Showing posts with label Turnaround Church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Turnaround Church. Show all posts

Monday, 15 December 2014

The TONGUE and the WORD II - THE BREAKTHROUGH SPIRIT

This article funnily enough doesn't mention the tongue and the Word...but it is about the spirit that you will need to continue further in this series.
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GOD OF THE BREAKTHROUGH

The Breakthrough Spirit
At the moment we seem quite meandery with Galatians 2;20, nevertheless many by now have experienced men and women being a literal avatar for God on earth. Some of the key messages we ever heard will be like that. But not only IN MEETINGS...suddenly outside someone will turn, say or do something that is just pure God. If we at that moment say "Blessed are you who come in the Name of the Lord" our whole life will be different. It is a brief PORTAL in time through a KINGDOM DOOR. Quite often they are meetings and possibly ones where everything tried to conspire against us getting there. But quite often, as I say quite unexpected daily God encounter types....and quite often the people are not even Christians...but are simply being natural GODDERS in that moment.
The Israelites MISSED Joshua and Caleb's realistic but faith filled report and listened to the other 10. They MISSED God. Every single one died before the next generation entered the Land.
Perez Uzzah  is a negative breakthrough moment 2 Samuel 6:6-8 It was when Uzzah put his hand on the Ark of God because they were using a jumped up wheel barrow instead of the heavenly blueprint for priests.
We DO want breakthrough though. The Kingdom is established on earth by breakthroughs of God on fleshlife, on demons, on sicknesses, on crazyloop situations that bind us....usually LAWS that have suddenly GONE CIRCULAR on us and we are imprisoned by them. Satan means resister (of God) and he's an expert. Every meeting should be a gathering in the Name of Jesus under an Open heaven. Quite often when an apostolic person with a " door opening type of gift" to the Body of Christ passes through a whole load of hitherto stupid situations immediately unlock.
Chains of house sales. Planning permissions.Sicknesses and diseases.Family squabbles or worse cease. We once had a couple remarry after 20 years divorce and they both got baptised in Emsworth seawater here.
Jesus once said..".from the time of John the Baptist until now the Kingdom of God suffers violence  and the violent take it by force" 


Jesus once said..".from the time of John the Baptist until now the Kingdom of God suffers violence  and the violent take it by force"  Spirit determination.. An attitude which takes the bull by the horns and determines...THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
Here's are some natural and Bible examples of breakthrough moments.
When you were conceived your father's male sperm was the only one out of thousands to break through the surface of the mother's egg. You are a natural victor. A breakthrough merchant!!!!
When you were born that breakthrough event was quite bloody and messy.
If a woman is a virgin the first act of lovemaking may involve a trace of breakthrough!!!
Problems have their breakthrough moments.  Or their AHA moments....sudden breakthrough ideas.
Getting married is a bit of a dance. It's a lifetime commitment as opposed to suck it and see....so both individuals are eyeing the other one closely, and quite often the lady is being stand offish. How much do you want me dear?  The engagement can be quite a breakthrough moment!!!!
There's several characters in the Bible that LEGALLY....as in God's promises....SHOULD NEVER BE WHERE THEY WERE!!!! And they are there because they had this BREAKTHROUGH FEISTY SPIRIT.

they, like the disciples of old block half the world from ever knowing Jesus.

Rahab.....a prostitute...but courageously risked her own life with the Jericho spies.She was literally saved by her faith.
Abigail totally ignored her husband who was a pretty useless good for nothing, and pressed on regardless to help David and his men. No wonder she caught his eye and when her husband died David took her in marriage.
Ruth was a Moabitess and as such in theory BANNED from Israel for at least 10 generations. But she had a fixed heart towards Naomi....."Where you go I will go".   Charismatic churches would have called her rebellious because she was breaking the laws.
That's one of the reasons thirdlevellers don't pay the slightest bit of attention to secondlevellers....they, like the disciples of old block half the world from ever knowing Jesus. God looks to the hearts!!!!
The Canaanite woman's HEART was TOO BUSTING WITH FAITH for God to ignore her. Blow being a Canaanite if I just touch the hem of His garment!!!! Surely the dogs under the table can get little scraps!!!!  WOW...that just BLEW Jesus out of the water!!!!   That's what I came to earth for!!!!! thought Jesus with His eyes welling up.
If we want Jesus we will be like Elaine Waterfield and ignore all British protocols. We will gather because we cannot keep apart.
This very morning Havant Church have allowed people to hold gatherings on certain days so people may feel free to go to each other's houses. Now humanly that's quite a good idea because it resists the tendency of English people to stay in their own English castles.  But a few months ago I sent an email to all the Hayling Island People inviting us all to gather together informally just to be together....more or less the same thing.
BUT Nothing would happen because of all the secondlevel obstacles...
it wasn't official,
it was coming from my heart,
it wasn't sanctioned by leadership,
and I had frightened people off with some of my attitudes and teachings (which are ofcourse just Spirit things to do with BREAKTHROUGH...to do with Christ living our life according to Galatians 2:20...NOTHING DIFFERENT from what you poor Facebook people have been putting up with for years.)

Now as a result of this morning's meeting that I wasn't at, people will be holding gatherings in people's houses....but it won't be like Elaine who bursts through regardless...it won't be people like me who at 16 dive across the continent because I have this hunch that Basilea Schlink has something for me that Gerald Coates or Bryn Jones didn't quite have yet....

When you were conceived your father's male sperm was the only one out of thousands to break through the surface of the mother's egg. You are a natural victor. A breakthrough merchant!!!!

There are PORTALS...TIMED EVENTS...we look for them....we go through them...we ignore what others think....This is God and ME.....God is like that with everyone...He is JEALOUS over all of us.....First thing is the relationship God has with me and I with Him....Network covering smothering apostles can wait outside on the toilet....this is me meeting with God....and others BREAKING THROUGH because they are really desperate for God. Havant Church wouldn't know desperate unless the two leaders John and Wendy Wilbraham wrote a guiding manual....
1. First place your nose upon the floor and cry out loud at precisely 68.5 decibells
for a total of 22 and a half minutes, then increase by 30 seconds daily.

The Word of God truly upon Havant Church is to be a "Turn round Church". Possibly the first truly thirdlevel church in the world. But as you can see from my description we are talking miracle of God here.....at the moment they all have to be told it's OK to enter each other's houses. All this passivity could be related to fluoride in the water killing their pineal glands, so if any continentals would like to send over some of their non fluoridated water, we could yet have revival!!!!
Network covering smothering apostles can wait outside on the toilet....this is me meeting with God

Saints we are in an era of turnaround . The biggest one in history as people start to get revelation on Genesis 3 and the whole RIPOFF....
Already a huge miracle has taken place around 1993 that is just about a first, certainly while I have known the Lord.
A whole cult.....the Plain Truth Cult under Armstrong has turned to the Lord and accepted evangelical truth. Wow. Wow. Usually it's just ones and twos or localised revivals. What an extraordinary thing to happen in our days? This proves that MASS TURNAROUND even scattered across nations is possible!!!!

 Even some of the core ruling dynasties on earth, members of the thousands of year old Satanic dynasty bloodlines are finding the Lord.  Eric Clapton's "Layla" was about one of them.
God is on the move and He is more powerful even than sleepy old bedridden Havant!!!!

Tuesday, 22 March 2011

Something Didn't happen today.....


Something Didn't happen today that may....may turn a page in history
.Note on Facebook by Chris Welch on Monday, 21 March 2011 at 21:55.
There is a Word of God over Havant Church that says its character, its name is "Turnaround Church".

Perhaps now dear Facebook friends can understand why I am hanging around. The calling over Peter Stott's life (the original church leader) and indeed his family members is one of revival.

The jury is still out on what "Turnaround Church" means.I know what I'd like it to mean, but a church is made up of people like myself that "volunteer" in the Day of His Power. We cannot speak for each other. That is coercion.

All I can say is that after meeting with 2 leaders today some things didn't happen.

Every generation that has moved on in light has usually faced a wall of resistance. Luther was excommunicated. Wesley persona non grata in the Anglican Church. The Quakers too. And so the same tale for hundreds of years. The charismatic independent churches were no exception.The wife of the Methodist minister that I grew up with, now 40 years on still asks if I am in the same cult.

So here we are on Facebook and blogs. We, I think,are all pretty confident we are entering something new, a completely new step change. In my opinion it is so huge a transition it will actually make the charismatic move seem like a relative blip.

Thing was the charismatic move had lots of bells and whistles.What some of us are calling Christianity 3.0 or the third level (from Chapter 31 of Norman Grubb's book Yes I Am) is deceptively unimpressive AT FIRST. Then you look round and you realise Romans 8 is starting to mould itself round you. Bits of creation getting set free. And only then does it really hit you the enormity of what is just beginning.

So many thousands have now left church. Voted with their feet. Rushing to be as far away from church pyramid structures as they can safely get. See the Darin Hufford Heidi Venie interviews

http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2010/11/darin-hufford-talks-to-worship-leader.html

And this has been the normal pattern now for hundreds of years, and a lot of us have quoted "ecclesia" as the called out ones. Hebrews 13.13 talks about going outside the city walls, just as Jesus did for us. But then, suddenly , you notice a verse like this one.

Psalm 45 :16 In place of your fathers will be your sons;

You shall make them princes in all the earth.

17I will cause Your name to be remembered in all generations;

Therefore the peoples will give You thanks forever and ever.

Did you catch that in the Spirit?

Instead of the Old Guard for ever and a day holding their Truth up high, and calling themselves for ever by that name, instead the People of God begin to choose willingly and freely to be called by the revelation, the light of the sons. Of the NOW Word, not the THEN Word. And in such a climate permanence is weaved, because it's all about GOD's Name being remembered in all generations. One of the biggest handles the world has on unbelief is how the Church is far from permanent. Well as structures of stone and museums of Law and sadness they may have a permanence, but here the verse is about engendering a dynamic praise among "the peoples". The nearest we have seen to that in the last weeks is the testimony of the Chilean miners, whose emergence caused a sir over the whole of Chile, but rippled out through the whole world.

http://080808onnowto.blogspot.com/2011/02/what-really-happened-down-in-chilean.html



So by rights the two leaders shouldn't have even given me elbow room today. But they did.

Can i just mention that although a lot of us are aware of the sadness and bondage in the former "triumphalist" charismatic networks, there actually is a breed of leader that has demured since. I know several who were at the head of these awful pyramid apostolic structures who have now totally backed out from that style of leadership.

The people in Havant are in that state of transition.



After today I am still none the wiser really. The enormity of what some of us have been through to start to get hold of Father level truths we wouldn't really wish on anyone. Almost without exception it has involved "the cry of desperation" which is something that grips your inside like the pain of childbirth. You know there is an answer out there somewhere, why, because deep down you know your God is not a liar. So you go right out on a limb to find it. Or perish and be damned.One thing you are clear on.....if Christianity has to be "made to work" because it doesn't work of itself...then who wants it?! Leave that to some other fake religion. Our Jesus said His truth would set us free. That's what He said. He either comes through for us or if not then He's a liar. So this way we get our own testimony. This becomes "my gospel" and out of that the Word that comes out of my heart, mouth and life can set others free.



So I was listened to. And a bridge was again built. Actually i am not really sure about the quality of the previous bridge because I think that was built around me being some kind of "charismatic prophet" and doing charismatic type things, whereas now the gloves are off. I am me. This message is me. I cannot be split from it since Jesus is My life. I do not intend to jump through any more charismatic hoops to share the message of Christ as me in my form. For it is the only Christian message that really worked from the apostles onwards.


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June Melanson, Cathy Rheeder, Elaine Waterfield and 2 others like this..
Elaine Waterfield the fact is you were listened to was the actual bridge not just passed by or made to feel like some looney tune. Even if they didnt agree the listening part is the bridge. The call over Peters life is bigger then you think and bigger than he knows but he needs to be obediant and at the minute he needs to listen to what God is saying and be more in tune with him and the calling on his lfe . Maybe the conference will bring this out maybe the picture will become a lot clearer?
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