Monday, 5 November 2012

And they met round each other's houses by Chris Welch


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Picture: People just "happening"
So, how's church for you? I wanted to share a bit how church, or fellowship or gathering together was for us at the time of the Jesus Movement. This was around my conversion in 1972. You've got to understand the context. Yes, actually, I had in fact joined a mainline Baptist church that had the riproaring Baptism in the Spirit tearing through its members. So, no, I never ever was aligned with the Baptist denomination, what I was aligned with was the experience of the Holy Spirit making Jesus suddenly more real than ever before to a whole mammouth age range from our school revival of mainly 13 to 14 year olds, but also including our head boy and some sixth formers, right through to seventy and eighty year olds in the church.Mostly though it was us teenagers with a ravaging hunger for Jesus. Yes, we had meetings, don't get me wrong. But much more than that we were around each other's houses. Every week we were discovering new things about how this New Life worked, and about what we could now do.To give you an idea, we'd pray for people to come to know the Lord and by the next week the Lord would answer.We learned that we could prophesy. We learned that we could suddenly have great revelations from the Bible. Whole passages would light up to us.We discovered we could pray for each other's needs. We discovered that if one had a need we could cobble up some financial or practical answer.We discovered if someone was really down, we actually had the power and impartation in the Holy Spirit to lift them up. Or may be on some occasions cast out a generational spirit dogging someone their whole life.Jesus was real.He was telling us stuff daily that we couldn't bear not to share with the others as soon as we'd see each other again.We'd go round the houses of people who would have us. Largely, Olive Dover, and later Ron and Pam Knight. But as the Knights had everyone, we'd meet up as I say with 70 and 80 year olds.Think about it!!! Much earlier than this, if you were baptised in the Holy Spirit you identified with one group, and their teachings...the Pentecostals...Elim or Assemblies of God.  From the Jesus people onwards, the Holy Spirit was flooding all denominations, so for our generation onward we nolonger identified with a denomination. This was a first. For us it was, do you know Christ in the Power of His Holy Spirit?  Right, let's share and learn from each other.Do you understand what a dynamic Wild West feel it was? The things we were discovering literally became the foundations for all the current churches which you see all over the world. It's just that we still had daily spontaneous fellowship with the Living Lord. We hadn't plateaued out back into "control".We lived from our hearts. The spontaneous life of God. This was when most of the songs were written...or "came" in meetings which were continually sung until the "grunge" period of Martin Smith and Matt Redman.We are part of Havant Church. If Christine and I turned up at all but a few houses  just to find out what Jesus had been speaking lately to them they would consider that weird. Now, we have to have special gatherings like area meetings. The very phrase area meeting has a pall of death over it.People don't turn up at other people's houses because they love them.Because they want to hear what Jesus has been saying to each other. To gossip Jesus.They only meet together because "leadership" has decided that we are going to do such and such a meeting.I don't know whether Christine and I have ever verbalised this as a pact or something...but we were both involved in very similar setups in completely different parts of Britain. We just don't do  "Table Talks", "House fellowship meetings", "Area Meetings". We live with spontaneous life dating back to a spontaneous inundation in 1972. If you don't do real. If you've got nothing to share other than all the ways you are crashing against the Proverbs 1 wall, because you just haven't been attentive to God's real heart to keep you alive and moving on in Him...no...I'm not sure i am willing to be your sounding board for hours about  your uncle's nephew's dog having ingrowing testicles, and how one of your nostrils is bigger than the other, and how well you are doing climbing Rothschild's  achievement ladder....NO I got saved from all that when I met Jesus.Before I was saved, I was stranded in middle class Britain, condemned forever to a life of middleclassness, middleclass achievements or not, middleclass diseases, middleclass attitudes and goals and opinions.....why in heaven's name would I want to spend an hour with you, if all you have to offer is the thing I've been saved from?   Now if you are hungry for something else. If you have real problems. If you want God to get involved, that's different.About 30 years ago the gear shift changed in the Kingdom. Most haven't paid the slightest notice and have the most boring Christian meetings you can imagine, which combine middleclassness with a tiny bit of God revelation.30 years ago God set in motion a gearchange to start moving His corporate Body from out of the 2nd level, or the pentecostal charismatic level, into a much more full-orbed teaching which is the MATURE CHURCH. This is all by revelation. As Jesus said "If a man's will is to do God's will, He shall know the teaching whether it be from God....."If your heart is to do God's will you are caught up in His heartbeat. You are excited. You know that Psalm 19 is right. Every day the Lord DOES pour forth speech. Every day He adds layer and layer of wisdom and understanding so that we can build from where we are at...into where He is taking us.THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why Elaine Waterfield has to wait for a meeting to take place at our house in order to visit us. She might not understand all that I am saying, but it doesn't matter because Jesus is alive in her heart and telling her different stuff each day. So if Elaine comes over to visit me and Christine...IT IS A MEETING. We are drinking Jesus from each other.SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY...if you can't go round each other's houses and have genuine Jesus heart to hearts....you can forget your church. Your church is in a morgue.
It needs resuscitation...or reserrection.
It needs ZOE life. The Life and Resurrection that Jesus is.I see no possible reason why I as a former part of a Jesus Movement have to compromise into some substandard church movement just to please you so you can plug up your lack of connection with Christ and His spontaneity with some alien life form called "Table Talk" or an "Area Meeting"...but if you want to get real...come round to my house straight away and we'll have some Jesus together.
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Sunday, 4 November 2012

An Apostle is...

An apostle is...
Someone who has been slowed down
To God speed.

An almond stick stripped 
of all its unnecessary branches
so it can easily move into any situation and
Command the Word of the Lord.

 A lightning conductor for God.

An apostle is....

Someone who speaks into being the House of the Lord
And what is the House of the Lord
But God come in the flesh
Tabernacling with man?

Jesus said of Peter
Upon this Rock
What Rock?
Peter was the first human being to catch and declare that here was God Himself come in the flesh.

The spirit of antichrist is described thus
1John 2:22-24
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.

The apostolic Word is this:
Believe that Jesus is God in the flesh come from the Father, and you will have BOTH the SON and the Father dwelling in you and through you.
St Peter spent 3 and half years in Jesus' Light having various sins of action and attitude exposed. But it wasn't until his 3 denials that he finally saw SIN,
the root cause of all his sins, 
the independent self delusion. 
Facing this head on, on Galilee's shoreline, he became apostolic material. So it is today.

Peter is like us....
  "We are like that child kicking ,screaming,punching it's parent while the parent holds it fast in a loving grip, and gradually the convulsive sobs subside into the realisation that whatever we do,whatever we find out about who we are....this is all part of that WAY to the TRUTH to the LIFE that Jesus was on about. That God loves us unconditionally. The issue then is this? Will we let those figleaves that we think hide our nakedness be removed, in order to be clothed properly and be found again in our right mind?"
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Friday, 2 November 2012

N1 :Overcoming the Accuser by Jessie Penn-Lewis


With thanks to Annalize Mouton for posting this extract. Last week I felt it would be good to run a series of excellent and relevant extracts from well-known forerunners. I was going to call this series Great Posts from Great Christians, but then I thought of Watchman Nee's :Normal Christian Life , so I thought I would call it Extracts from Normal Christians or for brevity the N series. This then, triggered quite independently by Annalize,  is N1.  IT IS NORMAL for saints to reach the third level of growth,(1 John 2:12) just as it is normal for children to reach adulthood via teenage.

In Revelation 12:9-11 we read, “…that old serpent, called the devil and Satan…and they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony: and they loved not th
Jessie Penn - Lewis
eir lives unto the death.”

Here we have the personal, experimental way of victory over Satan. “They overcame him” – a person. The members of the Church on earth (not the nominal church that plays “whist drives,” nor the professing church with ninety-nine parts of it belonging to the world – but the spiritual members of Christ’s Body) are seen in a personal, individual fight.

Do you recognize Satan as a person? I do not mean in the abstract. If a man came and wrestled with you, and attacked you, would you speak to him or to “it?” If he said, “I will pull you down,” you would speak to him, and say, “No, you will not.”

They overcame “him” – a person. You may believe in the abstract that Satan is a person. You believe Christ is a Person, too often in the abstract, miles away, very dim to you. But what Satan fights so much is the being recognized and spoken to directly.

This is quite different to believing in a general sort of a way, and saying, “Yes, I know it is Satan hindering, or attacking.” This conflict with the erect dragon is a direct recognition that he stands in your path ready to devour you. And in verse 11 you are shown the way of victory. It is not in your experience, nor your growth nor your “advanced stage” of the spiritual life, nor in your personal strength; nor in your grasping and understanding what it means to be united to Christ in the heavenly places.

“They overcame him BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.” But you do not overcome the dragon if you do not recognize him. You recognize Christ as the Conqueror, and as your Saviour; but you must also recognize His enemy. Are you afraid to speak to Satan? There is a block in your path. It may be like an invisible wall and you do not know what to do with it. No praying seems to touch it, nothing moves it until at last you break through, and say, “Satan, I know it is you; in the name of Jesus, get thee hence.”

The very saying the words breaks the wall. You say to the Adversary, “I know it is you in my path, but you are conquered by Jesus Christ. I belong to Christ, and I overcome you by the Blood of the Lamb. You must go, because you were conquered by the Lord at Calvary.”

Then again, “BY THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY.” The word of testimony is not something you whisper so that nobody can hear, nor is it only an “attitude.” You say you are “standing in the attitude of victory.” The “word of your testimony” means speaking out loud, and saying something that is a testimony.

Notice, too, that IT IS A TESTIMONY DIRECTLY TO SATAN. It is not a testimony to the Church, or in the class meeting. It does not say, “They overcame him by

giving their testimony to the class meeting,” nor “by giving testimony in the Mission Hall.” This testimony has to do primarily and directly with Satan. “Him!” It is speaking to him. The whole verse has to do with “him,” not with a testimony meeting. “They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb,” and “they overcame him, by the word of their testimony.”

It does not say “words.” It can be very short. It is a testimony directly given to Satan. Now what do you testify to Satan when he attacks you? I am persuaded we have to learn more of this direct dealing with the enemy. It is what we may call “refusing.” It is saying the word to him, “I refuse to yield to you, because I belong to the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Giving Things Their Right Names

A great factor in victory over the powers of darkness is to “name” things, and call them by their right names. For instance, naming Satan, and saying, “Yes, I know that is Satan standing in my path” and “I resist you, Satan, in the Name of Jesus.” What else are you to testify? You tell other people, and say, “I testify to the victory of Calvary,” but do you testify directly to the enemy himself?

When the pressure of conflict comes upon you, let the words fly to your lips, and you will find it victory. Testify to the enemy, and say, “Satan, you are conquered, Jesus Christ conquered you and I am Christ’s.” It is the “word of your testimony.”

Notice again in regard to this word of testimony that the special characteristic work of the red dragon standing in the path of the Church is that of an ACCUSER – “The ACCUSER of our brethren is cast out.” His great attempt to devour you is by accusing you. He pours on you, morning, noon, and night, a stream of accusation: “You are wrong, you are out of God’s will,” etc.

Have you not been conscious of this stream of persistent accusation which you thought was all from yourself? Not having recognized the source of it, it has turned you in upon yourself until friends have called you morbid, hypersensitive, or nervous, or “giving way,” while others again say it is your make of character.

Is not your self-condemnation one of the great hindrances in your life against a bold, fearless service? You can not do anything happily, because of this stream of “self-accusation,” as you call it. You cannot “speak,” you have nothing to say. You do not know how to pray, you are this, and that and the other. You are thus turned in upon yourself, and round and round yourself you go, thinking it is yourself all the while.

It crushes you, takes the smile from your face, for you are always feeling that you are not what you ought to be. You never reach your ideals. If you could only be like Miss So-and-So, you might be happy. You have been seeking the blessing she has for years, but everybody can get it but you. And thus you go along with a shadow on your face, a weight on your spirit, and always a mocking word whispered to you, “Ah! You are always wrong. You cannot do anything right!”

Feeble In God’s Service

There are thousands of God’s children who are feeble in God’s service because of this apparent self-depreciation and self-centeredness. Some go to their knees to seek the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and something to lift them out of, what they call, this low-plane life. They think if they can only get some mighty floodtide of blessing, it would take this shadow off them!

And all the time, it is a stream from the dragon as the accuser, pouring through your ears to your mind and as pictures to your mental vision, a flood of accusations about yourself, which, if you only recognized that they came from him, you would thrust away.

Satan carries out this work by means of his wicked spirits, and their speaking to you is like a ceaseless running comment upon your actions all the time. Do you do anything without a question mark about it? That exactly describes the speaking of evil spirits – ceaseless whisperings, morning, noon and night. Now reason it out for yourself – it is not you thinking, because there is not action of our brain in the matter. You do not really “think” those things. This ceaseless strain of comment is forced on you, in spite of yourself, although you do not want this commentary going on all the time.

That apparently inward, ceaseless “buzz” of something making comments upon you, and your actions all the day, is directly from evil spirits of Satan. The moment you recognize it, and name it, you are on the first step to deliverance.

You say, “I thought it was myself, but I never reasoned it out. Now I recognize the accusing enemy. I will take no more lies from lying spirits.”

They have been whispering in your ears simply to keep you from being happy and praising God. They want to stop you having a testimony to give, stop you praying, yea, stop you doing any service for God. The lies of the accuser and his emissaries poured in morning, noon and night, can be made to cease through the Blood of the Lamb, for “they overcame him by the Blood.”

Nagging Accusations

I am not now speaking about conscience. There is a distinction between the deep inward conviction of the Holy Spirit in your conscience, saying, “You know you are wrong” and the “nagging whisperings of the enemy.”

Then these wicked, accusing spirits accuse others to you, and comments about others are going on continually in your mind. They do not come from your heart, nor from your will. Who but these same evil spirits make ceaseless comments to you upon everybody you meet? And you take them in and listen to their whispers.

It was neither you, nor the Holy Spirit who suggested to you that unkind thought about your friend. Then where did the whisper come from? Wicked spirits. Ah, they are doing this wicked work in the Church and paralyzing God’s children with persistent accusations about themselves, and doing the same thing about their fellow workers in the Mission, and God’s people everywhere.

Now what are you to do? First, recognize him, that is, Satan working through his evil spirits. Secondly, on the ground of the Blood of the Lamb you say to the accuser, “You are conquered.” Thirdly, you give the “word of your testimony,” and testify to the Victory of Christ, and say to the conquered enemy, “I choose to refuse your lies about myself, or others.”

The Bible calls a lie a lie, and you cannot soften the word when you speak of what evil spirits do. They are liars. Satan is a liar. Christ said that Satan was “a liar from the beginning,” and that he is the “father of lies.” Every lie he whispers produces a thousand-fold more.

When these things are pouring in on you, do not try to go on with your work, and shake them off, for they will not go. They are there, and you must deal with them. Just examine them one moment and see whether they really come from your will, and if they do not, give the word of testimony and say, “I refuse, in the name of Jesus Christ, all the lies from lying spirits about myself, my fellow workers, and the Church.” And declare too, “I close my ears to their speaking and refuse it.”

These are some of the things that explain why the Church is so feeble, and why God’s children are so powerless. The Holy Spirit is in the spirits of those who have received Him, but they are powerless because they do not know the enemy, do not recognize him, and do not refuse him, and do not speak to him and do not say, “Go, in the name of Jesus!”

What are you to do? When you are in this conflict, you cannot have time always to get away to your knees, and when you do get to your knees, these accusing spirits do not stop their work, but pour into your mind while you kneel to pray. You may cry to the Lord and say, “O Lord, stop them,” but they do not always stop. Christ has given you the weapon to use against them. Just say, “Lord Jesus, I stand with You against the powers of darkness,” and then say to the enemy, “Go, in the name of Jesus.” “Resist the devil and he will flee from you” (James 4:7).

“They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb.” It does not say here that JESUS overcame him, but the believer overcomes on the ground of the Blood. It is YOU overcoming. Christ has overcome for you on the Cross, but you have now yourself to overcome on the ground of the Blood, and use His weapon. YOU are to overcome, and the Risen Lord says, “To him that overcometh, will I grant to sit with Me in My throne.”

It means no self-indulgence, no grasping of anything for yourself. It means that it will take the whole force of the divine life in you to stand and to overcome. In this chapter in Revelation it is not a warfare with sin, but a warfare with Satan.

“They overcame him by standing in the conflict even though it means death. Warfare with sin precedes warfare with Satan. If you are covering up any secret sin, that must be dealt with first because that is enough to weaken any warfare with Satan.

It is a war between saints and Satan. And the ground upon which they fought and conquered was the ground of Calvary – using what Christ did there. Therefore, speak directly to the dragon in your path and say, “You are conquered!” But do it in the Spirit of Jesus, and in dependence upon the Lord Jesus, resting upon the victory of His name and of His blood. Say to the accuser, “I stand with Christ against you,” and then declare your testimony, “I choose to be Christ’s. I choose to declare in Jesus’ name it shall be victory!”
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