News from Havant Towers September 06 2009

A brief description of the Main Meeting and the evening Key of David meeting.

River type meetings are hard to post. You have to be there. Describing them they sound really naff. Until about the time , like at RIVERCAMP someone's blind eye pops open! Tree type meetings are easier. For more on the Tree and the River read here.

The top building with Towers is the Meridian Shopping Centre in Havant. The inside picture shows Portsdown Community Church centre, known as the Beacon Centre as a dark blob on the first floor right at the end of the upstairs concourse. Presumably this was taken when the Centre was not being used. It really is not that gloomy. Or we'd be praying for everyone to have depression lifted off them as they came in.

I am not going to post the "evidence" from the main meeting, which is a crafted prayer. And ofcourse this is more the Tree side of things. Crafted prayer, is a specially constructed prayer, which like an express vision or goal, once written, focusses everyone on a direction.

This particular one has this background. And more for this reason I post this, because this will be a lot more relevant on a wider scale.

A lot of individuals and churches have prophetic words over their lives. Many still unfulfilled. We read in Daniel, that when he understood the allotted time period of the Jewish exile in Babylon was 70 years, he set about seeking God that He would bring His Word to pass. Peter Stott was also bringing the Havant Church promises before God, and felt God say to him..."You have not because you ask not. "Then he was given the strategy of bringing many of the promises together into one crafted prayer which the whole church can pray and seek God with for the next 40 days.

The book of Daniel shows we can be way too "laissez faire" about prophecies, when as gatekeepers to this earth, it is actually up to us to midwife them and see them come to pass.

The KOD meeting was more of a River affair , but was again something else!Helen Rubio tends to lead these, but quite often like last night, this is more of a "non-leading". So it began with us connecting with the holy Presence of God, initially without song.

In recent months, Peter later shared that things have moved on from different revelations about the Father, to zoning more on the Person of Christ again. This is not a human led decision. This is the corporate experience of the many waiting before God. Last night was about Jesus the conqueror upon the White Horse.

These type of meetings lead into specific directions of what to pray for. Yesterday was about the Spanish speaking peoples all over the world, including our contacts with Argentina, and specifically praying fresh waves of Holy Spirit activity into Spain. Then as Molly Osbourne is going as part of Lydia (UK Women's prayer Organisation like Women Aglow in USA) over to Poland, we focussed for awhile on Poland.

The point in even mentioning this is twofold. Holy Spirit directed praying is powerful in its effects. It is specific. It is a God timing thing. And you know He means business. As we see in the lives of Nicholas and Pam( who by the way when they went to Iceland to pray....were sent the precise week of the Icelandic bank crash...something no one saw coming!)

Secondly, this is written to encourage those living in those regions. If God is using our time, which could equally be used full time just on the UK alone, on your territories you know something's up!!!!

From the Mystery of Sin to the Mystery of Syn IV - Spain

Whether we talk about John Noble ministering into Spain, or Salt and Light groups ministering into the Continent, or Rob Rufus ministering with teams into mainland China, or as here Peter and Mariette Stott over in Spain... there has been a change of style in ministering to other countries. And pretty much needed too!
Now it is going to a place and being open to what the Holy Spirit is doing -incubating-building in that place...and unique to that place. You are midwives.

In the 80s God spoke to me regarding future ministry using the example of Joseph,Mary's husband.. I shared it with a pastor of a young church in High Wycombe. Jesus said there are some who are born eunuchs, some who become eunuchs and some who make themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of God.

One of the things this means is that you become those who care for the building of God's family...but there's nothing in it for you. No lineage. No personal seed. Like Joseph , you have all the negatives of taking "the shame " of the Kingdom (at least in the world's view) as your own. Joseph took the shame of wedding an unmarried mother. But although later on, he had children by Mary....he had no part in engendering the conception of Jesus. He just had to look on, cover, and support Mary.To his own hurt.

SO IT IS when we are pastors. The relationship God has with each believer is personal and private. Many denominations have practised the very opposite of this pattern...stating you have to go through a priest or minister before you can get anywhere near God. When God's true servants are to be like Joseph, taking the shame,bearing the burdens, seeing the Kingdom built, without a single plus point for themselves...other than knowing they have been honorable to do what God has given them to do.

SO IT IS when we go to other lands in these days to be a part of what God is raising up there. We can teach principles. We can help lead people into the Presence of God...

But all this Network stuff with brand Names and quirky ways of doing things which may be natural in one country...but totally unsuitable in another nation....all this isn't on anymore.Sorry to upset all the youngsters presently in ministry training who can't wait to get out there and build there own little empires!!The Kingdom of God actually only has One Name. And He is a Person. Rather tentatively then I just share this email from last week. The writers probably would not like this. But it illustrates this new "syn" way of doing things. Where the Body builds of itself...and we are there to encourage, input, or simply look on and watch.

Thank you again for praying ....... on a general note first........

It is becoming more and more clear that the "season" is changing in Spain. Since our early excursions into Burgos in the mid 80's, things have distinctly changed, and the freedom of the Spirit and maturity of the churches is more and more evident. Maybe 25, or so, years is a reasonable span of time over which to assess real transition. Our last two trips out - to Seville and Navalcarnero (Madrid) have been really encouraging and in evidence of this.

In the Seville report, sent last week, we testified to the Lord moving in healing and in Madrid it was in salvation and healing. On the Saturday night, the Holy Spirit was moving powerfully over the church and there was a release a of refreshing and of joy - in the midst of His moving two people came to salvation. On the Sunday morning the joy increased and a number of folk responded to words of knowledge for healing - one lady testifying to being healed straight away.

The public teaching and ministry focused on receiving forgiveness (and a release of shame) and an emphasis on forgiving ourselves for past sins etc. It was wonderful to see a lot of people setting themselves free in this way, with many tears and much joy. (This aspect of people using their Spiritual authority to release themselves is a powerful revelation - both amongst our home church and as we travel - it is a key.)


Over many years, it has been a "dream" to see the Lord healing / delivering / saving just by exposure to His wonderful love and presence. It is now, twenty years on, that we see this is beginning. Over the past twelve months, now, in numerous situations He has moved in this way. It is with the minimum of human intervention - our part is to make time / space / and opportunity for His Spirit - for us, worship has always been a key to this .... it is sovereignly the Lord and no one can "own" it!

Thank you for praying - the leaders team meeting of one of the other Madrid churches on Friday afternoon was calm and we were able to face some difficult issues together. It is ongoing business, so there is need for prayer to continue. On the wider level in the Buenas Noticias network there is a noticeable release in the ministry of women - in fact, at the national conference next weekend there is a female speaker from their own ranks for the first time.

We are hugely grateful to Jose, whose participation in the flow of the Spirit and times of tireless translation were really amazing.

Somewhere in all of this, we are learning more and more about time and process in the unfolding of a vision...... we still await the fullness of the promise ....... but are pressing in for it ......

This is our last trip outside UK until after the "Crowned with Glory" Conference (it will be to Santander at the end of May)