I think as well as the third level message and also sharing the truth about the world, my other current burden and it may be an en route marker to the other two....is the wholeness of the Body of Christ.
It's a bit of a Catch 22.
The Body cannot be whole until we as individuals know our new identities. But we cannot readily grow into our new identities because paradigms that fracture and disunite actually strengthen the belief that God's Word DOES NOT MEAN WHAT IT SAYS. The devil knew what he was doing when he sowed all that. It has kept us in a loop for thousands of years.
I was talking about this with DeeDee Winter.
The Body like our own bodies has homeostasis....regulatory systems within it which keep all our chemical levels correct, and keep the whole body healthy.
One of he most powerful strategies of Satan is divide and rule, and the most obvious historic example is the Class system.
An aristocrat cannot ordinarily know what it feels like to be a person waking up in the morning desperately worried about losing shelter or having enough food because they don't know if they are going to earn enough. This has been somewhat smoothed over compared with other countries by the social security system. But nevertheless our churches remain pretty middle class even after the experience of baptism in the Spirit. Actually pentecostals largely came from the lower classes, and until Michael Harper there were two hurdles...one the subject itself and secondly it was deemed "beneath" most English to mix with "those sort of classes".
Thirdlevel Christianity is the type that Jesus preached. His followers were a taxcollector,a doctor, some fishermen and doubtless other trades. He had rich wives of wealthy prominant citizens donating to them, as well as many very poor widows.
The true Presence of the Lord embraces absolutely everyone...but that doesn't mean it's easy. When you tune a piano don't think that you tune every string so that there is absolutely no out of tuneness.
While all three strings to one note must be beatless, without any honkytonk vibrations, if you tuned all 12 notes perfectly you'd never be able to play in every key.
If you let Lukes ramble on about detail, they narrow and narrow their focus as they explain things, you'd be all night hearing how they poured their milk on their cornflakes. So the Spirit shuts them up and moves on. If you let prophets ramble, they seem to get more and more airy fairy....and it isn't Holy Spirit...who is accurate , clear and defined...even about spiritual things.If you let administrators out without a lead, they will box the work of the Holy Spirit in with so many constraints Jesus will personally have to knock on the door of all the churches just to be allowed into His own meetings.
WHAT IDIOT ever came up with that one about having to tell a leader your prophecy first before being allowed to issue it? What kind of a nerd came up with that piece of non Biblical bottom excrescence?
If you let pastors control things as they now do totally illegally, they smoothe down the lapels of everyone present and make everything sweet so their offerings are big, putting duct tape over the mouths of prophets.
If you let healers take over, they'll be praying for every loose fingernail and trying to demolish the right of each person to their own faith to live in Divine Health themselves so nobody ever gets sick in the first place. Healers like sickness, it gives them a ministry. And so it goes on. Church as it is run right now actually prevents anybody at all ever becoming thirdlevel and mature.
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Facebook Status Today....Walk In the Light
We want intimacy. Gerald Coates used to call the birth of a church the honeymoon period. We have had one as Christians on Facebook.
What is the honeymoon period.
The free exchange of tons and tons of jewellery that each person now has by virtue of things learned......tough times.....good times......direct blessings.....cultural wealth.....skills.....maybe like Annalize Mouton generational wealth of Christians praying.....Or others...hundreds of years of Amish or Moravian or Mennonite believing.
So where's the problem?Gerald Coates in the previous move called it being human. We call it what it actually says in the Bible. Not living with an inward single eye. False seeing. Ultimately any remaining Satan masquerading as me. See, the wounding would never be as bad if the "being human" myth had any reality to it. But it's very much spirit to spirit. It is that which is of God being addressed by devils. And in the worst cases it can wound for a lifetime if we don't keep fresh with Jesus. The book of James discusses these killing fields.
If we have had some of God's wisdom on issues then like exsmokers we see them coming and we also attack....but not the people....just the issues....The spirits of Darkness.....if we all really want the Light then we walk in the Light and let Darkness be shown up. John says....if we wAlk in the Light we have fellowship one with another.....why....because that is what the Spirit does.....like in Genesis 1.....when He sees darkness He hovers over it incubating Life.
Yes so.....there is the honeymoon free exchange of great wealth.....followed by the rattling of dead bones.....and no church move in history.....Perhaps other e r than the 100 years Moravian prayer meeting.....has ever seen a whole people get through the rattling of dead bones. Take care brethren lest a root of bitterness spring up and you perish in the wilderness like the Israelites.
Showing posts with label Michael Harper. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Michael Harper. Show all posts
Wednesday, 14 January 2015
Friday, 29 January 2010
Michael Harper dies
This will be meaningless to many readers, but Michael Harper has died. Readers will know that the prophetic in me screams at any reference to divine epithet, Father, Apostle,Pastor,Prophet Smith etc.
But if anyone deserves to be called Father, this man does. Virtually singlehanded...not quite....this man tethered the Anglican church to the wall just long enough while it kicked and screamed blasphemies to introduce into its hallowed/unhallowed walls...the reader picks....the subject of baptism in the Spirit and the spiritual gifts. More detail is listed below.
But beloved...if you are in the UK and you are not a Pentecostal, and you consider yourself in the current move of the Spirit,you need to acknowledge this man.
Without Michael, aided and abetted later by such father figures as Arthur Wallis...
you can forget Dales Bible weeks
you can forget Kingdom Faith and Colin Urquart
you can forget the revival in Dr Challoners in 1972
you can forget the small move we had in Exeter university
you can forget Dr Heribert Muhlen probably in Germany and
then my links to my Catholic Charismatic friend Martin Franke
you can forget Chorleywood and New Wine and Soul Survivor
and Matt Redman
you can forget Mark Stibbe
Barry Kissell....at least being in Chorley wood
Holy trinity Brompton
The Alpha course
The John Wimber days in the UK
The doorway for the Toronto outpouring
......where do you want me to stop.
Michael Harper freaked me out by disappearing off the scene and going into the Orthodox church. Some tuning friends told me of this. But I now understand , for him it was his version of the third level. A way of contemplation and intercession. I am grateful to John Crowder's book....New Mystics for helping me to pick this up.
The Times just has no idea who they were writing about.
From yesterday's Times Obituary column
But if anyone deserves to be called Father, this man does. Virtually singlehanded...not quite....this man tethered the Anglican church to the wall just long enough while it kicked and screamed blasphemies to introduce into its hallowed/unhallowed walls...the reader picks....the subject of baptism in the Spirit and the spiritual gifts. More detail is listed below.
But beloved...if you are in the UK and you are not a Pentecostal, and you consider yourself in the current move of the Spirit,you need to acknowledge this man.
Without Michael, aided and abetted later by such father figures as Arthur Wallis...
you can forget Dales Bible weeks
you can forget Kingdom Faith and Colin Urquart
you can forget the revival in Dr Challoners in 1972
you can forget the small move we had in Exeter university
you can forget Dr Heribert Muhlen probably in Germany and
then my links to my Catholic Charismatic friend Martin Franke
you can forget Chorleywood and New Wine and Soul Survivor
and Matt Redman
you can forget Mark Stibbe
Barry Kissell....at least being in Chorley wood
Holy trinity Brompton
The Alpha course
The John Wimber days in the UK
The doorway for the Toronto outpouring
......where do you want me to stop.
Michael Harper freaked me out by disappearing off the scene and going into the Orthodox church. Some tuning friends told me of this. But I now understand , for him it was his version of the third level. A way of contemplation and intercession. I am grateful to John Crowder's book....New Mystics for helping me to pick this up.
The Times just has no idea who they were writing about.
From yesterday's Times Obituary column

Father Michael Harper was one of the first priests to leave the Church of England for the Eastern Orthodox Church, in protest at the decision to allow women to enter the priesthood.
The vote was the last straw for him in his growing dissatisfaction with the Church, after 40 years as a leader on the Charismatic wing of Anglicanism during which he earned an international regard and following. He said later that his decision had surprised many of his friends, who were ignorant of the Orthodox Church.
In his 15 years as an Orthodox priest he set about trying to dispel some of this ignorance, continuing to describe himself as a charismatic and charting his journey to Orthodoxy in his book, The True Light.
Michael Harper was born in 1931 in London. He was baptised, although he recalled that his parents were not very devout Christians. His father was an entrepreneur at Smithfield Market and his mother a beautician with Elizabeth Arden. His first real exposure to Christianity was through his evangelical nanny, who took him to Baptist churches and encouraged his prayer life. He once said he would write a book about the influence of evangelical nannies, citing Winston Churchill as another who enjoyed that benefit.
He won a scholarship to Gresham’s School, Cambridge, and then went to Emmanuel College, Cambridge, to read law and theology.
It was there that he experienced his adult conversion to Christianity, in a revelation during a Eucharist at King’s College Chapel. The following year he put himself forward for ministry in the Anglican Church and after graduating spent two years training for ordination at Ridley Hall, Cambridge.
His first parish was St Barnabas, Clapham Common, London, before he was invited by John Stott to join the staff of the leading evangelical church of All Souls, Langham Place, where he was given special responsibility for the shops along Oxford Street.
While at All Souls he experienced the second turning point along his faith journey, which he described as his “baptism in the Spirit”, the start of his journey as a charismatic. This experience led to a rift between him and Stott for some years.
Harper and his wife Jeanne, a talented musician whom he had married in 1956, left All Souls and dedicated themselves to the renewal movement worldwide. They formed the Fountain Trust, which organised charismatic conferences all over the world at which he addressed thousands of people. Jeanne co-edited the hugely influential songbook, Sound of Living Waters, which is still used by charismatic churches today.
Harper then went on to found Soma (Sharing of Ministries Abroad), which was committed to sharing ministries between the developed and developing world. He was involved for many years with the World Council of Churches. Colleagues remember him as a man with the ability to build friendships across the Christian traditions, and to encourage vocations. A gentle and humble man, Harper was nevertheless a dynamic speaker and networker, able to draw people in whatever their background or differences from himself.
His ministry was recognised in the Roman Catholic renewal; he spoke at several Catholic meetings and he met Popes Paul VI, John Paul and John Paul II. During this time he also edited Renewal, the longest-established charismatic magazine in the world, and he was a canon of Chichester Cathedral. He wrote 18 books, including the bestseller Equal and Different, which set out his views on women’s ordination and the gender debate.
Harper’s final spiritual step was to join the Eastern Orthodox Church. His first experience of Orthodoxy had been 20 years earlier in 1975, in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said he knew even then that Orthodoxy was very important and he would meet it one day. In 1989 he went to his first Byzantine liturgy at the New Valamo monastery at Heinävesi in southeastern Finland, and that, he later described in an interview, it was the “real answer”.
While the ordination of women in the Anglican Church prompted some clergy to convert to Roman Catholicism, Harper was never tempted by this, believing they would find too many problems in Rome. He described himself as “being led to Orthodoxy”, and in 1993 he was made president of the Pilgrimage to Orthodoxy. Two years later he and his wife were received into the Orthodox Church.
When he was first ordained into the Orthodox Church in 1995 he did not have a parish, so he set about forming an English-speaking Orthodox parish in London. Initially it was attached to the Arabic-speaking Antiochian Cathedral parish, and Harper started an English-language liturgy there on Saturday afternoons. This became the core of the now thriving St Botolph’s parish in the City, near Liverpool Street Station.
He was appointed dean of the new Antiochian Orthodox Deanery of the UK and Ireland, and on its tenth anniversary he was raised to become Archpriest. He was committed to educating about Orthodoxy at all levels, and was involved with the Institute for Orthodox Christian Studies at Cambridge from its beginnings a decade ago.
He resigned as dean a few months before his death. He had suffered from cancer, but continued to minister at St Botolph’s until a few months ago.
He is survived by his wife, Jeanne.
Father Michael Harper, Archpriest of the Antiochian Orthodox Deanery of the UK and Ireland, was born on March 12, 1931. He died of cancer on January 6, 2010, aged 78
The vote was the last straw for him in his growing dissatisfaction with the Church, after 40 years as a leader on the Charismatic wing of Anglicanism during which he earned an international regard and following. He said later that his decision had surprised many of his friends, who were ignorant of the Orthodox Church.
In his 15 years as an Orthodox priest he set about trying to dispel some of this ignorance, continuing to describe himself as a charismatic and charting his journey to Orthodoxy in his book, The True Light.
Michael Harper was born in 1931 in London. He was baptised, although he recalled that his parents were not very devout Christians. His father was an entrepreneur at Smithfield Market and his mother a beautician with Elizabeth Arden. His first real exposure to Christianity was through his evangelical nanny, who took him to Baptist churches and encouraged his prayer life. He once said he would write a book about the influence of evangelical nannies, citing Winston Churchill as another who enjoyed that benefit.
He won a scholarship to Gresham’s School, Cambridge, and then went to Emmanuel College, Cambridge, to read law and theology.
It was there that he experienced his adult conversion to Christianity, in a revelation during a Eucharist at King’s College Chapel. The following year he put himself forward for ministry in the Anglican Church and after graduating spent two years training for ordination at Ridley Hall, Cambridge.
His first parish was St Barnabas, Clapham Common, London, before he was invited by John Stott to join the staff of the leading evangelical church of All Souls, Langham Place, where he was given special responsibility for the shops along Oxford Street.
While at All Souls he experienced the second turning point along his faith journey, which he described as his “baptism in the Spirit”, the start of his journey as a charismatic. This experience led to a rift between him and Stott for some years.
Harper and his wife Jeanne, a talented musician whom he had married in 1956, left All Souls and dedicated themselves to the renewal movement worldwide. They formed the Fountain Trust, which organised charismatic conferences all over the world at which he addressed thousands of people. Jeanne co-edited the hugely influential songbook, Sound of Living Waters, which is still used by charismatic churches today.
Harper then went on to found Soma (Sharing of Ministries Abroad), which was committed to sharing ministries between the developed and developing world. He was involved for many years with the World Council of Churches. Colleagues remember him as a man with the ability to build friendships across the Christian traditions, and to encourage vocations. A gentle and humble man, Harper was nevertheless a dynamic speaker and networker, able to draw people in whatever their background or differences from himself.
His ministry was recognised in the Roman Catholic renewal; he spoke at several Catholic meetings and he met Popes Paul VI, John Paul and John Paul II. During this time he also edited Renewal, the longest-established charismatic magazine in the world, and he was a canon of Chichester Cathedral. He wrote 18 books, including the bestseller Equal and Different, which set out his views on women’s ordination and the gender debate.
Harper’s final spiritual step was to join the Eastern Orthodox Church. His first experience of Orthodoxy had been 20 years earlier in 1975, in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said he knew even then that Orthodoxy was very important and he would meet it one day. In 1989 he went to his first Byzantine liturgy at the New Valamo monastery at Heinävesi in southeastern Finland, and that, he later described in an interview, it was the “real answer”.
While the ordination of women in the Anglican Church prompted some clergy to convert to Roman Catholicism, Harper was never tempted by this, believing they would find too many problems in Rome. He described himself as “being led to Orthodoxy”, and in 1993 he was made president of the Pilgrimage to Orthodoxy. Two years later he and his wife were received into the Orthodox Church.
When he was first ordained into the Orthodox Church in 1995 he did not have a parish, so he set about forming an English-speaking Orthodox parish in London. Initially it was attached to the Arabic-speaking Antiochian Cathedral parish, and Harper started an English-language liturgy there on Saturday afternoons. This became the core of the now thriving St Botolph’s parish in the City, near Liverpool Street Station.
He was appointed dean of the new Antiochian Orthodox Deanery of the UK and Ireland, and on its tenth anniversary he was raised to become Archpriest. He was committed to educating about Orthodoxy at all levels, and was involved with the Institute for Orthodox Christian Studies at Cambridge from its beginnings a decade ago.
He resigned as dean a few months before his death. He had suffered from cancer, but continued to minister at St Botolph’s until a few months ago.
He is survived by his wife, Jeanne.
Father Michael Harper, Archpriest of the Antiochian Orthodox Deanery of the UK and Ireland, was born on March 12, 1931. He died of cancer on January 6, 2010, aged 78
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