- Mark Paulson and 108 others like this.
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- Michael Gibney The funny thing is these people who are looking for an excuse to live haphazardly would have found something...and the people who want to blame it on grace preaching would have found another doctrine or reason to pounce on. Human nature man... Whatever.... I'd rather preach grace and have someone abuse it than never to preach it at all. ...jerks.
- Jeff Turner Also, the same folks who live "loosely" after embracing grace would have just simply all out rejected the "law" gospel. So really, what is the difference? There is none. It's just about the person, and the condition of their heart in that moment. Besides, who's to say that someone getting drunk because they say they're under grace is any worse than someone being prideful and arrogant because of their morality?
- Arthur Robins my main problem i have with hypergrace is that whenever i mention that some of GOD'S ''Laws__(instructions for living) contain His WISDOM, you get called all kinds of names, all of them WRONG. IF YOU CANT SEE GODS LOVE IN HIS WISDOM, THEN YOUR doctrin...See More
- Michelle Collins So agree!!!! I lived that hell myself and found that it was easier to give in to the sin as it didn't seem that I could get around it. There will be people who abuse grace but I belive from my own personal experience that many more will just sin in the...See More
- Fidel Whosoever Arce It's ok cuz after you except God's Grace you tend to be angry at the church, shortly after they drink the wine and get in the bliss and Jesus will reveal Himself and then. It's all good and they will mature instantly
- Valerie Charron "who's to say that someone getting drunk because they say they're under grace is any worse than someone being prideful and arrogant because of their morality?" Well said.
- Jeff Turner Arthur Robins, There are some extremists who jump to big conclusions in ANY movement in church history. Luther axed James' epistle from the New Testament among many other things. Yet, we are indebted to him for what he brought to the Church. There w...See More
- Jeff Turner Fidel Whosoever Arce, I hear you, bro. There is a period that MANY go through of anger and bitterness. However, when they go beyond grace, and embrace the Father's love for the whole body, there is healing, and many of the overreactions go away on their own.
- Michael Gibney The funny thing is all these objections to Grace are confronted in Romans. These are things that have always happened in the church and will till Jesus comes. We do not guide our doctrines on the performance or abuse of man but on the word of God.
- Jeff Turner I think the criticism is, in some ways healthy, and needed in order for there to be some adjustments. On the same hand, it's proof that the Gospel is being preached correctly.
- Fidel Whosoever Arce Paul preached Grace and was criticized and persecuted. We preach Grace now. How have things changed? Lol
- Jeff Turner Fidel Whosoever Arce, It hasn't, and it won't. And for the most part I could care less. I'd like to give those who "criticize" a big hug, and go see a movie with them. I'm only addressing this since it's making waves in national Christian news.
- Carla Woods Many have abused freedoms in the past, but that does not negate the freedom. Many that reject the New Covenant teachings of grace live in America where the freedoms that America provides are abused every day (burning of the American flag, using their '...See More
- Stefan Korth God had waited until Moses til he introduced himself to mankind through the law he gave. Until then every person was legally sinless, as besides the heritage of Adam, they could not break any law of god as there was only the one, not to eat from that t...See More
- Fidel Whosoever Arce @stephan Legally sinles NO sin was always there! The Jews did a ritual of an animal sacrifice once a year and God only "COVERED" the or sin
- Dana Elizabeth Fripp The freedom to know you are fully loved, fully redeemed, and now you can go and sin no more. HORRORS! Dun-dun-duuuuuun! Thanks, Jeff Turner. Good stuff.
- Fidel Whosoever Arce Just like when Adam realized he was naked, God killed animals to make clothes for him and his wife... Without the shedding of blood there was no remission of din
- Marco Lochem Alvara Shalom...I believe in Adonias grace that allows us to come before him for the forgiveness of our sins..we are made complete to his righteousness because of it..but what must be understood is just cause we live under his grace does not mean it gives us ...See More
- Josh Jordan I think that once someone comes out from the bondage of living under legalistic pressure, they can have things in there lives that come to the surface that most likley were already hidden behind closed doors and might not be the best choices for them, ...See More
- David Collins Thanks Jeff, I'm grateful for your gracious rebuttals of these denouncements. It's simply church history repeating itself - God is breathing fresh life into the gospel of grace and proponents of past moves of God are resisting. I've been in ministry over 40 years and have seen it all before. Grace and peace to your family and church from New Zealand.
- Marcia Struble Totally agree. 99% of grace preachers/people are not saying or preaching what 99% of critics say they are.
I started out being "offended" but realized it wasn't the message that was offensive but the way I perceived the delivery. The message, the Good ...See More - Christina Augustyniak A video! Wonderful! ... Anyone who has been under the law and finally gets set free can relate to all you have said above. I'm sharing this in hopes the Light will shine and others will get set free!
- Jeff Turner This video is about two years old - but I address some of the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1GLkQ39EE
- Cara Harris Love your work jeff. I have just been on a four day missions trip with a "holyness/law" preacher. It was amazing to see how law and grace can be two ways of bringing the same massage. That is: FREEDOM FROM SIN and PEACE WITH GOD!!
It is also 100% clea...See More - Margie Addison Tubbs What part of life more abundantly are the horrors you just descirbed? None. I was just like you. I searched my heart night and day, lest there be some sin that I didn't know about that would keep me out of heaven. I didn't allow myself to enjoy anythin...See More
- Natalie Haskell I REALLY love this. I seriously do not get how people live their entire lives this way! Thank you so much for speaking up about this. I know it's not easy. But it's such a relief to hear someone admit that they felt this way too. Being caught up in the fire of religion were the worst years of my life when it came to anxiety and panic attacks.
- Marco Lochem Alvara Jeff God bless u brother the video clip u shared sums it up...I wish more folks would watch ...
Monday 4 March 2013
Jeff Turner Speaks on Hyper Grace Horror Stories
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