Showing posts with label Ezekiel 34. Show all posts
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Monday, 26 March 2012

FOT18 - The Feast of Restoration

At first glimpse, this will seem a familiar phrase to people in 1970s and 80s churches.However it is not the same thing at all. This is a thirdlevel Feast, and part of the complete restoration is the revelation that Christ IS OUR LIFE. It's not systems. It's not pyramids.
It's Christ, the Living Christ, in whom, literally the whole thing hangs together.
We build in the Melchizedek Order .




Feast of Tabernacles - George H. Warnock
CHAPTER 13 - TABERNACLES - THE FEAST OF RESTORATION

As we have considered the spiritual significance of the glory and power and wisdom of Solomon's kingdom, so now let us consider the spiritual significance of the days of restoration, following the captivity. Both temples and both periods of history are applicable to our day: Solomon's day speaking of the glory and power and wisdom of the Church; and the days of Restoration showing in what manner the lost glory is to be restored.
As for the days of Restoration, it will be of particular interest and profit to us if we consider carefully the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, and Zechariah--because these four books deal particularly with the return of the remnant to Jerusalem following the captivity, and their attempts to restore the walls and the temple and the order of religious worship. Ezra was a priest; Nehemiah was the governor of Jerusalem; and both Haggai and Zechariah were prophets of the Lord who encouraged the builders in the great tasks which lay before them.

THE FIRST FEAST OF TABERNACLES AFTER THE CAPTIVITY
The remnant who had returned from Babylon to Jerusalem were determined that all things should be restored according to the original pattern. And so they kept the Feasts of the Lord also in their due season. "They kept also the feast of tabernacles, as it is written, and offered the daily burnt offerings, as the duty of every day required" (Ezra 3:4). They could not keep the feast in its fullness, for the foundation of the house of the Lord was not yet laid, but they observed the pattern as best they could, and God honoured their faith. And now as the first rays of this glorious Feast begin to appear on the eastern horizon, we have every reason to rejoice--knowing that the days of restoration are here. And little by little we can see how the pattern is being unfolded before our eyes.

THE PEOPLE ASSEMBLE AS ONE MAN
"And when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves as one man to Jerusalem." (Ezra 3:1).
This, of course, is the foundational truth of this whole revival which God has given the Church, and one of the first revelations that came forth: that God would now at this time bring His people together to form one body. At the beginning it was hoped that the Christians everywhere would catch the vision, and that before long the whole Body of saints would become one vital, living organism, united together in the bonds of the Spirit unto one common purpose. But it is becoming apparent that only a remnant are returning to Jerusalem. The vast majority are content to remain in Babylon, for they have grown up in that state, and know nothing of the glory of God which once rested mightily on the Temple of God. They are prosperous enough; and the venture which a few fanatical Israelites have started upon is so utterly hopeless and fantastic that they will have nothing to do with it. Just imagine a small group of Israelites, with no natural resources (for they were a captive people), and very little perhaps in the way of education or business and administrative ability--venturing off to a land they had never seen, to a city utterly wasted and desolate, and starting to erect a temple comparable to Solomon's! And so the majority, the vast majority, were content to remain in Babylon, with only about fifty thousand of the multitudes in Israel thinking it worth their while to go up and start work on the temple.
We know God has a great and eternal purpose for all His precious saints, and when His plan is revealed we shall glory in the wisdom of God who "worketh all things after the counsel of His own will." But it is becoming increasingly evident that the pattern of the remnant in Israel who returned to Jerusalem is the immediate pattern for this hour. And as then, so now, a group of people who have really seen the vision of what God is doing, have assembled together as one man. It is the vision of the Body of Christ. It is the vision and assurance that there must arise out of the dust of Jerusalem a Holy City, a Beautiful City, and a Temple not made with hands--a glorious Church without spot or wrinkle. "Awake, awake, put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city; for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem..." (Isa. 52:1, 2). This whole passage speaks loudly of this day and hour in which we live, when the glory of God is about to be restored to the once-holy city of God, even the "heavenly Jerusalem." "Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion. Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the Lord hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem." (vs. 8, 9).

THE FOUNDATION OF THE TEMPLE LAID
"And when the builders laid the foundation of the temple of the Lord, they set the priests in their apparel with trumpets, and the Levites the sons of Asaph with cymbals, to praise the Lord..." (Ezra 3:10).
The first feast of Tabernacles that they observed was before the foundation of the Temple had been laid. Therefore the real meaning of the Feast was lacking; but it did promise great things to come when the days of restoration were over. That was in the first year of their return from captivity. Now the second year had rolled around, and God had enabled them to lay the foundation for the temple. There was great rejoicing, therefore in the camp of Israel, to know that God had prospered their work, that the foundation was laid, and that the work was progressing. Hence there was cause for great rejoicing.

THE PRAISE OF THE MUSICIANS
"And they sang together by course (or, alternately) in praising and giving thanks unto the Lord; because he is good, for his mercy endureth for ever toward Israel. And all the people shouted with a great shout, when they praised the Lord, because the foundation of the house of the Lord was laid." (Ezra 3:11).
It is not without Divine purpose, therefore, that the ministry of spiritual song and music is being restored to the Church. Actually it is the voice of prophecy. We read, therefore, "Moreover David and the captains of the host separated to the service of the sons of Asaph, and of Heman, and of Jeduthun, who should prophesy with harps, with psalteries, and with cymbals..." (1 Chron. 25:1). No doubt there was usually prophetic singing accompanied by the musical instruments; and together it formed this great prophetic orchestra and choir. And because it is the voice of prophecy, that is why there is a work of deliverance wrought when songs are sung in the Spirit, or when instruments of music are played in the Spirit. David, you will recall, drove the evil spirit away from Saul, as he played upon the harp. It is the voice of God; and it is a ministry, as it was in the case of the sons of Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun. Asaph means Gatherer; Heman means Faithful; and Jeduthun means Choir of Praise. What a wonderful description of what is generally called the Heavenly Choir. "The Choir of Praise!" Sung by those who are "Faithful" in their ministry; and to "Gather" the saints together in the unity of the Spirit.
It is not difficult, then, for us to understand why the Choir of Praise has been restored to the Church. The Temple service is being restored. The saints are singing "by course,"--that is, "alternately" in prophecy one to one another, because once again the Lord's Temple is being restored.

WHY THE REJOICING?
"And all the people shouted with a great shout, when they praised the Lord because the foundation of the house of the Lord was laid." (Ezra 3:11).
The present work of the Holy Spirit in re-establishing the Temple of God and its spiritual order of worship, has really just started. But we can thank God, nevertheless, that the pattern has been revealed, and that the foundation has been laid. Perhaps it is not too evident to some, because the building is just under construction. It is not our purpose to try to prove that the foundation of apostles and prophets has been relaid. Nor is it really the minister's responsibility to prove any doctrine to anybody. His duty is to minister the Bread of Life to the hungry. If they can receive it, they will be nourished: if they cannot, then perhaps we could administer the sincere milk of the Word that they might grow thereby. According to every man's ability to receive, and their stature in Christ--so may God enable us to minister the words of life. And let us realize that we are sent to feed Christ's sheep, and nourish His people--and not to fill them with doctrines and theories which will not profit. These things, therefore, are written only for those who can receive them; and for none others.
We realize, therefore, that perhaps there are very, very few who can discern the foundation of the temple being relaid in this day. And of course it is most difficult to see a newly laid foundation, for it is usually almost obscured amidst the concrete forms and the supports and the heaps of broken stones and boards that cover the ground. But the Choir of Praise continues to exalt the Lord, and the saints continue to sing one to another in prophecy, because they can see that the foundation has been laid, and the temple is beginning to take shape.
"Now, therefore, ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built (literally, are being built) upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone." (Eph. 2:19, 20).
"And God hath set some in the church, first apostles (1 Cor. 12:28).
The time is at hand when God will vindicate who His ministers are, and what their place is in this new Temple. For these ministries are not by human-appointment, nor by self-appointment, but by Divine appointment. Until now perhaps there has not been any great need for recognized leadership. We have been in the wilderness; and you really do not need a guide until you start travelling through strange territory. But those days are about to end. We stand on the brink of Jordan, Before us lies a good land, a great land, a rich heritage in the Spirit. But it is strange territory, As of old, therefore, God is establishing ministries which shall lead the way across Jordan; and the people must be prepared to follow.
"And it came to pass after three days, that the officers went through the host, and they commanded the people, saying, when ye see the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then ye shall remove from your place, and go after it." (Josh. 3:2, 3). This is a new way. We have not passed this way heretofore. And with this new way, there shall arise new dangers, new problems, new perplexities. Such terrible days are ahead, and such deception shall be manifest by the adversary, that the saints must know who God's ministers are that they might follow them into this good land. Said Paul, "Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ." (1 Cor. 11:1).

GREAT OPPOSITION
It would be most enlightening if we could take time to examine in detail the opposition that was raised--against the faithful remnant who laboured on the second temple; for it is a clear picture of what is now transpiring, and what shall yet transpire, as this new Temple begins to rise into her glory, First there was the opposition of the people who dwelt there in the land. Their request was, "Let us build with you: for we seek your God, as ye do." (Ezra 4:2). But Zerubbabel discerned their true nature, and refused to accept their help. No doubt he was condemned for not co-operating with this noble gesture, and this desire for fellowship. But Zerubbabel's action was certainly confirmed in what followed: for immediately they sent letters to the King of Persia, demanding that the builders be forbidden to continue their work. Their argument was quite a modern one: "Be it known now unto the king, that, if this city be builded, and the walls set up again, then will they not pay toll, tribute, and custom, and so thou shalt endamage the revenue of the kings." (Ezra 4:13).  
There are many "kings" in the Church today, collecting toll and custom from the people, and the restoration of the Church is going to bring about their downfall. In the first place, they were never ordained of God. In the second place, instead of shepherding the flock they are fleecing them. In the third place, when the Church is properly established there will be local elders in each assembly to guide the flock, and there will be no need for a permanently residing pastor. Every minister of God should carefully examine himself in the light of God's controversy with the shepherds of Israel, and make his calling sure:
"Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed; but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them." (Ezek. 34:2-4).
There seems to be very few real, genuine shepherds, who are prepared to lay down their lives for the sheep. It is no wonder, therefore, that the false shepherds do not want to see the Temple of God restored, and the gates set up! Their revenue shall be endamaged when this happens. And so they persuaded the authorities in Persia to forbid the progress of the work; and the work ceased.

THE PROPHETS ENCOURAGE THE BUILDERS
Just how long the work ceased on the temple we do not know. And just how long the work on this Temple is going to be hindered, we do not know. Perhaps God in mercy will do a quick work. Nevertheless, despite all the opposition and all the obstacles, the work shall continue. Has the Lord not raised prophets to encourage the builders, just as He did for Israel? With the builders, we are told. "Were the prophets of God helping them," encouraging them in their task. (Ezra 5:2). Is it not the purpose of prophecy to speak unto men words of "edification, and exhortation, and comfort?" (1 Cor. 14:3). Edification! Building up! It is the work of prophecy to edify and build up the saints as they labour in this holy Temple of the Lord. The opposition will continue from within as well as from without--but the prophets of God are there to exhort and comfort the saints in every hour of trial.
Once again there were efforts to hinder the work, and the matter was referred to Darius, but permission was granted and the work continued. In fact, he even ordered that timber and salt and wine and oil be given the builders to help them in their task. And so they built and they prophesied... "And they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo." (Ezra 6:14).

HAGGAI'S PROPHECY
Haggai's prophecy is most enlightening, in view of all these facts that we have mentioned. For Haggai and Zechariah were God's special prophets sent to Jerusalem to encourage the builders in their work.
His first task was to cause the people to realize that the hour had really come for the House of God to be built. The problem is the same today: "This people say, the time is not come, the time that the Lord's house should he built." But God gave Haggai a simple word of wisdom, and it was enough to settle that argument. "Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your ceiled houses, and this house lie waste?" (Hag. 1:2, 4). You have your comfortable churches; and, of course, that is all right! You have beautiful carpets, and tapestry, and stained -glass windows, and beautiful furniture... there is plenty of time for that. But you have no time for the restoration of God's beautiful House, the Temple not made with hands, the Temple made of "living stones." Is it not a fact, a solemn fact, that the beauty and glory of the Church of Christ has been sacrificed for the natural beauty and refinement of our places of assembly? The people have no objection to this extravagance whatsoever. But let a group of saints declare their intention of restoring the walls of the heavenly Jerusalem and seeking God's face for a restoration of early apostolic power and glory and unity in the congregation of the saints, and there is no time for it!
"Now therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways." (vs. 6). And well might the Church of Christ consider her ways. "Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages, earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes." (vs. 6). It seems almost perplexing and mysterious sometimes when we consider the ways of the Church. We read of great revivals, of mass healing meetings, of thousands getting converted or filled with the Spirit, But when the hour of testing comes, where is all this glory of which we have boasted? How many really continue to show evidences of salvation when the revival passes on to the next town? How many retain their healing when they get back home? How many keep filled with the spirit? We are not suggesting that these great Healing or Gospel ministries are not genuine. There will be the false, of course; but God has raised up mighty ministries in the power of the Holy Spirit, to bring healing or salvation to the nations; and much has been and is being, accomplished compared to what we have seen in the past. But little, very little compared to what these ministries should produce. We looked for much; and then God blows upon our efforts in the great fanning-mill through which we all must pass, and where is the wheat? Does it not seem to have disappeared with the chaff? And, "Why? saith the Lord of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house." (Hag. 1:9).
The implication is clear, and the indictment against sectarianism is with no uncertain voice. If the Body of Christ is betrayed for the sake of base gain, or for one's own Personal interest in this sect or that, then all our vaunted claims to revival and great mass conversions are empty. Is it not true, that the people assemble together to co-operate in some great mass effort for revival, and after it is all over they run "every man unto his own house..."? Back they go to their little sect and attempt to build it up with the new converts brought to birth by the revival effort. And God blows upon their work by His sifting, testing, trying Spirit; and "Lo, it came to little." Hence the drought, the lack of spiritual power and blessing; the absence of any real fellowship with the saints or unity of the Spirit; and the reason there is no latter rain. God has called the drought, and therefore at His word the Heavens have withholden their dew.

ZERUBBABEL FACES THE CHALLENGE
Zerubbabel (who was in charge of the building of the second temple), and Joshua (who was the high priest), and the remnant of people, obeyed the voice of God as spoken by the prophet, and "they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts." (Hag. 1:14). We have already considered in some detail the story of their labours and their problems. But God was with them.
Zerubbabel means "Sown in Babylon," and Joshua is the Hebrew for "Jesus." Is it not true that we have all been planted in Babylon, that great city, the city of all manner of abominations, religious and otherwise? But some have heard the call, "Come out of her, my people" and have been transplanted into another land, the land of their true calling. "Ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven." (Heb. 12:22, 23).

HAGGAI PROPHESIES ON THE LAST DAY OF THE FEAST
It has been assumed that Haggai was probably born on a Feast day, because his name signifies "Feast of Jehovah." However, an amazing passage of scripture in his prophecy reveals that Haggai gave utterance to one of the Church's choice promises on the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles. Therefore he was truly named "Haggai," which signifies "Feast of the Lord." One might wonder why the Scriptures go into such detail at times, in giving us dates and seasons which seem to be meaningless to us. God no doubt has a great plan in it all, and as our eyes become enlightened to the riches of His Word, many delightful surprises are there to greet us. And so we read, "In the seventh month, in the one and twentieth day of the month, came the word of the Lord by the prophet Haggai, saying..." (Hag. 2:1). The seventh month, and the twenty-first day of the month! In other words, in the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles!

Wednesday, 2 February 2011

Two Facebook Notes on Shepherds - Chris Welch

Ezekiel 34....Shepherds Today
by Chris Welch on Monday, 24 January 2011 at 15:22


1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying , 2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy , and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds ; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

This is a bit Steve McVey. Nothing wrong in that though.

I think we are clear that the outer context of this passage has changed. It has changed since I was a Christian in a Baptist Church too. But the demon spirit lives on, and operates in current situations.

Let's specify the obvious sort of things Watchman Nee, followed by Norman Grubb would have said.

The Christian Life is about my death and resurrection in Christ, 2000 years ago. The New Covenant is not a set of even more stringent laws for those who found the Old Covenant Laws boring. The New Covenant is about our total inability to keep those laws, and in our despair to realise that God has thought of all this ahead of time, and

plunged us into His death, then bound us up with Himself in a resurrection exactly like unto His. If we call upon the Name of the Lord we will be saved. But this "savedness" is nothing like you hear preached in most churches. It's HUUUUUGE. It has connected you with the centre of everything big time...GOD HIMSELF and the central plans for this Earth.It is now nolonger you that live, but Christ who lives within you.

The ministry gifts are placed into the Body of Christ to implant this message into you. You may say, well, I've just read it. But God's words are Spirit and Life, and when transmitted either directly to you from Himself, or via Holy Spirit gifted servants, they will change your life completely from the inside out. Jesus said in John 4, from now on it is about worship in Spirit and Truth. if it's not true and real for you yet, you need just to hang around the Body of Christ a bit.

I feel challenged about this whole pastor/shepherd area.


There are naturally caring people around. They are nurturers.It is natural for them to gather people around them, make sure they are OK. This is not the Holy Spirit gifting of pastor. It may use some of these aspects. But any ministry in the Spirit does the above work: getting people to see WHO they are in Christ....that it is Christ in them as them, and how the faith life operates.

When I see sheep wandering.....I don't care if they are supposedly in a particular church, under this mythical delusion of a pastor pyramid....I just "see" the wandering and like Jesus looking over Jerusalem, grieve.

verse 6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.



So Ezekiel 34 in our current context is sheep wandering around lost, uncared for, whether "outwardly" they are in a great stadium church, or here in a good church like Havant.

People who have had Christ implanted in them properly do not wander. They have definition. Purpose. Strength. God's vision. They are properly knit into the Spirit-built Body of Christ......and not necessarily, as the Apostolic Network Pyramids used to preach....knit into some outward structure that everyone can stand back and marvel at , saying "Wow, this Terry Virgo fella builds great networks....or this Gerald Coates geeza sure makes trendy housechurches with disco lights an' all!." Outwardly, a lot of times it could be a mess. Like Jesus' operation during the Cross weekend. Or the first church at Jerusalem, when the Jews blasted it to smithereens. Now in the Spirit, this was always bang on cue. This is the genuine church being formed in different outward manifestations.

Makes no sense to someone who thinks in bricks and mortar and Pastor pyramids.

A shepherd gets Christ into folk, then moves on to fresh folk....or whatever else Christ is doing through him or her.

Verse 2 above is disturbing and the demon spirit lives on.

This is an "office " of shepherd. Paid. Actually paid well. You can't take the analogy too far, because I don't think any shepherds are actually doing a Hannibal Lecter, and eating the people.

The abuses of the Anglican church were so clear, that the1800s Brethren denomination reacted totally and forbade paid ministry. Everyone held down a job. It was making law, what St Paul did voluntarily to give him complete freedom to work unfunded in new areas.

Are we there again?

Paid ministry , like the unscriptural positioning of ONE pastor over a Body of people is self-perpetuating, in the same way that we all employ people in Brussels to frame new laws, then complain at the amount of laws.

Like that's what we paid them to do, dummies!!!! So they don't shirk their work and frame laws!!!!

Pastors have to think what they do next to justify being paid. They also cannot allow for any other ministries alongside, because some Pyramid apostle has installed them at the head of a local pyramid, and to do anything else would be disrespectful!!!!

You have not so learned Christ!

True pastors

There are pastors all over the place in the Body of Christ.

Most of them shut out from operating. Thankfully the Spirit of the Lord is now speaking Ezekiel 34 all over the Earth, getting us to wait upon Him for the wineskins of the church. A church, every church, raised up in the Spirit has loads of pastors, who pastor naturally. UK history is littered with abuse of power according to this scripture.

For example let's name a place. The King's Church High Wycombe shut down Mr Cain, who in turn was more or less forced to set up the independant church Shalom. Shame on you King's Church.

The King's Church High Wycombe shut down a beautiful house group of quite a size under Mr Ron Knight. Many were so bruised they never attended church again. If any of you know me, then you know Ron. Ron never built around himself, he built us into Jesus. If any of you consider me to know anything in Jesus, know that I was privileged to be squeezed into Ron's life during my teenage. And it was he, 40 years ago that was teaching us about Christ in me. Everyone else was teaching about "things that you do" to grow. He was teaching WHO we believe , in order to grow. So once agin King's Church, shame on you. And as I have never been connected with you, I say quite impartially, I hope this goes into all the world about you. Now deal with God about it.

True pastors have the Spirit blueprint of the building - in their heart

Psalm 85:

5 How blessed is the man whose (H)strength is in You,


In whose heart are the (I)highways to Zion!

6Passing through the valley of [a]Baca they make it a spring;


The (J)early rain also covers it with blessings.

Compare verse 6 above with Ezekiel 34: 26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing. 27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.

Ezekiel 34 :4 says ......neither have ye sought that which was lost ; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.

The situation i recently found myself in where leaders tried to step in to correct a rift was handled so badly it caused me to really listen to the Spirit to see what was going on.

While it was going on the leaders did not contact us, keep us in the picture. The friend who still gets depression quite badly could have topped herself....we just did not know. You can read my findings here:

http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2010/11/ocd-church-believing-yourself-into.html

So in this situation it wasn't that NOTHING was being done

it was that a person's life was being addressed by committee

without direct heart contact in it all.

This then opened my eys to the whole operation.



Shepherds are shepherds from the heart. But not just compassion for people. That's just a common human trait, strongest in the caring folk among us. Shepherds have an internal map of the Kingdom in their heart.

They don't preach the New Testament as if its just a fresh lawbook....something grittier to get your teeth into. The WORD they impart, which is the New Covenant Word of Christ living His life as us is so powerful

that over time we see a Romans 8 kind of result....a bit of "all creation waiting until the sons come into their own" and we see a small part of creation turn around.



The Fake law gospel doesn't turn any keys in the lock. There is no outside mirror effect. When the Word happens, when true shepherds flow, the end result is showers of blessing....trees of fruitfulness.All these centuries Israel has not blossomed. When the Jews returned, there was a turnabout naturally. I know this is only a start.

When the community at Darmstadt showed me around, I gazed at some redeemed features. This is only a start.

We can't fake that bit.

Also we can't fake when sheep are meandering all over the place in depression and sickness....this cannot be covered over, or explained away.....this is the result of Ezekiel 34 poor shepherding. The demon spirit of torment lives on.



It's time to be defined church. Accept no lower standards.

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Cheryl Lowry, Paula MakeSparkles Chambers, Cindi Estep and 2 others like this..
André van der Merwe Loved this Chris, thanks for tagging me!
24 January at 15:36 · LikeUnlike.Chris Welch thx...it's so great to get feedback....and so fast
24 January at 15:37 · LikeUnlike.André van der Merwe Like me, I could sense you'd also been hurt and lied to by religion in your life.

Your words ring true and clear in my heat!
24 January at 15:40 · LikeUnlike.Nancy Gilmore ‎... a voice crying in the wilderness, make straight the way of the Lord.
24 January at 16:24 · LikeUnlike.Chris Welch Probably the big thing capital T is to sell all you have for the 70s move of God only to learn it was only the "young man"stage.Hopefully more the hurt somethong positive is co£ming thru .Another book alerted me to the fact that Song of Sol...omon could have 3 people in it.Jesus,the Shulammite and organisational religion.It seems Galations shows we have to be hurt to learn Spirit maturity. Abraham had to go thru the Hagar incident to be fully clear on the child of promise.Other Christians have wanted to pray for my" hurt", but I think it's just the pain of learning the True from the false.It offends other believers....but I think this mountain bounding hind life of Christ is offensive.....it's so bloomin free it shouldn't be allowed in a world system of devil control!!!! Hey.....they say..you're not in chains...something must be wrong!See more
24 January at 16:32 · LikeUnlike.Nancy Gilmore I remember the beginnings of the father's outworking in me, as me, and I heard the Lord saying very clearly; "You hate my plan for your life, but not a sparrow falls that I didn't will it."
24 January at 18:25 · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Cathy Rheeder Shoo thanx chris,Nancy,andre,i identify with u all,greatful for sharing,been there.
24 January at 20:19 · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Chris Welch Nancy...great input today.Cathy thanks,you know I have trouble with Kobus....could be he has too many peeps....or hjis securitu settings are set to fortress!!!
24 January at 21:19 · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Allison Choice Good morning Merrill, thanks for the mornimg bread Thy good and faithful Shepard.
25 January at 13:45 · LikeUnlike.Julie Willcox Yey!
25 January at 21:42 · LikeUnlike.Chris Welch hi Allison and Hi Julie



Shepherding-Three Spirit definitions

.by Chris Welch on Saturday, 29 January 2011 at 12:32.In a comment to Paul Anderson Walsh who is looking into shepherding as we see it now:

The three principles laid into me on shepherding are:

1. it's some sort of supernatural outworking of this scripture in Isaiah32:1-2.Behold, a (A)king (Jesus and not some sort of network pyramid apostle or pope) will reign righteously

...And princes will rule justly.2 Each will be like a (B)refuge from the wind And a shelter from the storm,......

And it ain't someone dividing a church into lists of 12 names and calling them housegroups!!!!

2. It's Joseph,the surrogate Dad of Jesus,who takes all the flack but it never is HIS Son

3.Jesus Words some are born eunuchs, some become eunuchs,some make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of God. Again a eunuch takes care of the Bride....but there's no question of "false reproduction en route." A denomination is where there is "false reproduction en route" Something other than just Christ is reproducing at the same time like a virus, that clings to the work of God to make it impotent.

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Brian Mirte Longridge wow, love this, thank you Chris, especially the part "refuge from the wind and a shelter from the storm" in the midst of such chaos and brokenness, a place where people should want to flock to where they do not feel used, abused, manipulated and can learn to trust again and truly live.......
29 January at 15:02 · LikeUnlike.Chris Welch Brian this was the vision of the Fisherfolk Community.If you have not already read Martha Keys poem and some accompanying music off my CD then turn up this post
http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2009/05/from-mystery-of-sin-to-mystery-of-syn...-v.htmlSee more
29 January at 15:06 · LikeUnlike.Brian Mirte Longridge sure thanks Chris will do that now....
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