of Common Sense. The jist being that it was becoming less common.

Brits are not Jews, nor meditating or praying Easterners or Muslims , so have no concept of fasting for spiritual strength and insight.To a Brit, spirit is Radio 4 articulation, so is wisdom. If you ask a Brit raised on the all supremacy of the Ape what he means by the sanctity of human life, he will say something like singing a hymn in a crematorium, before burning the hell out of a corpse. There is no framework in a Brit's mind for sanctity of human life. Man is a complicated robot, 2 % more complicated than an ape by DNA. Why would religious thought be important? And why would you fast?

A Brit thinks that you die after 3 days of no food.

The charismatic movement teaches you the truth.

Physical Fasting

About 3-5 days into a water only fast, your body enters into the state of ketosis, a desert survival mode where your metabolism slows, and your body begins to feed on the junkier side of our systems. Toxins exit through our pores, our tongue and urine. Tiny powerful non calorific mints are what Ed Miller advised. Especially when praying for folk...or else it wouldn't just be the Spirit wiping people out!

The first 3 days or so are quite bad, because your stomach is still behaving like it has food in, and continues to try to pump "nothing" through. Brits don't generally get beyond this, so that is all they know about fasting. Until about the 40th day you enter this kind of Time machine state, whereby you experience a bit of what you will be full time in the future.With your physical appetite system largely shut down, you become so much more aware of what your spirit is actually communicating, when it's not full of food.

The Fortieth Day

Matt 4:1-2 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

Now , unlike these idiot leftbrain professors you get in the "learned theological institutions" in England, this last sentence is not stating the obvious. As in," ofcourse he was hungry, stupid"

Wilderness of Judea

This is the little related point of Jesus's whole encounter with the devil.

Around the fortieth day, our bodies have finished scavenging around waste toxins and fat in our cells, and begin attacking the bodies' vital organs and breaking down the rest of the body. This is the dangerous level that prison protesters reach when refusing food. Death becomes increasingly likely. This is why Moses' stint on Sinai was so supernatural!! And up until this point Jesus had been strengthening Himself in the Father, as you do when fasting. It was the fortieth day when His battle encounter began. By now, death was looming closer. And incredible weakness.

The other point about all this is this phrase: Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. We follow the Spirit into these kinds of thing. WE DON'T DECIDE. Or else we're just performing some empty religious activity....some works activity.The scriptures describe Jesus getting up early or praying late alone, but NOTHING more is said about fasting on any other of the three years' ministry, or anything else particularly in the 30 years before this. Which highlights even further the stupidity of Anglicans and Catholics playing silly people every year for 40 days. OK, so how come Jesus never did it twice? And" as He is, so are we in the world?"

But I was forgetting ofcourse for a moment there that Anglicans and Catholics are actually more holy than Christ .
NOT.
No, I suppose they would say we are less holy so need to do it more.

All Anglicans and Catholics desperately need a DETOX in order to remain sane on planet earth. Anglicans Anonymous and Catholics Anonymous."Hi there, I'm Gerry,and I'm a Catholic....."


The thing is, when I'm tuning for theological students, they actually know the irony of their situation. They would laughingly repeat this same joke to me with a knowing look. But guess what....If I address their "Ezekiel 8:10 scrawlings" their "religious stronghold and security" from my innards by the Spirit of God as a prophet....(which is , incidentally, all a prophet is doing...so anyone can sign up to be one.).... their faces turn ashen, their pleasant demeanour vanishes, and you can see the spirit manifesting through their snarling hissing teeth..... DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH ME.....YOU....YOU.... PIANO TUNER.....WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME....me,THE EARNEST THEOLOGY STUDENT.......WHAT TO DO WITH MY LIFE....? well that's the underneath version, it's usually a horrific grimace.

Ofcourse I could reply in the natural, "well how about fixing your life on the real Jesus?", but by now I've lost them anyway.....and probably the next tuning in 6 months time.

Third Level View of Fasting

Points so far -

To fully "get" fasting you have to hold loads of scriptures simultaneously in the Spirit.

Here are two of the clues in the note so far.

1.Led by the Spirit

2.Going down to the Wire with your life

Those who are led by the Spirit are the sons of God......NO one else . Ouch. That's a zonker.Do with that what you will. Hmmmm. Time to be baptised in the Spirit? I'll say no more. Just this.

In San Diego it just isn't good enough to be able to "imagine" if your air conditioning is working. You've really got to know your air conditioning is working as summer approaches. My Skoda at the moment is....hmmmm...."I think it's working Christine....I vagely think I feel something" But this is not San Diego , this is the UK.

You don't say, "I think I've been baptised in the Holy Spirit......I think my Spirit Air conditioning is working."

You say something, you do something, and it has Spirit effects....of permanence! None of this lazy evangelical approach, realising the Bible gives them no option anyway, so they hurriedly screw their theology up to great heights, and usually their eyes, and say....

I've been born again, so....so.....well......I must be baptised in the Spirit.... The last bit is said snappily beteween clenched teeth.

OK then. What difference have you noticed since you trekked the outer court corridor of the heavenly Temple, past the brazen altar where you accepted Jesus, past the Laver where your conscience was sprinkled absolutely clean with the washing of the Word....Jesus Himself came in as your Mirror.....

and baptised in the Spirit now, you entered into the Holy Place, where there is NO NATURAL LIGHT anymore,

WHAT DIFFERENCE DID YOU NOTICE as you passed from the outer courts to the outside part of the Inner court of the Lord.

What?

Absolutely nothing. No difference whatsoever?

Well no way have you experienced the Baptism, the Inundation of the Spirit in your life. Now go get some....or you just won't understand a thing about the Living Church of Christ from here on in.

Oh...you don't want to go further in? Well I thought you did. Sorry. It really is your choice. But, anyway, remember the scripture:"those who are led by the Spirit are the sons of God."

The scriptures...

By the time of Isaiah 58 fasting was a regular Jewish practice and concept. The whole race had prayed and fasted in the desperate threat in the book of Esther. Isaiah 58 is a prophetic corrective, to reconnect with the heart of God.

It's not just an empty ritual to twist God's arm with...it is a dynamic tool whose inner heart and thrust is not to gain some "static" position of a mythical level of holiness. Charismatics please note!! Since holiness is a Person who does NOT share space with you, and lives through you as you.

No the dynamic in God's heart is to set creation free....to bring justice....a loosening of the oppressed. The Spirit blows. He moves. He is dynamic. Never still. "And for this purpose was Christ made manifest, that He may destroy all the works of the Evil One." (What, even Anglicanism?)

We can fast, we can tithe mint and cumin,but our Christianity is never locking horns in the Spirit, and out like a river, from the throne, in actual 3D reality, with the every day mess of planet earth.

Notice Christianity does not like some human task force say.....oy.....you Mafia....hoppit. It begins in the Spirit by binding the Italian religious,political and moneylevel symbiotic hookup that is the Catholic Church, the Italian Government and the Deathly Mafia. It goes behind the scenes first, to completely wipe the floor with every spiritual power that has tied these knots. We don't begin, as many are doing in America, at simply rearranging the outer furniture on the Titanic.

But here is the rub....and the connection with what is to come in this note

Having begun with a process that involved our identification with Christ, which in those days took decades,
Mother Teresa and

Lydia Prince

"Did what was in their hands to do".
But it wasn't the "in their hands to do" that had the power. Or else any idiot charity worker would be smashing evil apart, and making permanent changes on planet earth. The power at work in these two was that manifest outwardly in fairly ordinary activities, allbeit sacrificial ones, these two had already done something in their hearts. They had fully identified with the Galations 2:20 life of It is not me that live any more....

Sorry....you're too late...it's Christ.

It was this identification that was driving a LIFE LEVEL IDENTIFICATION -

A LIFE LEVEL FAST.

Mother Teresa wasn't a charity worker per se.She was doing what Christ was doing through her in India.
Lydia Prince was not a charity worker per se. She was looking after orphans in Jerusalem as Christ as her.
This is something so so so so different from standing in the O2 centre for 2 hours, rattling away in tongues and calling this intercession . No , like Jesus in the wilderness, this is your life down to the wire. If Jesus never says another word, you are there stranded in the thing. You're risking your own concept of what your life should be on what you are claiming is the Spirit by you. When all other religious authorities are probably claiming you are being ludicrous. What a waste! And your ministry was looking so promising!!! (Actual phrase was said to Watchman Nee)

So do you understand now why the third level people can be quite dismissive of fasting from food? Or 2 hours in a charismatic intercession conference?

In the third level you've signed up already to God's total life programme. You have no life. Well as an independent being. The whole thing was a Genesis 3 delusion anyway.

The truth is there is only ONE LIFE in the Universe , and this One LIFE has a Cross in it.

So thirdlevellers are the only normal people on earth.

Everyone else is still fighting. Still in the delusion that there is anything else.

"Those who are led by the Spirit are the sons of God " is the rather radical but true phrase that THIS ALONE IS THE CHURCH, THE ONE BODY IN THE EARTH, made up of many bodies, laid down in a permanent Isaiah 58 SELF FOR OTHERS FAST. All the rest of it just isn't the Church. It says so on the tin lid.

Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God .

Jesus said Luke 11: 23“He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters."

Verses like this make no sense when you are a charismatic, because you see more than one. You see God out there, and tons of other lives all rushing about doing manifold things. Then Jesus comes along and says stupid things like there are only 2 forces, or 2 lives really. A charismatic just stands there scratching his head for years, no make that decades.

He cannot see that who we are is spirit, because all he sees is surface stuff, which is soul and body level, and ofcourse at this level there are 6 billion unique individuals. No, at the level Jesus is training us to see, there are only 2 lives, and one of those is a ripoff merchant. The devil's life is really God's life inverted, that is the devil had God's own self for others life, but he inverted it into a self for self type of life. Me for me. All of mankind operates from this selfish default, unless briefly choosing otherwise....and the Bible even describes this as for selfish motives, or unless at a spirit level, the true inner choice level, we make a change.....what we commonly refer to as asking Jesus in. But a charismatic doesn't really get that Jesus shares this spirit space with no man, booting out our satan-I infested spirit, taking it down into death with Him, and raising it up totally new in Himself. So to Satan now, since the Cross every human being is a walking blasphemy and he hates us totally, and wants to keep every human from ever discovering this fantastic new status that was won for everyone on the Cross.

So this laid down life at our core is a very much simpler existence than looking around at surface level and working out who believes the same as me, which is what the disciples were trying to do like good charismatics here in Mark 9:30

Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. 40“For he who is not against us is for us."

If you are simply following the Hub of the Wheel of the Universe, who is Jesus, the Eternally laid down Life of the Lamb,

how is it that you as spokes of the Body of Christ wheel won't all meet in the Holy of Holies?

Welcome to the life of the Fast. We won't all be called to the same outer forms of commissioning, but if like Psalm 84 "In your heart is the highway to Zion" exactly what is your problem with me? Why are you keeping your distance?

The only thing left for any of us are the Ezekiel 8:10 scrawlings that are usually hidden from our own sight, but in Body Life are the little splinters that we can tear out of each others "single eye", once the Big Log of our "independent self delusion has been dealt with". Don't anyone think these splinters are small in power though.

Just as faith the size of a mustard seed is all you need to blast a mountain,

these Ezekiel 8:10 scrawlings are the Psalm 24 Ancient Doors whereby we let the whole of the Enemies forces in to start with.

And the last scrawling has the power of the total removal of Death off Planet Earth. So don't scoff at the littleness of this note. You just haven't understood it yet!!!