Monday, 20 October 2025

Jesus Modelling and teaching life from above




There's Matthew doctrine , Mark doctrine , Luke doctrine and John doctrine .

They each do conferences .

They each do churches up high streets .

This post was triggered by a Romans 7 son

g written by a Romans 3 to 5 saint .

Anybody fascinated by studying things , look into the connection between action - based Marks , who Im convinced have one skin less than the other three quartiles , but it means they find the whole Genesis 3 thing harder to get . And then when you look at thrice or four times dead Dave Lage and some of the apostles like Peter , how much do you need to get hold of if you've had a touch to the depths of your being by the Lord ?


So the posts these last two days have been the recognition that there is a cherub face quartile .

Ezekiel 1 has man,lion, ox , eagle 

Ezekiel 10 cherub, man , lion , eagle 

Revelation 4 actually describes each as a whole creature lion , calf , man , eagle , and surely that's most like the gospel writer sequence Matthew Mark Luke John ,  and the Four Woods sequence . Leviticus 23

Comely front of house tree

Productive fruitful trees 

Old sturdy tree 

Willow tree .


Coming from where St Paul was , which was straight out of Judaism , he now had a new life in Christ , but he had personally overseen the death of a beautiful saint,  so even once converted he was an outcast , once for being a Jew and meeting the living heavenly Christ and a second time being shunned by converted Jews for what he had done .


So here was Jesus living Paul's new life which he was having to learn , and he went into Arabia where I guess he learned tent making .


Paul calls it dying to the Law , but as Norman Grubb goes deeper,  and in fact as Jesus modelled in only doing what He saw the Father doing , and as we are presented with two or three classes ofc things that train us .....going into our inner room , learning 1 Corinthians 12, and going the second mile in situations....

We are learning Jesus in us as us in our form .


It's not " I don't have to bother...." as regards Law , it's the Law of the Spirit of life . Or as Nancy Gilmore put it , ' being on location for God '.

That's an alternative for Romans 12.1.


And here is what it meant for Jesus in John 4.

Hanging around at a well with a woman , and you're meant to be a rabbi .

That woman was Samaritan .

That woman was onto her 5th man .

And He'd let the disciples go off and do the donkey work with the shopping .


There's nothing about that that looked good .

It seemed like a total Law breaker at every level .

But Jesus had an extraordinary gift of utterance. 

How many people could you share those same things with today , 2000 years later? These are Spirit and life things .

The woman even brought out her entire village to meet Jesus .


What I'm trying to say is it's not just purely ' dying t Law ' is it....it's learning your new Creation person from above and how it works for Matthew Mark Luke and Johns . ( read Surrounded by Idiots ).


Ephesians 4 says the Body is joined by that which each supplies when it is working properly .


In the charismatic movement we have solo pastors regaling congregations with Romans 3 t 5 tales....which though necessary,  because we have to unhinge from Law and performance living .....nevertheless,  and Im speaking about a recent church situation,  this isn't yet ' working properly '.


Working properly is getting right off Genesis 3 and learning Jesus in us as us . It's spiky to listen to because it addresses the Genesis 3 stuff in other people. 


Yet this is where God's power is .

This is the circumcision of the heart of Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 36.


Its interesting watching Jesus in real time in the gospels.  He'd only been baptised in the Spirit a few weeks . So He went from the John 4 incident , straight into John 5 and the Bethesda pool raising of the lame man . Because the guy was carrying his pallet that was work on the Sabbath . Then the religious people were getting angry and to make things worse Jesus is saying the stuff He's been learning in ministering.  " I must do what I see my Father doing " .

This led into John 6, praying up the mountain , walking on water ,then beginning to teach about this new Bread ....which is kind of like His Matthew 6.22 teaching  ....if your eye be single your body shall be filled with Light .

By John 7 Jesus was grasping that He was the Feast of Tabernacles ....His ministry was transparent and on show as is the Feast of Tabernacles .

Like Feast of Thanksgiving which is a Tabernacles inspired event,  as good as they are now , everything is hampered by the amount people really know Jesus , and can be fully ' them ' in this new off Genesis 3 lifestyle. 

So John 7 was when Jesus kicked off the true version , which will be manifest more and more by ecclesia , not just on Sunday meetings but as City on a Hill .

Various groups have tried this over centuries. 

Amish . Hutterites . Bruederhof communities. 

Ecclesia is both an accelerator , and a revealer.

And its a Catch 22 dependent on the amount we want revealed and the amount we want Jesus to come forth in us . 

For example , the first Church in Jerusalem was there for all to join . With 12  1 John 2 third stage of growth leaders it really was held in high honour by pretty much all , but the Bible says people were afraid to join because they didn't want their dark deeds to be revealed. 


But that is the sequence of Light  here on earth.

Passover Pentecost Tabernacles .

These are states in the Spirit .

Jews got so far .

Christians have got so far .

Its just leaving Genesis 3....not just in our spirit beings in meetings , but all the remaining ties in our souls .

It's praying through the inner parts of the Lords Prayer .

These are all the connections keeping principalities and powers attached to the earth. 

Each church has a window to build a completed Tower . Some , like Jerusalem church were so good they were persecuted out of Jerusalem .


The Body is joined by that which each supplies when it is working properly..

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