Showing posts with label Logos. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Logos. Show all posts

Monday, 27 January 2025

Impersonal Logical Agenda ? No ,Childbirth .

 



From Norma on Instagram

Agenda in pyramid terms is very mind centric . Agenda in Divine terms sounds mindcentric in Greek , but thank God for prophets , for the fourth quartile who are God's living gift to everybody of what Word is .

All the time people flushed out from seminaries quote Logos as if Greek is Divine . Hebrew is Divine . Greek is a product of a tribe who went AWOL. Greek is a product of a tribe described as the Snake in the Way .

Logic isn't our centre .


Word is something Born .

Word is a conception .

The fourth quartile curate spirit . It is vital the fourth quartile connect properly .

" In whose hearts are the highways to Zion ".


The fourth quartile speak . Orate .

Orate is different from ' write a book '.

The fourth quartile are the Face of the Eagle . The Eagle Face is the only Living Being that gives the top down view . John's gospel is called the non  synoptic gospel . It's stating a truth , but almost disdainfully . " Why can't he be like the rest ! Why does he have to be different ".


John's gospel is a top down blueprint view , a Tabernacle Layout view , as well as a Feasts view .

Like my blog it's telling you of the different heavenly spaces .


John 3 is our entrance into God's outer courts 

John 4 is our entrance into the inner courts to become part of the Priesthood of the Order of Melchizedek .

John 5 and John 6 are catching us up with the theme of Bread  and Food . Why ?

Because our spiritual Bread is to do the Will of God .

We are eating of His actual life as we DO THE WHAT'S NEXT OF GOD , which is revealed only by moment by moment live Fellowship with the Father . This is what the ' heavenly manna ' concept is . It's what the Psalm 19 concept of Word is , day to day pouring forth speech . It's what the Psalm 123 concept is . All this is related to the Table of ShewBread idea in the Holy place .


The Holy Place is Word and Spirit .

The Holiest Place is  chucking yourself right in lock stock and barrel : the altar of incense / Day of At -One - ment , Exekiel 47, Romans 12.1  but based on the FACTS of Galatians 2.20 and Colossians 3 .3

It's not something we attain .....it something Christ already did in His work 

So the adjoining thought with the Holy Place is that the Holiest Place is also Word and Spirit , but we are now grounded in our soul in what Christ did in our born again spirit .

We are now acacia box humanity covered on the inside and out with gold , and in our members are now stacked the three forms of Word . And accompanying us is Khavod. Or Spirit .


So everything was always Spirit and Word .


It is true that during this present period we have been living through since Acts , it is very like the transitional Feast of Pentecost .

Why ?

In Pentecost we have the High Priest waving two loaves . So we have improved some , from the Day of Christ's resurrection , which was the waving of the first Sheaf of corn before the Lord .

We have got as far as two loaves .


Israel and a separate Gentile house of the Lord 

Catholics and Protestants 

Protestants and Evangelicals 

Evangelicals and Charismatics 


God has allowed a God TV which is more candlestick in nature and Revelation TV which is more Berean and Word Centric .


But the point of Christ the Lamb / Brazen Altar

                            And 

Laver / baptism in water  plus oil anointing / baptism in the Spirit 


The point of candlestick and ShewBread 


Is God's insistence that if we want manifestation it's always been Spirit and Word .


The book Surrounded by Idiots is a book about the four quartiles written by somebody raised in the West outside the Bloodlines , outside the Upper levels of Tavistock Institute . As Minority Report showed and Xmen , which I haven't seen , shows , Tavistock Institute and Pulman's Magisterium or Jesuitry and Templars , they well know what we all are and especially the curators of spirit , the fourth quartile .


Word is not Logos or logic centred . It may percolate through the mind , but spirit is our whole inner being . Spirit is our main identity .

We have a soul , mind will and emotions , but who we are is spirit . In baptism in the spirit we were given the gift of tongues .  Tongues is so much part of a revelation of a different part of us . This direct connection bypassing our limited comprehension strengthens us and empowers our inner man .


The Four Faces are only the primary faces of the Living Beings . Take a look at Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10, and Revelation 4.  Each living being may have a primary face, but each has three more .


This is how we connect with each other . This is how we add to each other's lives .

Matthews make all of us more executive . Whatever Tony Robbins and Think and Grow Rich Napoleon Hill are , and I'm not advocating on " passing through fire " , they speak to our executive function .

Marks also get us up and at em . They speak to our caring function .

Lukes speak to clear thinking . Prioritisation . Through Golgotha and Romans 12 .2 they speak of not losing rationality to fear based thinking but having a sound mind . Legion after deliverance was found quited and having a sound mind .

Johns are well described by Franz Kafka . He describes them as the ' artist in society ' , but in pagan societies they are shamen , in Christ we are the prophets and Intercessors . Rees Howells and Mother Basilea Schlink were opening and closing doors over nations to do with dictators .

St John was revealing to us the Revelation of Jesus Christ Himself . Norman Grubb , who was a Cambridge mind as well as Intercessor was opening up for us the how of Genesis 3 and the how of the Total Solution in Christ . Way beyond the gospel of evangelicals or the gospel of victories of Morris Cerullo . This is the unsealing of the third Feast .....the work of the first 12 apostles and the more precise descriptions to Gentiles knowing nothing , by St Paul .

Madam Guyon was again opening this doorway as was Jacob Boehme in the 1600s.

GH Warnock was laying out the blueprint to us in a more Body Centric version like Book of Ephesians .


Logos is more than logic . Word is birthed in the spirit man . We are children of our Father ,going into the same birthing process of manifesting , not just an impersonal agenda , like the devil .....but a very Child of Promise in the earth .

Friday, 19 December 2014

The Tongue and the Word IV - Morris Cerullo

Chapter 2
FACE SATAN,
KNOWING THAT YOU ARE
INVINCIBLE THROUGH THE
POWER OF THE WORD. by Morris Cerullo

There is power, a living Force, within you that makes you invincible. God has planted something within you that is so strong, steadfast, and sure, that it is absolutely incapable of error and cannot be taken by assault. There is nothing—no work, no word, and no power of the enemy—that can defeat you. You cannot be taken.
This power is the only thing that will give you the ability to break Satan's hold and will enable you to walk in 100 percent victory. This powerful Force is the unchangeable, infallible, impregnable Word of God.
Before the powerful strategy of speaking the Word can become a reality in your life, you must know what the Word of God is. Take your Bible, and hold it in your hands. Open it, and leaf through the pages.
The Book that you hold in your hand is God's Word. It is God's voice to us. It is sacred and holy. Every Word in it, from cover to cover, is divinely inspired. A solemn warning is given to anyone who would add to or take away from the words that are written in it. (See Revelation 22:18-19.) Every Word and every prophecy will come to pass.
The Bible is the written Word of God, but it does not contain every Word that God has ever spoken or all of the things that Jesus said and did while He was upon the earth. There wouldn't be enough books in the world to contain all of that. (See John 21:25.)

The Bible is God's voice to us, but do not limit your understanding to think that it is the sum of His Word. It is not. God's Word is not merely the written Word, the Bible, but it is also God Himself, the living Word. God's Word is eternal. It was with Him from the beginning. Before the earth was formed, He spoke into the empty void of space, and as the Words went out of His mouth, the work was accomplished!
The written and the living Word are inseparable. The Early Church did not have a written Bible. They spoke the Word. What they had seen and heard Jesus do is what they did. And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem; greatly; and a great number of the priests were obedient to the fain (Acts 6:7).
There are two Greek words for the English word word that art used in the Bible. Those Greek words are Rhema and Logos. They both are used whenever we see the word word used in our English Bible. Let's talk for a minute about what the word Logos means.
The way the word Logos is used in the New Testament actuall­y has two meanings. It is the expression of God's thoughts throngh statements by God Himself or by Christ. A man's word is the means that he uses to reveal what he is thinking. God used the Logos to reveal His thoughts and manifest Himself to the world.
The scriptures that are recorded in the Bible are Logos.
The message of the gospel is Logos. They are expressions of God's thonghts and His revealed will for mankind. Logos is the Word of the Lord. It is the revealed will of God. It is the message from the Lord, It has been delivered to us with His authority and the accompanying power to bring it to pass.
When Peter preached to the Gentiles at Cornelius' house he spoke the Word—the Logos—and while he was speakingthe Holy Ghost fell on all them who heard the Word. (See 10:34-48.) Peter spoke the Word with authority, and God's power accompanied it.
In Capernaum, people were gathered together inside the house that Jesus was staying in. There was no room left for any more people
to come in. He preached the Word—the Logos—to them. (See Mark 2:1-12.) Jesus did not read the scripture, give an introduction, and then preach a sermon with three or four points and a closing. He preached the Logos. He revealed the thoughts and will of God concerning mankind through the Word that He spoke and through His actions.
When He revealed the will of God, His words were with power. He spoke about forgiveness and healing. They were a part of God's plan and will for mankind to experience. He demonstrated the Word of forgiveness and healing to a man who was sick with the palsy. Palsy is a complete or partial muscle paralysis that is often accompanied by the loss of sensation and uncontrollable body movements or tremors. The man was immediately cured.
The Logos is also used to refer to Jesus Christ, the living Word. Jesus, the living Word, the Logos is the personal manifestation of all that God is. Through Jesus, the Logos, God revealed and manifested Himself as a personal God and One Who is so concerned with love for us that He was willing to come to earth in the form of human flesh and live among us.
IN the beginning was the Word[Logos], and the Word [Logos] was with God, and the Word [Logos], was God (John 1:1). And the Word [Logos] was made flesh, and dwelt among us ... (John 1:14).
We will now learn about the Word from the Rhema standpoint. The Rhema Word is active and powerful. It is used in the New Testament to refer to "that which is spoken." It is a word, a promise, or an individual scripture that the Holy Spirit brings to our remembrance in times of need. It is a Word that is spoken by God.
With the Rhema Word comes the built-in faith that is needed for its fulfillment. The power for the fulfillment of the Word is not of us or our ability. It is in the Word that is spoken by God.
Paul, the apostle, encouraged the Ephesians to take ... the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God (Ephesians 6:17). In this verse, when he spoke of the Word of God, he was not referring to the whole Bible. He was referring to the Rhema—a Word or a scripture that the Spirit speaks to your heart and mind.
It is this Rhema—this Word that is spoken directly to you from God—that becomes a powerful weapon in your mouth. With it comes the faith that you need, and when you speak it, it will destroy the enemy's strongholds.
When Jesus faced Satan in the wilderness, He revealed this powerful strategy. He said: ... It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word [Rhema] that proceedeth out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4). It is the Rhema—the Word that God directly speaks to your spirit—that will destroy Satan's strongholds, not simply repeating verses that you have memorized.
When the angel, Gabriel, told Mary that she would conceive a child by the Holy Spirit and give birth to the sinless Son of God, it was the Rhema to her. It was a promise from God. It was spoken by an angel. Along with the Rhema Word came the faith for its fulfillment. Mary received it and said: ... be it unto me according to thy word ... (Luke 1:38). Previously, Mary had questioned how it would happen because she had never been with a man. When the angel spoke the Word of God, the Rhema, she was willing to receive the Word, even though she didn't understand at first how it would be fulfilled.
When Jesus spoke the Word to the leper to be clean, it was the Rhema Word, a promise that was spoken to him by God. The same thing applied to the woman who was caught in the act of adultery. He told her that her sins would be forgiven. It was the Rhema Word of God to her.
God may speak the Rhema directly to your spirit, or He may speak through another individual. The Rhema Word may be a scripture or a specific promise from God. When the Rhema comes to you from. God, the power to bring it to pass is already contained within it. When you receive it, all you need to do is accept it—as Mary did—and say: ... be it unto me according to thy word ... (Luke 1:38).

You are going to be so strong that as Satan looked at Jesus and trembled, so he is going to look at you and tremble. There is not going to be any difference between Jesus—Who was on this earth—and you.

IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD.
God's Word is eternal. It has no beginning of days and no ending of life. There has never been a time when the Word didn't exist.
is self-existent and timeless. When the earth was without form and void, and darkness covered the earth, the Word existed. Into that empty void, like the mighty thunder of many waters, God spoke creation into existence.
IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good.- and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament of the waters which were above the firmament. and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
.And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night.• he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth.
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament ofheaven.
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, and after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind- and God saw that it was good.
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind.• and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind- and God saw that it was good.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowlofthe air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
THUS the heavens and the earth were fin ished, and all the host of them.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh_ day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work -which God created and made.
Genesis 1:1-2:3
Every created thing upon this earth owes its existence to the Word. God spoke, and out of the darkvoid, there came light. He spoke the Word, and the sun, moon, and stars appeared out of nowhere. He spoke the Word, and dry land, trees, mountains, and vegetation came into being. He spoke the Word, and the sea brought forth fish and all of the other living creatures in it. Insects materialized, and all fowls of the air manifested. He spoke the Word and created mankind out of the dust of the earth.
the same creative power of God is still in the Word today! The Word of God is eternal. It is from everlasting to everlasting. Heaven and earth will one day pass away, but God's Word will endure forever. God's Word does not change. The living Word and the written Word do not change.They are the same yesterday, today, and forever.
People change. Doctrines change. Ideals change, but the Word God never changes.

THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
God and His Word are inseparable. Jesus is the Word. The Word was with God from the beginning:
Giving thanks to the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind nd by wicked works, yet now bath he reconciled ...
Colossians 1:12-21
The living Word was with God before the foundation of th, world. It was through Him that God created all things. He was or,- with God, was the express image of God, and possessed the sarr.- attributes of God. They existed in perfect unity. They were one i- thought, motive, purpose, and action. It is impossible to separa-, God and His Word. They are one. All that can be said about Gc: can be said about His Word.
God is all-powerful, and His Word is all-powerful. God is ho:-and His Word is holy. God is faithful, and His Word is faithfi 
God is unchanging, and His Word is unchanging. God cannot fail, and His Word cannot fail. God is everlasting, and His Word is everlasting.

THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH
AND DWELT AMONG US.
Two thousand years ago, the Word became flesh. It is the Word that was in the beginning with God, made all things, and spoke the worlds and everything in them into existence.
According to God's plan and purpose, God sent forth His only begotten Son, the living Word. The Spirit of God breathed upon a virgin named Mary. The incorruptible seed of Jesus Christ was placed in her womb by the Holy Spirit. The very life of God was in that incorruptible seed. Then, at the time appointed by the Father, the only begotten Son of God was born.
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law ... (Galatians 4:4). The Word, God, was made flesh. ... (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, )full of grace and truth (John 1:14).
the Word (Logos) became flesh, and we beheld His glory. Jesus was a reflection of God's glory. The glory of God shone forth and was manifested in Jesus' character and in the things that He did. God sent the Word for a purpose.
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it (Isaiah 55:11).
What was His purpose? ... For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of devil (I John 3:8). The purpose of the Word is to destroy the works of the devil. Are you beginning to understand that?
God said that He was sending His Word, His only begotten Son, and Jesus will not return to God empty-handed. He will accomplish the plan and purpose whereto He has been sent. He will not fail. He will destroy the works of the devil. The Logos, the living Word that
was with God from the beginning, and the written Word are th same. They are inseparable..

THE WORD IS ALIVE!
The written Word is not a dry, lifeless book of historical accoun­t is powerful and has creative power. Jesus said: ... the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life (John 6:63). Say out lot: The Word is alive! Jesus Christ is alive and seated at the right hand God. The Word is alive. Jesus told Martha: ... I am the resurrection and the life ... ( John 11:25). He spoke the Word: ... Lazarus, com forth (John 11:43).
The same life that was in Jesus was also in His Word. His Word was full of resurrection power. They were pulsating with life.His Word penetrated the darkness of Lazarus' tomb and entered the region of the dead. When Lazarus' spirit heard Jesus' Word, it came back into Lazarus' body, jumped to its feet, and came out of the tomb by the power of that Word.
he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live (John 11:25). Jesus said: For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;And hath given him
 authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man (John 5:26-27),
Jesus Christ, the living Word, is self-existent and has life Himself, and so does His Word. Jesus said: ... He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life (Jc: 5:24). In His Word is eternal life. This is why an alcoholic, drug addict, murderer, homosexual, or prostitute on the street can hear Word and instantly be transformed, delivered, and resurrected from spiritual death unto eternal life!
Praise God that the Word is alive! You and I have been given life. We are born again, not of corruptible seed that perishes but the Word of God, which is imperishable. It lives and abides for ever. (See I Peter 1:23.) We owe our very life to the Word of God.

Jesus Christ, the living Word, has the power to save and to heal, and His Word does, too. God sent the living Word to the earth for a purpose—to destroy the works of the devil. While He was on the earth, Jesus confronted Satan and destroyed his works everywhere He went. He spoke the Word and healed the sick, cleansed the leper, cast out demons, and raised the dead.
God's purpose for the Word is the same. He has purposed for you and me—His sons and daughters—to go forth in the power of the Holy Spirit, speaking forth the Word. The same creative power is in His Word. That is why people are healed after they receive the Word into their spirit.
As long as I live, I will never forget what happened in a service I was conducting in the Philippines in 1959. I was preaching the Word and heard a peculiar popping sound. I looked to see where it was coming from. There, in the front row, was a man who was so twisted and deformed that he couldn't sit up straight. He was rolled up in a ball and lying on the ground.
This man was just one of hundreds of other people, who were lying all over the place in this crusade. They were all waiting to be touched by the healing power of Jesus. I continued to preach the Word. All of a sudden, that man--,who was so crippled and twisted that he couldn't move—began to move. He began to stretch out and untwist his legs and then his arms.
The popping sound I had heard was the man's bones cracking and his limbs snapping into their proper shape and place. He got up and ran across the front of the roped-off area, leaping and shouting. I didn't say a single prayer. He was healed by his faith and the power of the Word that was going forth out of my mouth.
Remember that you cannot separate God from His Word. The power for the fulfillment of His Word is not in any man or in anything that he possesses. The power for the fulfillment of His Word is in the Word itself. God sent His Word to this earth to destroy the works of the devil.
The Word of God in your mouth today is alive. It is the same as when Christ spoke life, healing, and deliverance with His Word two
thousand years ago. It is the same. The Word of God in your mouth will destroy the works of the devil. Say this out loud: God has not planned any defeats for me. This is my year for a new beginning. ?he Word of God is alive. It is powerful. It will destroy the works of the devil. 

THE WORD CANNOT BE CAPTURED.
In the United States, and throughout the nations of the world, we have developed a national defense system to protect us from possible invasion by enemy forces. We have radar scanners, anti­aircraft missiles, rocket-propelled grenades, surface-to-air missiles, millions of soldiers in the military, fleets of jets, tanks, submarines, ships, sophisticated weapons, equipment, tactical gear, and protective outerwear. We have developed these defenses in an attempt to make our country as safe and secure as possible against enemy attack.
Regardless of all that has been done, there is still the possibility that somehow the enemy could penetrate our line of defense (remember September 11!), attack strategic positions, and gain control of the country. This is true for every nation in the world. There is always the possibility that a country could be attacked and captured. During combat, soldiers go onto the battlefield and risk being captured.
In our world today, there is only one thing that is absolutely incapable of being captured. What is it? What is incapable of being captured? The powerful and invincible Word of the living God is incapable of being taken by assault. It cannot be captured.
Throughout the ages, people have tried to wipe every trace of the Bible from the face of the earth. They have ridiculed it, spit on it, banned it, burned it, tried to discredit it, and called it myths and fairy tales. People have twisted the scriptures and perverted them with their own invented doctrines. In spite of all of these attacks, the Word still stands. It hasn't lost its power!
From the very beginning, as soon as the disciples began to speak the Word, in the Name of Jesus, Satan tried to stop them. The disciples were thrown in jail, beaten, and commanded not to speak
or teach in that Name. It didn't work! Satan couldn't stop the Word from going forth. His plan backfired. The Word of God increased. So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed (Acts 19:20). Praise God that the Word prevailed!
Paul, who was bound and thrown into prison for preaching the Word, wrote to Timothy:
Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel.Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
II Timothy 2:8-9
Paul was in chains, but the Word could not be chained. It could not and cannot be bound. In China, India, and many other countries today, men and women are being beaten and imprisoned for preaching the Word, but the Word is not bound. Even though they are threatened, imprisoned. be-aten, and their land and jobs are taken away from them, these Christians continue to speak the Word. They continue to speak in the 'Name of Jesus.
If somehow our Bibles were all to be taken and burned, it still would not stop the Word. Why? It would not stop the Word because God and His Word are inseparable. The Word is alive. The living Word is in us and cannot be bound.

THE WORD IS INFALLIBLE
AND IMPREGNABLE.
Several years ago, God gave me a prophetic Word for the Church. One morning, I was praying in my home and sensed the marvelous Presence of God. That familiar anointing of the Holy Spirit came and stood by my right shoulder. I felt a Presence, as if Someone had laid their hand on my right shoulder.
I looked up and saw the manifestation of the anointing of the Presence of God over my right shoulder. God spoke to me. He said: Tell My people that everything that can be shaken will be shaken. Tell them to fix their faith. If their faith is not fixed during this crisis, then they will not stand. They must fix their faith upon that which is infallible
and that which is impregnable. They must have a fixed point for their faith. Ihat fixed point must be My Word.
God is a God of purpose, plan, design, and objectivity. According to His end-time plan, He has promised that He is going to shake the earth yet once more. The expression "yet once more" is referring to the final removal. This is telling us when the
shaking is going to come. It is coming during God's end-time harvest, the maturity of the times and the climax of the ages. He is going to bring all things together and consummate them in Christ. 
(See Ephesians 1:10.)
This shaking will hit every church denomination. Every ministry Th
will be shaken. Satan is not going to be doing the shaking. God is 
going to be doing the shaking. I am warning you nowso that you
will be prepared. What is God's purpose for this shaking- There are 
sins within our ranks that God must clean up and get rid of in order
for the Church to stand—without spot, wrinkle, or blemish—before 
His throne.
Christian experiences are going to be shaken. Today, we live in 
a world where every kind of doctrine and theology is being thrown
around. There are two reasons for this problem. One reason comes 
from the pulpit; the other reason comes from the pew. Don't blame 
the pulpit if you're gullible enough to sit there in the pew and 
take it. It's so easy to criticize the preacher, who you feel is leading 
you astray. If you know where you are going, then he cannot lead 
you astray. 
There are Christians today who are too lazy or too busy to get in 
the Word and stay in the Word. They have their eyes upon certain
preachers and teachers and are accepting every word that comes 
out of their mouths. It is much easier for them to depend upon the 
word of the preachers and teachers instead of depending upon and is 
trusting in the Word of God. It is time for us to search the scriptures 
to see if what we are hearing is the true, pure, and unadulterated 
Word of God. 
Do not put your trust in other people. Do not put your trust in man-made doctrines. Do not put your trust in denominations. These things are all subject to change. They are subject to error.They are able to mislead or deceive you. Keep your trust and faith in the infallible Word of God. 

Believers who do not search the scriptures for themselves will be
shaken. They will not be able to stand. They may sing and shout about 
Jesus coming soon, but they are not practicing what they preach. They say that they believe that He is coming, yet are so involved with the cares of this life that they have no time to witness to or pray for the lost. They have no time to spend in fasting and prayer. They have not committed themselves and their time, energy, and finances to winning the lost. Their heart is still attached to this world.
God is not going to tolerate this kind of outward spirituality. These Christians will be shaken. There is only one thing that is going to help you to stand, while ever%ihingg around you is being shaken. It is the infallible, impregnable Word of God.
The word infallible means "no margin for and "incapable
to mislead or deceive." There is no doctrine or theology- of man that is infallible. Very few theories stand the test of time. We are constantly in a state of learning and change. Listen closely. You and I cannot afford the spiritual luxury of change. We must know that know  know that we know what the truth is. In order to have this position of strength, we must have our faith fixed to that which is infallible.
Do not put your trust in other people. Do not put your trust in man-made doctrines. Do not put your trust in denominations. These things are all subject to change. They are subject to error.They are able to mislead or deceive you. Keep your trust and faith in the infallible Word of God. God's Word is incapable of misleading or deceiving. It is impregnable. Impregnable means that it is "incapable of being taken by assault." It cannot be captured. It cannot be bound.
God and His Word are inseparable. His Word is eternal. It has creative power. It is unchangeable. It is alive. It cannot fail. It cannot be taken by assault. The Word—that was with God from the beginning—became flesh and lived among us. God sent His Son—the living Word, Jesus—to destroy the works of the devil. The Logos is the written Word, which makes you invincible. Nothing can touch you. You cannot be taken.
God has not planned any defeats for you. Everything that can be shaken will be shaken. If you know that your faith is fixed upon the impregnable and infallible Word of God, then you will not be shaken.
God is going to have a people. You are going to be so strong that as Satan looked at Jesus and trembled, so he is going to look at you and tremble. There is not going to be any difference between Jesus—Who was on this earth—and you.
This week, face Satan, knowing the power of the Word and knowing that there is nothing—no power of the enemy—that can defeat you. You will fulfill the Words of Jesus. If abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you (John 15:7).








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Thursday, 21 October 2010

The New Subject of Spirit Geometry by Chris Welch


First appeared on Facebook Wednesday, 20 October 2010 at 11:47


How do I know about this subject? I just made up the title.

Jesus was clever.He not only told stories about families and friends and fluffy things, he also told tales of builders and towers and armies.

Get my drift? Generally the Kingdom is presented in such a female style that churches are filled with women. Well that's one take. Another is that men have this slightly linear angular style to their thinking that doesn't pick up on the MANIFOLD wisdom of God. Women are perhaps better at this.

So , like a car, if your wisdom doesn't have a MANIFOLD, go down the shops and get one.

The real problem with politics is not the validity of left and right views.

The real problem with the church is not which particular denomination has the right view.

The real problem with education is not whether kids should be taught strictly, or left to go at their own pace.



No, the real problem with all of the above is way way way more basic.

The real problem is that the Fall locked us into our left-brains. Into linear thought. Into

I live from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil and everything along a rigid line of values going from bloomin marvellous to less good to bad to absolutely appalling. We live the opposite of Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and DO NOT RELY on your insight.But in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths."

This has become "Trust in your insight with all your heart and do not rely on your Lord. In all your ways stumble on through until you can make your own paths straight."



Any idiot can see that if we ran politics the way the two hemispheres of our brain work, or like a family manages a household with input from both parents, both left and right disciplines are equally valid. But linear thought can't see that. It is locked into into its own tramlines.

Just so for religion. Just so for education.



So Spirit geometry is for people with angular thinking. It's not quite the same as I've just written , so kindly rub down the blackboard, or if you've got one of those digital whiteboard thingies, just refresh the page please. Thanks.



This is about the 3 dimensions of physical space. Forwards sideways and up. It's about God's desire to build a house in the Earth.

So it is about combining ideas of physical geometry with Spirit construction. It is a totally one sided picture just as Jesus words were one sided: Before you build a tower , consider that you have got enough materials to make it, because when you start building and haven't enough to complete it, people are going to look on and laugh. That is, this picture contains nothing of God's love, or relationship or anything fluffy like that, so is only a very limited picture, since the whole of the Kingdom is about love. I'm saying this so you can blame Jesus at this point, not me. He started it.

The Stephen Hawking type word for a point in space having no dimensions forwards or sideways or up is a singularity.

When we are born again at our spirit centre we are a singularity. We are totally alive. We, like DNA, contain the complete frame of reference for everything that will ever be built into our life to make us a 100% fully mature adopted Son of God useful for any work on God's building anywhere on Earth.

The Bible's picture for Spirit Geometry is the Tabernacle. The Children,young men,father maturity manual of 1 John 2 put into a construction model.

To begin with, we are very limited in what God can do with us. We move in only one dimension , lets say forwards. We know how to share with others about how they too can have our "singularity" experience. We can say to folk, "I've been born again and you can be too."

We can tell others how to grow. "you move forwards like this...see...it's easy isn't it?"



My problem with the next section of description is that the Young men stage of Christianity or here, the two dimensional form of Christianity seems to have 2 strands to it. You have people like me who only knew a full baptism in the Holy Spirit which jetissoned us off to share into our school and caused a small localised revival. But you also have Norman Grubbs that never have a clean clear experience of the Baptism in the Spirit and Jesus still lets them get into heaven....sorry that's cheeky. Ofcourse they get into heaven. But it kind of leaves the dilemma with how we get into twodimensional "plane" construction with such two different strands of folk. And I think it works like this.

In the second "area" of the Tabernacle, the "young men " stage are two classes of objects. There are the 12 pieces of Shewbread all neatly laid out on the Table, but there is also the candle stick, the ONLY form of Light in there. If the Bread is more Word based experience and the Candlestick is more Spirit experience-power-and gift based you begin to understand how these other "interlopers" (and remember both sides think that simulataneously of the other group) dwell side by side with US the true servants of God!!!!LOL

Clearly though, those fed on the Bread are still into linear thinking, because all their portions are neatly cut up and served up uniquely for them. Never the Breads shall meet.

So, in this stage, we can share with others not only how to get born again, (a singularity) how to grow moving forwards in one line, but also how to MOVE SIDEWAYS as well. Thus we are starting to break free from the curse of the Fall in our thinking. We are beginning to tentatively be aware that there are 12 tribes in here, but we don't want to look around much beyond about 4 or 5 of them. The rest make us feel sick.So we don't have anything to do with them.



Let's look at Jesus with the disciples. They were Hebrews. They understood about God. It was in their history. It was in their culture. Although not properly and legallly born again n yet, because that only happened when He breathed upon them after the Cross, nevertheless Jesus was really introducing them to a good deal MORE than One dimensional Kingdom. Pretty soon they were moving in two dimensions...they were empowered...goodness knows how...probably like the prophets of the Old Testament....and they prayed and commanded miracles....and so it was...they got the miracles...

And for a hundred years now, we as an international Body have been preaching this same two dimensional gospel of being born again, receiving the Power of the Holy Spirit and going around reproducing this type of Body, this type of Kingdom. In Spirit Geometric terms we've been spreading out numerically to the right and left. Or another way to say it is we have been sharing our LINEARITY in all directions!!!!! This makes a PLANE shape. Pentecostals. YWAM. All kinds of Spirit-filled housegroup. All kinds of Sattellite broadcasted Warehouse Church. Joseph Prince. Rob Rufus. The "reproductive" ministry of Morris Cerullo through Schools of Ministry that teach "PLANE" construction techniques.



BUT GOD IS LOOKING FOR A HOUSE!

A THREE DIMENSIONAL HOUSE.

And here the example breaks down.

Because God's House itself....

REPRODUCES IN THREE DIMENSIONS.



What is the third dimension? What is it that stops us building flat boring "Planes" everywhere we go that like half built towers just cause people to laugh hysterically, falling on the floor beating the ground? What is it that takes Sattellite TV form boring talking Head form where Joyce Meyers or Bertie Brits tells a story about how good the Kingdom is....to actually filming the 3d KINGDOM deal, as would have happened had Acts 2 been filmed, with PETER STANDING UP WITH THE ELEVEN and proclaiming "What you see and hear HAPPENING is this......."



The third dimension had a rough start. The first time Jesus shared it tentatively half his audience left. I experienced that two weeks ago at the Oast house Conference. I shared with Andre that the same thing had occurred with me when I was 16 in Darmstadt West Germany in 1974. I literally had a nun practically frogmarch me from the bookshop (I loved linear thinking) down to the room where Mother Basilea, fresh from 2 weeks fasting and praying about Mao's invasion of Europe, flaming with heaven's fire scorched us on the inside with two "third dimension" or third level messages. The third stage of growth begins with us hearing a proper version of the 2nd level or 2nd dimension. Before we hear it we are strutting around the 2nd area of the Tabernacle with no real clue why we are in there, what it's for, and can we really go now, and evangelise the world because Jesus You are clearly wasting our time by bringing us in here in the first place, when we could be on Sattellite TV being more talking heads!!! And then we'd be famous....and then everybody will love me....and then......



Jesus suddenly with no health warning whatsoever announced to the disciples

"Unless you eat of my flesh, and drink of my Blood, you HAVE (now already) NO LIFE WITHIN YOU."

Ouch. Ouch.Ouch.Ouch. That bolt just came from out of His innards, out of His spirit and hit them in the same place.

Ouch.



You see I get a little alarmed hearing Andre and Francois speak. Their understanding of the Word is incredible. The blessing side of their ministry is undeniable. But in all the "short" time I have been with them I have not heard a single "bolt" coming from their innards, nothing that would make half their congregation disappear. And OK, it didn't happen all the time with Jesus. But reading the gospels through with this "3rd dimensional" perspective going on you start to see Jesus was continually causing trouble. Unlike some of the youngsters out on the circuit today, it wasn't rudeness....

It was that Jesus continually hit the Ezekiel 10:8 scrawlings that were the foundations of the people's lives He was talking to.

I used to wonder what on earth Ed Miller was going on about when he continually referred to various psalms which speak about God's voice like lightning, laying waste the foundations....

What foundations? What voice? I don't hear no voice...(Bit like Ghostbusters)



But 3 hours later , I'd leave an Ed Miller meeting and the whole of my innards would be shot through with lightning marks.



So what is the Holy Place for? If the Outer Court area is one dimensional....it gets us properly saved and knowing Jesus so we can also tell others....what is the Holy Place, the young man stage , the 2 dimensional stage all about?

Well, it's where our soul gets the KINGDOM treatment. It's where our heart , mind and will get KINGDOMIZED big time.

As I write in my blogpost which is one of the most read of all

http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2010/04/this-is-not-christian-life-study-in.html

Like Rene Magritte and Ceci n'est pas une pipe......the 12 lumps of shewbread and the candlestick

ARE NOT THE KINGDOM

They are about the Kingdom. They are the sattellite TV shows telling you about the Kingdom. They are even the manifestations of Power, and revelation and prophecy, which we receive on our insides which BECOME the Kingdom in us, like growing seeds,

but they themselves ARE NOT THE KINGDOM.



The Kingdom itself is in one place only.

The Holiest Place. Where God is.

For millennia we have known that.

What we haven't known is that the KINGDOM

IS US.

FULL TIME.Flesh incarnations of walking talking GOD in our forms

with the Presence of God, and the Spirit manifestations overhead backing us up.

It's Jesus fused with us. We have eaten Him. Literally.

Our little acacia/human flesh boxes are now covered with gold on our insides and out.

Inside us full time are the 10 commandments . The Word that Francois and Andre are sharing. The LOGOS.

But inside us also is the stick that budded. Faith operations, intercession operations which we speak by the Word of faith like Nancy Gilmore. Not only that , there's the MANNA word (Manna actually always meant...what on earth is that?) Manna word is what both Andre and Francois don't preach. Manna is RHEMA. It's the NOW Word that goes off after a day and begins to smell.

And overhead is an awesome Presence of God where things like Josh Mills and his glory gold dust fall every time he plays in churches. that is unless you are not wiping oil off your face at the same time. These are various wacky things God just enjoys doing which are never the same, but accompany His Word.

This is what is meant by the Incarnate Christ. It is this the Devil has not wanted. Doesn't care too much about sattellite TV or Pentecostal Christianity or whatever...... In revelation it says it's the MANCHILD he wants to chase off God's earth!

He absolutely does not want a COMPLETE TOWER. A 3dimensionsal, walking/ talking /working/worshipping/ sleeping/marrying/kid raising manifestation of the incarnation of Christ. He hates 3 dimensions. Because 3 dimensions means that his thousands of yours of reviling God's Word is UP

"NOW IS the manifestation of the Glory of God made known IN THE CHURCH TO ALL PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS!"
Selah

Notes
Epistemology is a long word I learnt of another learned brother's Christian blog. It means the study of truth, or how do we know or test the truth to be the truth.
Christian history is full of people saying the same words but meaning totally different things underneath. This article brought up a few discussions.

Let's go back one level and discuss the NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD.
Now this phrase is said in every church nearly every Sunday. But let's take a typical Anglican Church. They say this phrase because it is a theologically correct thing to say, but if you test the spirit of what is meant in most Anglican churches
what it doesn't mean is Jeremiah 31 as follows:
It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
and
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.

34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."

The Anglican church is run exactly like the Jewish synagogue predecessor but with Christian attachments...so yes it is not the new covenant actually but a rehash of the old one.You still have a presbytery who stand between you and God, and they still teach you to know the Lord because no one really does. And every week there is remembrance of sin. And every week people are NOT taught the New Covenant which is the very Divine principle within that makes us not want to sin, becausewe are too busy with our New Father's business.

Got that?

Well in the same way Francois rightly points out that you can learn about the Tabernacle and it can, if taken in a wrong spirit, make you just like Martha was when Lazarus died and Jesus arrived in her eyes "late". She put everything Jesus was about to do today off into some resurrection sunrise at the back of beyond. Jesus looked straight at her and said effectively: Hellooo, I AM the resurrection and the Life.....Let's go do it!!!
So Francois writes:
The logos was logos before any one heard it preached, Gods logic didnt become logic or truth by popular vote why always look for a justified season, 4 months for the full harvest to manifest! Weve been sucked into that for centuries! Like th...e Jews we quickly buy into stuff that makes us delay and postpone the hour that has already come! That way they missed the Messiah in their midst! theyre still waiting. Instead, lift up your eyes and see the ripe harvest!
the temple isnt under construction for 2010 years and eventually Gods gonna remove a bit of the scaffolding to show the prophets the real thing! It was done to perfection in 3 days! levels keep sincere pple occupied with excuses to remain for another couple of laps in the wilderness!
and.............
The Greeks are here to see you! What did Jesus hear when he heard that the nations seek him? He heard what he read in Haggai...he knew that he was the desire of the nations! No wonder that he responded: "The hour has come for the son of man... to be glorified! This is the moment that the prophetic word was all about, the moment all creation was waiting for! (How will that happen, How will God glorify the son of man, after Adam lost the glory on man's behalf?) unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone
You cannot feed a family of 4 let alone the nations with a single grain of wheat! This was the hour of the fulfilment of the mission of Jesus, to die our death and to be raised into the full harvest of mankind’s redemption! It bore much fruit! The single grain of wheat did not abide alone! (Jesus could only be at one place at one time; he couldn’t be in Jerusalem and Japan at the same time as a single individual, but he’s about to be multiplied beyond count in the harvest of human lives)

We were made alive together with him, (while we were still dead in our sins, before we understood or believed any of his mission) the nations were raised together with him and seated together with him in heavenly places!!!

no wonder then that the first people to be identified as living the Christ life, were those same Greeks from John 12 (amongs others) but now they sat under Pauls message and discovered Christ not in Jerusalem, but Christ revealed in them! Acts 11

Our point of departure is the throne room! Col 3:1-4 Eph 2:5,6, 1:17...(not as a reward for mature believers after many years of churchianity and ‘moves’ and waves of revivals) as fresh, brand new believers! because there is only one faith, God's.


to which Nancy Gilmore replied
In to us! In to us! The first two levels, (little children, young men), are into us! A Complete Christ in to us! We are DONE! We are operating as a WHOLE person in Christ; spirit, soul and body. As a whole person in Christ we operate on this third level, which is: what the Spirit has produced in us, (Christ fully formed!), He now goes out by us and produces Christ in others! Others are the benefactor now of our lives; even at our expense! Spirit-spirit union is co-crucified with Christ as co-risen with Christ!
I think Francois is not getting the reality which Nancy is speaking
because he comes back with the Spirit done deal package again (which ofcourse is fine...and I especially like the phrase in red.)


There is a dimension of life available to man that exceeds every bonsai boundary that we’ve imagined, inherited or created. “The thief comes with only one agenda, to steal, kill and destroy; (W...hat is he after? He fears your knowledge of the likeness of God in human form!) Jesus came that you might have life more abundantly!” John 10:10. “If you continue in My Word, you will know the truth (about yourself) and the truth will set you free.” Christ gives true context and definition to life in its most complete display. “It is in Him that God gives a full and complete expression of Himself in a human body. Moreover, your own completeness is only realised in Him.” Col.2:9,10, Phillips translation. The original blueprint design is intact in Him; this is the fuel of belief. Faith is not a blind-fold leap in the dark! Faith sees the complete picture. Neither is faith a luxury option, it is the substance of our being, it is our ears with which we hear the eternal voice, our enlightened eyes, and the hand with which we harvest life, and it is our only escape from the agenda of darkness. “Whatever is not prompted by faith is reduced to flesh.” Rom.14:23.

...and this is a summary of the Afrikaans thought 4 today...
1 Kings 6:7 "not a sound of a hammer or chisel or any tool was heard! Because every stone was already cut to precision and perfection in the quarry! Isa 51:1 there is only one quarry where this could possibly happen! man's co-crucifiction and co-resurrection in Christ, in God's economy!

Both Nancy and I are NOT saying we wait to "eventually" get some Holy of Holies experience.
The last article and last blogpost expressly states it is true for us in our spirit the day we enter Christ, and from God's point of view He looked forward to it having already seen us in Him before Creation was ever thought of. What we are saying is there is a time when we have made it ours, and we walk confidently in it. We've passed the driving test and God leads us out onto the roads. Now we have "our gospel", not somebody else's. Now we're going into action because we really know who it is who is living our life. Before, even as a Christian, we didn't really.

As well as the prophetic being pushed aside (now as unnecessary, because the perfect in Christ has come), the other big alarm bell was almost a brushing aside of spiritual history. There's no point in trying to claim anything with spiritual history other than this.....genuine spiritual history is wrought by God. It is impossible for me to work, it doesn't reflect on anything other than my "failure". It is the measure that He has worked in me by the power of His own faith, some measure of fusion. We are saying, not just that I am totally complete in my spirit in Christ, but some measure of Incarnation in me has occurred. And owning this , knowing this and declaring the possibility of this is the devil's worst nightmare. As it was when Jesus said "Follow Me." and "Come and see". Because we have gone beyond "faithing into something "Jesus has already completed at the Cross ,to KNOWING it IS HE who has done it in me, and continues to do it in me. If I for an instant slip back into a false independent position and claim that it is I of my own empowering...not only will I quickly fall, but the truth (certainly about such and such an area) is not in me.
I have absolutely no idea what people do with the verse Revelation 19:10 the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. We cannot even connect with the true Jesus and not be prophetic in some way or another. We are calling into being things that are not. We are pulling all the "done deals" out of heaven by faith...His faith.

So our epistemology is
what does our spirit say is true about what the Cross has done for us
what have I proved works in my life because I see God has worked victories
what do my brothers and sisters hold as Truth as we all walk together in the Light, which Nancy has pointed out is our Fellowship with the Father and His Son Jesus....ie....a defined fellowship
and more specifically I would add
what emerges as Truth according to scripture in the context of the real Presence of God and the prophetic as we worship and wait on Him without agenda.
The Bible describes as mature those who have trained their senses according to righteousness.
This has nothing to do with works and everything to do with living with/alongside and experiencing the righteousness that is by grace alone. Put these sort in a meeting, they will not be happy with any other kind of fellowship, than the fellowship they "know" by experience with their Father and their friend Jesus.