So what do I think about July 4th ?

 

Getting on with the UK routine .....we have no independence celebration here as Bill Bryson describes so eloquently about Chalfont St Giles in Notes from a Small Island .

So I just put up the Maria Woodworth Etter and Kathryn Kuhlman post anyway .

But the Holy Spirit has really underlined this post to me as I put on a July 4th statement on Facebook that Kathie Walters posted yesterday ( its the 5th ).

Look the more I am learning the more irrelevant July 4th is . I cant take seriously a Jefferson who visits Hell Fire Caves West Wycombe on his way to meet Robespierre in Paris . Nor Washington painted in apotheosis or whatever on the ceiling .

But here's the doozy that is more full fledged and less timid .

I have been acknowledging David and Kathie Walters role in the form of the third diverse in 1 Corinthians . But you know as I did a post this weekend I felt this really emphasised by the Holy Spirit .....this is what America and some American ladies have done .

In total church ignorance nobody bothers reading the Bible .

Paul is writing as plainly as he can in 1 Corinthians 12. He is saying there's three whole categories the Holy Spirit takes church ...proper ecclesia through .

Gifts and contributions 

Heftier stuff through ministries plural as He anoints 

Then the ' new ' ( considering they were largely lost for 1900 years ) Holy Spirit operations realm .....and no small pushing the envelope and not accepting no for an answer was 

Maria Woodworth Etter 

Kathryn Kuhlman 

Is it Jill Lee 

Ruth Heflin 

and Kathie here .

I think some of the Quakers were known for both types of quaking ...the repentance fear of God then the shaking as the body is overpowered with visions and the power of heaven .

Carol Arnott and Heidi also feature in this .

This is important about America . This is why you left the European strictures and yes God has used men .....but the Holy Spirit is stressing womens roles in pushing this last ' gathering door ' open .

Diverse gifts ....one Author 

Diverse ministries sharing and imparting 

Then the Direct operations of the Spirit manifesting individually but also as waves .

So no ....Neil Diamond getting local kids to walk around his home in the nude 

Or Ronald Reagan dumbing down American education as Charlotte Isserbyte reports 

Or Bob Hope and Kissinger buying Cathy O Brien or Susan Ford ( their tales are similar )as a manipulable sex slave , then using her as a human computer transferring messages to drug businessmen in South America to open up druglanes into America . Yes Ronald ! And top Nazi guys ....Klaus Barbi's new role. Mengele now called Dr Green.

All while in the charismatic middling dreamworld of the States .

With all else that God has done in the States the opening up of this third well of Gods activities in gatherings and no small part using women .

When men quote should women be involved in ministry .....this is hilarious . Since men don't even know about midwifing these three stages in ministry and in particular bottlenecking the second stage ....which is plural ....with their own devil name up in lights ..

I think the more pertinent question after 250 years search for freedom , is " Should men be allowed in Holy Spirit church yet ?"