20th Century Foundations of the Thirdlevel Move

Ever since the early Pentecostal move broke out people have been pushing back boundaries. The ministries of apostle and prophet were rediscovered in the later apostolic movement. Jessie Penn Lewis as a "father level" individual in God's 20th Century Move cannot possibly be overstated yet apart from her books , precious little is known widely. But she really affected Norman Grubb, and her writings really influenced Watchman Nee.
Ofcourse we have to thank hundreds and thousands of greater and lesser known pentecostal pioneers for literally laying hold of heaven's power in an increasingly atheistic and warlike age....but i wanted to highlight those who were pushing things towards the thirdlevel.
I could have included Sam Fife who fathered the huge early prototypes of thirdlevel church, but if you read online you will hear of many many bad bad outcomes of these early pioneers. William Branham is often described as going off the rails....but i heard the other week that the CIA made huge claims about drink problems. Anybody who starts to "get" the internal world of Galatians 2:20 immediately "crosses" the Spirit boundary much ridiculed by a world totally trapped in the tyranny of the leftbrain. Power doesn't reside in the leftbrain, so if you want to do exploits for God you HAVE to move into other parts of you....and this is why the Spirit has been outpoured, to teach us and lead us in these things.
Why Morris Cerullo? Many teach baptism in the Spirit. Some teach baptism in the Spirit and fire. But Morris was raised up to begin teaching on what he calls the New Anointing. In the pictorial form of Jerusalem's Gates this connects with the double portion anointing of the Gate of Ephraim the 11th Gate. Anointing on its own isn't enough. But in the Holiest Place we see a Mercy Seat stacked out with three aspects of Word, and IN THAT PRECISE CONTEXT of Galatians 2:20 living is the most incredible experience of Shekinah glory anointing overhead that the CHURCH has never really come into.....YET!!!!!
Why Mother Teresa? Well loads do charity works. But SHE WAITED ON GOD for decades, then in the context of Jesus living her life as her....she was commissioned to do charity work as few have done....actively eating Christ every morning in the form of the Eucharist and living out from that on the streets among the dying and homeless. This is a whole different level of Christ reaching out through the church.
ENJOY perusing. I'd love to know what you think?

A Third Level Approach to Ministry III

Continuing the series that looks at how we do the whole thing of "Ministry" as the present Body of Christ.
To quote Gerald Coates from nigh on 40 years ago, "radical" means concerned with the root.
If the root of how we do ministry is a bit off, then like the Tower of Pisa, it doesn't get better the further up we go.

Me and the present setups
After all my postings you are probably aware of the slightly schizophrenic nature of this blog. On the one hand I want to encourage any good, God-raised up vehicle that gets people from a to b in Christ. If there are colleges that are being used to ground people in the Word of God. If there are networks or families of churches that are continually planting out here and abroad. If there are evangelists,especially signs and wonders evangelists bringing in a harvest of new people to Christ, and from there into existing churches.
My problem is this word "vehicle".

Since being with Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk I saw a kind of prototype Kingdom.
A prototype self-replicating Body of Christ. A Body that was birthed in the intercessory pain of Joel. The priests before the altar. Of Graham on a crypt floor for 3 months (read his book in my book list)surrounded by a broken neighbourhood...that neither wanted his church - nor could see anything else in life than the struggle to just survive. Nobody in my hearing has ever used the word "vehicle" about Graham Pulkingham and the Fisherfolk Community.It wasn't a vehicle. It was Christ in their forms.

Here was faith. Evangelistic faith....even willing to come into Dr Challoner's Grammar School Amersham, fresh over from Houston Texas. But here was something else too. Here was a covenantal love between everybody. That was more than duty. There had been some dying and resurrecting...as in Jamie's last post . In Song of Solomon the younger sister is berated for being like a Tower....not having the well developed breasts of Faith and Love.

If we do not have well developed faith and well developed love...
our evangelism contains a lot of hoopla, a lot of brow-beating, a lot of pressure...

The thing is... the gospel is real, folks. We can do some dying and resurrecting. What resurrects is not us, but Christ...in all His unique fragrances and oils. People know on their insides that we have been with Him. The truth is actually far deeper. The truth is He has eaten us for lunch!!!
He never was really that interested in our lives before knowing Him. As clever as we may have thought we were. Whatever we were we really do count as loss. Cos when you've had tasters of Him radiating His Life out through you....such that every one in the room becomes a little irradiated themselves....well why would you ever go back?
So this is my problem
with large networks like Salt and Light, like New Frontiers,and all the many others out there
are they what I have described...the self-replicating Body of Christ
or are they just machines...just vehicles? It was never in Gerald Coates' heart to create a vehicle. But is this in fact what we are left with? New carts for the glory of God. Instead of the poles in my parable.
This is what prompted this post
Obviously I was struck over the weekend by the frankness of Dan's post on Life on Wings. But this is what hit me forcibly yesterday afternoon. And this is nothing to do with Dan.
There is a breed of person who remains in the academic world all his life. Like CS Lewis. Or let's take a Mr Smith. He does all his schooling. He goes to University. He does a Phd, then becomes a teacher in a school. Then out of 30 or more pupils, maybe one or two do likewise. So there already you have 2 generations of pupils that have perpetuated an academic life to perpetuate an academic life.
My point is more subtle than to say we perpetuate academic life, academic study of the scriptures...to forever be replicating just knowledge of the scriptures. Perhaps that is the preserve of the evangelical churches. No my point is a continuation of the last ministry posts.
What our networks perpetuate is a 2 level gospel of forgiveness and moving in the Spirit. The vision of faith (the God of Abraham and his faith walk) and the vision of the Baptism in the Spirit (the God of Isaac and his wells) but nearly nobody reproduces the Life Change or Name change which is hidden in the phrase "seek the Face of the God of Jacob" And it is this last revelation that changes a believer into an oozing Christ stick like Graham Pulkingham. It is this final element that meant the Israel history could start rolling. Via the 12 sons....and we know the rest.
And it is this final level that makes Ed Miller, and Mother Basilea Schlink stand out like Lighthouses in the sea of other ministries. Because, through doggedly seeking God themselves, they both found it,taught it and radiated it. And something similar was coming through Mother Theresa, who for 40 years did nothing but seek God....then when she was called to India she went as "Christ as her". She knew her identification, to use Jorge Pradas' phrase.

The model of Salt and Light under Barney Coombs, and Terry Virgo's New frontiers, and Morris Cerullo's God's Victorious Army , and Rheinhardt Bonnke's ministry schools, and YWAM's Discipleship Training Schools are wrong. They are 2 level affairs, with built-in add ons to try and make up for the deficiences. And to go back to the academic example. This insufficiency is perpetuated throughout the generations. At what point do people learn to live in the real world as "Christ as them". Then perpetuate that. At what point do people see right into the problem of Genesis 3:5, so they can correct it. They don't. So a shallow 2 level Christianity is forever perpetuated.

As I've described before about the Word being like a suspended orb(see comments section of this post)....in the end, when I listen to folk I'm not listening just to their words or their message, I am looking to see if the orb of God's Presence is suspended within what they are saying. This will make more sense if you read the passage again. Because English ministries have little or no knowledge of the 3 part Way of God
You get a limp and flaccid 2 part version
You get sound-ish docrine, but no Presence
You get add-on ministries like "Celebrate Recovery" in Derby church because of the insufficiencies in the original gospel....which leaves people still bound in their particular brand of sins, as I was.Worse than this by the way....at least 3 or 4 of the young people I was in Bible House with are dead. Many more are divorced. Already. I think it's important you read to the end of this post. I am not speaking out of lightweight experience.Perhaps now you can understand where I am coming from with 1st and 2nd level churches
The struggles that Dan describe this weekend are treated by the 1st and 2nd level churches as a brief abberation, as a slightly embarrassing interlude in the running of network churches. This is the tone of one of the Salt and Light church people when describing Todd's difficulties of 2005...let alone his more recent difficulties. It hasn't yet hit the Network churches that THIS IS THE GOSPEL. Everyone plays down these seeming abberrations...but this is Romans 7...this is the Psalms experience David is going on about. This IS how we decide in a safe universe to make a change on the inside of us. This is no human decision. This is a miracle. This isGod doing something at last...when all else failed.(Read Corrie Ten Boom) While we lean on the ultimate victory of the Cross 2000 years ago....this is us making it ours. It is debilitating...read Maurice Smith's 20th Century Pilgrim. It is embarrassing...especially to the pull yourselves up by your bootstraps brigade. But you see, those ones are not fully born again yet. Grace is not active in them yet. Their eternal destiny may be sealed....but God is not just about people's eternal destinies...He wants to get Christ up and running in me and you too...just like all those "top shelf" Christian bookshop people.
Like Watchman Nee. Like Corrie ten Boom. Like George Verwer. Like Madame Guyon. Like John Bunyan who describes all this in incredible detail in Pilgrim's Progress. And no, the order in his story is not wrong. It's you and your churches that are wrong.

Network churches build warehouses of Christians they don't know what to do with. They celebrate two out of the three feasts. Passover and Pentecost. And then they make Tabernacles into a reiteration of Passover because it has a Day of Atonement in it. see Joseph Prince.

No. No. No. Atonement is where it is in the sequence for a reason. If you are established in Passover and Pentecost...and you know His love and His forgiveness and His Presence....on the basis of that grounding He can begin walloping you like a teenager...to conform you into His sonship...to make you into an adult...a Co-worker with Him. Rather than looking at David in an embarrassed way...poor thing...he went through such stuff in the wilderness with Saul and that.... you've got to see that THIS IS THE WAY OF GOD. It's not something God is embarrassed about either.

To conclude I prophesy this with reference to our previous chats recently about Israel.
When the Church gets the revelation about Jacob...and the Name change
When the Church gets the revelation about The Day of Atonement
In that day we are going to provoke the nation of Israel to jealousy
And in that day we will see with our own eyes
A True Day of Atonement
The two houses being made as One (At one-ment) with their God and with each other.
Both flawed and floored by the grace of God in equal measure...that NO MAN MAY BOAST.

Selah

Can You handle a Body of Christ with Rob Rufus and Buddy Cobb in?

Today's post, which is the last for a few days, was inspired by feedback to this site.Can you handle being in the same Body of Christ as Rob Rufus and Buddy Cobb of the International Ministry Association? From a left-brain dilemma point of view that is "saved forever" versus "work out your salvation with fear and trembling". (Interestingly enough this site has both NewFrontiers preaching and Buddy Cobb .) Can you handle your insides being stripped right down to the bare essentials of "Do you actually know the Father's love for you?" ...which is Mark Stibbe and the launch of his associated ministry not only of impartation into the Body of Christ but also towards orphans and orphanages. Can you handle Brad Jersak, possibly even more on the Mother Theresa , Rolland and Heidi Baker side of the Anointing? Can you handle the Christians in Liss, Hampshire. They are actually all your brethren, even while throwing mud at each other for each standing on the Wesley or Whitfield sides of the line...that is Armenianism versus Calvinism. Every single one of the above are standing on very real scriptures.

Many of you are in your late 20s,30s,40s and 50s and are grappling with these things. Can you imagine what it was like as a 16 year old boy to become a nun for 2 weeks over at the Sisterhood of Mary (actually Lutheran) with Mother Basilea Schlink whilst having Maurice Smith's "Amazing Grace" sticking out of my back pocket ?

Yet it's all in the Bible. How can we handle all this? Do you know what? WE DON'T! That Bible teaching that you have crammed into your left-brain...like the parable of the Cave says in another context, was never meant to be carried in the fresh Ox-cart of your left-brain like that.
It does not mean you can't humbly reason things out, learn better to articulate God's Life....but the left-brain is quite a small appendage with severe limitations...for example it cannot even learn to drive a car...you do that with your spatial side...so how in God's Name are you ever going to hold the deep wells of over 1000 pages of scripture in the little shrivelled up balloon of your left-brain? The only designated and God-designed slot for His Truth is your spirit, whereby bits of bubbled up articulations emerge now and then , via your left-brain to begin to share with others what are the depths and heights of the glories Jesus plunged us into when He died.

Here's a clue though. Jesus' Divine Life that God has blessed us with has these two aspects simultaneously: though secured for eternity, because what can ever permanently touch the Life of Christ?....it has been to hell and back after all....never once sat on its laurels but was heard for its loud crying...calling out to God to fulfil His Will in the Earth. The Divine Life "works out its salvation in the fear of God"with fear and trembling" while also writing confidently through Paul "We are not of those who shrink back?" How does Paul know that? How can Paul be so confident with the spiritual state of so many folk? Does he think "ah I know Aristarchus, he's a really good fella...he'll make it? Saphira Lemera, she always helps old people...she'll succeed! "

No, no. He knows that the same Jesus Christ who lives in him, and who doesn't shrink back , that's Jesus' trade description, is the same Jesus Christ growing in the saints he is writing to.
That's the trick! That's how you can listen to Rob Rufus, and Buddy Cobb in one sitting and not explode. Or Mother Basilea and Maurice Smith.

I just thought this post would be good for your personal health and your family, who would have to clear up the mess of your exploded body.