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Thursday, 19 March 2020
I am a Prophet
And I know I'm a prophet
Because unlike Graham Cooke , Rick Joyner and Peter Stott,
I AM NOT A PROPHET.
I am like Jesus, prophesying something greater than the whole of the charismatic movement, than the whole of all the spontaneous gifts of prophecy by the Holy Spirit,
than the whole of the order of Prophet that is a grace ministry, one of the five listed in Ephesians 4.
What I am prophesying is the mass take up of Galatians 2.20 which means by the time we have stuffed ourselves full by eating of Jesus Christ continually, we too get to speak like He did.
Everywhere He went He was saying outrageous statements like One greater than Jonah is here. Or before Abraham was I am.
Or one greater than the Temple is here.
One hilarious day on Facebook about 8 years ago I had two conversations that reminded me of Watchman Nee talking about the Song of Solomon phrase:
"Like a Shulammite Dance between Two armies ".
We are completely outside the binary order left and right. We march straight ahead.
On that very day I had somebody arguing with me that as the "perfect" has now come all gifts of the Spirit and the baptism in the Spirit have now been removed. We have the Bible. Except the Bible says we must set our minds on the Spirit and says nothing at all about remaining in the narrow confines of our leftbrains as evangelicals preach.
You know the cessationist gospel....either because you are one....or are still secular....or because you have been on the rough end of it.
But simultaneous to that some South African prophet was inviting me to a prophetic conference.
I was in Graham Cooke's first ever prophetic training group in 1987 here in Fareham Baptist church rooms.UK.
Having been called to preach the thirdlevel message even before meeting people who led me to Norman Grubb's last book YES I AM and chapter 31 called "On, Now to the Third level", and that was back in 1989, why would I now have the slightest interest in a 2012 conference which only taught about one type of grace gift ministry when now I know Jesus Christ , the complete package in my being, as me.
When God gave me a first foretaste of the thirdlevel at full power velocity for two weeks when I was 20 in 1978, yes all sorts of gifts were flowing through me. I rarely have been used in them since, because I believe we were the generation who had to go up the hill of the Lord as mentioned in Psalm 24 and also The Psalms of Ascent, to rediscover how the full priesthood order of Melchizedek works.
And you remember Jesus spent 30 years training without doing one miracle.
it's a life we He consigned to Himself with the Father in eternity when He said
"It is written of me in the book , I have come to do they will O Lord, behold a body you have prepared for me."
....why would I now have the slightest interest in a 2012 conference which only taught about one type of grace gift ministry when now I know Jesus Christ , the complete package in my being, as me.
As Norman Grubb says, it's a whole step change different of intercession, because Roams 12.1 is saying , since all the rest of Romans teachings are true, .......
And I have a body.....
then I will offer it for the Master's complete usage.
Not just in a meeting. But for the rest of my life.
And ofcourse this could be a whole risk experiement because we only get one go at life. And if it doesnt work, we are kind of stuffed!!!!!!
But what it does do is render any previous idea of what a prophet is, or a ministry, or anything previously done in churches, as absolutely no relevance at all.
This is after all about bringing the KINGDOM OF GOD TO EARTH.
Who's even interested in the charismatic movement?
In prophetic conferences?
In churches as they are run now by tithe funded circus ringmasters ? There's nothing about a pastor, funded by an Old Testament tithe, running a church as a solo manager. That all comes from the Catholic church , with the name PRIEST changed conveniently to the more scriptural pastor.
When TV was first introduced people had the bright idea of bringing drama straight from the stage to TV. So if you watch the earliest TV dramas they are theatrical plays done in TV sets, usually with wobbly walls like the early Star Trek episodes or Dr Who.
Then portable cameras were invented and people could film outside, so they didn't need to make sets!!!
When Lutherans fished the gospel out of the Catholic pond they changed the priest name to Lutheran Pastor. They kept the confessional box and the same idea of somebody preaching information like a rabbi in a synagogue. That has more or less continued to this very day with Bill Johnson at Redding on his podium, and loads of Talking heads on Christian satellite TV like Joseph Prince and Joel Osteen.
it hasnt hit people yet that Galatians 2.20 is like "portable", it means you can eat Jesus Christ, and be totally portable and be filmed being just you.....but as Norman Grubb says, it's with that Romans 6 wink....because you know that you know that you know it isnt you. You know that you have died and your spiritual identity is actually a new creation Christ you fusion. You dont have to fake anything. YOU ARE IT.
It takes a while to carry this believing through, which is why proverbs 3 says we have to acknowledge God in everything for a while to retrain our senses from being this Genesis 3 "Alone me" into knowing , hey, I'm not an orphan. I am Christ in my form. The Bible says so.
Other churches dont like it that the Bible says this . Catholics and Anglicans dont even like it that it says you have to consciously repent first then be baptised in water. The Baptist denomination as a whole dont like it that it says we can be baptised in the Spirit.
Denominations all argue about everything.
John 7.17 -18 is really simple.
If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. 18 He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who is seeking the glory of the One who sent Him, He is true, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Right there is why we have schisms of 50,000 denominations as refers to houses of God, and that includes the original two houses who are still immature, Jews and Catholics.
This is why Hebrews 6 was written.
This is why Paul wrote to the Corinthians I cant write to you yet as being mature because you still say you are followers of individual preachers....Paul ,Peter, Apollo . Everyone gives themselves away.
Because unlike Graham Cooke , Rick Joyner and Peter Stott,
I AM NOT A PROPHET.
I am like Jesus, prophesying something greater than the whole of the charismatic movement, than the whole of all the spontaneous gifts of prophecy by the Holy Spirit,
than the whole of the order of Prophet that is a grace ministry, one of the five listed in Ephesians 4.
What I am prophesying is the mass take up of Galatians 2.20 which means by the time we have stuffed ourselves full by eating of Jesus Christ continually, we too get to speak like He did.
Everywhere He went He was saying outrageous statements like One greater than Jonah is here. Or before Abraham was I am.
Or one greater than the Temple is here.
One hilarious day on Facebook about 8 years ago I had two conversations that reminded me of Watchman Nee talking about the Song of Solomon phrase:
"Like a Shulammite Dance between Two armies ".
We are completely outside the binary order left and right. We march straight ahead.
On that very day I had somebody arguing with me that as the "perfect" has now come all gifts of the Spirit and the baptism in the Spirit have now been removed. We have the Bible. Except the Bible says we must set our minds on the Spirit and says nothing at all about remaining in the narrow confines of our leftbrains as evangelicals preach.
You know the cessationist gospel....either because you are one....or are still secular....or because you have been on the rough end of it.
But simultaneous to that some South African prophet was inviting me to a prophetic conference.
I was in Graham Cooke's first ever prophetic training group in 1987 here in Fareham Baptist church rooms.UK.
Having been called to preach the thirdlevel message even before meeting people who led me to Norman Grubb's last book YES I AM and chapter 31 called "On, Now to the Third level", and that was back in 1989, why would I now have the slightest interest in a 2012 conference which only taught about one type of grace gift ministry when now I know Jesus Christ , the complete package in my being, as me.
When God gave me a first foretaste of the thirdlevel at full power velocity for two weeks when I was 20 in 1978, yes all sorts of gifts were flowing through me. I rarely have been used in them since, because I believe we were the generation who had to go up the hill of the Lord as mentioned in Psalm 24 and also The Psalms of Ascent, to rediscover how the full priesthood order of Melchizedek works.
And you remember Jesus spent 30 years training without doing one miracle.
it's a life we He consigned to Himself with the Father in eternity when He said
"It is written of me in the book , I have come to do they will O Lord, behold a body you have prepared for me."
....why would I now have the slightest interest in a 2012 conference which only taught about one type of grace gift ministry when now I know Jesus Christ , the complete package in my being, as me.
As Norman Grubb says, it's a whole step change different of intercession, because Roams 12.1 is saying , since all the rest of Romans teachings are true, .......
And I have a body.....
then I will offer it for the Master's complete usage.
Not just in a meeting. But for the rest of my life.
And ofcourse this could be a whole risk experiement because we only get one go at life. And if it doesnt work, we are kind of stuffed!!!!!!
But what it does do is render any previous idea of what a prophet is, or a ministry, or anything previously done in churches, as absolutely no relevance at all.
This is after all about bringing the KINGDOM OF GOD TO EARTH.
Who's even interested in the charismatic movement?
In prophetic conferences?
In churches as they are run now by tithe funded circus ringmasters ? There's nothing about a pastor, funded by an Old Testament tithe, running a church as a solo manager. That all comes from the Catholic church , with the name PRIEST changed conveniently to the more scriptural pastor.
When TV was first introduced people had the bright idea of bringing drama straight from the stage to TV. So if you watch the earliest TV dramas they are theatrical plays done in TV sets, usually with wobbly walls like the early Star Trek episodes or Dr Who.
Then portable cameras were invented and people could film outside, so they didn't need to make sets!!!
When Lutherans fished the gospel out of the Catholic pond they changed the priest name to Lutheran Pastor. They kept the confessional box and the same idea of somebody preaching information like a rabbi in a synagogue. That has more or less continued to this very day with Bill Johnson at Redding on his podium, and loads of Talking heads on Christian satellite TV like Joseph Prince and Joel Osteen.
it hasnt hit people yet that Galatians 2.20 is like "portable", it means you can eat Jesus Christ, and be totally portable and be filmed being just you.....but as Norman Grubb says, it's with that Romans 6 wink....because you know that you know that you know it isnt you. You know that you have died and your spiritual identity is actually a new creation Christ you fusion. You dont have to fake anything. YOU ARE IT.
It takes a while to carry this believing through, which is why proverbs 3 says we have to acknowledge God in everything for a while to retrain our senses from being this Genesis 3 "Alone me" into knowing , hey, I'm not an orphan. I am Christ in my form. The Bible says so.
Other churches dont like it that the Bible says this . Catholics and Anglicans dont even like it that it says you have to consciously repent first then be baptised in water. The Baptist denomination as a whole dont like it that it says we can be baptised in the Spirit.
Denominations all argue about everything.
John 7.17 -18 is really simple.
If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. 18 He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who is seeking the glory of the One who sent Him, He is true, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Right there is why we have schisms of 50,000 denominations as refers to houses of God, and that includes the original two houses who are still immature, Jews and Catholics.
This is why Hebrews 6 was written.
This is why Paul wrote to the Corinthians I cant write to you yet as being mature because you still say you are followers of individual preachers....Paul ,Peter, Apollo . Everyone gives themselves away.
Sunday, 17 November 2019
The Quartile
Below is one of Franz Kafka's tales .
they are exactly midway between a Jesus parable and the detail of a short story or novel. In linear terms they are midway between a Jesus type brevity of the line drawings in the The Good New Bible 1960s and the caricatures in Punch magazine which were often mini paintings.
Jesus always said the Kingdom is like....
He didnt say in a parable the Kingdom is.
Don't take the story below and think
Haha!!! The Emperor IS Jesus who died, because this Emperor never resurrected, which would have had to be the case if the "Message" was the gospel message.
We have just been in the Hapsburg Palaces. That is Kafka's context of Emperor and enormous palatial rooms with huge staircases where elite throngs of nobles and their partners can fill halls. Of cities where the castle is in the centre of cities surrounded by the ordure and trappings of normal life outside the palace. It is the period of revolutionary throngs cramming out cities with their gatherings and protests during the last European decades.
So NOTHING is exactly anything in Kafka. And nothing in Jesus parables is exactly anything either.
One hundred years after Kafka, what was Kafka actually doing? Don't know. But this is somewhere in the mix:
There are four personalities that write the gospel.
If Matthew is all out Kingdom, legal rights,geneologies, about the announcement of Kingdom and WILL in the sense of administrative will
If Mark is all about action, and written by a serving pragmatic sort who likes to get things done, a people person and WILL in the sense of BULLOCK like determination to see something through
If Luke is about sweating out the details, and planning, and the mind, and what actually happened in the nerdy sort of attention to detail thing like a train spotter
Then John is about recording everything from an internal topographical viewpoint. We enter the Kingdom by being born again. We have to learn and experience the "ways of the Water of God" this new way of living and flowing in the Spirit, of going where the Spirit leads, like John 7. But also NAILING the bottom line of the gospel in John 6....it's not about an outside God answering daily needs, nor a healing crusade.
It's about EATING Christ as opposed to living in Genesis 3 delusion.
IF largely the three other writers are writing in the external realms of "Some say it thundered". John is writing in the realm that says God spoke from heaven and said " Behold my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.".
Now if the whole population are 3/4 outer people , and they were designed that way so we could live in an outer world, then it seems to indicate, like Kafka, like poets, like caricaturists, like artists and musicians, like futurologists who advise kings and institutions like Patrick Dixon then there is a quarter of us who deal with the "Arriving on Platform 3/4" but not yet here department. Or in terms of bad things.....this is actually appearing from within right now inside mankind but it hasnt fully manifested and taken over yet.....
Bonhoeffer and Hitler
Or the prophet type rabbit in Watership Down.
The Hunger Artist by Franz Kafka is another such tale about "the artist in society" as bigwhigs at universities like to say.
It's the struggle to communicate what is actually on its way as a spontaneous move to an Empire run in heirarchy.
In this tale the Emperor is giving the message from the top, but it clearly isnt the sort of message that he would normally pass down a heirarchy, or why invite such a man from nowhere to be the envoy?
But this is the essential problem that all societies have lived with since Genesis 3 when the first heirarchy order virus seized the planet. All information comes through heirarchy, so who exactly are these nobody upstarts, this quarter of society without proper linear accreditation to give very critical information that will change our manner of life?
And that continual misunderstanding of why God even created this quartile continually impedes their journey.
HERE IS THIS MORNING'S THOUGHT.
Supposing that very impedance in the will of God is part of the process that all of us make......the messenger in the sheer struggle, similar to a wife in labour then giving birth,....and the VISUAL of a struggling Hunger Kuenstler or Hunger Artist to the rest of the public, that is actually part of the process of a whole community learning to turn inward, away from heirarchy living to inward based living which is Galatians 2.20 and the actual arrival of the Kingdom of God like a cloud the size of a man's hand.
Perhaps the arrival of the Kingdom of God is a man's hand doing the simplest of things like giving, and not letting the other hand even know, but out of consciousness and not of a sick orphan Genesis 3 appeasement.
Just a thought.
This is Mark Harman's 2011 translation
from his blogpost on New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/07/01/message-emperor-new-translation/
A Message from the Emperor
The emperor—it is said—sent to you, the one apart, the wretched subject, the tiny shadow that fled far, far from the imperial sun, precisely to you he sent a message from his deathbed. He bade the messenger kneel by his bed, and whispered the message in his ear. So greatly did he cherish it that he had him repeat it into his ear. With a nod of his head he confirmed the accuracy of the messenger’s words. And before the entire spectatorship of his death—all obstructing walls have been torn down and the great figures of the empire stand in a ring upon the broad, soaring exterior stairways—before all these he dispatched the messenger. The messenger set out at once; a strong, an indefatigable man; thrusting forward now this arm, now the other, he cleared a path though the crowd; every time he meets resistance he points to his breast, which bears the sign of the sun; and he moves forward easily, like no other. But the crowds are so vast; their dwellings know no bounds. If open country stretched before him, how he would fly, and indeed you might soon hear the magnificent knocking of his fists on your door. But instead, how uselessly he toils; he is still forcing his way through the chambers of the innermost palace; never will he overcome them; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to fight his way down the steps; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to cross the courtyard and, after the courtyard, the second enclosing outer palace, and again stairways and courtyards, and again a palace, and so on through thousands of years; and if he were to burst out at last through the outermost gate—but it can never, never happen—before him still lies the royal capital, the middle of the world, piled high in its sediment. Nobody reaches through here, least of all with a message from one who is dead. You, however, sit at your window and dream of the message when evening comes.
they are exactly midway between a Jesus parable and the detail of a short story or novel. In linear terms they are midway between a Jesus type brevity of the line drawings in the The Good New Bible 1960s and the caricatures in Punch magazine which were often mini paintings.
Jesus always said the Kingdom is like....
He didnt say in a parable the Kingdom is.
Don't take the story below and think
Haha!!! The Emperor IS Jesus who died, because this Emperor never resurrected, which would have had to be the case if the "Message" was the gospel message.
We have just been in the Hapsburg Palaces. That is Kafka's context of Emperor and enormous palatial rooms with huge staircases where elite throngs of nobles and their partners can fill halls. Of cities where the castle is in the centre of cities surrounded by the ordure and trappings of normal life outside the palace. It is the period of revolutionary throngs cramming out cities with their gatherings and protests during the last European decades.
So NOTHING is exactly anything in Kafka. And nothing in Jesus parables is exactly anything either.
One hundred years after Kafka, what was Kafka actually doing? Don't know. But this is somewhere in the mix:
There are four personalities that write the gospel.
If Matthew is all out Kingdom, legal rights,geneologies, about the announcement of Kingdom and WILL in the sense of administrative will
If Mark is all about action, and written by a serving pragmatic sort who likes to get things done, a people person and WILL in the sense of BULLOCK like determination to see something through
If Luke is about sweating out the details, and planning, and the mind, and what actually happened in the nerdy sort of attention to detail thing like a train spotter
Then John is about recording everything from an internal topographical viewpoint. We enter the Kingdom by being born again. We have to learn and experience the "ways of the Water of God" this new way of living and flowing in the Spirit, of going where the Spirit leads, like John 7. But also NAILING the bottom line of the gospel in John 6....it's not about an outside God answering daily needs, nor a healing crusade.
It's about EATING Christ as opposed to living in Genesis 3 delusion.
IF largely the three other writers are writing in the external realms of "Some say it thundered". John is writing in the realm that says God spoke from heaven and said " Behold my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.".
Now if the whole population are 3/4 outer people , and they were designed that way so we could live in an outer world, then it seems to indicate, like Kafka, like poets, like caricaturists, like artists and musicians, like futurologists who advise kings and institutions like Patrick Dixon then there is a quarter of us who deal with the "Arriving on Platform 3/4" but not yet here department. Or in terms of bad things.....this is actually appearing from within right now inside mankind but it hasnt fully manifested and taken over yet.....
Bonhoeffer and Hitler
Or the prophet type rabbit in Watership Down.
The Hunger Artist by Franz Kafka is another such tale about "the artist in society" as bigwhigs at universities like to say.
It's the struggle to communicate what is actually on its way as a spontaneous move to an Empire run in heirarchy.
In this tale the Emperor is giving the message from the top, but it clearly isnt the sort of message that he would normally pass down a heirarchy, or why invite such a man from nowhere to be the envoy?
But this is the essential problem that all societies have lived with since Genesis 3 when the first heirarchy order virus seized the planet. All information comes through heirarchy, so who exactly are these nobody upstarts, this quarter of society without proper linear accreditation to give very critical information that will change our manner of life?
And that continual misunderstanding of why God even created this quartile continually impedes their journey.
HERE IS THIS MORNING'S THOUGHT.
Supposing that very impedance in the will of God is part of the process that all of us make......the messenger in the sheer struggle, similar to a wife in labour then giving birth,....and the VISUAL of a struggling Hunger Kuenstler or Hunger Artist to the rest of the public, that is actually part of the process of a whole community learning to turn inward, away from heirarchy living to inward based living which is Galatians 2.20 and the actual arrival of the Kingdom of God like a cloud the size of a man's hand.
Perhaps the arrival of the Kingdom of God is a man's hand doing the simplest of things like giving, and not letting the other hand even know, but out of consciousness and not of a sick orphan Genesis 3 appeasement.
Just a thought.
This is Mark Harman's 2011 translation
from his blogpost on New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/07/01/message-emperor-new-translation/
A Message from the Emperor
The emperor—it is said—sent to you, the one apart, the wretched subject, the tiny shadow that fled far, far from the imperial sun, precisely to you he sent a message from his deathbed. He bade the messenger kneel by his bed, and whispered the message in his ear. So greatly did he cherish it that he had him repeat it into his ear. With a nod of his head he confirmed the accuracy of the messenger’s words. And before the entire spectatorship of his death—all obstructing walls have been torn down and the great figures of the empire stand in a ring upon the broad, soaring exterior stairways—before all these he dispatched the messenger. The messenger set out at once; a strong, an indefatigable man; thrusting forward now this arm, now the other, he cleared a path though the crowd; every time he meets resistance he points to his breast, which bears the sign of the sun; and he moves forward easily, like no other. But the crowds are so vast; their dwellings know no bounds. If open country stretched before him, how he would fly, and indeed you might soon hear the magnificent knocking of his fists on your door. But instead, how uselessly he toils; he is still forcing his way through the chambers of the innermost palace; never will he overcome them; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to fight his way down the steps; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to cross the courtyard and, after the courtyard, the second enclosing outer palace, and again stairways and courtyards, and again a palace, and so on through thousands of years; and if he were to burst out at last through the outermost gate—but it can never, never happen—before him still lies the royal capital, the middle of the world, piled high in its sediment. Nobody reaches through here, least of all with a message from one who is dead. You, however, sit at your window and dream of the message when evening comes.
Sunday, 29 April 2018
The Millennium is about Genesis 3
The whole of the 70s and 80s was Word of Faith.
People preaching Deuteronomy 28.
Nothing wrong with that, but it’s secondlevel.
The Millennium is about Genesis 3
Jesus said I came to lay the axe to the root.
He was finding the “ root” in Peter the night before His trial.
And He repaired the root in Peter on the seashore having the fish barbecue.
Three times He asked Peter do you love Me.
This is Spirit repair for the three denials.
Interesting that the first commandment is such a repair tool huh?
Evangelicals hate prosperity preaching.
I just hate Deuteronomy 28 preaching that denies the root of our problem, which for Jew Gentile and Christian and any other faith, remains Genesis 3.
Judgment begins with the House of God.
So look out world.
In reality this means Gods foundation for building a world which He describes as
Surely as truly as I live all the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of my glory
The foundation for this is
Judgment
But that in the Spirit is described as
Yet once more will I shake the heavens and the earth as of things that can be shaken.
Understand this.... His Life in us as us can’t be shaken.
So while the rest of Facebook regularly fights about the existence of hell,
I preoccupy myself with the fact that
In Christ is no hell.
Christ in us as us cannot be shaken.
People preaching Deuteronomy 28.
Nothing wrong with that, but it’s secondlevel.
The Millennium is about Genesis 3
Jesus said I came to lay the axe to the root.
He was finding the “ root” in Peter the night before His trial.
And He repaired the root in Peter on the seashore having the fish barbecue.
Three times He asked Peter do you love Me.
This is Spirit repair for the three denials.
Interesting that the first commandment is such a repair tool huh?
Evangelicals hate prosperity preaching.
I just hate Deuteronomy 28 preaching that denies the root of our problem, which for Jew Gentile and Christian and any other faith, remains Genesis 3.
Judgment begins with the House of God.
So look out world.
In reality this means Gods foundation for building a world which He describes as
Surely as truly as I live all the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of my glory
The foundation for this is
Judgment
But that in the Spirit is described as
Yet once more will I shake the heavens and the earth as of things that can be shaken.
Understand this.... His Life in us as us can’t be shaken.
So while the rest of Facebook regularly fights about the existence of hell,
I preoccupy myself with the fact that
In Christ is no hell.
Christ in us as us cannot be shaken.
Tuesday, 27 June 2017
Bait and Switch 3: God's Switch
The great PUN of History
is Bait and Switch
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| His Name is as ointment poured forth |
then all that he offered us of freedom came out of his own self for self drive to make gain at our expense
The earth had been given to the sons of men ONLY, not to angels.
He wanted to steal that birthright from us, He is a thief.
To do so he lied. He is a liar. He lied about God, He lied about us being able to live independently and be as God, which is his own lie he believes about himself. See Isaiah 14.
And he lied about death. He is a murderer. Surely you will not die, By infecting our spirits we were immediately on a death course. Death spiritually, death in our souls, and the inevitable after effect , death in the body.
The devil promised several things. All were lies. Through our submission to him, he stole our rulership over the earth.....or tells us continually he did, and he infected us with death. His own death.
The wrath spirit that is within his person infected us.
God likewise doesn't tell us straight away about all aspects of His switch.
But His switch comes out of His continuous"Love for others " drive. Unconditional agape.
“Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard,
And which have not entered the heart of man,
All that God has prepared for those who love Him.”1 Corinthians 2:9
One of the reasons God gets us talking in other languages that we don't understand is that our minds would just not be able to take the nature of the information. So great are His promises.
John1 But as many as received Him,
to them He gave the right to become children of God,
even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood
nor of the will of the flesh
nor of the will of man,
but of God.
Right there you could end this post describing God's surprise switch.
To receive Christ, who is from the I AM, the eternal Now
we are receiving a man, but recognising He comes from God.
Now we could, like the disciples, be receiving a man in front of us, an ex-carpenter....but actually that doesn't help too much. Because outwardly He looks normal or like us. Only in the Spirit would we know He is come direct of God. And that realm is outside of time anyway.
So actually receiving Him through preaching all this time later doesn't actually make any difference,
we are still taking the testimony of other people who have seen into the Spirit, and we are believing their Word, which also made the SWITCH from Darkness to Light in them
And now we receive this Word and also receive inward confirmation.....HEY, THESE THINGS ARE SO.....and we too become co-knowers, co-receivers of new birth.
When the Prodigal Son returned home and His Father saw him afar off, He rushed to greet him.
He embraced and kissed him. Before anything.
The sons response is contrition. He had been to the bottom. It was a bottomline response from" the end of the universe of his own choice".
The Father on the other hand calls for
THE BEST ROBE
A RING for his finger
Sandals for his feet
Covering
Authority
THE Divine ability to walk things out
Rev.12They overcame by
the Blood of the Lamb.....the first layer in Christ
The Word of their testimony....the young men of 1 John 2 expressing/confessing their authoity
and loving their lives not even unto the death ...the father level....walking things out in Divine enabling. Having our feet shod in the preparation of the gospel of peace.
Meditate on those scriptures and how they all interrelate.
The Switch: Our High Position
- But First How could this occur?
In an outward way to an outer court people before the Holy Spirit was given, you can see God scratching His head trying to work out how on earth do you convey the two aspects of Christ's work on the Cross, which was ONE ESSENTIAL WORK in the Spirit in an outward way.
The Two Goats is how He did it. And this is covered in more depth here.
and then spills out into a second post here
Our old man, old spiritual man, died. He had to die. As we enter the very Temple or tabernacle area in the outer courts, there is no discussion or prevarication, we look upon a brazen altar upon the death of a creature, looking in the Spirit at the Lamb of God who takes away the SIN of all the world. The sin spirit of all the world.
But that death this side of our reality does not show Jesus taking that sin into death, andwhat happened there. So God wheels out the second image to show what happens beyond the veil of flesh. The second goat is chased into the wilderness never to be seen again. The scape goat.
We are not left dead, but the Holy Spirit leaves our old man judged in Sheol, and raises our spirit in Jesus as His Body is raised and given life.
Romans 8 is a complete breakdown of how this works
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.
Our Victory in Christ
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33 Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 Just as it is written,
“For Your sake we are being put to death all day long;
We were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
- He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit
However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.
What is "walking in the flesh"? We all have flesh This phrase describes our former default before knowing Jesus. Our Romans 7 discovery that God leads us into is that my problem was sin , or the sin spirit manifesting in the the flesh or my body. It's not "Oh the devil made me do it." A kind of get out clause. No that isn't the point of Romans 7. It's getting us down a dark lone alleyway where there is no other thing or person to blame....just me....and I finally learn .....hey....being independent isn't independence.
There is no such position of being a self run soul. An alone- I . Just to live and move I have to be empowered by a deity spirit. Either God....or a "derived god"......Satan who positions himself falsely as a god....
but really He is NOT SEPARATE either, but has twisted God's empowering in on itself.....and he has become a self for others creature.....and the devil seeks to persuade man to join him in this apparent independence....but really he usurps us and then becomes our controller.
Being a god in our own right is a lie.
But that is not now our reality. Well it is if we choose it. If we set our minds on the flesh....as if there was an existence called self spiritual godhood....then sin abides in us still and reigns over our mortal bodies....
but if we set our minds on the Spirit and confess that we have died in Christ and it is nolonger us that live, but Christ ....then this Becomes our new default. This is what maturity in Chriat is.
Psalm 8
O Lord, our Lord,
How majestic is Your name in all the earth,
Who have displayed Your splendor above the heavens!
2 From the mouth of infants and nursing babes You have established ]strength
Because of Your adversaries,
To make the enemy and the revengeful cease.
3 When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers,
The moon and the stars, which You have ordained;
4 What is man that You take thought of him,
And the son of man that You care for him?
5 Yet You have made him a little lower than God,
And You crown him with glory and majesty!
6 You make him to rule over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet,
7 All sheep and oxen,
And also the beasts of the field,
8 The birds of the heavens and the fish of the sea,
Whatever passes through the paths of the seas.
9 O Lord, our Lord,
How majestic is Your name in all the earth!
Isaiah 53
Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
Isaiah 7.14
The SWITCH means God is NOW NEAR US....Emmanuel
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel.
Song of Solomon 2:3
Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest,
So is my beloved among the young men.
In his shade I took great delight and sat down,
And his fruit was sweet to my taste.
4 “He has brought me to his banquet hall,
And his banner over me is love.
5 “Sustain me with raisin cakes,
Refresh me with apples,
Because I am lovesick.
6 “Let his left hand be under my head
And his right hand embrace me.”
Colossians 1:9
9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.
The Incomparable Christ
13 For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. 19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
21 And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
Ephesians 1 then 2
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love 5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight 9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.
15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, 16 do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers; 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. 18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might 20 which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.
And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
And finally concerning the Holy Spirit who is given to REVEAL all the things that are now ours in this DIVINE SWITCH
1 Corinthians 2
And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, 4 and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.
6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; 8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory; 9 but just as it is written,
“Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard,
And which have not entered the heart of man,
All that God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.
14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. 16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

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Friday, 16 June 2017
Bait and Switch 1 - How we got into this mess
Wikipedia extract.....
In retail sales[edit]
First, customers are "baited" by merchants's advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods either are not available or are not as good as expected, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher-priced, items ("switching").
Function[edit]
The intention of the bait-and-switch is to encourage purchases of substituted goods, making consumers satisfied with the available stock offered, as an alternative to a disappointment or inconvenience of acquiring no goods (or bait) at all, and reckoning on a seemingly partial recovery of sunk costs expended trying to obtain the bait. It suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin.
Legality[edit]
In the United States, courts have held that the purveyor using a bait-and-switch operation may be subject to a lawsuit by customers for false advertising, and can be sued for trademark infringement by competing manufacturers, retailers, and others who profit from the sale of the product used as bait. However, no cause of action will exist if the purveyor is capable of actually selling the goods advertised, but aggressively pushes a competing product.
Likewise, advertising a sale while intending to stock a limited amount of, and thereby sell out, a loss-leading item advertised is legal in the United States. The purveyor can escape liability if they make clear in their advertisements that quantities of items for which a sale is offered are limited, or by offering a rain check on sold-out items........
Merrian Webster
Definition of bait and switch
1
: a sales tactic in which a customer is attracted by the advertisement of a low-priced item but is then encouraged to buy a higher-priced one
2
: the ploy of offering a person something desirable to gain favor (such as political support) then thwarting expectations with something less desirable
Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” 4 The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! 5 For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves [b]loin coverings.
8 They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the [c]cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 Then the Lord God called to the man, and said to him, “Where are you?” 10 He said, “I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself.” 11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 The Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall [d]bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
16 To the woman He said,
“I will greatly multiply
Your pain [e]in childbirth,
In pain you will bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And he will rule over you.”
17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;
Cursed is the ground because of you;
In [f]toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.
18 “Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
And you will eat the [g]plants of the field;
19 By the sweat of your face
You will eat bread,
Till you return to the ground,
Because from it you were taken;
For you are dust,
And to dust you shall return.”
20 Now the man called his wife’s name [h]Eve, because she was the mother of all the living. 21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.
The main sales pitch of the serpent is that.....
You are insufficient
You are being witheld ALL TREES of the Garden
and the SPECIFIC tree will lead to godhood.
The switch was made when first Eve then Adam took the bait.
The switch was, that however it "looked" or "appeared" both Adam and Eve were in the Spirit of freedom.....but chose a false realm of "independence".
They were independent anyway but in God.....
Just like we are independent when the Railways Board says don't drive over the Track when a train is coming.
The Railway Board stating WE CANNOT DO something doesn't change our liberty or independence.....IT Keeps us alive longer to be able to enjoy more of it.
Satan makes out that this ONE TREE.....the Tree of Testing.....The Tree demanding the obedience of NOT TOUCHING.....was the ONE THING that was to be desired and far from being insignificant would make Adam and Eve into independent gods.
Independence isn't a falsehood. Liberty isn't a falsehood.
That there exists a realm "outside of God" is a falsehood. He is in all and sustains all.
We know within our consciences when we are going the wrong way.
The ways of true Life are in Him. He is indeed the only REAL thing that is going on in the universe.
Suffering and sin are real....but to get involved in them we have to go "outside" of what is really happening from God spontaneity.....and hook up with"fake, manipulated " happenings...
Happenings that James says
But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin [p]is accomplished, it brings forth death.
We are "drawn" by the demonic....the (false) sensual, the "world system" pulling on our senses....and this is called
the lust of the world
the lust of the eyes
Eve was enticed (above in Genesis 3)on three levels
THE FOOD WAS GOOD.....desirous to the body
IT LOOKED GOOD.....desirous to the soul
IT COULD MAKE YOU WISE....desirous at a spirit level....but it is a false wisdom, a fading wisdom, it is a false spirit.
BUT IT WAS BAIT AND SWITCH....
WE EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF GOD FOR A LIE
WE EXCHANGED A HOOKUP WITH GOD HIMSELF IN A DIRECT UNSULLIED FORM
FOR A HOOKUP THAT WAS NOLONGER DIRECT AND PURE, BUT VIA SATAN'S OWN "SELF FOR SELF" MAKEUP. * Below is the Romans 1 description of the condition *
Word of explanation
All life gets its life source from God.
Satan does too, but won't acknowledge it. He has twisted God's power source from being one rooted and grounded in love
to rooted and grounded in the love of self, "self for self" living.
What was enticing was
self for self living was dressed up as something in the Tree of Good
We could help God out by not having to refer to Him all the time....
we would know what was good and what was evil and as independent beings be able to choose what was the correct path for ourselves....
but self for self....IS MORE ugly THAN JUST " INDEPENDENCE".....
and remember we had independence
we had freedom anyway
"where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom"
No, the bait and switch brought us death, brought us this spirit hookup that is rooted in selfishness like a blackhole, never satisfied.....
death was spiritual, death was felt in the soul as shame, and just sense of God's wrath, and death was actually something that 900 years later broke through at body level....Adam died.
In Bait and Switch 2 we will learn God's version.. Here is the Romans 1 description of the switch and below, on the same theme from Ephesians 2 and 1 Corinthians 12.1
*
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “But the righteous man shall live by faith.”
Unbelief and Its Consequences
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident ithin them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [o]crawling creatures.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
Ephesians 2
And you were dead ]in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
1 Corinthians 12:2 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.
In retail sales[edit]
First, customers are "baited" by merchants's advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods either are not available or are not as good as expected, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher-priced, items ("switching").
Function[edit]
The intention of the bait-and-switch is to encourage purchases of substituted goods, making consumers satisfied with the available stock offered, as an alternative to a disappointment or inconvenience of acquiring no goods (or bait) at all, and reckoning on a seemingly partial recovery of sunk costs expended trying to obtain the bait. It suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin.
Legality[edit]
In the United States, courts have held that the purveyor using a bait-and-switch operation may be subject to a lawsuit by customers for false advertising, and can be sued for trademark infringement by competing manufacturers, retailers, and others who profit from the sale of the product used as bait. However, no cause of action will exist if the purveyor is capable of actually selling the goods advertised, but aggressively pushes a competing product.
Likewise, advertising a sale while intending to stock a limited amount of, and thereby sell out, a loss-leading item advertised is legal in the United States. The purveyor can escape liability if they make clear in their advertisements that quantities of items for which a sale is offered are limited, or by offering a rain check on sold-out items........
Merrian Webster
Definition of bait and switch
1
: a sales tactic in which a customer is attracted by the advertisement of a low-priced item but is then encouraged to buy a higher-priced one
2
: the ploy of offering a person something desirable to gain favor (such as political support) then thwarting expectations with something less desirable
The great PUN of History
is Bait and Switch
8 They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the [c]cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 Then the Lord God called to the man, and said to him, “Where are you?” 10 He said, “I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself.” 11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 The Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall [d]bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
16 To the woman He said,
“I will greatly multiply
Your pain [e]in childbirth,
In pain you will bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And he will rule over you.”
17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;
Cursed is the ground because of you;
In [f]toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.
18 “Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
And you will eat the [g]plants of the field;
19 By the sweat of your face
You will eat bread,
Till you return to the ground,
Because from it you were taken;
For you are dust,
And to dust you shall return.”
20 Now the man called his wife’s name [h]Eve, because she was the mother of all the living. 21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.
The main sales pitch of the serpent is that.....
You are insufficient
You are being witheld ALL TREES of the Garden
and the SPECIFIC tree will lead to godhood.
The switch was made when first Eve then Adam took the bait.
The switch was, that however it "looked" or "appeared" both Adam and Eve were in the Spirit of freedom.....but chose a false realm of "independence".
They were independent anyway but in God.....
Just like we are independent when the Railways Board says don't drive over the Track when a train is coming.
The Railway Board stating WE CANNOT DO something doesn't change our liberty or independence.....IT Keeps us alive longer to be able to enjoy more of it.
Satan makes out that this ONE TREE.....the Tree of Testing.....The Tree demanding the obedience of NOT TOUCHING.....was the ONE THING that was to be desired and far from being insignificant would make Adam and Eve into independent gods.
Independence isn't a falsehood. Liberty isn't a falsehood.
That there exists a realm "outside of God" is a falsehood. He is in all and sustains all.
We know within our consciences when we are going the wrong way.
The ways of true Life are in Him. He is indeed the only REAL thing that is going on in the universe.
Suffering and sin are real....but to get involved in them we have to go "outside" of what is really happening from God spontaneity.....and hook up with"fake, manipulated " happenings...
Happenings that James says
But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin [p]is accomplished, it brings forth death.
We are "drawn" by the demonic....the (false) sensual, the "world system" pulling on our senses....and this is called
the lust of the world
the lust of the eyes
Eve was enticed (above in Genesis 3)on three levels
THE FOOD WAS GOOD.....desirous to the body
IT LOOKED GOOD.....desirous to the soul
IT COULD MAKE YOU WISE....desirous at a spirit level....but it is a false wisdom, a fading wisdom, it is a false spirit.
BUT IT WAS BAIT AND SWITCH....
WE EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF GOD FOR A LIE
WE EXCHANGED A HOOKUP WITH GOD HIMSELF IN A DIRECT UNSULLIED FORM
FOR A HOOKUP THAT WAS NOLONGER DIRECT AND PURE, BUT VIA SATAN'S OWN "SELF FOR SELF" MAKEUP. * Below is the Romans 1 description of the condition *
Word of explanation
All life gets its life source from God.
Satan does too, but won't acknowledge it. He has twisted God's power source from being one rooted and grounded in love
to rooted and grounded in the love of self, "self for self" living.
What was enticing was
self for self living was dressed up as something in the Tree of Good
We could help God out by not having to refer to Him all the time....
we would know what was good and what was evil and as independent beings be able to choose what was the correct path for ourselves....
but self for self....IS MORE ugly THAN JUST " INDEPENDENCE".....
and remember we had independence
we had freedom anyway
"where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom"
No, the bait and switch brought us death, brought us this spirit hookup that is rooted in selfishness like a blackhole, never satisfied.....
death was spiritual, death was felt in the soul as shame, and just sense of God's wrath, and death was actually something that 900 years later broke through at body level....Adam died.
In Bait and Switch 2 we will learn God's version.. Here is the Romans 1 description of the switch and below, on the same theme from Ephesians 2 and 1 Corinthians 12.1
*
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “But the righteous man shall live by faith.”
Unbelief and Its Consequences
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident ithin them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [o]crawling creatures.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Ephesians 2
And you were dead ]in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
1 Corinthians 12:2 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.
Wednesday, 8 February 2017
Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness. How far back are you going?
The Lamb of God can take away your sins. And has done so.
But you only read that with fuzzy scales over your eyes.
What you read, c'mon now admit it, is
Christ can forgive you of your sins and declare anything against you as nought.
And it's true He can. But we haven't gone far back enough.
The Word of faith Movement took us back to Deuteronomy 28.
If, they said, all the curses were nailed to a Tree.
If they said, Martin Luther rightly exposed afresh that we are saved by grace and not by our own works, by believing upon Christ's victory and not upon ourselves, and if the curses were nailed with Him to a Tree...
Then righteousness is mine by faith
blessings are mine by faith
prosperity is mine by faith
healing is mine by faith
But it still doesn't go back far enough.
My problems and your problems are actually not
disease, though nasty-
generational curses though they bind us into patterns of living-
a lack of Cadillacs...
not having a lovely big house....
not having a lovely model husband or wife or kids.....
we can have all these things
Christian -type culture homes like mine where I grew up can have many of these things....
But it doesn't go back far enough.
John Noe has just written a book, the Last reformation
Torben Sondergaard's ministry is called the Last Reformation Ministries
Both in different ways speak about the Kingdom, but they don't really nail it. They don't go back far enough.
The gospel isn't outward to begin with. It is spirit.
In Genesis 3 Adam and Eve exchanged spirit.
They exchanged spirit empowering.
BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THEM.
IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE NOW INDEPENDENT.
Unless we go right back, when we "ask Jesus into our life"
WE ASK HIM TO JOIN OUR INDEPENDENCE.
WE ARE QUITE SINCERE. WE ARE OFTEN DESPERATE.
Jesus DOES come in.
But we earnestly believe He comes into our independent existence to help us with it, so deep is our sense of being an "alone-I" in the universe......fighting through it all alone.
Jesus says unless a seed fall into the ground and dies, it abides alone.
Well we take that notion and place it right upon our "alone -I ness" and don't really get anywhere....
JESUS IS SAYING THE VERY OPPOSITE.
UNLESS YOU DIE TO THIS STUPID STUPID NOTION OF BEING AN ALONE -i , THEN YOU WILL REMAIN ALONE....
IT IS HOWEVER A LIE AND ALWAYS WAS....
IT IS THE DEVIL'S OWN STINKING NOTION THAT YOU CAN BE A SELFEMPOWERED BEING.....WHEN HE, ACTUALLY, LIKE ALL OF US....NEED GOD EVERY SECOND FOR OUR EXISTENCE.
THE NOTION OF INDEPENDENCE IS SATAN'S OWN CONDITION OF DELUSION, AND IT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST A WRONG SPIRIT...BEFORE IT DOES ANYTHING....BEFORE IT OPERATES....BEFORE ALL THAT IT IS A SPIRIT
IT IS THE SIN SPIRIT
IT IS WHAT PAUL MEANT BY I SEE ANOTHER LAW WITHIN MY MEMBERS.....SIN IN THE FLESH.
In a blinding flash in extremity in Romans 7, as we all do by the holy Spirit, we see as if by Xray the whole LIE upon which humanity has been impaled now for thousands of years, and in these last 200 years it has increased to become this society called "secular".
There is NO SUCH THING AS SECULAR. The whole thing stinks. it's a lie.
So we return to the first sentence.
The Lamb of God can take away your sins. And has done so.
The Lamb of God takes away the sin of the world.
Not just your particular outward manifestations and instances.
He removed the SIN SPIRIT......PERIOD.
Unless you really catch that
then you don't see Kingdom at all.
There has always been Kingdom.
GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN KING.
HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SOLE LIFE SOURCE..
AS WE OPERATE AGAIN OUT FROM HIM and what He is genuinely doing in His incarnation by us....
THEN WE HAVE KINGDOM
THEN WE HAVE THE FULL REVERSAL OF GENESIS 3
AND IT MUST MANIFEST...
and there will be the odd Cadillac
and there will be the pretty spouse and kids
and there will be the big houses and the blessings....
But that isn't the point....
the point is that now God is really KINGING through us again
because we are again empowered by His Life.
But you only read that with fuzzy scales over your eyes.
What you read, c'mon now admit it, is
Christ can forgive you of your sins and declare anything against you as nought.
And it's true He can. But we haven't gone far back enough.
The Word of faith Movement took us back to Deuteronomy 28.
If, they said, all the curses were nailed to a Tree.
If they said, Martin Luther rightly exposed afresh that we are saved by grace and not by our own works, by believing upon Christ's victory and not upon ourselves, and if the curses were nailed with Him to a Tree...
Then righteousness is mine by faith
blessings are mine by faith
prosperity is mine by faith
healing is mine by faith
But it still doesn't go back far enough.
My problems and your problems are actually not
disease, though nasty-
generational curses though they bind us into patterns of living-
a lack of Cadillacs...
not having a lovely big house....
not having a lovely model husband or wife or kids.....
we can have all these things
Christian -type culture homes like mine where I grew up can have many of these things....
But it doesn't go back far enough.
John Noe has just written a book, the Last reformation
Torben Sondergaard's ministry is called the Last Reformation Ministries
Both in different ways speak about the Kingdom, but they don't really nail it. They don't go back far enough.
The gospel isn't outward to begin with. It is spirit.
In Genesis 3 Adam and Eve exchanged spirit.
They exchanged spirit empowering.
BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THEM.
IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE NOW INDEPENDENT.
Unless we go right back, when we "ask Jesus into our life"
WE ASK HIM TO JOIN OUR INDEPENDENCE.
WE ARE QUITE SINCERE. WE ARE OFTEN DESPERATE.
Jesus DOES come in.
But we earnestly believe He comes into our independent existence to help us with it, so deep is our sense of being an "alone-I" in the universe......fighting through it all alone.
Jesus says unless a seed fall into the ground and dies, it abides alone.
Well we take that notion and place it right upon our "alone -I ness" and don't really get anywhere....
JESUS IS SAYING THE VERY OPPOSITE.
UNLESS YOU DIE TO THIS STUPID STUPID NOTION OF BEING AN ALONE -i , THEN YOU WILL REMAIN ALONE....
IT IS HOWEVER A LIE AND ALWAYS WAS....
IT IS THE DEVIL'S OWN STINKING NOTION THAT YOU CAN BE A SELFEMPOWERED BEING.....WHEN HE, ACTUALLY, LIKE ALL OF US....NEED GOD EVERY SECOND FOR OUR EXISTENCE.
THE NOTION OF INDEPENDENCE IS SATAN'S OWN CONDITION OF DELUSION, AND IT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST A WRONG SPIRIT...BEFORE IT DOES ANYTHING....BEFORE IT OPERATES....BEFORE ALL THAT IT IS A SPIRIT
IT IS THE SIN SPIRIT
IT IS WHAT PAUL MEANT BY I SEE ANOTHER LAW WITHIN MY MEMBERS.....SIN IN THE FLESH.
In a blinding flash in extremity in Romans 7, as we all do by the holy Spirit, we see as if by Xray the whole LIE upon which humanity has been impaled now for thousands of years, and in these last 200 years it has increased to become this society called "secular".
There is NO SUCH THING AS SECULAR. The whole thing stinks. it's a lie.
So we return to the first sentence.
The Lamb of God can take away your sins. And has done so.
The Lamb of God takes away the sin of the world.
Not just your particular outward manifestations and instances.
He removed the SIN SPIRIT......PERIOD.
Unless you really catch that
then you don't see Kingdom at all.
There has always been Kingdom.
GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN KING.
HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SOLE LIFE SOURCE..
AS WE OPERATE AGAIN OUT FROM HIM and what He is genuinely doing in His incarnation by us....
THEN WE HAVE KINGDOM
THEN WE HAVE THE FULL REVERSAL OF GENESIS 3
AND IT MUST MANIFEST...
and there will be the odd Cadillac
and there will be the pretty spouse and kids
and there will be the big houses and the blessings....
But that isn't the point....
the point is that now God is really KINGING through us again
because we are again empowered by His Life.
Thursday, 18 February 2016
Sun People nolonger Moon people

Chris Welch I don't mean this in some belligerent spirit , but rather as a thing to meditate on.
In fact the evangelical church and the charismatic churches are built on the glory of the moon, being a reflector of Christ.
But strictly, from John 3 onwards that isn't enough.
And by the time of Revelation 12 it is spelled out extremely strongly. This is where it says and the Woman is clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet.
Because these are things to meditate on , not things to hammer each other over the head with.....
why under the feet?
What else is promised to the woman to be under the feet?
Between you (serpent)and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall [d]bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
so there is some commonality between "moon life" and "serpent life"........that which we thought was such a glorious thing to reflect Jesus.....actually isn't quite close enough.
In John 6 Jesus says unless you eat my Body
unless you drink My blood
you shall not have life within you
God winked at former generations
Now the Holy Spirit teaches us the HOW of eating the Body and Blood.....
It's not , in this third level of revelation just enough to eat Mass once a day or Communion once a week or a month, but God shows us how to put off the Old....and LIVE OUT FROM the new seed he has birthed within us.
It has taken me decades to even begin to articulate what I have been doing.....but in the greenhouse of the kind of churches God will be raising....this will be speedily passed on.
Jesus who had lived this way for 30 years....without the hindrance of a faulty starting point, but had nevertheless stayed true against all odds of
Nazareth being a Red Light district on Two world Trade routes
and being called a bastard all His life.....
by 30 when He was actually baptised in the Spirit, he was able to pull 12 nobodies through by the scruff of the neck in only 3 and a half years......though at the end.....things didn't "look good".
Shall we say, unlike most theological teaching centres nobody passed out with flying colours!!!!!!
But in this crisis of brokenness they got to learn firsthand of Jesus life in them.....and they ceased to be moon people and became instead those RADIATING Jesus actual SUN LIFE.
Moon life has separation
Sun Life is ONE THING
It is not I who live but Christ who lives in me, the life i now live I live by the faith of the Son of God.
Thursday, 19 November 2015
Changing spirit operators
Christianity was so puzzling. I was a Methodist but what was the point of Christ dying on a Cross? I asked my friend who as another 12 year old explained that we needed rebirth, but he didn't explain why Christ had to die. I got sucked into atheism.
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Here's what I didn't know.
True Christianity is a spirit religion. When we hear en evangelist like Billy Graham in his heyday, we are hearing a ministry supernaturally given by God (one of 5 main ones) to lead people at spirit level to connect with the Lord who is Spirit.
Somewhere in the mix are intellectual concept changes, but faith is something of the heart.
Sometimes we are told to ask Jesus into our heart.
More happens that first day then we realise. Just because we understand hardly nothing doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The Israelites took 40 years understanding what happened to them the day they crossed the Red Sea...it didn't mean they had to go back and do it again.
To decide to follow Jesus as your Lord is to change spirit operators....but on day one you haven't got the discernment to know what is the devil masquerading as you.....so you just think you have turned your life over to Christ.
Ephesians Ch 2
And you]were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, [d]indulging the desires of the flesh and of the [e]mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
More proof 1 Corinthians 12.2
You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led. 3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking [a]by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
I know galatians 2.20 sounds off the wall....it is nolonger I who live but Christ.....
This is the actual reality of changing spirit operators.
Here's an important concept:
When the devil said in Genesis 3 we could run ourselves thankyou very much.....he was lying. In "doing our own thing" we cut off in that instant at spirit level from God's empowerment and enabling and unbeknown to us we switched to a different power company. One that had a termination date. Or death.
What we have been "sold" however is not that....the lie that every human believes is that they are not only selfpowered when they are not....but that it is all going on what I call "front of house" in our soul.According to how we think and feel.
Now these exist. But by locking us front of house the devil can empower and manoeuvre us from the rear into anything pretty much. He got Germans into Nazism. China and Russia into atheist Marxism, and Russia was pretty Christian at the time. He got the West to murder their unborn babies, and he is pushing to get his end of life care passed, or euthanasia. All logical reasoning, but none of it would get passed the door if we were still living in God;s Presence. We would know instantly that none of this has anything to do with the sanctity of life, and not taking a person's life.
ALL mature Spirit Life is, is knowing our new Resident , Christ is fused to our spirit full time and that we are living out from Him.
The Hebrews 4 .11-12 process is pretty exacting...but gradually we learn our Christ walk....that is Christ in us the hope of glory as us in our form, and we can differentiate this from our previous phony and cancerous "independent self delusion".....which was never authentic us anyway.
Jesus said when you pray....don't do all the religious external hoohah....go into your secret inner chambers inside yourself and meet with the Father there....and this is where you start to learn how He created you in your authenticity as a unique you.
You start acting from within yourself. You say no when pressure to go beyond what you sense is your genuine being made in Christ is being exerted by others. And when you sense to do something, you don't hold back out of fear what others say or think.....because you know in your innards it's for you to do.
If Richard Branson had taken his cues from how entrepreneurial Britain is he would be stacking shelves in Tesco instead of running all his Virgin businesses.
So taking up your Cross according to Hebrews 4.11-12 may mean NOT doing something, but may mean doing a whole load of others. All the religious baloney in churches is largely that.
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Here's what I didn't know.
True Christianity is a spirit religion. When we hear en evangelist like Billy Graham in his heyday, we are hearing a ministry supernaturally given by God (one of 5 main ones) to lead people at spirit level to connect with the Lord who is Spirit.
Somewhere in the mix are intellectual concept changes, but faith is something of the heart.
Sometimes we are told to ask Jesus into our heart.
More happens that first day then we realise. Just because we understand hardly nothing doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The Israelites took 40 years understanding what happened to them the day they crossed the Red Sea...it didn't mean they had to go back and do it again.
To decide to follow Jesus as your Lord is to change spirit operators....but on day one you haven't got the discernment to know what is the devil masquerading as you.....so you just think you have turned your life over to Christ.
Ephesians Ch 2
And you]were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, [d]indulging the desires of the flesh and of the [e]mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
More proof 1 Corinthians 12.2
You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led. 3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking [a]by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
I know galatians 2.20 sounds off the wall....it is nolonger I who live but Christ.....
This is the actual reality of changing spirit operators.
Here's an important concept:
When the devil said in Genesis 3 we could run ourselves thankyou very much.....he was lying. In "doing our own thing" we cut off in that instant at spirit level from God's empowerment and enabling and unbeknown to us we switched to a different power company. One that had a termination date. Or death.
What we have been "sold" however is not that....the lie that every human believes is that they are not only selfpowered when they are not....but that it is all going on what I call "front of house" in our soul.According to how we think and feel.
Now these exist. But by locking us front of house the devil can empower and manoeuvre us from the rear into anything pretty much. He got Germans into Nazism. China and Russia into atheist Marxism, and Russia was pretty Christian at the time. He got the West to murder their unborn babies, and he is pushing to get his end of life care passed, or euthanasia. All logical reasoning, but none of it would get passed the door if we were still living in God;s Presence. We would know instantly that none of this has anything to do with the sanctity of life, and not taking a person's life.
ALL mature Spirit Life is, is knowing our new Resident , Christ is fused to our spirit full time and that we are living out from Him.
The Hebrews 4 .11-12 process is pretty exacting...but gradually we learn our Christ walk....that is Christ in us the hope of glory as us in our form, and we can differentiate this from our previous phony and cancerous "independent self delusion".....which was never authentic us anyway.
Jesus said when you pray....don't do all the religious external hoohah....go into your secret inner chambers inside yourself and meet with the Father there....and this is where you start to learn how He created you in your authenticity as a unique you.
You start acting from within yourself. You say no when pressure to go beyond what you sense is your genuine being made in Christ is being exerted by others. And when you sense to do something, you don't hold back out of fear what others say or think.....because you know in your innards it's for you to do.
If Richard Branson had taken his cues from how entrepreneurial Britain is he would be stacking shelves in Tesco instead of running all his Virgin businesses.
So taking up your Cross according to Hebrews 4.11-12 may mean NOT doing something, but may mean doing a whole load of others. All the religious baloney in churches is largely that.
Tuesday, 11 August 2015
Presenting Every Man as Perfect in Christ
Two Facebook notes by Chris Welch

.Seminaries are Liars.
They teach "the religion of Christianity" in the same way the university philosophy courses teach the thinking of Confucius or Socrates.
They deny baptism in water....unless Baptist and they deny being filled.with the Spirit unless Pentecostal.
The first instruction which is repentance they do the same thing evangelicals.do and teach a change of opinion......in other words put a different left brain hat on. Many people in seminaries are genuine.....but deceived and have to contend with all this half believism. Repentance or metanoia not only means a change in what you think as a complete change in how you think. You have to learn a completely new way of thinking.....waiting on God.....meditating upon Him and listening to Him.
Seminaries are Liars because they give you a piece.of.paper.and.say you have sufficient knowledge to minister to an unsuspecting congregation. You are not fit to minister in any way. You don't know how to heal the sick,cast out demons,lead people to the Lord nor have any idea how to reproduce Christ in another being.....since.it is not even true of you. All you know is to teach Law out of a book and headknowledge just like a good synagogue rabbi.
Seminaries, out of all senior education are the most dangerous delusion on the earth. It's bad enough being a professor of biology and teaching we all.randomly evolved......but at least, most people won't immediately get hurt. But anybody coming out of.seminary is now going to inflict his or her religious Genesis 3 appeasement teaching on a whole.set of willing and open people thinking they are learning about Christ. Its like serving cyanide in with Coke to an unsuspecting thirsty people in a cafe.
Ephesians 6 as Third Level Commissionings
Let's take Ephesians 6 as a text to prove something.
3 basic options....dismiss it totally, secondly, to "think " you understand it, thirdly it has grabbed you and working you almost like you are its Avatar.
The Holy Spirit "leads us into all truth" means in grace terms...He frogmarches you into EXPERIENCING these truths, into having these truths switched on in you.
This is the grace work of the New Covenant. It is in itself a PROACTIVE force if you on your part are saying like Mary..."Be it unto me according to your Word."
How will He do it? It will be unique to you and the story of redemption He is writing in you, but it will mirror all the other saints in and out of the Bible.
What I am trying to show you is the difference between a theological course and the Holy Spirit Himself presenting every man as perfect in Christ, bringing us to the thirdlevel which is Ephesians 6.
Ephesians is a local Body book. Jerusalem was something abnormal....it was the firstfruit of CHURCH going to the altar. It was smashed up by the religious authorities. Not a building...the PEOPLE. The people were scattered.
Antioch was the first real church to produce thirdlevellers: Barnabas and Paul. Paul took this blueprint of local church with him, and Ephesians is the carbon copy that we have for posterity.
If you go to an evangelical church, not having the release of the Spirit, nor any kind of experience in corporate "stands" against the enemy, Ephesians 6 will be reduced to a description of one solitary individual, which it is ofcourse as well.
But Ephesians 4 is very clear, and actually gives the lie to evangelical teaching, and the dreadful Disney versions of Ephesians 6 told in Sunday Schools.
Ephesians 4 clearly states the context is ONE MANY MEMBERED NEW MAN.
Forgive me, I have no personal experience of the Apostolic Denomination. I am aware it spawned the 1950s Manifest Sons Movement. However, to the best of my knowledge, the first real corporate sense of this NEW MAN on any scale was in the 1970s UK Bible Weeks and the 1975 Kansas City national Men's Shepherds Conference. In Kansas you can to this day hear something in the Spirit akin to the roar of the Lion of Judah within the 5000 voices. (Go to my blog for Ern Baxter's message Thy Kingdom Come). Secondly in the 1976 UK conference in the Cowshed in Harrogate, it ended with something like an Ephesians 6 declaration against the Enemy. Bulbs suddenly fused in the auditorium and that night angelic sightings were both reported in local newspapers and singing from an empty auditorium by local residents. This is all PROTOTYPE stuff for what is coming. A TYPE. A PATTERN.
So this is the context then.
The restoration of all things means the restoration also of the Ephesians 6 blueprint.
The Armour is not so much what we wear, as what Christ IS IN US full time.
Notice the first two elements the Holy Spirit is frogmarching us into onFacebook
GIRDING YOUR INNARDS/ YOUR LOINS with the Galatians 2:20 truth of who we now are. Christ in us the Hope of Glory. Christ in us AS US in our Christ branch form.
Secondly our breastplate of Righteousness is Christ's own rightousness which does away with all our appeasement WORKS.
"Arbeit Macht Frei" wrote Hitler on Auschwitz. WORK DOES NOT SET US FREE...we are free already, with every last thing against us nailed to a TREE in Jesus.
This is the starting point of the thirdlevel....the commissioning level of the Spirit.
It's not some intellectual opinion....it is now being made consciousness to us by the Spirit of the Living God.
On the basis of that consciousness WE WALK. As He IS, so are we in the world.
This is the PREPARATION of the gospel of peace. In other words, how can we bring the PEACE message, if we are not living ,walking and manifesting that peace as a real time thing. "We" as independent selves cannot walk this stuff....WE HAVE TO HAVE COME through our Romans 7 to realise the TRUTH. That before it was never us as selfpowered souls...there isn't such a thing....in our "delusion of independence" it was SATAN-I.....now , too it not I either....as a self empowered soul.....it is Christ who lives within me. I am living in UNION. And this great discovery makes my life start to work and IS THE PREPARATION of the gospel of peace, as my FEET actually get to walk this thing out. Some of us have been doing this now, like Jesus, for decades. Unlike Him...we have still fallen. We need Him totally. The Shield of Faith, the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit are the active weapons but COME AFTER the previous context. They are the ones charismatics and evangelicals talk about but NEVER in their right context.
We are not play acting here. This all has to be real for us for we are coming into a time like no other.....of which God says....if the days were not shortened even if it were possible....the elect should not make it...
Thursday, 29 May 2014
Things only started going wrong when.....
Things only started to go wrong with me, and the "secondlevel" churches up a mountain side in North Wales,1987. (Secondlevel churches are churches which believe in God and the Holy Spirit out there somewhere, and that we can get anointing by waiting on God, setting aside an appropriate amount of hours, and going to church enough, ....in short, they are the equivalent to the Pool at Bethesda approach. Like Lourdes, they believe in "places", and "protocols", and "headship and submission" and strangely single apostle pyramids, but they haven't yet paid the price of Galatians 2:20 in their own lives) Psalm 120 decribes the needle we all feel when those who surround us are pushing us in directions we are not happy with. So up this mountain, I did the characteristic psalm 120 thing and yelled at God and blamed Him. Only I did it more religiously than that!! God replied..." What are the others to do with you...how about you? Do you want to follow Me?"
So weighing things up...I said yes I did.
From then on I followed the Holy Spirit doggedly. And the more I did, the more it cut across protocols. Like , for instance, Emsworth apparently had some law about not going to pray for somebody's healing if it was out side their control "and covering".
In being specific here, they are ofcourse nothing out of the ordinary. All this type of thing is listed in the gospels as Jesus followed the Spirit. He also listed His own lists of observations as well which caused a lot of amusement. Lainee Waterfield just had the same thing this morning in Southampton.
If we still walk in Genesis 3 THESE are the FLESH/FIGLEAF/RELIGIOUS symptoms that MUST bleed through. I bet if I followed Canon Andrew White around he'd have the same rubbish. And if he followed me around like my wife does...he'd still find this rubbish still clinging onto me. Basically its squiffy seeing, where we are not moving from CHRIST AS ME. Or as Jesus put it " not ONLY DOING what we see Dad doing." The problem with secondlevel churches is this stuff is now made into protocols. All sorts of laws, hidden and open that are just what Jesus calls human tradition. The Leaven of the Pharisees. They CUT right across the anointing. And they cut right across people living Jesus as them. In fact in Samuel's case and Jesus case the Father got them cutting directly across. Samuel turned up late deliberately for the agreement he had made with Saul. Jesus in John 7 said to his brothers...NOPE...I am NOT going up to the Feast....then DID.
He also, when He heard about Lazarus dying...HE DELIBERATELY STAYED LONGER where He was. WOW.
So are you starting to get it?
One of the functions of thirdlevellers is to OBEY GOD SO CLOSELY we start to expose secondlevellers to themselves. They then have a choice.
To call US NAMES....or to call themselves names!!!! LOL
So apparently one of the names I'm being called at the moment around Havant is "depressed". I'll give them depressed!!!. Once the third level breaks out properly in all the churches according tp the law of Hebrews 13.13 living....we'll find out whose depressed.!!!!!
Psalm 126 says...when the Lord restored the fortunes of Zion we were like those who dream, our mouths are filled with laughter and our tongues with shouts of joy."
I'll GIVE THEM SOME DEPRESSION ICE CREAM to put on their DEPRESSION PEACHES!!!!
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So weighing things up...I said yes I did.
From then on I followed the Holy Spirit doggedly. And the more I did, the more it cut across protocols. Like , for instance, Emsworth apparently had some law about not going to pray for somebody's healing if it was out side their control "and covering".
In being specific here, they are ofcourse nothing out of the ordinary. All this type of thing is listed in the gospels as Jesus followed the Spirit. He also listed His own lists of observations as well which caused a lot of amusement. Lainee Waterfield just had the same thing this morning in Southampton.
If we still walk in Genesis 3 THESE are the FLESH/FIGLEAF/RELIGIOUS symptoms that MUST bleed through. I bet if I followed Canon Andrew White around he'd have the same rubbish. And if he followed me around like my wife does...he'd still find this rubbish still clinging onto me. Basically its squiffy seeing, where we are not moving from CHRIST AS ME. Or as Jesus put it " not ONLY DOING what we see Dad doing." The problem with secondlevel churches is this stuff is now made into protocols. All sorts of laws, hidden and open that are just what Jesus calls human tradition. The Leaven of the Pharisees. They CUT right across the anointing. And they cut right across people living Jesus as them. In fact in Samuel's case and Jesus case the Father got them cutting directly across. Samuel turned up late deliberately for the agreement he had made with Saul. Jesus in John 7 said to his brothers...NOPE...I am NOT going up to the Feast....then DID.
He also, when He heard about Lazarus dying...HE DELIBERATELY STAYED LONGER where He was. WOW.
So are you starting to get it?
One of the functions of thirdlevellers is to OBEY GOD SO CLOSELY we start to expose secondlevellers to themselves. They then have a choice.
To call US NAMES....or to call themselves names!!!! LOL
So apparently one of the names I'm being called at the moment around Havant is "depressed". I'll give them depressed!!!. Once the third level breaks out properly in all the churches according tp the law of Hebrews 13.13 living....we'll find out whose depressed.!!!!!
Psalm 126 says...when the Lord restored the fortunes of Zion we were like those who dream, our mouths are filled with laughter and our tongues with shouts of joy."
I'll GIVE THEM SOME DEPRESSION ICE CREAM to put on their DEPRESSION PEACHES!!!!
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Wednesday, 6 November 2013
TEF1. Union with God FIRST by Daniel Yordy
The Index page to the original online series of Through Eyes of Fire by Daniel Yordy is here
Each of the original chapters contains 3 audio formats (only Youtube here) and a PDF format to download and print out.
The present compiler (Chris Welch) found one very practical answer through my mobile phone.
Mobile 3G phones such as the Huawei Ascend Y300 now retail for around £100 or less and are quite happy playing all these Youtubes by live streaming in wifi areas. Hearing these messages as spoken Word is very powerful and definitely to be recommended . Daniel's delivery is affected by his Asberger's condition, but all of us attest to God's additional grace being made perfect through weakness.

Full union with God comes first, and it comes now. Whatever else that is of God flows out of union first. EVERYTHING else comes second. Full union with God comes first, and it comes now by FAITH.
Faith means seeing God against all earthly seeing. If there were no earthly view, no earthly seeing, no earthly diagnosis opposing what faith sees, then there could be no faith. Faith must have all contradiction against it in order to be faith.
And faith alone pleases God.
The lie, the serpent’s offer, can be boiled down to a simple formula. Human achievement of some form comes first; then, after achieving some unknown measurement – life, union with God, entering in, comes second.
Human achievement is dressed in a number of different forms. Perfect obedience, ceasing from sin, subduing the flesh, casting off the old man, it matters not how this human achievement is called, it is always placed FIRST before we can see God or know life or enter into full union with God.
It is the lie. Here is one version of it.
— We must be willing to get rid of the life we’ve planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come. —
Here is the problem. There is certainly an element of truth in these words. But it is truth that will NEVER be known either by the speaker or by his hearers (unless they change their minds). And this is just one way of saying it.
Notice the assumptions.
#1. Life is not in us now, it is “waiting” for us.
#2. We still carry an “old” skin.
#3. We must accomplish a form of human achievement – get rid of what amounts to “our life.”
#4. God Himself in Person filling us full and flowing out of us, accomplishing Himself all that He speaks is simply absent.
Jesus said: Abide in Me and I in you. You will bear fruit ONLY as you abide in full union with Me.
Union comes first, life comes first, God comes first, seeing God comes first, knowing God comes first, entering into the Holiest comes first.
After full and continual union – then the partial truth hidden in the lie becomes known, the old vanishes as the nothing it always was, sin becomes irrelevant – God has forgotten all about it, the flesh belongs to God, and we suddenly know the obedience of Christ. It is the “new skin,” alone and now, that causes the old to vanish.
I teach obedience. I do not teach hearing some sort of voice and then being “sure to do” what that voice says. Being led by the Spirit is a joy to joy to joy way of living. But people who hear a “voice,” call that voice, “God above,” and then force themselves to do what that voice “says” in violation of their own heart. These people become, in my experience, something unwholesome, something I don’t want to be, something, I suspect, God does not want to be, though He bears with all.
Now, the problem is not being led by the Spirit, we are always led by the Spirit, God always leads us in triumph, the problem is – what is God?
The definition of God I hold in my heart will RULE my life. It is not God Himself, but how I define Him. There are two definitions of God. The popular definition is One above who tells us what to do and then we either do what He says or not. That is “God” as defined by Augustine, and repeated as the Nicene Creed. In complete contrast, there is the description of God as the One who comes up from beneath of us, carrying us in Himself, becoming us, limiting Himself to our weakness, so that He out from us might conform us into His image.
Two images of God. One, God above who directs. Two, God arising from beneath who conforms Himself to us FIRST so that He might transform us into His image by His own Person inside of us. The first definition of God came to us by Adam eating of the tree of knowledge. The second description of God comes to us by seeing out from the eyes of a Man laying down His life for His friends.
Being led by the Spirit comes only out of the second. The God who conforms Himself to us first never violates our own hearts or persons. Yes, He leads. But that leading never comes in the form of “Obey, do not disobey.” The God who is always arising within us always walks with us heart inside of heart.
God says that Christ lives IN MY heart. I will know Christ only as I find Him IN MY heart, that is, as I know my own heart. I will not know Him as an idea in my mind. A voice that says “do this or be cursed,” is not the voice of my heart, therefore it cannot be God. That “god” is just an idea people hold in their minds.
Never does God violate my heart. If it is God speaking to me, then He doesn’t mind at all if I say, “You know, God, I don’t think I want to do that right now.” He respects and honors me too much ever to treat me with such disrespect as to tell me, “Sorry, Bud, do what I say whether you like it or not or I will ‘withdraw’ from you, curse, curse, curse.”
And I am not one bit less entirely the Christ who fills my heart if I choose not to do something that the Holy Spirit is actually leading me in. That is NOT disobedience, that is walking together, heart in heart, in love.
I have tried, on a couple of occasions, (I was not actually serious) to tell my wife to “obey me,” because that’s what wives are “supposed to do.” In other words, “You will be in trouble with God, curse, curse, curse, if you do not.”
Yeah right. That went over like a lead balloon. But what if? What if she had drawn upon herself some weight of obligation that she “had better” obey me or “be in trouble with God”? What a horror! What a perversion! I would never treat my wife in that way because I respect the integrity of her person far too much.
And neither would God.
God created us as His equal in heart, because that is the ONLY way God can show Himself through us to His creation. God ALWAYS leads us in triumph. If any shadow of cursing (bad things will happen if you don’t obey) enters into our walk with God, that shadow has not come from God.
We know God FIRST as the Person of Christ who fills our hearts, and then, knowing Christ in our hearts, we know God as the Person who fills full all that we are with ALL the fullness that He is – THEN, knowing God thus, seeing God thus – by faith, that means AGAINST ALL outward judgment, then we find ourselves not “obeying” God, but existing only inside of the One who IS all obedience.
We never see ourselves or speak of ourselves as anything or anywhere else.
Everything that is acceptable to God must flow out of the Source, Christ, who lives in our own hearts.
I cannot violate my heart; I’ve never been able to do so. My inability to violate my heart is very likely what many called a “lack of submission.” At thirteen years old, standing on the outer edge of a covered bridge above the water, others are jumping in, but I do not. The cute girl says to me, “Scaredy cat, I double dare you to jump.” No matter. I am simply unable to violate my own heart.
And every time I have ever watched another Christian violate their heart in order to “submit” or to “obey God against their own will,” what I have watched them become is something I never want to be.
It is rape; God does not do rape.
However, I do teach obedience, but everyone picks a dozen or so things to obey. That’s all. As humans, that is exactly what we all do. So which things do you pick to obey? Almost every Christian picks a few things to obey that are peripheral and inconsequential.
I say pick the big ones. Pick the ones that count. There are HUGE commands that are so very important to God. And here’s the deal. Everyone I have ever known one who says, “Obey first, know God after,” all of them, do NOT obey the commands I have picked for myself.
I obey these big commands, and I teach others to obey these big commands. But very few do.
Command 1. “Abide in Me and I in You.” – I teach obedience to #1, full union with Christ, in everything I write.
Command 2. “Speak Christ.” Speak that sin and disobedience have no connection to you. Speak that Christ in all that He is alone is all that you are.
Command 3. “Ask all that God speaks and believe that you have NOW ALL that you ask.” This command is absolutely disregarded – Disobeyed – by everyone I have ever heard who says, “Obey first, know God second.”
Command 4. “Give thanks for all things.” (I do teach obedience to this command a fair bit.)
Commands 2-4 are how we embrace the invitation to abide in Christ.
Commands 5-6, “Love one another” and “Give” are real ONLY as they flow out of #1. If they do not flow out of the full knowledge of #1, they are pretentious and worthless as both Paul and James said.
Commands 7-9, “Watch out,” “Cleanse yourself,” and “Do not love the world” are simply words against the three elements of the lie, the fruit of the law, that is, human achievement, the lie of the serpent, that is, do this first, know God second, and the face of Eve, the one who sees only human performance, that is, only “the things that you do.” In themselves, these commands are nothing. They just tell us what to look out for that will trick us into not obeying #1.
And #10? “Be just like God”? If God is not present in full union with all that we are right now, that one ain’t never gonna’ happen.
Let’s go back to the statement. — We must be willing to get rid of the life we’ve planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come. —
Notice that this brother, carried utterly by Jesus whom he does not yet know, states clearly that he has not tasted of life, does not live in life, does not know life. Here is someone that admits freely and openly that he does not know what life is. Life is “ahead.” Life is “waiting for” him. Life “can come” some day.
If he doesn’t know life, how on earth can he know the way? Not having crossed over fully in all ways into life himself, how does he know what someone who actually lives in LIFE all and NOW has “done” to get there? Not only that, but, not living in life himself, not having arrived, how can this brother (carried utterly by life, though he knows it not) even know what life IS?
The moment anyone says, “Do this first, know God second,” it is evident by the admission of their own mouth that they do not and cannot know God and therefore that they do not and cannot know the way.
If there is anything that needs to be discarded, my “plans,” any outward elements of wrong doing, anything – the only way by which it is truly discarded is UNION with all that is God in all that is me as I find myself to be, stumbling and foolish, NOW and First.
Look at the first four commands I teach people to obey. Almost all Christian teachers of “obedience” consider these four commands to be not that important, and they feel free to disregard them. I have never met anyone before I came across the teachers of union with Christ who obeyed Romans 6:11. No other “obedience” will ever replace obeying Romans 6:11. Let’s obey Romans 6:11 right now. I teach no ideas, no “theoretical” gospel.
Let’s obey Romans 6:11 at the top of our lungs. SPEAK.
“God, I do not know sin – You have forgotten it utterly and absolutely. I do not know any shadow of separation from You; I do not know what “disobedience” is even to talk about it. I am right now truly and forever dead indeed to all that You call “sin.” And God, right now, in all that I am as I find myself to be, stumbling and foolish, I AM in all ways and at all times ALIVE unto God.”
There, isn’t obedience a good thing?
Those who see God now before they see with outward sight know glory. Those who wait for the outside to “look like God” before they will know Him, when they do finally see Him, God says, they will weep.
Anyone who requires the outward signs and performance of a “man of God” from me will, in the end, judge me false. I will not produce what they require. Yet I have stated this openly and clearly all along. I really have no idea what I am talking about. That is not a rhetorical statement. I send out what I write to those who know ONLY the God who fills them full as themselves.
I desire to know LIFE in all that He is here and now and personal in me. I write in order to KNOW the God who fills me full. And I know that He fills all that I am with all that He is because #1. He says so, and #2. I asked Him to, and now I know that I possess all I have asked.
You haven’t obeyed the third commandment of the gospel yet? Let’s obey it together right now.
“Father, You say, ‘that we might be filled with all the fullness of God.’ Father, I ask that you fill all that is me, spirit, soul, and body, in all that I find myself to be right now with all that You are in all fullness. Thank you, Father, for doing all that I ask. I know now that I am always filled with all of You in all ways at all times. I will NEVER know anything else.
“Father, You say that rivers of living water, the Holy Spirit of God, flow out of me in all directions at all times because I believe in Jesus. Father, I ask you to fulfill this word in all ways in my life right now. Thank you, Father, for doing all that I ask. I know now that You, Oh God, are always moving out from me as Rivers of Living Water in all that I am, in all that I do, in every moment of my life, now. I will NEVER know anything else.”
You see how good it is to obey God?
But the moment we drop back into any form of “Oh, but first I must…” we have turned our backs on the obedience of faith. If there is no outward seeing that opposes what faith declares, there is no faith. Faith is the evidence, the proof of things that are not presently seen. Those who see life second, will know in that moment that they are barred out because they did not enter by FAITH when the door of opportunity stood wide open and when they could not “see.”
Only the blind who regard Christ their life against all that they see or can’t see will ever enter the kingdom.
Everything God is doing and is about to do in this earth through us, His body, all of it comes out of our present and total union with God FIRST.
Adam did not face any temptation until he approached the Tree of Life. Then all temptation hit him hard; all temptation pressed against his way.
The last place we should be looking for truth is among those who are the closest to LIFE, yet by their own admission, have not entered in. The most dangerous liars on this planet, the ones who will trick us and keep us away from life ARE the deeper truth preachers who preach “life and the fruit of life.” They talk about LIFE, we are drawn to that. They talk about the fruit of LIFE, we are drawn to that. But here is what they say. “You want life? Yes, Life is good, life is God. I know how you will get to life. Let me instruct you. Do this first; when you have fulfilled this, after that, God will be very pleased with you, and He will grant you life.”
“Fruit comes first. The Source of fruit comes second.”
And this is EXACTLY what the serpent offered in the garden.
Here is what Jesus says, “The Source of fruit comes first, full and utter union with Me now in all that you are, including your flesh and your sin. Then, after that, all the fruit that is truly of Me (God in Person) will just flow out of you naturally.”
All who say “fruit before Source” are deceivers – and anointed and powerful Christian ones at that. God says “Source before fruit – All and Now.”
No union means no fruit that is acceptable to God no matter how “Christ-like” it appears to be.
Union with God first. But here IS the reality. Once we accept in our minds (God has given us a mind to know Him) that we are always and utterly inside of God NOW, everything looks entirely different, including God Himself. And when we try to speak of what we now see and know, all of Christianity seems to oppose us, especially those who are the very closest to life.
Because we are utterly inside of Jesus, we see out from His eyes alone, we see all things through eyes of fire.
In the early Spring of 2008 the Lord revealed to me that “I” am swallowed up in Christ. Over the next few weeks I found glorious confirmation of that reality in Fred Pruitt’s writings. From then on I have practiced a continual exercise. Over and over I say three things to myself. I say, “Christ is my life.” I say, “I have no other life.” and I say, “Christ is all there is in me.” I say those things in this context: “I will never know Him in His power until I know Him in (as) my weakness.” And I say those things especially against all opposition and all sight of my eyes. I say those things when I feel far away from God, when by the definitions of Christianity, I have “disobeyed” or done something that brought pain to others. I say those things when I look in the mirror at night feeling wretched and lost and miserable. I say those three things and I say those three things and I say those three things.
I did that for about six months. The opposition was horrible. Wailing cries of accusation assailed me. “You are blaspheming.” But I knew that God says those three things about me, and I will not speak anything else.
Here is what God says.
For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also appear with Him in glory. Colossians 3:1-2
Christ is my life.
Reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.Romans 6:11
I have no other life.
You have… put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him… Christ is all and in all. Colossians 3:9-11
Christ is all there is in me.
Now, before continuing forward, let’s bring in the two strongest verses in the New Testament that seem to speak against what I was doing.
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth… Colossians 3:5 — For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13
There are two means only by which anyone can accomplish this dictate: human effort or faith. Most Christian teachers argue for human effort. Human effort IS “Obey, do not disobey.” Paul argues for faith.
Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Galatians 3:2-3
From February 2008 until November 15, 2008, I spoke those three things until I began to be settled in their reality. Then, on November 15, 2008, I sent out my first Christ Our Life letter.
Everything you have read of me comes out of my daily practice of saying to myself, over and over, “Christ is my only life; I have no other life. Christ is all there is in me.”
Now, in all that I have written, I have written those things along with “We will NOT know Him in His power until we know Him in (as) our weakness” many times. Yet I have said them to myself far more. Anything of life found in what I write comes out of that daily practice, a daily practice that led from saying those things against opposition to truly believing them to knowing they are true to going forth in all things as Christ Himself with no shadow of any other reality.
Now, let’s look at Romans 6:11 and the problem with “Obey, do not disobey.” God commanded us to say, “I am dead indeed unto sin.” That means, “I cannot ever disobey God.” Every single person who teaches “obey, do not disobey,” is practicing “disobedience” to the second most important commandment in the Bible, “Speak Christ.” They are speaking in direct opposition to God’s command to say, “I cannot disobey God.” They imagine they are teaching the “obedience of Christ,” yet their very words are the practice of disobedience.
The wall, the barrier, is the Augustinian definition of God and man. When I say “Augustinian,” I am not saying something abnormal. All Christian thought of both God and man IS Augustinian. Let me give two phrases that are 100% Augustinian. “Christ is the second Person of the Godhead” and “I am not God.” The issue is not whether these things are true ideas or not. The issue is, does God say these things concerning Christ our only life? We cannot ever know God so long as we are saying ideas about God that God does not say. When we speak only what God says concerning Christ our only life, then we know and see God.
Here is what Christ says, “The Father is greater and mightier than I.” “I and the Father are One.” “I do always the will of the Father.”
And here is what God says about you. You, _____________ ______________ (put your name in the blank), are filled, that is, every particle of all that you are, you are filled with ALL of the FULNESS of ME!!!”
To talk about ourselves as if we “disobey” God is to say that God disobeys God. We cannot talk about ourselves for we are dead.
Watch “The Walking Dead.” (Don’t, it’s sickening.) Why is it that the walking dead cannot act human or connect with humans or be kind like humans? That is so easy. They are dead! Why is it that “I” cannot obey God? That’s easy; I am dead. There is no “me” in the equation. I cannot say that “I” am not God because there is no “me.” Neither can I say that “I am God,” for there is no “me.”
Now, God is Himself, but Christ is not. Christ is as me; Christ is many “me’s” as Paul said. I relate with God as Christ relating with God. Christ alone takes me to the Father; I can approach Him no other way.
If I am speaking or thinking or living in “Obey, do not disobey,” then I am not dead and I am not Christ’s. If I am not Christ’s than I get nowhere near the Father. I have no idea who and what He is or who and what I am.
I teach the obedience of Christ. I cannot disobey. If Christ, ascended above the heavens as the resurrected Christ can disobey God, then I can disobey God. If He cannot, then I cannot. For I am He in Daniel Yordy form.
I am Christ in the form of Daniel Yordy (put your own name in the blank and shout it to the heavens) sent forth from the Father into this world to prove the will of God made perfect in my human weakness. I always do the will of my Father.
Now, the question of “Obey what God says, do not disobey,” a statement requiring me to be a person separate from the Lord Jesus, alive in myself and not dead, came at me in such a way that I thought “Maybe I am teaching an incredible lie. Maybe I am actually teaching not to ‘obey’ God.” I sat in that thought for two days. For about 36 hours I stopped speaking, “Christ is my only life; Christ is all there is in me.” I did not think in that way at all.
There is a simple metaphor to describe those 36 hours. – Hell.
In the middle of the night, I awoke and said, “To hell with this.” I again spoke, “Christ is all there is in me. I have no other life except Christ Jesus Himself.”
Then I knew with all certainty, that I, Daniel Yordy, am Christ Jesus Himself in Daniel Yordy form, that I always do the will of my Father, the One who fills all the weakness of my human flesh with all of Himself. The 36 hours of not saying, “Christ is the only life I am,” was as much the perfect will of God as all that I am.
The GREATEST opponents to living inside of God and God inside of us are the Altar of Incense in the Holy Place preachers and teachers, the ones who are a step away from life, but who turn the tree of knowledge into an image of the tree of life. “Obey, do not disobey.”
That image is the image of death, though it appears to be “godly”; it is not Christ who is Life. Christ never tells Himself to “obey God, do not disobey God.” For three hours in Gethsemane only, the Lord Jesus wrestled with “Not My will, but Thine be done.” He wrestled with that for those three hours AS our atonement AS us before God. And we DID what He did inside of Him there, in the only way we could possibly ever do it. The very moment Jesus stood to His feet, you and I turned entirely into Joy.
We do not establish our own righteousness or walk our own atonement. To attempt to do so is both to fail utterly AND to reject Christ our only life. It is to live in an imagination that simply does not exist.
We have one task only right now. This task is so critical to the heart of God it can hardly be underlined and bolded enough. Our task is to see God in us now as we are Christ, that is, God revealed in our human weakness. Our task is to know God in us now as we are Christ, that is, God revealed in our present human weakness. To speak of living as “Christians” trying to make it into a God who is separate from us is to eliminate ourselves from knowing God now.
If I say anything about myself that is not something I can say about the Lord Jesus Christ ascended in glory AND revealed now AS my human weakness, then I am speaking a lie. “I obey,” and by implication, “I disobey,” is to speak not Christ. Christ obeys, end of story. There is no disobedience in Christ; there is no disobedience in me.
Yet I glory in all my infirmities: I rejoice in all my difficulties; I glory in tribulation; I count it all joy when I am hit with every wailing cry, “Daniel, you are blaspheming God.”
No, to see myself as other than Christ Himself as my weakness is blasphemy.
No “Christian” has ever been given to eat of the tree of life. Eating of life is radically different from Christianity. The fruit of the tree of life IS the forbidden fruit in all human thinking, Christian and non-Christian. Christians want a personal God far away from who they are themselves. New Agers want to be themselves an extension of an impersonal god. Both are absolutely hostile to the tree of life.
You will not find in most Christian teaching instruction on eating of the tree of life. They do not know it. (Except those who teach abiding in Christ in fullness.)
The moment we eat of the tree of life, we are in opposition to all. We are in something so radically different from all human experience, both Christian and non-Christian, something no one will tolerate.
The screams of “blasphemy” MUST come wailing against those who eat of the tree of life, of the grace that no one in the Bible experienced, those who are the salvation no New Testament writer knew personally themselves (as Peter said).
Jesus did not teach that Salvation as recorded by Matthew, Mark, and Luke. He did not do so because the Father had reserved the revelation of Jesus Christ entirely for Paul – and entirely after the Path of the Atonement. Jesus said, “Everything I have said about God up until this moment is figurative, now I will tell you plainly about the Father.” Then He stopped speaking. All creation then saw God for real for the first time as Jesus walked the Path of the Atonement. And the most incredible thing all creation saw about God for the first time IS that you and I are utterly and only inside of Him; He is our only life.
When we say, “He is my only life,” it means that we cannot talk about ourself as anything other than Christ Himself in all ways, sent forth into this earth, bearing all human suffering, laying down His life, proving all the will of God IN and AS all of our present human weakness and inability.
We dare not define ourselves by Christian definitions and imagine that we “know” who we are. It is a lie.
We ARE true humans, just like Jesus. We ARE God revealed.
One last thing. Christianity, that is, the tree of knowledge, posits only two possibilities. Either we are obeying God or we are disobeying God. Either we are keeping our human nature – that is, doing something other than the will of God – under control, or we are just letting the flesh run wild, having it’s day. So, when people hear, “Do not live in the darkness of ‘obey God, do not disobey,’” they immediately imagine that the only other possibility is just to do whatever and call the satisfying of our fleshy lusts “the will of God.”
They have no knowledge of something entirely different. They have not eaten of the tree of life. The only entrance into the eating of the tree of life, as I shared as best I can in “The Third Place of Knowing God,” is to allow Jesus HIMSELF to be, be, be, be, be, be, be our very flesh.
When we do that, we discover that “obey, do not disobey” sounds like it honors God, but in truth, it does not. We discover that it is, in fact, living in the tree of do GOOD and do not do evil.
God did not want mankind to know that tree ever. But Adam chose differently. And we have NEVER experienced or known the tree of life. Living in the tree of life is just something utterly, utterly different from what all humans AND all Christians have ever experienced.
The tree of life IS Christ Jesus coming into this world AS Daniel Yordy proving the will of God entirely through all of Daniel Yordy’s human weakness. This Daniel Yordy (put your own name in the blank), who is one of many forms of Christ, that is, God revealed, is filled with ALL of God the Father. AND the Holy Spirit is Daniel Yordy’s outsides. That Holy Spirit IS always flowing out from this Daniel Yordy at all times.
In other words, God is real, and He really is Salvation.
What do I find in this intimacy I know with the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ as my person AND with the Person of God filling full all the Person of Christ as me? First, I find that all that God says in the Bible is simply speaking of me as Christ revealed. I am the will of God. Second, I find the Lord Jesus Christ exalted above all exaltation as Salvation itself. He has grown so large that I cannot know anything else. I am utterly swallowed up in Him.
And I will never know or speak anything but Christ my only life.
Each of the original chapters contains 3 audio formats (only Youtube here) and a PDF format to download and print out.
The present compiler (Chris Welch) found one very practical answer through my mobile phone.
Mobile 3G phones such as the Huawei Ascend Y300 now retail for around £100 or less and are quite happy playing all these Youtubes by live streaming in wifi areas. Hearing these messages as spoken Word is very powerful and definitely to be recommended . Daniel's delivery is affected by his Asberger's condition, but all of us attest to God's additional grace being made perfect through weakness.

© Daniel Yordy 2013
Abide in Me and I in you. Jesus - the only command in the Bible that counts.Full union with God comes first, and it comes now. Whatever else that is of God flows out of union first. EVERYTHING else comes second. Full union with God comes first, and it comes now by FAITH.
Faith means seeing God against all earthly seeing. If there were no earthly view, no earthly seeing, no earthly diagnosis opposing what faith sees, then there could be no faith. Faith must have all contradiction against it in order to be faith.
And faith alone pleases God.
The lie, the serpent’s offer, can be boiled down to a simple formula. Human achievement of some form comes first; then, after achieving some unknown measurement – life, union with God, entering in, comes second.
Human achievement is dressed in a number of different forms. Perfect obedience, ceasing from sin, subduing the flesh, casting off the old man, it matters not how this human achievement is called, it is always placed FIRST before we can see God or know life or enter into full union with God.
It is the lie. Here is one version of it.
— We must be willing to get rid of the life we’ve planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come. —
Here is the problem. There is certainly an element of truth in these words. But it is truth that will NEVER be known either by the speaker or by his hearers (unless they change their minds). And this is just one way of saying it.
Notice the assumptions.
#1. Life is not in us now, it is “waiting” for us.
#2. We still carry an “old” skin.
#3. We must accomplish a form of human achievement – get rid of what amounts to “our life.”
#4. God Himself in Person filling us full and flowing out of us, accomplishing Himself all that He speaks is simply absent.
Jesus said: Abide in Me and I in you. You will bear fruit ONLY as you abide in full union with Me.
Full union with God comes first, and it comes now.
Union comes first, life comes first, God comes first, seeing God comes first, knowing God comes first, entering into the Holiest comes first.
After full and continual union – then the partial truth hidden in the lie becomes known, the old vanishes as the nothing it always was, sin becomes irrelevant – God has forgotten all about it, the flesh belongs to God, and we suddenly know the obedience of Christ. It is the “new skin,” alone and now, that causes the old to vanish.
I teach obedience. I do not teach hearing some sort of voice and then being “sure to do” what that voice says. Being led by the Spirit is a joy to joy to joy way of living. But people who hear a “voice,” call that voice, “God above,” and then force themselves to do what that voice “says” in violation of their own heart. These people become, in my experience, something unwholesome, something I don’t want to be, something, I suspect, God does not want to be, though He bears with all.
Now, the problem is not being led by the Spirit, we are always led by the Spirit, God always leads us in triumph, the problem is – what is God?
The definition of God I hold in my heart will RULE my life. It is not God Himself, but how I define Him. There are two definitions of God. The popular definition is One above who tells us what to do and then we either do what He says or not. That is “God” as defined by Augustine, and repeated as the Nicene Creed. In complete contrast, there is the description of God as the One who comes up from beneath of us, carrying us in Himself, becoming us, limiting Himself to our weakness, so that He out from us might conform us into His image.
Two images of God. One, God above who directs. Two, God arising from beneath who conforms Himself to us FIRST so that He might transform us into His image by His own Person inside of us. The first definition of God came to us by Adam eating of the tree of knowledge. The second description of God comes to us by seeing out from the eyes of a Man laying down His life for His friends.
Being led by the Spirit comes only out of the second. The God who conforms Himself to us first never violates our own hearts or persons. Yes, He leads. But that leading never comes in the form of “Obey, do not disobey.” The God who is always arising within us always walks with us heart inside of heart.
God says that Christ lives IN MY heart. I will know Christ only as I find Him IN MY heart, that is, as I know my own heart. I will not know Him as an idea in my mind. A voice that says “do this or be cursed,” is not the voice of my heart, therefore it cannot be God. That “god” is just an idea people hold in their minds.
The definition of God I hold in my heart will RULE my life.
Never does God violate my heart. If it is God speaking to me, then He doesn’t mind at all if I say, “You know, God, I don’t think I want to do that right now.” He respects and honors me too much ever to treat me with such disrespect as to tell me, “Sorry, Bud, do what I say whether you like it or not or I will ‘withdraw’ from you, curse, curse, curse.”
And I am not one bit less entirely the Christ who fills my heart if I choose not to do something that the Holy Spirit is actually leading me in. That is NOT disobedience, that is walking together, heart in heart, in love.
I have tried, on a couple of occasions, (I was not actually serious) to tell my wife to “obey me,” because that’s what wives are “supposed to do.” In other words, “You will be in trouble with God, curse, curse, curse, if you do not.”
Yeah right. That went over like a lead balloon. But what if? What if she had drawn upon herself some weight of obligation that she “had better” obey me or “be in trouble with God”? What a horror! What a perversion! I would never treat my wife in that way because I respect the integrity of her person far too much.
And neither would God.
God created us as His equal in heart, because that is the ONLY way God can show Himself through us to His creation. God ALWAYS leads us in triumph. If any shadow of cursing (bad things will happen if you don’t obey) enters into our walk with God, that shadow has not come from God.
We know God FIRST as the Person of Christ who fills our hearts, and then, knowing Christ in our hearts, we know God as the Person who fills full all that we are with ALL the fullness that He is – THEN, knowing God thus, seeing God thus – by faith, that means AGAINST ALL outward judgment, then we find ourselves not “obeying” God, but existing only inside of the One who IS all obedience.
We never see ourselves or speak of ourselves as anything or anywhere else.
Everything that is acceptable to God must flow out of the Source, Christ, who lives in our own hearts.
I cannot violate my heart; I’ve never been able to do so. My inability to violate my heart is very likely what many called a “lack of submission.” At thirteen years old, standing on the outer edge of a covered bridge above the water, others are jumping in, but I do not. The cute girl says to me, “Scaredy cat, I double dare you to jump.” No matter. I am simply unable to violate my own heart.
And every time I have ever watched another Christian violate their heart in order to “submit” or to “obey God against their own will,” what I have watched them become is something I never want to be.
It is rape; God does not do rape.
However, I do teach obedience, but everyone picks a dozen or so things to obey. That’s all. As humans, that is exactly what we all do. So which things do you pick to obey? Almost every Christian picks a few things to obey that are peripheral and inconsequential.
I say pick the big ones. Pick the ones that count. There are HUGE commands that are so very important to God. And here’s the deal. Everyone I have ever known one who says, “Obey first, know God after,” all of them, do NOT obey the commands I have picked for myself.
I obey these big commands, and I teach others to obey these big commands. But very few do.
Command 1. “Abide in Me and I in You.” – I teach obedience to #1, full union with Christ, in everything I write.
Command 2. “Speak Christ.” Speak that sin and disobedience have no connection to you. Speak that Christ in all that He is alone is all that you are.
Command 3. “Ask all that God speaks and believe that you have NOW ALL that you ask.” This command is absolutely disregarded – Disobeyed – by everyone I have ever heard who says, “Obey first, know God second.”
Command 4. “Give thanks for all things.” (I do teach obedience to this command a fair bit.)
Commands 2-4 are how we embrace the invitation to abide in Christ.
Commands 5-6, “Love one another” and “Give” are real ONLY as they flow out of #1. If they do not flow out of the full knowledge of #1, they are pretentious and worthless as both Paul and James said.
Commands 7-9, “Watch out,” “Cleanse yourself,” and “Do not love the world” are simply words against the three elements of the lie, the fruit of the law, that is, human achievement, the lie of the serpent, that is, do this first, know God second, and the face of Eve, the one who sees only human performance, that is, only “the things that you do.” In themselves, these commands are nothing. They just tell us what to look out for that will trick us into not obeying #1.
And #10? “Be just like God”? If God is not present in full union with all that we are right now, that one ain’t never gonna’ happen.
Let’s go back to the statement. — We must be willing to get rid of the life we’ve planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come. —
Notice that this brother, carried utterly by Jesus whom he does not yet know, states clearly that he has not tasted of life, does not live in life, does not know life. Here is someone that admits freely and openly that he does not know what life is. Life is “ahead.” Life is “waiting for” him. Life “can come” some day.
If he doesn’t know life, how on earth can he know the way? Not having crossed over fully in all ways into life himself, how does he know what someone who actually lives in LIFE all and NOW has “done” to get there? Not only that, but, not living in life himself, not having arrived, how can this brother (carried utterly by life, though he knows it not) even know what life IS?
My inability to violate my heart is very likely what many called a “lack of submission.”
The moment anyone says, “Do this first, know God second,” it is evident by the admission of their own mouth that they do not and cannot know God and therefore that they do not and cannot know the way.
If there is anything that needs to be discarded, my “plans,” any outward elements of wrong doing, anything – the only way by which it is truly discarded is UNION with all that is God in all that is me as I find myself to be, stumbling and foolish, NOW and First.
Look at the first four commands I teach people to obey. Almost all Christian teachers of “obedience” consider these four commands to be not that important, and they feel free to disregard them. I have never met anyone before I came across the teachers of union with Christ who obeyed Romans 6:11. No other “obedience” will ever replace obeying Romans 6:11. Let’s obey Romans 6:11 right now. I teach no ideas, no “theoretical” gospel.
Let’s obey Romans 6:11 at the top of our lungs. SPEAK.
“God, I do not know sin – You have forgotten it utterly and absolutely. I do not know any shadow of separation from You; I do not know what “disobedience” is even to talk about it. I am right now truly and forever dead indeed to all that You call “sin.” And God, right now, in all that I am as I find myself to be, stumbling and foolish, I AM in all ways and at all times ALIVE unto God.”
There, isn’t obedience a good thing?
Those who see God now before they see with outward sight know glory. Those who wait for the outside to “look like God” before they will know Him, when they do finally see Him, God says, they will weep.
Anyone who requires the outward signs and performance of a “man of God” from me will, in the end, judge me false. I will not produce what they require. Yet I have stated this openly and clearly all along. I really have no idea what I am talking about. That is not a rhetorical statement. I send out what I write to those who know ONLY the God who fills them full as themselves.
I desire to know LIFE in all that He is here and now and personal in me. I write in order to KNOW the God who fills me full. And I know that He fills all that I am with all that He is because #1. He says so, and #2. I asked Him to, and now I know that I possess all I have asked.
You haven’t obeyed the third commandment of the gospel yet? Let’s obey it together right now.
“Father, You say, ‘that we might be filled with all the fullness of God.’ Father, I ask that you fill all that is me, spirit, soul, and body, in all that I find myself to be right now with all that You are in all fullness. Thank you, Father, for doing all that I ask. I know now that I am always filled with all of You in all ways at all times. I will NEVER know anything else.
“Father, You say that rivers of living water, the Holy Spirit of God, flow out of me in all directions at all times because I believe in Jesus. Father, I ask you to fulfill this word in all ways in my life right now. Thank you, Father, for doing all that I ask. I know now that You, Oh God, are always moving out from me as Rivers of Living Water in all that I am, in all that I do, in every moment of my life, now. I will NEVER know anything else.”
You see how good it is to obey God?
But the moment we drop back into any form of “Oh, but first I must…” we have turned our backs on the obedience of faith. If there is no outward seeing that opposes what faith declares, there is no faith. Faith is the evidence, the proof of things that are not presently seen. Those who see life second, will know in that moment that they are barred out because they did not enter by FAITH when the door of opportunity stood wide open and when they could not “see.”
Only the blind who regard Christ their life against all that they see or can’t see will ever enter the kingdom.
Everything God is doing and is about to do in this earth through us, His body, all of it comes out of our present and total union with God FIRST.
Adam did not face any temptation until he approached the Tree of Life. Then all temptation hit him hard; all temptation pressed against his way.
The last place we should be looking for truth is among those who are the closest to LIFE, yet by their own admission, have not entered in. The most dangerous liars on this planet, the ones who will trick us and keep us away from life ARE the deeper truth preachers who preach “life and the fruit of life.” They talk about LIFE, we are drawn to that. They talk about the fruit of LIFE, we are drawn to that. But here is what they say. “You want life? Yes, Life is good, life is God. I know how you will get to life. Let me instruct you. Do this first; when you have fulfilled this, after that, God will be very pleased with you, and He will grant you life.”
“Fruit comes first. The Source of fruit comes second.”
And this is EXACTLY what the serpent offered in the garden.
Here is what Jesus says, “The Source of fruit comes first, full and utter union with Me now in all that you are, including your flesh and your sin. Then, after that, all the fruit that is truly of Me (God in Person) will just flow out of you naturally.”
All who say “fruit before Source” are deceivers – and anointed and powerful Christian ones at that. God says “Source before fruit – All and Now.”
No union means no fruit that is acceptable to God no matter how “Christ-like” it appears to be.
Union with God first. But here IS the reality. Once we accept in our minds (God has given us a mind to know Him) that we are always and utterly inside of God NOW, everything looks entirely different, including God Himself. And when we try to speak of what we now see and know, all of Christianity seems to oppose us, especially those who are the very closest to life.
Because we are utterly inside of Jesus, we see out from His eyes alone, we see all things through eyes of fire.
In the early Spring of 2008 the Lord revealed to me that “I” am swallowed up in Christ. Over the next few weeks I found glorious confirmation of that reality in Fred Pruitt’s writings. From then on I have practiced a continual exercise. Over and over I say three things to myself. I say, “Christ is my life.” I say, “I have no other life.” and I say, “Christ is all there is in me.” I say those things in this context: “I will never know Him in His power until I know Him in (as) my weakness.” And I say those things especially against all opposition and all sight of my eyes. I say those things when I feel far away from God, when by the definitions of Christianity, I have “disobeyed” or done something that brought pain to others. I say those things when I look in the mirror at night feeling wretched and lost and miserable. I say those three things and I say those three things and I say those three things.
I did that for about six months. The opposition was horrible. Wailing cries of accusation assailed me. “You are blaspheming.” But I knew that God says those three things about me, and I will not speak anything else.
Here is what God says.
For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also appear with Him in glory. Colossians 3:1-2
Christ is my life.
Reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.Romans 6:11
I have no other life.
You have… put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him… Christ is all and in all. Colossians 3:9-11
Christ is all there is in me.
Now, before continuing forward, let’s bring in the two strongest verses in the New Testament that seem to speak against what I was doing.
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth… Colossians 3:5 — For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13
There are two means only by which anyone can accomplish this dictate: human effort or faith. Most Christian teachers argue for human effort. Human effort IS “Obey, do not disobey.” Paul argues for faith.
Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Galatians 3:2-3
From February 2008 until November 15, 2008, I spoke those three things until I began to be settled in their reality. Then, on November 15, 2008, I sent out my first Christ Our Life letter.
Everything you have read of me comes out of my daily practice of saying to myself, over and over, “Christ is my only life; I have no other life. Christ is all there is in me.”
Now, in all that I have written, I have written those things along with “We will NOT know Him in His power until we know Him in (as) our weakness” many times. Yet I have said them to myself far more. Anything of life found in what I write comes out of that daily practice, a daily practice that led from saying those things against opposition to truly believing them to knowing they are true to going forth in all things as Christ Himself with no shadow of any other reality.
Now, let’s look at Romans 6:11 and the problem with “Obey, do not disobey.” God commanded us to say, “I am dead indeed unto sin.” That means, “I cannot ever disobey God.” Every single person who teaches “obey, do not disobey,” is practicing “disobedience” to the second most important commandment in the Bible, “Speak Christ.” They are speaking in direct opposition to God’s command to say, “I cannot disobey God.” They imagine they are teaching the “obedience of Christ,” yet their very words are the practice of disobedience.
The wall, the barrier, is the Augustinian definition of God and man. When I say “Augustinian,” I am not saying something abnormal. All Christian thought of both God and man IS Augustinian. Let me give two phrases that are 100% Augustinian. “Christ is the second Person of the Godhead” and “I am not God.” The issue is not whether these things are true ideas or not. The issue is, does God say these things concerning Christ our only life? We cannot ever know God so long as we are saying ideas about God that God does not say. When we speak only what God says concerning Christ our only life, then we know and see God.
Here is what Christ says, “The Father is greater and mightier than I.” “I and the Father are One.” “I do always the will of the Father.”
And here is what God says about you. You, _____________ ______________ (put your name in the blank), are filled, that is, every particle of all that you are, you are filled with ALL of the FULNESS of ME!!!”
To talk about ourselves as if we “disobey” God is to say that God disobeys God. We cannot talk about ourselves for we are dead.
Watch “The Walking Dead.” (Don’t, it’s sickening.) Why is it that the walking dead cannot act human or connect with humans or be kind like humans? That is so easy. They are dead! Why is it that “I” cannot obey God? That’s easy; I am dead. There is no “me” in the equation. I cannot say that “I” am not God because there is no “me.” Neither can I say that “I am God,” for there is no “me.”
Now, God is Himself, but Christ is not. Christ is as me; Christ is many “me’s” as Paul said. I relate with God as Christ relating with God. Christ alone takes me to the Father; I can approach Him no other way.
If I am speaking or thinking or living in “Obey, do not disobey,” then I am not dead and I am not Christ’s. If I am not Christ’s than I get nowhere near the Father. I have no idea who and what He is or who and what I am.
I teach the obedience of Christ. I cannot disobey. If Christ, ascended above the heavens as the resurrected Christ can disobey God, then I can disobey God. If He cannot, then I cannot. For I am He in Daniel Yordy form.
I am Christ in the form of Daniel Yordy (put your own name in the blank and shout it to the heavens) sent forth from the Father into this world to prove the will of God made perfect in my human weakness. I always do the will of my Father.
Now, the question of “Obey what God says, do not disobey,” a statement requiring me to be a person separate from the Lord Jesus, alive in myself and not dead, came at me in such a way that I thought “Maybe I am teaching an incredible lie. Maybe I am actually teaching not to ‘obey’ God.” I sat in that thought for two days. For about 36 hours I stopped speaking, “Christ is my only life; Christ is all there is in me.” I did not think in that way at all.
There is a simple metaphor to describe those 36 hours. – Hell.
In the middle of the night, I awoke and said, “To hell with this.” I again spoke, “Christ is all there is in me. I have no other life except Christ Jesus Himself.”
Then I knew with all certainty, that I, Daniel Yordy, am Christ Jesus Himself in Daniel Yordy form, that I always do the will of my Father, the One who fills all the weakness of my human flesh with all of Himself. The 36 hours of not saying, “Christ is the only life I am,” was as much the perfect will of God as all that I am.
The GREATEST opponents to living inside of God and God inside of us are the Altar of Incense in the Holy Place preachers and teachers, the ones who are a step away from life, but who turn the tree of knowledge into an image of the tree of life. “Obey, do not disobey.”
That image is the image of death, though it appears to be “godly”; it is not Christ who is Life. Christ never tells Himself to “obey God, do not disobey God.” For three hours in Gethsemane only, the Lord Jesus wrestled with “Not My will, but Thine be done.” He wrestled with that for those three hours AS our atonement AS us before God. And we DID what He did inside of Him there, in the only way we could possibly ever do it. The very moment Jesus stood to His feet, you and I turned entirely into Joy.
We do not establish our own righteousness or walk our own atonement. To attempt to do so is both to fail utterly AND to reject Christ our only life. It is to live in an imagination that simply does not exist.
We have one task only right now. This task is so critical to the heart of God it can hardly be underlined and bolded enough. Our task is to see God in us now as we are Christ, that is, God revealed in our human weakness. Our task is to know God in us now as we are Christ, that is, God revealed in our present human weakness. To speak of living as “Christians” trying to make it into a God who is separate from us is to eliminate ourselves from knowing God now.
If I say anything about myself that is not something I can say about the Lord Jesus Christ ascended in glory AND revealed now AS my human weakness, then I am speaking a lie. “I obey,” and by implication, “I disobey,” is to speak not Christ. Christ obeys, end of story. There is no disobedience in Christ; there is no disobedience in me.
Yet I glory in all my infirmities: I rejoice in all my difficulties; I glory in tribulation; I count it all joy when I am hit with every wailing cry, “Daniel, you are blaspheming God.”
No, to see myself as other than Christ Himself as my weakness is blasphemy.
No “Christian” has ever been given to eat of the tree of life. Eating of life is radically different from Christianity. The fruit of the tree of life IS the forbidden fruit in all human thinking, Christian and non-Christian. Christians want a personal God far away from who they are themselves. New Agers want to be themselves an extension of an impersonal god. Both are absolutely hostile to the tree of life.
You will not find in most Christian teaching instruction on eating of the tree of life. They do not know it. (Except those who teach abiding in Christ in fullness.)
The moment we eat of the tree of life, we are in opposition to all. We are in something so radically different from all human experience, both Christian and non-Christian, something no one will tolerate.
The screams of “blasphemy” MUST come wailing against those who eat of the tree of life, of the grace that no one in the Bible experienced, those who are the salvation no New Testament writer knew personally themselves (as Peter said).
Jesus did not teach that Salvation as recorded by Matthew, Mark, and Luke. He did not do so because the Father had reserved the revelation of Jesus Christ entirely for Paul – and entirely after the Path of the Atonement. Jesus said, “Everything I have said about God up until this moment is figurative, now I will tell you plainly about the Father.” Then He stopped speaking. All creation then saw God for real for the first time as Jesus walked the Path of the Atonement. And the most incredible thing all creation saw about God for the first time IS that you and I are utterly and only inside of Him; He is our only life.
When we say, “He is my only life,” it means that we cannot talk about ourself as anything other than Christ Himself in all ways, sent forth into this earth, bearing all human suffering, laying down His life, proving all the will of God IN and AS all of our present human weakness and inability.
We dare not define ourselves by Christian definitions and imagine that we “know” who we are. It is a lie.
We ARE true humans, just like Jesus. We ARE God revealed.
One last thing. Christianity, that is, the tree of knowledge, posits only two possibilities. Either we are obeying God or we are disobeying God. Either we are keeping our human nature – that is, doing something other than the will of God – under control, or we are just letting the flesh run wild, having it’s day. So, when people hear, “Do not live in the darkness of ‘obey God, do not disobey,’” they immediately imagine that the only other possibility is just to do whatever and call the satisfying of our fleshy lusts “the will of God.”
They have no knowledge of something entirely different. They have not eaten of the tree of life. The only entrance into the eating of the tree of life, as I shared as best I can in “The Third Place of Knowing God,” is to allow Jesus HIMSELF to be, be, be, be, be, be, be our very flesh.
When we do that, we discover that “obey, do not disobey” sounds like it honors God, but in truth, it does not. We discover that it is, in fact, living in the tree of do GOOD and do not do evil.
God did not want mankind to know that tree ever. But Adam chose differently. And we have NEVER experienced or known the tree of life. Living in the tree of life is just something utterly, utterly different from what all humans AND all Christians have ever experienced.
We ARE true humans, just like Jesus. We ARE God revealed.
The tree of life IS Christ Jesus coming into this world AS Daniel Yordy proving the will of God entirely through all of Daniel Yordy’s human weakness. This Daniel Yordy (put your own name in the blank), who is one of many forms of Christ, that is, God revealed, is filled with ALL of God the Father. AND the Holy Spirit is Daniel Yordy’s outsides. That Holy Spirit IS always flowing out from this Daniel Yordy at all times.
In other words, God is real, and He really is Salvation.
What do I find in this intimacy I know with the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ as my person AND with the Person of God filling full all the Person of Christ as me? First, I find that all that God says in the Bible is simply speaking of me as Christ revealed. I am the will of God. Second, I find the Lord Jesus Christ exalted above all exaltation as Salvation itself. He has grown so large that I cannot know anything else. I am utterly swallowed up in Him.
And I will never know or speak anything but Christ my only life.
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