Thursday 19 June 2014

Jargon Recap

Mark Jones Thanks for providing the blog links, Chris. I don't know if it's just me but I struggle to follow some of the things you are saying. It's not a left-brain vs. right-brain thing, I think, but lack of context / information. For instance, I don't really know what you mean by "1st / 2nd / 3rd level church" (though I've started now reading some of your blogs on the topic) or the "order of Melchizedek" (I've come across the latter concept before but I'm not sure if we're thinking about the same things).

If you could generally give some more background information about things that may not be universally-understood concepts, or blog links if you've written before about it before, I think it would help (me at least anyway). Thanks mate.
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Chris Welch 1. a thirdlevel church....and I don't know of like a bus that has its destination sign clearly written...say Portsmouth to Glasgow and not London or York.
 Denominational churches are forever quoting thirdlevellers ...St Francis,Madame Guyon, Fenelon, Basilea Schlink....but similar to the manner in which they quote the Bible itself they haven't a clue how to "get there" nor how to make those other experiences their reality. They should really have Petersfield on the front of their buses. 1 John2 spells it out. The child stage is our entrance into the Kingdom through the shed blood of Jesus.
The young man stage is like mature evangelical churches or charismatic churches that start to talk more about our new identity. Dave Bilbrough : I am a new creation. A fight of faith. many in this phase leave or progress no further than their child stage of believing.
Stage 3.only happens after your consciousness has been "fixed" in the new Christ reality in stage 2. And like a fruitbearing plant you toddle off to scatter some seed elsewhere. So far since Acts 2 and perhaps Antioch we don't know of any other thirdlevel churches. Clearly Paul intended Corinthians to be one in time...but beacuse he was killed and because Acts is unfinished we don't know the outcome.

 2. Many charismatic churches are led by pastors who don't know how to follow the Spirit. So after half an hour's song list...which they have usually vetted....they then recommence something like a standard protestant sequence of events in a church meeting.
If people really lock in to the Living Presence of Jesus Christ, then the meetings really start to function according to Christ's own Priesthood at the right hand of God the father. The environment Jesus moves in, the protocols, can be summed up in the phrase...the Melchizedek Order.
The reason so many are being called to "soak", to seek the face of God, to wait on Him, is because this is how we gain sensitivity to "only doing what we see the Father doing". Churches that don't have this sensitivity, (also described in Psalm 123) are already beginning to stick out like sore thumbs...but this will only increase in time.

1 comment:

Jules said...

Ooooh yes i get this.