Sunday, 9 July 2017
A Summary or Abbreviated teaching on the Gates of Jerusalem
What the apostolic figure Arthur Wallis knew he shared around 72 or 73 in Fountain Trust one meeting Michael harper was away, but in so doing he opened a door in the Spirit for at least 6 or 7 Gates, by which all our secondlevel churches were established as our generation sought God for His ways to be re established in His Church.
Quite without anybody that I know preaching on it, the Spirit has been completing the installation right up to Gate 12.
What is a Gate in the Spirit? It is a portal of God's power and life. These are doors you go through, in and out. The gospel is the power and the grace of God. If they were just off the shelf doctrines I personally wouldn't be interested. Nerds would. No, these are facets of the corporate experience of the life of God
They represent cycles also in the seed harvest flow of God.
Complete a cycle in the Spirit and you WILL HAVE a GATE 9 revival. Having kids ain't random. it involves a bedroom most often, and a woman and a man. Revivals, like walking round Jericho are not random. If we DO the stuff the Spirit engages us in....revival follows.
Anybody who walks with God will know more than they think about these gates already, so if I summarise them you will see that the Holy Spirit has already taught you much.
Gate 1 the Sheep Gate
Discipling people to Christ. There are many pastors in a local Body ( the current practice of a CEO pastor isn't what is happening in the Spirit, which is why we all experience conflict between what God is ACTUALLY doing spontaneously and the stupid tithed role of a pyramid pastor overlord.
Pastoring in the Spirit is a eunuchs only job. You are pastoring people not to yourself but as quickly as possible getting people up and running with hearing the Spirit and doing.
You are really discipling not doctrine....but your own life of
proverbs 3:5 and 6
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not rely on your insight ,Acknowledge God in all your ways and He will make straight your paths"
Gate 2
The Fish Gate
As soon as people are born again they spread the good news about the free salvation of God. Come and drink without price, and more pastoring goes on to ground these. God's heart is for the one lost sheep, not the nicely fed and watered 99.
God's heart is evangelism to reach more lovely people!!!!
Gate 3
The Old Gate
All the Holy Spirit revealed things thus far.
The Bible. The genuine moves of God and revelation of God
Also the genuinely authentic ABOUT YOU created in God before the foundation of the world and before sin even got a look in.
The reason we don't heap up prayers like gentiles is there is too much real communication to be had by going into our inner rooms to meet with Dad. About His plans for us, about His plans for the earth
Gate no 4 the valley Gate and Gate no 5 the Dung Gate
Matthew 5 makes it obvious the sort of paths we will be treading. days of humbling and difficulty to give us practice at being thrown onto God's solutions.
Also to reveal the depths of our independent self patterns, while learning all the time more about who we really are in Christ.
Ultimately this leads to our knowledge in Romans 6 that we have really died. Our spirit is our main not secondary identity....and we have really died with Jesus on the cross. This isnt religious fantasy....that was you dying there, and now we are raised in Him and we have a brand new creation identity inside us.
Gates 6 and 7 are the Fountain gate followed by the Water Gate. And they told us that Fountain Trust, the baptism in the Spirit teaching organisation under Michael Harper so nearly got called Watergate....but that broke as news a few months later.
If people haven't obeyed Christ's instructions to repent , be baptised (in water) and be filled or baptised in the Spirit, months or possibly decades of evangelicalism will cause enough burnout such that people give up, and let God !!!!
Not by Might nor by power but by my Spirit says the Lord.
We learn the ongoing life of Spirit flow , the ongoing Water Gate) first in meetings then in the whole of our lives.
As He is so ARE WE in the world!!!!
We only do what we see the Father doing. Psalm 123.
Gates no 8,9,10,11 and 12 are thirdlevel gates. They appear at the moment only with particularly anointed individuals, but the idea through our thirdlevel gifting is tat they become resident at all times in all places in every church.
And as this spells the end of Satan on planet earth, this is why all Christians have more or less been against Norman Grubb's message. It has been Satan all along working WITHIN the people of God to prevent this message.
BUT LIFE and all its abundance doesn't actually work properly in our churches at the moment because these keys are missing.
Gate 8 is the Horse Gate or intercession and warfare. Opened in a big way in the 90s through Peter Wagner, Cindi Jacobs, Ed Silvoso and Suzette Hattingh from her real world experiences with Rheinhard Bonnke, and territorial warfare.
Gate 9 takes on new meaning after DeeDee Winter Winter shared with Linda Bunting and Paul Anderson-Walsh about Jesus Coming soon.
Jesus soon coming is happening all the time everywhere people are believing for it. It has the same dynamic as Jesus preaching The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. And Isaiah says His Name is Emmanuel, God with us. This is what the servants of the Lord speak out and declare.
The Eastern Gate, Gate 9, is Jerusalem's Front Door. It is the same door for the unbeliever who comes in (in type form) from the East, moving to the setting sun or completion in the West, as it is for Jesus when He returns.
The Soon Coming of Jesus is as bound up in heavenly visitation as it will finally be the consummation of Jesus Coming Soons exercised across the earth. The bride and the Holy Spirit say two types of Come in Revelation 22. To the fullness of the tribes we cry Come drink without price, and to the Bridegroom we say Come .
Gate number 10 , as indeed all the Gates are abbreviations for whole aspects of God in the Church.
The gate of Miphkad was traditionally the Gate of Judgment, the Gate where elders judged for israel and concerning the qulaity of the worship animals.
In the Spirit the gate of Miphkad is a mystery we are walking into. In its transitional form it is a democracy, but democracy is weakened by the spirit of error being still at large. It was democracy that chose Barabbas, being influenced by Satans servants disguised as priests. In the Spirit we are caught up in the Order of Melchizedek to function as king priests. All our meetings should be excercising us in this realm. As Paul said in Hebrews regarding the Tabernacle and I echo him, about all the Gates I have much apostolically to say but these are the abbreviations of this Kingdom City that comes down from above.
Gate Number 11 has been opened to us by John G Lake, by Smith Wigglesworth, by many of the healing evangelists and including Morris Cerullo who actually preaches on the Double Anointing.
This is the Gate of Ephraim that had to be doubly blessed to make up for the loss of the tribe of Dan.
It seems a double anointing is preceeded by extreme need. In Acts 4 it was the very real death threats of the religious Jews in Jerusalem. God's power lays bare the hearts and pride of men. Much in God is by "step" and "daily advances"....Psalm 19....day to day pours forth speech...
and "in returning and rest shall you be saved", "line upon line precept upon precept"
But a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as one day.
God's power in a moment can change everything. Like the Jesus Move in the 60s.
Like John Wesley and Whitfield.
Like God stepping in suddenly and almost absurdly with Brexit and Donald Trump.....it leaves everybody astounded.
Or Hitler suddenly turning away from Britian to Russia
Or the rescue of the troops in one day from Dunkirk in every boat that could be scrambled.
Rothschild lulls us into the thinking described in the Bible "everything contiin ues as it did from the begiining", now with the additional fairy tale of man being 300,000 years old with no mountain sized piles of dead bones anywhere to be seen!!!.
On one day Joshua announced we are going into the Land!!!! The thirdlevel message is no different.
This is Jesus is Lord consciousness!!!
The final Gate 12 is the thirdlevel dynamic. The Prison Gate.
Allowing God to shut us into places on behalf of others, to set them free.
Paul entered this Gate big time and it became for him a dynamic. So I feel Hebrews was probably written by Paul especially when he describes what is effectively the Prison Gate programme....
10 We have an altar from which those who serve the [c]tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come.
By the time we have proved the goodness of the Lord and the Power of His resurrection coming through, what is deemed as something terrible and terrifying becomes to us an "engine" for driving the Kingdom of God forward.
Friday, 24 March 2017
....And that is the problem, nobody has seen a thirdlevel church....
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so everybody is blissfully unaware that there is a thirdlevel, they have only ever met first and secondlevellers.
You start to see how Jesus caused such a reaction, being the first ever thirdleveller on earth.
Even in the East they get the thirdleveller business. They call them gurus. Sadhu Sundar Singh Sadhu Sevelraj is following on.
Watchman Nee and Witness Lee, the two Chinese men clearly impart the Union message.
Flipping eckulo even Star Wars understands thirdlevellers: people who are bigger on their inside than out, like Yoda. Smith Wigglesworth used this Tardis phrase before Dr Who.
There it is for all to read
1 John 2 children young men fathers
Like a Seed, falling ito the griound, you shall be raised
Go the Way to the Truth find the Life
Abide in My Word....No really abide in my Word like disciples, find the truth, the truth shall set you free
Abraham (faithlife) Isaac (uncover wells - supernatural charisms) Jacob (wrestle until you get your Name change)
12 disciples were Jews of the Old Covenant, Jesus picked them and raised them in the charismatic, but after catastrophic failure they discovered their real new identity and became Life giving Fathers and apostles in Acts
Moses first level in Egyot, secondlevel with the sheep, thirdlevel in ministry
What on earth is Don K. Preston on about?It really is like the old days in 1972 trying as a 13 year old to lead a Church of Scotland minister and his wife into the baptism in the Spirit.
They were just the same as Don is, and the Pharisees and Saducees were with Jesus. If you see Spirit stuff it's obvious....but if you don't..... you really don't. Its really one of the wonders of the world. it's as bad as showing a molar that has completely grown in your mouth in a meeting to an atheist.
" There's no proof"
You slap your head in a Homer Simpson fashion
Saturday, 6 July 2013
Final Part of the Covenant Series P19: The Bond of the Covenant by Daniel Yordy
Order the Book Here
Final Observations:
Let every word You speak be fulfilled in me
in all that You mean and forever.
Thursday, 28 May 2009
Life in Three Dimensions
Parables I realised recently are God's way of flicking us over from left-brain "meter" or "law-based" thinking if you will, to a more comprehensive "picture" or "creative" way of thinking usually associated with the right brain.
I've covered this material briefly here. But again I want to say this. In the 90s when this right brain /leftbrain stuff came out it was such a release for us artist/musical/prophetic types that we made the mistake of relating the right-brain to our spirits. On this blog I have been careful not to do this.
Spirit is spirit. It is NOT material. Brain is brain. It IS material. It is the electrical mechanics behind our thinking. And mind....well...it's our soul, but like spirit you can never pinpoint it...though materialist thinkers (using materialist in its original philosophical meaning) think the electrical signals is all there is to us.
Electrical readings show us we use parts of our brain for different skills...sometimes on their own ,sometimes together. They also show that in a healthy person we have some sort of telephone exchange system between the two sides of our brain.
Dyslexia,dyspraxia (poor physical co-ordination) autism, synesthesia......all show up as different ways of processing.
I was listening to Frank Viola today who again referenced our Western tendency to Aristotelian thinking. Tony Fitzgerald used to call it "Greek thinking" as opposed to Biblical "Hebrew"thinking.
Proverbs is Hebrew thinking...where knowledge is one thing....but wisdom is quite another.
There's a proverb which illustrates the difference. It says somewhere "A proverb in the mouth of a fool is like a man who hasn't the use of his legs."
When we speak wisdom from our spirits IT HAS LEGS. ("That'll walk!!!") It comes out of our lives. Out of the core of our existence.
When an Anglican Bishop who is not even born again speaks the word "God", to a born again person it sounds like an empty sound; it often sounds like his mouth is full of a large potato when he mouths the word. It has no legs, so to cover the reality of the situation, his mouth seems to go into overdrive to make up for the deficiency.
So you can't say Left-brain bad, right-brain good....because you need both to function.
What you cannot do is live from your left-brain alone. And Proverbs 3:5 highlights way too much dependance on our reasoning powers and practically no "trusting" going on in our heart. This has some amazing repercussions. I have covered some already but in future posts I want to cover "how prophets think", I want to cover the mad way Brits and Americans do politics.... and the fundamental differences between how different character types
process information. Here's a nugget to get you going. I lived for a year in France and getting enrolled as a self-employed tuner in their system was something else!!!
I learned this truth: Bureacracy is inversely proportional to the amount of Truth manifest in a nation. You think France is bad...just go to Italy. What does that say about Catholicism???
So back to this post.
What is the Third Level?
It isn't what you think it is.
Traditional left-brain Greek mentality thinking imagines a series of 3 steps going higher and higher. So ofcourse this is offensive because if you claim to be "on the third-level" you are putting yourself above someone else.
Surprisingly and gob-smackingly it is none of this. In a moment I'll give the parable picture. But now I will give some examples.
Ursula describes in her School of Prophecy post being caught up to heaven. So there you are with the Director of all directors, the One who has knowledge of the end from the beginning. You must surely be in for some deep spiritual revelation to confound all others. This surely is a Third-level meeting. Well it confounds others all right. Jesus whirrs you round in His arms. Hugs you. Looks full in your face. Beams with love!!! That's the third-level. I'm so sorry to disappoint the theologians!
Now if this was a freak one-off occurrence you could put this down to Ursula not being quite up to the deep things of God ,so this was Jesus humouring her. But no....
When Roberts Liardon went as a young boy, he was pretty impressed, because Jesus played splash with him in the River of Life. You know deep stuff like that.
When Jesse Duplantis went he described a carbon copy of many of the things Ursula saw, but Jesus was really keen to show him the house he'd had built for him. Jesus had rigged him up with a quadrangle with a fountain, and loads of 17th century type furniture, because he knew Jesse loves that stuff. Jesse said, "I can see you Jesus. I can see the Father. Um...I thought there were three of You? Where's......."
Jesus just looked at him. Jesus grinned. Jesse felt a bit embarrassed. "Oh ofcourse, He is on Earth, preparing the Bride!!!! What a nana I am? How could anyone be so stupid?"
Back on Earth now in revival. And that's what the third level is....it's continuous revival. What do you find?
You find Evan Roberts face down on the podium around 1905 and 6. Only getting up to say something as directed. Quite often he said nothing. And he was the acknowledged leader of the meeting! This is third level!!!
Or you read of Mel Tari , 60 years later. Just going around with a load of friends, being led to do miracles. Without title.Without name. Just lifting up the Name of Jesus. Just loving Jesus with all your heart, soul and strength.Just enjoying the ride.
This is third level.
Third level is what John Stevens writes on his blog about thin places. The wall between the 3rd heaven and here on earth appears to be paper thin.
After Evan Roberts, the Pentecostal movement was born...then some pressed onward into Apostles and prophets, and the Apostolic movement was born. But really , it was like a retreat, back from 3rd level stuff into a more humanly comfortable 2nd level. They couldn't go back to the 1st level, because having tasted the heavenly gifts....well who would ever want to go back that far? But nevertheless....all the "man-directed" junk reappeared. The labels. ...the superintendents..... the heirarchies. And running meetings in the raw effusion of the order of Melchizedek... well the Presence of God wasn't enough anymore!
Here's another third-level truth.
On the way into the tabernacle there are no steps.
In Anglicanism there are steps. You start as a curate. You become a vicar. Then you become a Bishop. Your ermine gets thicker!!! Your penguin costumes get more and more elaborate. You'd better believe there are steps!!! Bishops and vicars have to then perform this mental juggling act between what is read out in the scriptures in a 2 yearly cycle or whatever....so everything that Jesus says about becoming a servant etc.....has to be mentally squared up with the way Anglicanism is run! No wonder some of them have breakdowns! One of my friends has recently de-vicared!!!
Because the tabernacle has no steps...they are forbidden..."lest they show the shame of man's weakness"....the 3rd level or Holy of Holies is on the same level as anything else in the Tabernacle!!!
Here's another 3rdlevellism!!!
Every single human on Earth was taken into the bosom of the Father at the Cross - in Jesus.
The problem is ignorance. People don't know that!!
Every single Christian was born again in the 3rd Level...the Holy of Holies....when Jesus ascended into the heavenlies right into the Holiest Place. This is made clear in Ephesians 1 and 2.
But the god of this world has blinded our eyes. Now some have escaped into level 1. They know Jesus has forgiven them their sins. Some have escaped into level 2 and now manifest the spiritual gifts, lead people to Jesus, and build networks of 2nd levellers. But Juan Carlos Ortiz prophesied that there would come a time when everybody would be born again in the third level, the Holy of Holies....here on earth. The New Covenant...when everyone would know the Lord from the least to the greatest.
And the foretaste of that was Florida last year!!! It wasn't just the Todd Bentley show. Nicholas and Pam were there. Peter Stott was there. Leaders from Southampton and Chichester were there. Basil De Souza came back so zapped...while he was preaching he looked at somebody in India and they were levitated to the ceiling in the glory, such was the Fire of God coming out from his eyes.
The doors of the 3rd level were ajar!!! It was the "Jesus in His worldwide Body" show as televised by God Channel!
But let me explain again what this blog is about.
Suppose the Father gives you a bike. And while enveloping you in His arms, you're sitting on the bike enjoying balancing. And each meeting He gets the bike out, and because He is there holding you very firmly, you are able to balance while the bike is stationary.
Well after several meetings would you not be saying to the Father..."I'm getting a bit frustrated, because you gave me this bike, and you are getting me on it every meeting...but when do I get to actually ride it myself and learn to balance on my own?"
"No. No son. This bike is only for Josh Mills meetings with the gold dust. It won't work out on the roads!!"
Well ofcourse that's silly. And that's the point of this blog. This blog is saying that 3rd level Christianity is precisely that. It's taking Christ in your form, as you...and living him out on the road. Learning to balance the bike yourself. And the glory of this Jesus life is that it works!!!
By faith. By His grace. Not of our own works. But it genuinely is Him living our life. And we activate it as we activate anything by stepping out on His Word. By believing in our heart and by confessing with our mouth. Like Dan who continually writes and says "Iam the righteousness of God in Christ!" Whew that's a powerful one!
But that's not the parable.
It's in answer to this question that has been buzzing in my mind for months."If this 3rd level thing has nothing to do with elitism...how on earth do I articulate that in left-brain words. How do I say I am exploring the 3rd level without it sounding really like I'm saying I am something special."
Well I believe this is one of those nuggets that Jesus has breathed Himself. It's like this.
Three dimensions.
Physicists say a single point is a singularity. Imagine an infinitely small dot having no height, no width and no breadth. Add one dimension. Width. So you can now go from point A to another point B on the horizon but only in one line. Better than being stationary isn't it? Are you superior because you are making for point B, though you haven't arrived? No. No more superior than a person simply getting on a train. It's just something you do.
But supposing the place you want to reach is way over to the left and nowhere near where the A to B train is going. Well you could always use a car. A car moves in 2 dimensions. You can turn left and right.
Are you more superior because you use a car? Well Jeremy Clarkson says you are. But in reality it is just another tool that gives us slightly greater flexibility. But we're not saying we've arrived.
We're on our way. But in 2 dimensions.
Supposing we want to mend the space station which keeps breaking down. We're going to have to move in 3 dimensions. A rocket or rocket plane.
Have we arrived? Are we superior? No it's just a tool which has more manoeverability to allow us to move in three dimensions. Up as well as across and straight ahead.
This dimension parable picture is brilliant for another reason. It shows how a person can be born again in the third level but still has to go through all the growth stages. Something I couldn't quite get my head round, though I knew from Florida last year was true. All we are saying is that a third level seed of three dimensional Divine Life has been placed into a believer's spirit. That seed is perfect. Can't be improved on. Contains everything within it that the believer will ever need...."the Fulness of the Godhead bodily dwells within My Lord...etc...and we are complete in Him." But the 3 dimensional seed still has to grow
OUT
IN THREE DIMENSIONS.
But at least it is 3 dimensional seed.... not one or 2 dimensional seed that we've been preaching for nearly 2000 years...and getting only one or two dimensional results!!!!........meanwhile, where was I?
Ah yes....So any talk of 3rd level as having arrived...well Paul just said...I press on to know the power of His resurrection that if at all possible I may attain to the resurrection of the dead...Phew...to even be thinking like that.
Mind you this was the man, who having been stoned,left for dead, was prayed for by the brethren, gets up, and without even a cup of tea says..."Right, next town then!!!" It always reminds me of the Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, who loses all his limbs and fights on.
All third level is , is simply the revelation you need to get you out of that meeting room, away from those praise CDs, away from the prayer closet, away from 24/7 one hour prayer sessions
to a place where you start growing up into the Head
Fulltime
leaving meetings behind
but when you later go into them you turn them on their head
because you are a 3rdleveller
you live there.
You don't go to meetings so they can bless you.
You go to meetings so you can take them by the scruff of the neck and head them off in a 3rdlevel direction, before anyone knows what you are doing!
3rd level subversion...like Jesus walking to the front of a meeting reading Isaiah 61 then saying Today this is fulfilled amongst you.
Meanwhile a rabbi looks up, raises his thick eyebrows and says "Aherm! I don't remember that last sentence. Come again?What was that?"
Part of third level life is winding people up. I love the fact that by calling this blog "On to the 3rd Level"...tons of people stuck in their left-brains are thinking of Greek step mentality and that I am setting myself up as a super saint who has achieved step 3...and therefore hate this blog...
when really Ephesians says all of us have been caught up into the heavenlies and we operate now from there. 1st and 2nd levellers read these chapters out because they have to......but 3rd levellers are the only ones who dare to say
because this is TRUE we run our meetings this way. Today this is fulfilled before your very eyes!!!
Another 3rd levellism is that our God is not
The God of Abraham and Isaac.
For years we have effectively preached that.
Our God is
The God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.
This is the generation of Jacob...those who seek the face of the God of Jacob..Ps24
AND LIVE!
Sunday, 22 March 2009
This is Huuuuuuge!

I'm not sure it's hit everyone yet....
a) what this blog is about and b) how huge the implications are. Think huuuuuuuuge.
Gerald Coates and John Noble immediately saw the ramifications of what a true Spirit-filled people in the Earth would be. And they produced "Fulness " magazine. The distinction was this. "Restoration" magazine saw God restoring the church to a place where it would propel the message of the gospel out into the four corners of the Earth. "Fulness" magazine could see that God doesn't want to just save us to inhabit church meetings...He wants to fill us with the Fulness of Himself so we learn to carry on where Adam left off...living out our whole lives in a newness of life, issuing out of a relationship with God Himself. Perhaps a broader vision than just having charismatics exporting charismatic meetings everywhere.
Thing was....we only had secondlevel equipment at the time. And as fabulous as it was to prance about to Christine Noble's freedom dances....and to hire big halls and events and call them banquets......we were all just secondlevellers attending bigger meetings!!!!
But Maurice Smith's vision "The Glorious Church" is accurate. Gerald Coates and John Noble both saw that this was going to be nothing short of a new Reformation....maybe one that would put the Lutheran and Calvinist one right in the shade!!!
So this post is a kind of summary. In an unsubtle manner I am pointing with a 60 foot finger to the strands we have covered so far.
It all went wrong in the Garden...so this is where God is starting again. Most gracebloggers...in fact let's be clearer...just about all the charismatic movement...start too late. Tonight you can probably watch Creflo Dollar or Kenneth Copeland or Jesse Duplantis starting at Deuteronomy 28...declaring how God is reversing these Chapter 28 curses into the blessings at the beginning of the chapter.
Well....the gospel's better than that!!! See, you can have all those blessings and still feel as desperate as Dan Bowen does at times. I had no idea that was what was behind the cutting. Truly I feel torn apart when I read this...because you see folks...we are all in this together...we are all joined!!! And quite apart from this...although Jesus demands a total seriousness of heart regarding sin.....just as He does different aspects of sin...like fear...when He says...don't fear him who has power to hurt the body or kill...fear Him who has the Power over the 2nd Death...He who has the power to cast into hell... Or regarding wealth...it is harder for a camel to go through the eye of a needle....etc etc...or before removing the speck in your brother's eye, take the log out of your own....
These are all serious statements in the Spirit....but not meaning we have to take a knife to ourselves....but having got our attention He wants to tell us something worse....He has killed us. He killed us on the Cross, then bound up the resurrected remains in Himself...so if we want to find life and deliverance...we have to peer into Him in heaven to see Dan Bowen hidden with Christ in God. Then what we peer into in heaven becomes manifest out through our bodies on earth. Which is a far less bloody way of dealing with things...the only blood ofcourse being already shed 2000 years ago!!! Back to the post............
So what went wrong in Genesis 3? And what went right for us when Christ died and was raised to the right hand of God the Father.
- It's this simple..........PERIOD.
ADAM reached out an arm and grabbed a fruit.As he did so a false spirit entered his spirit chamber.Permanently. At the Cross, this false spirit was ejected from our spirit chamber.Permanently. Now we reach out an arm, leg,.....anything....believing it is Christ as me...in my form. PERIOD.This is expanded on here - Some Doors and Gates slammed shut. This has caused seismic problems for us. This and the reversal of this curse is discussed in Peter Stott's blockbuster message on Psalm 24 (Split into 4 parts)
- Last year and this year has been for our Havant church a completely fresh understanding of God as Father. Peter Stott has talked on intimacy with God for ages...but somehow it has been and still is God's timing for opening this as a well of understanding and revelation in the church.
Both the Havant May2008 Who is the King of Glory Conference - particularly Clive Jackson of Shaftsbury....and then Mark Stibbe's messages in RiverCamp2008 opened this whole area.
In Chapter 7 of Orphans and Heirs Mark Stibbe
writes about the cycle of grace.Original source Frank Lake"Clinical Theology".
The Cross restores this cycle to the right order.Acceptance - Feeding on it -til it becomes a fixed thing in us-then out of that we achieve.Beforehand, we were operating in reverse. It was a cycle of Law. Feeling hollow and useless we try to achieve,to work - to get a feeling of worth - then out of that to try and gain acceptance.Churches are full of this stuff. It is not my intention to say any more about this, because his book can be purchased here .But it is very important material. Just to say there is a very interesting paragraph on Jonathan Edwards.
One of the questionable aspects in the charismatic renewal has been the tendency to trust in external sensations rather than inward communion as the basis of assurance. There has been an unspoken
tendency to thirst after bodily reactions to God's power more than the inner testimony of the Spirit. This has created a culture in which shaking, falling, laughing, weeping, jerking and groaning have become the only signs that God truly loves and accepts us. Those who experience these things feel affirmed by God's touch. Those who don't experience them feel rejected and left out.
Jonathan Edwards wrote a great deal about the dangers of this particular tendency back in the First Great Awakening in eighteenth- century America. By the time he wrote his classic work, Religious
Affections, he had become very cautious about the more sensational phenomena associated with revival. For Edwards, the true sign of "grace in a believer's life was not constant visions (much of which he attributed to the imagination), nor the 'bodily exercises' (such as shaking and falling),
but those operations on the heart that are spiritual, supernatural and divine. In other words, Edwards looked on the heart of a person rather than on his outward appearances. His chief concern was whether or not a person knew in his heart something that could never have been discovered naturally and could only have been communicated through the work of the Holy Spirit. Did a person know the royal seal of the Prince of Princes? Did he know that the seal of the High King of heaven had been stamped upon his heart? This was what Edwards meant by the 'divine' operation of the Spirit, for nothing could be more divine than the revelation that we are God's children. This, then, is what Edwards called the witness of the Spirit-the revelation that we are the adopted children of God with attendantevidence of that fact in our lives. For Edwards, the crucial passage of scripture in this whole area is Romans 8:16, where Paul says that the Spirit witnesses to our spirits that we are the children of God. Edwards showed that the Spirit referred to is the Spirit of adoption that dwells in
us, leads and guides us, and disposes us to behave towards God as children towards a father. This is the Spirit of love that creates 'the disposition and temper of children, appearing in sweet childlike love to God, which casts out fear or a spirit of a slave'.Once the believer knows this internal work of the Spirit, he will never need 'multiplied signs' because he feels plainly the intuitive and immediate union with Abba, Father. This kind of operation could never be created by the flesh or inspired by the devil. While both an unholy and the human spirit can suggest scriptures and give false visions, neither can lead to genuine intimacy with Abba, Father. Jonathan Edwards"Religious Affections - Rob Rufus has been preaching on this fourth strand of what went on in the Garden.http://www.citychurchinternational.net/mp3_2/2009_02_15.zip We received a lying spirit about the nature of the goodness and greatness of God. This was because we swallowed Genesis 3:5 For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and (D)you will be like God, knowing good and evil." i.e He was holding out on us. Instead we would be like God. And in our independant godlike status we could judge things...weigh facts. And this is why our faithlife...our miracle life is like scaling a cliff face. because any faith that we are trying to muster is coming out of 2 false foundations. 1 - that we can be independant...this is Satan terrain...and 2. That God is a liar and He is not really that good. These 2 false roots need ripping out from the insides of our beings before we can ever get anywhere. This is why what Rob Rufus and Bill Johnson are preaching is so vital to the church at the moment. It is grace!. But it is WARFARE! Because God wants His Church back...to operate through...to reach the world.
So to sum up. The third level is not the same as the charismatic movement. It is deeper. It goes back further in time. It deals with the roots. In posts to come I want to deal with our left-brain living. Our manner of life that is darkened see Romans1/ Ephesians 2. The opposite in other words of living as the Bible instructs in Proverbs 3:5-6.
Rob James said last week while we prayed as men, that Time magazine had announced among the top 10 discernible trends of the immediate future would see a Rise in Calvinism, especially in the USA. This is what Iggy is up against. This Calvinism/Armenian debate is to this day stripping churches in places like Liss here in England.
Instead of getting into this I am going to now spell out the real truth! The real truth is that the English and the Americans, after centuries of wrangling are still locked into their left-brains. That is what this argument is showing. It is almost as if the recent waves of God from the Great Awakening onwards...have not happened. Churches are still filled with darkness.Jesus said"If the light within you is darkness....how great is the darkness!!!"
You may as well wrangle over the Trinity in the way Muslims do when confronted by Christian doctrines. The truth is that all these truths, and many many more to come fall instantly into place in the third level. So faced by wrangling males...and it usually is....ripping God's own church to shreds by their disobedience and darkness of thought, and shrivelled faithlife....I would say
SHUTUP! SIT DOWN! HAVE PATIENCE! LET GOD LOVE YOU. AND ALL WILL BECOME CLEAR ...once the idolatry of your own minds has been torn down...ready for God Himself to speak to You.
The other thing that will sort us out is something I've only just seen in the last few days. Those in the "Prophetic Voice" group in Facebook know that Jose asked me to put down the Ship Propulsion unit vision fom HMS Sultan Summer fete last year. The Lord only released this vision locally in the last Key of David meeting in Havant. But the original appeared in Dan's vaults on 21st June last year. (Keep an eye on our blogs...you will see stuff first here!) But what I have only just understood is that the ring burner ministry vision is to be married with the "orb" vision I had. I will put them down afresh for you in the next post. In other words , through relating giftings and ministries , as we saw in the past through Fort Lauderdale and the London group of ministries....something like a circular forcefield of God's Presence was created. A safeguard. A fulness of ministry. A balance of Word. Not an intellectual balance. We are talking in the Spirit. And the Power and anointing upon these circles of ministries will be unlike anything we have seen to date. Why different than before?Because, as Ian McCulloch shared with me once about the London brothers' gatherings, as anointed as they were on a platform together...they were still pretty left-brain locked when it came to arguing doctrines amongst themselves in leader's meetings. Having met some since...I can believe it!!! Brethren....I have faith for this to stop. Why? Because He has been doing something to stop this in leader's gatherings in Havant...so He can do it elsewhere too! Even in the USA!! Imagine that!! Anyway...back to the subject of the post....
This thing is huuuuge. If everything that went wrong....if everything that we see surrounding us...came out of a marriage of creative mankind marrying up with a Satan spirit....what on Earth will be the outcome of a creative mankind learning to live fulltime in the Son....Jesus. There is nothing the River of God won't touch. There is nothing left out of the verse "The knowledge of the glory of God will cover the Earth as the waters cover the sea!!!!"
I think it's bigger Rheinhardt Bonnke, than even filling stadiums with nigh on a million people! I think it's bigger Morris Cerullo, than collecting hundreds and thousands together and praying an Elijah anointing on them! I think it's bigger Rob Rufus, than building a big grace church in Hong Kong! I think it's bigger than collecting orphans into the biggest orphanages and most successful orphanages that this world has seen! I think it's bigger Bill Johnson than recreating what John G Lake had years ago....an anointing for healing and miracles!I think it's a bit bigger Iggy than creating perfect Emerging churches...or sitting at home and learning the Father's love on your own like Amy is Walking In the Spirit. I think it's bigger than building ever bigger networks of charismatic churches with only 2 out of 3 revelations: The Abraham and Isaac revelation...but no Jacob revelation.Listen to me Terry Virgo! Mark Driscoll!
It's bigger than just becoming good at improving education. We're talking about teaching and imparting all of Romans...not just the first 3 or 5 chapters. The result being that we lead people into turning their environment around....Romans 8 "the sons setting creation free." St Paul knew how to do this. The third level is the biggest single thing to hit the Earth since Genesis. What bigger than the Cross? No it cannot beat the cross in any other way than this.....Jesus came to raise a multitude who would live,sleep walk,pray...in the same anointing and the same quality of life that He had. He was the firstborn of many brethren. That's why it's huuuuuuge! He is pouring out revelation in these days to show us the tricks of how we do it....just like He did it!!! The charismatic thing was the practice run. It was Isaac and Jacob faithing things in. The third level is what happened after Jacob met God at Peniel! Then the history of corporate Israel really began!!!! This is when the corporate Christ will really hit the planet! The rest has just been boxing the air in a gym!!!




