Showing posts with label law and grace. Show all posts
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Friday, 9 April 2021

Chattan (The Rock) by Prakruthi Angelina, Samarth Shukla & Zayvan




Saints in the West , this is a huge Song.


Chattan (Rock)

In the midst of the whirlwind
You say be still
You are my strength
In You alone I put my trust - Repeat

All this time 
You were with me
Even today
You stand by my side
And you will be with me in the days to come

In the midst of rising Turmoil
You alone are My Rock
And over the rising tide
I see the mark of your footprints

When I go through sickness
You say rise up
Jehovah Rapha
You alone are my healing  Repeat

In the midst of rising Turmoil  etc

Rap
When they come against me
The Burning arrows of the enemy
Or when the enemy brings
shackles to put me in bondage
You became My shield
And destroy every single arrow
By the mention of your Name
every shackle is cut asunder
Pandemic witchcraft whatsoever may be out there

in the world

that any of it should touch me or even come near  me
is just impossible as long as you exist
I've seen, tested and hence acknowledged that You are mine
Since you are with me You would not let a scratch come on me
You have determined that you would not let it happen (translation?)
You are my faith you are My Rock
My heart and my very Life is You
For all the victories You gave me
You are the triumph anthem of celebration
and joyfully celebrate with my whole heart
your footprints are on the waves
You are My Pride
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Sickness your head is bwed low in defeat
You tried to rule over me but you failed
No weapon  has ever been formed
That can prevail against me


In the midst of rising Turmoil  etc


Epilogue
My Trust stands firm in You
My Faith is in you
Continually in you




Manifestations of Genesis 3. The Crabs in the Pot

including teaching on how True Biblical Church in God's Reign operates as opposed to Man's Reign 

 A person can be a drug addict , drunk , whatever , and get help or no ..... But if they actually receive into themselves the Holy Spirit , the unsaved relations will actually project such a hatred they are left with the impression that people prefer that they are druggies and alcoholics . 

Churches are devious the world over at the moment in a similar way . All of them rebel against the Kingdom by creating a Kingdom of man instead . There’s no scripture to support that , but all of them 100% including Bill Johnson instal themselves as pastor / minister / priest at the head of a church and let Jesus in for a few minutes during the worship if He promises to be good and submit to their reign .

 And remember , by compliance , all the congregation have chosen the leaders reign except prophets who are bolshy sons of bitches !!!’ Because prophets and evangelists are often the only true functioning Melchizedek ministries globally , why , because their ministries simply can’t work any other way because they minister at spirit level .

 So that’s the background to the original thread . One of the true Spirit functions of church is like the first covered area of Moses copy of the heavenly tabernacle . We are now in the heavenly tabernacle . So the church is very much a transition area to accelerate you by Word ( Shewbread revelations ) and candlestick lights ( supernatural gifts and helps and root problem removers in the Holy Spirit ). AND ALL THIS SHOULD BE DONE IN A SAFE SPACE. 


You’ve heard the phrase checks and balances ? The second a pyramid leader runs the show , however good they were to start , the illegal pyramid triangle is just flagging in the devil to put extremes of pressure on one individual . 

Statistic : 70% of pastors burn out in the States . Probably more now !! 

In the transition area WHICH IS MEANT TO BE A SAFE SPACE ..... you submit yourself to the Lord like the paralysed man , to be carried and for your Christian brethren to smash a few holes in roofs and get you let down at Jesus feet past the obstacles . This is an intercession picture . It’s how genuine church works . But there are no genuine churches . They are all run by circus ringmasters who are disobeying the whole function of Kingdom . 

Ie ITS A KINGDOM STUPID NOT A HUMAN MANDOM . 

Because that SAFE SPACE should be presided over in the Spirit by ( well let’s take Acts 2 as that’s the only blueprint we are given over 5 whole history narratives 4 gospels plus Acts ) 12 mature Spirit brought forth father level guys plus 120 other blood bought saints in tow who , chastened over letting God be killed in front of them , were now sensitive to the DEER of the Holy Spirit among them . Like the deer , the Holy Spirit just ups and leaves if there’s too much noise and bustle ( Human Genesis 3 out of flow stuff). 

There’s a reason overseers are called overseers . They “ see over “ what the Holy Spirit is doing . In the Old Testament the 12 elders sat in Gate 10 ( Miphkad) and assessed the quality of the worship animals . Well now it’s a Holy Spirit thing . It has a flow . It’s not only the mature in Christ , but now in the Jeremiah 31 new covenant it’s all the saints learning to “ weigh everything in the Spirit” as well .

 For gatherings there’s apostles prophets pastors teachers and evangelists . The difference in Acts was 2 main things 

 1. There were 12 mature saints 

 2. Mature saints existed .

In 1 John 2 it states in the Spirit there are three entire mansions of growth . They are so enormous they now comprise whole groups of people or denominations . There are whole denominations and groups that only know about a God . Similar to Terah , Abrahams Father . 

There are whole groups who only have faith for the birth of a supernatural child inside us : being born again . Similar to Abraham believing for a son . 

 Since 1900 there are now  groups again  all over the world who have faith for wells and heavenly provisions like Isaac . Like the Holy Spirit realms that baptism in the Spirit takes us to.

 But there’s a whole realm of Jacob , where we really undergo the Name Change . And similar to Acts but more glorious , God is fashioning a worldwide Church Divinely by the Holy Spirit which take everybody through the Name Change . 

Prophetic people are really key , because we can perceive when people are still living inside Genesis 3. This is why we are so hated . This is why the whole fourth quartile , the John quartile are so hated in the earth . BUT THIS IS WHY GOD IS DEMONSTRATING TO THE WHOLE EARTH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE OTHER THREE QUARTERS ONLY OBEY THEIR FIVE SENSES AND ARE DECEIVED INTO COMPLETE PLANETRY LUCIFERIAN PRISON , including AI, 5G TECHNOLOGIES AND “BEAST “ MAKING VACCINES .

So to return finally to the original thread of thought . Because churches are not safe under pyramid rulers , even if you transition the secondlevel of growth successfully , because the leadership themselves are not mature thirdlevellers and still living hugely within Genesis 3 orphandom , Well In Song of Solomon 5 it says what happens .......and notice that is in a Jewish many elder context WATCHMEN 

 NOW WE DONT EVEN HAVE PLURALITY . It’s the SOLE LEADER WHO ACTS LIKE STALIN WITH HIS “ ELDER MINIONS “ TO LEND THEM CREDIBILITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!! When it stinks to high heaven .

 What happens at the moment when you take the St Peter Leap out of the boat into Union Living , Galatians 2.20 living The Stalin Watchman doesn’t refer to any of that , but precisely the concupiscence as St Paul puts it in Romans 7 , they refer to the very histories that God used to show you how paralysed you were inside Genesis 3 , and they use this to forever tar your reputation . 

The holy place is not a place to ever refer to these things or only in reference to how great Jesus is to raise a person out of them .

 So just like the drug addict now healed by Jesus , the only thing friends and family refer to is the Genesis 3 condition . They do this as Romans 1 says , to make them feel better . If you boil crabs in a pot , you don’t have to have a lid . Because if a crab thinks of climbing out , the rest pull him back down into the pot again .

We are not so . We are learning to live outside the bounds of Genesis 3 altogether . If you abide in My Word then you are truly My disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free . ( free indeed ).

THERE'S A JUDGMENT ORDER
AND THERE'S AN ORDER OF GRACE
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE ARE SO ROOTED IN THE NEW THING THERE'S NOT THIS ENDLESS SMOKE IN THE EYES BEING PRODUCED FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

THE THIRDLEVEL PROPER DOESNT REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GENESIS 3 BELIEVING SYSTEM. SIN BECOMES LIKE FALLING OFF WHEN RIDING A BIKE.....

POSSIBLE...BUT WHO EVEN BOTHERS THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF HOW POWERFUL THE LAWS OF BALANCE ARE AS YOU PEDAL!!!!







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Tuesday, 22 January 2013

Clearing Old Covenant Law out of the House

The Tithing issue is a bolt out of the blue for me. I was having some more thoughts today while working. See, it's not, or I thought it's not ,even a primary issue thing. All of a sudden Julie Anne O'Connor Morris and Bertie Brits were talking about it about 4 years ago. As one born again in the 70s Jesus Move...it was just something that was universally accepted like breaking bread or baptism in water. My primary goal on here is to share "the missing link" that is in the gospel of the New Testament, but pretty well unknown today....which 1. Explains the lack of corporate power even though we now know about the Holy Spirit and 2. Explains why unlike in the Bible, people don't even bother with our charismatic churches....there's no need for persecution, there's nothing there to persecute!!!! Then this issue of tithing randomly emerges. Well today I was feeling that it had a symmetry with an event in Jesus time. Yesterday I said " In order to see the power of God, sometimes we have to make holes in religious men's ceilings." Let's look at what Jesus was doing in His time. he was taking a people of God that were in one stage of knowing into another level. The Israelites understood that forgiveness came from God.They had an "outercourts" relationship with God. Jesus took 12 men and showed them how to operate in a Holy Place relationship with God. He started to take them into the innercourts. A place of power and the Holy Spirit. Before He was going to move everyone in , in Acts 2, He did something prophetically, to clear the way. HE REMOVED TRADE from the Temple declaring it a House of Prayer FOR THE NATIONS.
Well, in preparing the way for a HOLIEST PLACE CHURCH, A THIRD LEVEL CHURCH, A PSALM 91 CHURCH, God is now clearing the Inner courts of TRADE. He is making it clear and known by independent servants of the Lord that the whole TITHING SYSTEM, which was never a part of the New Covenant IS TO CEASE ! It is a symbiotic system which supports those who shouldn't even be in ministry and has a negative spiritual power, just as the temple traders did in Jesus day, which actually prevents the move to the NEXT LEVEL.~Chris Welch~
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  • Netivyah Tracy Zimmermann Wow, that is so wrong.
  • Deborah Prater Samples What do you feel is wrong?
  • Robert L Williams I was still give whats GODS
  • Havis Gabbard What about Mt 23:23
  • Netivyah Tracy Zimmermann It is not for man to end what YAH has instituted.
  • Havis Gabbard When did the eternal God change his mind and break his eerlasting covenant with the seed of Abraham whose seed we are by faith.
  • Linda Dean Tithing is a LAW. We are no longer under any law.
  • Havis Gabbard Beg your pardon tithing existed long before the law.
  • Al Hall B.C.297 Malachi chapter 3' You must ''REMEMBER'' this Bible' has been twisted, by this' and the last Generations..NO DISRESPECT, too the Bible...I red about all the books ! 10%, give what YOU CAN, and SMILE... Remember the POOR WIDOW in the GOSPEL..? Smile SISTER God is GOOD. !~ I have forgot, with all this Pounded, of the Spiritual Realm... Look at the Hands... SEE THE HOLES...Galatians 2:20... If you are, on this Level,never worry about Pass. Smile' When YOU get Marry... RICHER or POORER !~
  • Robert L Williams there is a Huge difference in temple trade and Tithing
  • Linda Dean When people UNDER THE LAW tithed, they gave 10th of their SPICES, not money
  • Linda Dean AL Malachi was the OLD LAW
  • Robert L Williams "He is making it clear and known by independent servants of the Lord that the whole TITHING SYSTEM, which was never a part of the New Covenant IS TO CEASE !"" thats what was Quoted above, Independent servants of the lord... sounds like a bunch of hog wash to me .. Just sayin... Too Pay or Not to pay... To GIVE or not to Give, u decide! God will be the judge in the end, and we will give an account ! BLESSINGS
  • Larry Johnstone Tithing is an act of faith.
    It is a work of faith just as baptism is.
    Paul taught on this subject in Hebrews 7th chapter in reference to Abraham and not to Moses and the law.

    Who do men give witness to that he lives? We all know we give witness to Jesus Christ being raised from the dead.

    Jesus Christ recieves tithe when men give a tithe God according to this verse from Hebrews 7

    Hebrews 7:8
    And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth .

    ....there he receiveth them....whom it is witnessed that he liveth..

    Men have corrupted tithing but name any subject men have not corrupted...including marriage, yet we do not stop believing in marriage because men have corrupted it.
  • Havis Gabbard Gen 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. Tithing existed over 400 years before the law it is a part of Abraham's covenant which he made with God and bound his seed to that covenant forever. The law only relay what the covenant had made know.
  • Linda Dean . It was part of the law for the nation of Israel. God said it was. He said tithing was (1) for the nation of Israel to give, (2) for the tribe of the Levites to receive, and (3) was of the Law. Even in the New Testament this is clear. "Now consider how great this man [was], unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a COMMANDMENT to take tithes of the people ACCORDING TO THE LAW". Heb 7:4-5. "And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes , to gather into them out of the fields of the cities THE PORTIONS OF THE LAW for the priests and levites...." Neh 12:44.

    "And all the tithe of the land, [whether] of the seed of the land, [or] of the fruit of the tree, [is] the LORD'S: [it is] holy unto the LORD.… 34 These [are] the COMMANDMENTS, which the LORD COMMANDED MOSES for the children of Israel in mount Sinai". Levi 27: 30-34. (Tithing was of the Law of Moses
    , tithing is never, never mentioned to any of the New Testament churches. There are many that feel if tithing is not taught today, then no one would give anything. That may be true for some, but I believe that real Christians will be led of the Holy Spirit to give and to give all, if necessary for God's work and to help other saints in need.

    It seems to me that most churches today have gotten themselves in this mess because most operate as businesses, and when they do, they must have a source of revenue in order to operate the business, and must have an executive or businessman to run the business. But, early churches did not operate as businesses, because God did not set them up to run that way
  • Al Hall ''TRUE'' indeed... Its a spiritual War, Over this Money... 2 Corinthians 9:7 Render Cesar' what is Cesar,and GOD WHAT IS GOD...Show me, WHO Substitution is THIS, and the Roman' Saith, Cesar,WHAT did the JESUS Said...
  • Linda Dean Deobrah you are spot on!!!
  • Linda Dean Al Hall say what??? That statement does not make sence
  • Linda Dean AL, your talking about the yearly TAX that they gathered, that's not a tithe.
  • Havis Gabbard If u hold to that argnent then try a new testament offering. Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
    46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 2 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
  • Linda Dean to teach that God wants tithing in New Testament churches today, when He nowhere said in His word that He does. We should obey God and not men. Men today command tithing, but God has nowhere commanded New Testament churches to tithe. "… let God be true , but every man a liar;…." Rom 3:4. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for teaching that you can't do anything on the Sabbath, even good things. They twisted this Law to be a burden to others. They made it appear as God's word and Jesus said, no, you are "Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition," Mk 7:13. It seems that tithing has also become a tradition or commandment of men in today's churches. "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." Titus 1:14. This verse says that when you follow commandments of men rather than what God says, that you will turn from the truth. More and more, you will turn from the truth. Tithing today, what tomorrow?
  • Havis Gabbard You still have not addressed Jesus' endorsement of tithing in Mt 23:23
  • Linda Dean Havis that's GIVING< not to be confused with TITHING. If you really want to tell the truth here, all so called churchs today should be like that. Everyone sell everything they have, so that NO ONE LACKS. Yeah, when you find a true church like that........get back at me.
  • Havis Gabbard You must half read I said it was an offering not tithing
  • Linda Dean What about Matthew 23:23 Havis?? Lets look at it..Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! rFor you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, LOOK <<<<< tithe of mint and anise and cumin SPICES. Remember, these people were still UNDER the LAW.. Jesus didn't say pay your money
  • Linda Dean 1000 apologies Deborah, didn't mean to take over your page, but this is one subject the Body of Christ is totally ignorant on.
  • Steve Yong Kim Rich or poor God is no respecter of men. And since men have a wicked heart and if men are allowed to determine how much to give to God, are they not playing God now?

    Rich or poor, God made it equal playing field. Give 10% flat rate. Simple is it not?    ...See More
  • Havis Gabbard Linda Sears your last statement is absolutely untrue. that Jesus was operating under the law in Mt 23:23. Luk_16:16 (KJV) The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. The law and the prophets ceased with John the baptist.
  • Linda Dean Steve, if you want to stay under the law, well, now, God Bless ya there, however, IM under GRACE. Remember you law keepers, you keep one law, scripture says you have to keep them ALL............
  • Linda Dean Havis, go back and read all 616 laws k?
  • Chris Welch Tunji Ayoade Chris, do u know it is the whole dismantling of the sonship message snail mailing ministry too. I watched that uprooted too.
    Giving should be 100% of urself to Him. Then He takes what He wants at whatime, where, how, materially, emotionally etc etc!!!. Amen
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    Tunji Ayoade What if it's ur sleep He wants to take. Lol.
  • Linda Dean Jesus was under the law as he was the high Priest.
  • Juan Araujo i really dont comment but here it goes. I tithe everything my bonus checks my tax returns and my paycheck. And the God of Abraham ,Isaac and jacob whos name happens to be Jesus has never let me down. Im thank my pastor preaches tithing offerings and sacraficial offerings. How can one call themselves Apostolics when you question the word of God. How can tiu call your self apostolic and not share the gospel.
  • Havis Gabbard Linda I reat the bible
  • Steve Yong Kim There is a Big difference between ceremonial law and LAW. Can I steal? Can I lie? Can I cheat?

    Grace is there to help us get things right with God. It is not there so we can do what we desire.

    Romans 3:31(AMP) Do we then by [this] faith make the Law of no effect, overthrow it or make it a dead letter? Certainly not! On the contrary, we confirm and establish and uphold the Law.
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