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All references below are comparing the work and processes of the Holy Spirit to  married relationship.
 

" If you can receive it ?" Says Jesus of His Word. 

An American couple in the 70s preached very circumspectly I might add , (it was a renewed Baptist church) , that worship was like a couple making love . A bride has to be ready....

To receive the Seed that will make a human .

We have to be ready to receive the Seed that will make a new human .....either more born again ones or our own complete transformation in Christ's heavenly life .

Kathie asked about the Diverse word I was using from the three in 1 Corinthians 12.

See, I believe we don't give birth properly in the earth ....because we don't pay a blind bit of notice to what's in the Bible.

Psalm 84 says about blessed men of God and probably manesses as well .....that they've adjusted where their strength comes from , they've adjusted the direction arrow of their agendas, they've overturned a few weeping vales and they are revealed before God in Zion . They arent a silly pastor king with a three year paper certificate in giving talks with three points. 

So there are 12 of these mature overturners, but they feature once the faith level has been raised some . The first DIVERSE is Jesus on the sofa .

Here any member of the born again baptised in the Spirit Christians are led in turn contributing supernatural gifts of the Spirit or contributions from Jesus ....maybe testimony , prophetic prayer , a new song .....

This lifts the gathering to a sense of rhema Word , what God is saying now .

With heightened faith it's worth having his prepared servants or elders share deeper things .

Again. Diverse. Plural. In Africa with oral tradition maybe one hour each relieved by a bit of praise. 

If its Argentina , ten to 20 minutes each . Everything has to be short and zappy.

But the idea is to be open to the Holy Spirit direct to be overshadowing the Bride ....this Diverse is called the operations of the Spirit .

The disciples used to say to Jesus ' Are you still carrying on ' And Jesus said ,' while My Father is working so must I continue to do His works '.

I guess our leftbrain equivalent has been to hear a sermon and respond at the altar . Well thats a bit formalised . Sometimes Dave and Patricia Lage just feel to exclaim ' Fire ' . And the Holy Spirit ministers accordingly. 

Don't look at the world churches and think because this and this doesn't happen the Holy Spirit may have changed . Just be as attentive what the Bible says . Then we will get Bible results .

There's nothing about a Pope, a solo priest in charge, a vicar, a pastor. Just plural ministries of about 14 different types in 3 lists .....and we now have book authors, worship leaders. Prayer commanders, and podcast interviewers. 

Ive lived 6 years in a Body House . I have some idea of what was happening among the disciples of all different personalities all taking Jesus yoke upon them and learning of Him . John Stevens knows some of this , but more attune to the gospels , Roffey , Horsham church were ministering in city evangelism. 

All of us have fragments of Body experience ....but if we had loads of ministering thirdlevellers we would be doing all of it as City on a Hill church in every place .

The Restoration of David's Tabernacle IS in Acts , so it's not like Bethel , Winsley One Church Emsworth and David and Marie Helser are completely wrong .....it's just that Jesus in us as us , is exactly that .....pretty darned varied ....and it is God who reveals us before Himself in Zion .

Most of us don't show up yet because we only have first and secondlevel pyramid run churches and ecclesia is what the word ecclesia means .

1 John 2 ....fathers who know Him who is from the beginning ....actually means something. 

So do the 5 wise virgins who have been collecting way more than one flask of oil .

Church Instructions

 

I'm Happy with my current message

Duncan Campbell is his name

 

for those who want to learn more of my mention:

The Hebrides Revival and Awakening 1949-1953 

A Bigger Revival Cycle than Normal

 

I don't know what led up to the Pentecostal outpourings in several key locations , except as soon as the 1850s revival waned the Welsh chapel prayer meetings were on the job.

Maybe by then , both in the States and UK they were on approximate 50 year cycles and that is what they had learned to do . I don't know about Black Forest the heart of occult Bavaria or Armenia or the Pacific Islands . They will have a story .

I lived the 60s and it was a smaller version of now for negativities . Loads of alarm clocks set up by the enemy including Communist Cuba . Now with hindsight we can see Tavistock BBC programming Britain by increments , making it look a natural thing . Yesterday I saw a post for a sitcom called Robin's Nest . Totally unrealistic in practice because in reality the mixed sexes or same sex individuals close themselves off , each having their own lives .

The main thing is the Jesus Move happened .

They gathered in houses because the other churches wouldn't have Baptism in the Spirit .

Or some Word based churches , like some Baptist churches and some more open Brethren took baptism in the Spirit on board .

Bible weeks happened , really the start of the Spirit filled conferences that are more cross the board then just the Pentecostal groups , and these became the new churches .

The missing link in both evangelicalism and the new churches is the same . The Holy Spirit is doing His job taking people through the material of Romans and Ephesians , but we haven't the thirdlevellers still that existed in the New Testament . And quite simply , this sentence of Jesus sorts that out .

If you abide in My Word then you are truly My disciples , and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free .

Once there are thirdlevel churches .....the awkward ,Romans 6 and 7 process can be midwifed .

It's fantastic we can have Acts Jerusalem Church in our Bibles to show us it's possible , indeed it's the Spirit norm once people see ......

This is primarily what apostles pray for .....

I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened .

Once you see the independent self and you can see with a single eye so your body is filled with Light , you are your own Bethel set of earpods.

You begin to be revival going on .

The life of God precedes Ephesians and Romans .

That's just like the Watchman Nee and Norman Grubb descriptions of what always is .

King David has so many parallels because , though not yet inside the New Covenant , he is seeking hard after God in his heart , and finding these eternal places inside the IAm God outside all time .

Isaiah and Ezekiel and so many others are doing the same .

Enoch is actually wassing not , so amazing was what he got hold of .

We know there are awkward bits in the importation of Christ into our souls because Jesus tells us parables .

Because of our Fall lock- in to us being soul centric and believing we are soul empowered beings like Richard Dawkins , the initial Word of God is only heard as words in our left brain . It hasn't reached the soil of our heart and spirit yet , which is like seed falling on the road way . The very next bird flying on on the BBC can pick up the seed and eat it up and that's more or less it .

But the next really really hard time , even more than the persecutions , are the bitter weeds and traumas of our twisted inner seeing . Some of it is ours , some goes back 6000 years , culturally hard wired into us .

Our current churches aren't churches in the ecclesia meaning . Only in the solo ministry teaching synagogue sense with a warm up band .

True ecclesia isn't just book teaching , it's the pillar and ground of truth of a brand new community off the Genesis 3 independent self platform .

We have exoerienced churches with some measure of DIVERSE ONE in 1 Corinthians 12 but it's true to say we never reach DIVERSE TWO because we have a king .....a pastor .....when really 1 John 1 shows a set of DIVERSE MINISTRIES , born out by Revelation 12.1 a Crown of 12stars breadth .

Otherwise you get stuck in the pastoral or the helps ministry or the prophetic or obscure fine points about teachings .

But DIVERSE MINISTRIES brings us into entanglement and that's what Life is ...everything coming at us from all angles .

Then we are built up in faith and expectation to reach about Day 3 of a conference which is the THIRD DIVERSE .....the Holy Spirit sovereignly doing His operations .

We lived many of those in a protracted way in Bible House . One of the most complex lasted 2 years or so and involved turning a paralysed 28 year old into a normal married wife in Barcelona though herself Geordie Newcastle . But it was a whole work of Sovereign revelation to her , and Body members doing steps of raw obedience .

In a meeting it's different manifestations of the Holy Spirits visitation .

Here's two truths ........as Norman Grubb taught , Galatians 2.20, Romans 12.1 , Colossians 3 3 living meand you stay in revival .

The Holy Spirit sticks around the living Christ in us .

Otherwise we are spending our whole lives still in Genesis 3 but rubbing our Aladdins Lamp to get the genie .

The Living Christ doesn't have a pastor .

All are ours .

And that right there is the Song of Solomon 5 issue .

We don't appear to submit . We submit to Word coming from elders plural , which is proper ecclesia , but no , we are not part of a pyramid .

We are in something called roof with holes Tabernacles . Some bits intersect with our current churches ......but it's a bit like the 60s again .....the train is still arriving on Platform 9 3/4.

The other truth comes through R Edward Miller , and I don't see them as mutually exclusive but both ...and ....continual revival and this truth ........

The Holy Spirit works in Feast Cycles .....not earthly Jewish cycles .....well He may do as well .....but in the Spirit He takes us through His own seasons of Passover Pentecost and Tabernacles .

Or petsambulations around Nehemiah's 12 Jerusalem Gates which have massive meaning to be unearthed .

By the time we reach Gate 9 the Eastern Gate , Aldi the number of months of childbirth .

By the time we reach Feast of outpouring of water and Feast of Ingathering in the Tabernacles week , that's Sovereign Revival .....always bigger than we can imagine .

God says in Isaiah .....behold I do a new thing will you now perceive it ?

In the 70s when the prophets are citing this verse , we all sat on our laurels and thought " ofcourse ofcourse it's baptism in the Spirit , we got this ".

But no .....God meant what He said .

This really is platform 9 3/4 stuff .

It's thirdlevel church .

It's the treasure in the field of mud .

It's also mystical with all these believers being caught up in the Spirit in the more recent moves .

It's both acacia box Mercy Seat Norman Grubb and Khavod Charlie Shamp or Kathie Walters or put in any names you know .

I spent from 1972 to 1988 in worship situations .

Either leading like Amersham , West Germany , and Exeter and co leading in Emsworth .

Then I did my Song of Solomon 5, and got locked into the freefall of faith and Galatians 2.20.

People smell me .....and they may be smelling residue .....but quite often they are smelling a complete departure from the secondlevel , which occurred very physically in Emsworth .

While Moses raising the snake , and Gideon's Ephod and maybe Rachel's tomb were good at the time , they became idols .

While Israel had to go through the wilderness they were never meant to stay there . It became their idol and they died inside it .

The Pentecostal and Charismatic womb produced the Feast Of Tabernacles baby .

The Word of God was never Book of Ezra on its own , but it moved to Book of Nehemiah .

The Word of God is always Light on a Hill , City on a Hill .

The Word of God never remained in prayer meetings inside John Milton's cottage nor William Penn's cottage in Chalfont St Giles but as Bill Bryson wrote , it became Pennsylvania and the Great American Experiment .

The Dragon is always poised to pounce on the next Manchild .

If he's nolonger poised ....that means he has already eaten your network .

There was a 400 year lull before Jesus .

There's been a longer than 50 year cycle in revival .

Behold I do a new thing can you now perceive it????