What is a pastor in a house that builds itself?

EH Broadbent in his book The Pilgrim Church 1933 indicates that this question has long been faced and addressed as early as moves around 800 AD onwards. Somehow since Frank Viola's book The Pagan Church with George Barna we have begun again questioning what a church is and how it functions. Jack Fortenberry whose book Corinthian Elders is available to download on the net , restates what Quakers have long known , and I think the Brethren really knew if they were honest.
God has winked at a lot, but today's world demands the glory of the latter house, a true City on a Hill.
This post is not new. St Paul wrote about these very things, but for 2000 years we have ignored them and what you see currently in the earth is the result.
Teaching on why pastors do not rule over  churches 

Jesus Christ is Head over His house.


He appoints in the Holy Spirit gifts to operate in His house
The ones anointed to speak Word in His house, to build His house are
first apostles, then prophets, then pastors , teachers and evangelists.
Nowhere in the New Testament does it talk about a priest, vicar, or solo pastor being head over his house.
There are pastors, there are teachers, there are apostles , prophets and evangelists.
These are some of the effects of disobeying the Lord Jesus Christ

1. If a Pastor is over a church

it creates a false model. While a natural family has a father and this is a pattern of the heavenly Father, the Church is not a human institution , but a supernatural one with Jesus Christ as the Head. The family of God learn the Kingdom by there being no Head but Jesus.

Jesus Himself modelled this. I do only what I see the Father doing. While my Father is working then I must work. Jesus modelled the Psalm 123 lifestyle. At the time there was only one Person on earth living this way and with the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

First in the upper room when Jesus breathed upon His disciples and they became new creations in Him……(And remember the exact thing happened before to Adam), then they were baptised in the Spirit along with all the others on the day of Pentecost.

All 11 including the new apostle stood with Peter as he opened the door to Jews and in fact everybody to the Kingdom.

All 12 went from house to house preaching teaching and breaking bread as pastors in this new Kingdom. To begin with until he was murdered, James was the administrative head of Jerusalem Church.

2.If a Pastor is over a church he may even defer to the Holy Spirit as Pentecostals and charismatics have done, but although this looks generous, it is not given to a pastor to head a church nor to defer. It’s not His Kingdom and Jesus shares His headship with nobody. Again a pastor is presenting a false model.
3. If a Pastor is over a church then the final authority in any matter rests with him or an eldership or board who rule by their minds. In renewed church settings people tend to pray before Board meetings but they are missing the whole point. Paul and Barnabas weren’t called to lay the foundations of most of Asia Minor by a board meeting, the Holy Spirit set them apart in a gathering of saints meeting in the Name of Jesus when Jesus Himself was in the midst. That is the difference.
4. If a Pastor is over a church then while his strong gifting is in human care, reassurance and encouragement, which is a true gift in God’s Body, it is not given to rule a church. The Church is ruled in the Presence of the Living God, where those who have already trained their senses in righteousness are recognised already for their ability to discern the spirit of good from the spirit of evil. Something of the mantle of God’s Presence is facilitated by them but by no means exclusive to them. They are called elders only because they are recognised as such for their authority in the Holy Spirit and that they have just gone ahead some in the things of God.
5.If a Pastor is over a church while he may defer to the saints exercising their gifts, he has already robbed the primary agendas of the Holy Spirit which is that nothing occurs until the Holy Spirit is released to give gifts and contributions as He chooses, in diverse forms, as He directs. This is Church . This is how saints learn psalm 123 living, and to intercept this is to slow down saints ability to walk properly outside of meetings, since meetings are usually the first place they are commanded to learn the new administration suitable to the summing up of the times. Ephesians 1.10
6. If a Pastor is over a church and paid by a tithe he is modelling Judaism and having a rabbi over a synagogue, which has nothing to do with the Kingdom of God since the Cross.
7.If a Pastor is over a church he is maintaining the idea of Levitical priesthood like Anglicans and Catholics and Lutherans do.
8. If a Pastor is over a church people are not receiving the male anointing of the Father. This is an anointed seed that comes under the supernatural gifting of the Spirit, and rests heavily upon evangelists to see people dynamited out of Genesis 3 into a definite receiving of Jesus Christ into their person. It rests heavily upon prophets to see the foundations of a community laid bare and lay a foundation of Christ in its place in a specific Christ Word over a locality, that may initially be difficult to understand but shines a beacon for the way ahead, and later people understand more of what that Word meant.
The male anointing upon an apostle establishes people in the Romans teachings, taking a congregation step by step round the Holy Spirit versions of the Jewish Feasts and the Gates of Jerusalem. Pastors and teachers under the male anointing , and divorced from a secular idea of rule and office, are now free to deliver their giftings under a male anointing to build up the saints in their faith and their behaviours, from within out, as the new Covenant grace gospel works.
9. If a Pastor is over a church the church doesn’t grow fast enough and by the times the testings come as they must, people are not sufficiently rooted and grounded, and they become bitter as at the waters of Meribah and Massah. When we receive the Word it is sweet like honey in the mouth , but much like the labour of childbirth at the end, at the point of realisation and manifestation, things can feel exceedingly bitter. Within 15 years most Moves of God dissipate through bad relationships within and bitter persecution from without. In America apparently 70% of pastors burn out.
God never called pastors to that position and He doesn't give grace to any of them to do His own job. He is the banner of Love over us.
He is our Good shepherd.
A shepherds human role is purely like Jesus , to get learners hitched up to Psalm 123 living , then withdraw. Nolonger do I call you servants but friends if you do what I say. Then Jesus disappeared.
10. If a Pastor is over a church, unless he personally has a strong evangelists anointing like Eric Chambers of Amersham Old Baptist Church, then evangelists get shot in the foot, there’s terrific jealousy and rivalry at their success, and up until now evangelists in the church function way more than they have to outside congregations. Like the shepherd in Song of Solomon as a Jesus figure, evangelists should be free to come and go, to gather sheep and not to have to worry all the time that their male Holy Spirit anointing and impartation is not completely undermined by pastors who are not even given the right to rule over flocks anyway in the Bible.

Chance to Re Hear Possibly the Most Anointed Message of 20th Century

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Set aside time to hear this message in its entirety.
The fourth part is a MUST.
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Ex Communist Country Romanian shares why Agenda 2030 is more of the same

Pharma and Gadout versus Cancer cure

Amazingly a class action is being drawn up against the British Government for the unnecessary deaths of up to 2 million people who have been denied knowledge of the body's own super compound to shrink tumours and fight against cancer. This compound was isolated and discovered 25 years ago, yet the stranglehold of profiteers has means that my mother died and so many I know have died without even being able to access the safe form of cancer cure because it is entirely natural.

Hierarchy is being replaced by an enthroned Jesus Christ

First recorded for Friends on Facebook 25/11/2019

Vision Destiny 2015 - Mike Parsons , Barnstaple UK

This is 4 years old but may be a good jumping off point into the more recent videos.
Jim Vissers , wife and friends from Toronto passed by our home on their return from Barnstaple and St Ives last year. Jim is a friend through Daniel Yordy from the Thread a number of us were a part of on Facebook

Looming South Korean Crisis

Serious and Desperate Cry for Prayer from Harry Kim of South Korea

Dear sir. To sincere brother and sister in Jesus Christ. Good evening. sorry, My English isn't good. I am Harry kim from South Korea. God bless you. I am born again Christian. Thank you very much. Here is a prayer request. Would you pray for Dying south Korea? Your prayer can stop destroying of our country. This country is out of service. We have sinned for One lord Jehova very much. We deserve death. We are canary in the mine shaft. I hope miracle would happen in two Korea just as Jesus christ fed 5,000 people only by five bread and two fishes. South Korea and church is like stage 4 cancer patient. Very serious. In addition, Kim jung un regime have been working on communized south Korea. They are well-systematically and very evil and demonic and wise. It's very hard to resist alone. It is big disaster for us. Kim and moon crave unification and neither wants the democratic unification Prayer is powerful than Any weapon. And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21.Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. South korea president moon jae in is suspicious people. He belongs to minju party.(democratic party, actually satanic party) He is subverting democracy, freedom, south korea. He is leftist communist Chinese friendly politician who does not want to cooperate with America. At first he prosecuted former president park - gun -hye with false evidence. His cabinet(Secret of statement Lim jong seok, moon jeong in and so on) are extremely anti-USA politician. He is extreme leftist and anti - usa politician. He is spokesman of Kim jung eun. He is too close to North Korea and its leader. He is like micro xi jing ping Chinese leader. The famous pro-democrat politician wants to stop and shut down THAAD(America's missile defence system) completely. They love North Korea, They want to support North Korea evil regime despite the starving and inhumane treatment of ordinary North Korean citizens. They do not like the rich and want to destroy the Chaebol(Super rich person) or anything that resembles. but most korean are very naive. He is top spokesman of Kim jung eun. "It is only a matter of time South Korea will be a communist state" Says Former Korea Persecutor Mr.go young joo. Remember the case of USA detainee otto warmbier. North korea killed him. We can't trust north korea. Horrible country. “Nuclear weapons are their shield, their lifeline. I don’t think they’ll give those up in the future.Leader kim-jung-un is pedophilia. A North Korean defector has told of Kim Jong Un’s teen sex slaves, lavish caviar lunches and gory public executions. Despite people there are starving and dying and He orders uncle to be fed to dogs! If we united, He will persecute and kill whole christian.So would you pray for to break ungodly ties with north korea? Summit between two leader are like Germany's sudetenland meeting between Nazi's hitler and european leader during the world war 2. In the end hitler invaded czech republic. North korea will do that. They will never forsake nuke. In addition, south korea government have corrupted by spy of DPRK and letfist. They are hiding deeply as horse of trojan. And also government is going to issue censorship law. Moon jae in is rushing Korea toward reunification in wrong way. He is in the doghouse by USA President Donald Trump. We need prayer. And also I want you to know urgent situation for Korea. Communism is about to destroy temple spiritually but church isn't aware of this. By torch of prayer can awake dying church in Korea and set north Korean free and eliminate DPRK evil regime. I don't want to make korea like the case of communist nation such as China, north korea. I don't want my nation be trampled by communist and don't want let them make orphan and boat people. Thank you very much to hear this. Korea should be the nation based on the God's sure promise and unify with God's will. I wish God would eliminate two ungodly leader and set us free from threat of communist. It's time to tear our pillows and repent. To God be the glory. I want to know this urgent story and request prayer in the name of Holy Jesus Christ. Your prayer can change endangered our nation's fate. In only half a century, Europe's Christianity have been collapsed. When Korea is communized, Asian countries will have big problems. Above all, there will be obstacles in preaching the gospel. South korea is at risk. Communism has been tried for more than 100 years by hundreds of millions of people, and the results are always the same: Its fruits are death, destruction, and despair. Your prayer can save dying korea church. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. watch out south korea. Korea is more serious than Vietnam. Ardent commie is taking over the south korea. Korea and korea church got the boiling frog syndrom. To Seoul, South korea(Korea, Korea church is like prodigal child Eli's sons, Hophni and Phinehas O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! God, we ask for you to grow and protect your church in South Korea. Thanks for listening us.

Jesus The Word, The Bread,The Manna John 6

This is a pretty leftbrain rendering of some rightbrain insight from John Curtis and some Facebook stuff Id written,
It's's four years old and Id forgotten the last sentence completely which I still think is hilarious and true!!!!

I write daily on Facebook so there's tons of material over the past two years that has only been available to my friend's list, and I'm not adding to my friend list that much because the reality is  the friend list is already pretty unmanageable, let alone if I used up all my Facebook allowance.
So this leaves the conundrum , do I open a public page for anybody to view?  Or do I try to repost  here or create a fresh platform?   Really like John Edwards it's probably best to be out there with real people.  The real burden I have to share, like Jesus , almost requires some background. Jesus came to a nation that had 2000 years background.  But with the Canaanite woman, she had such extraordinary faith she kind of broke all the rules like Rahab , Ruth and Abigail in the Old Testament.

I genuinely am open to sharing with anybody, but what happens is unless people are really hungry for more than their immediate needs being met they havent got a clue what I am on about. The converse truth is, according to Maslow's heirarchy of needs, if you havent got a roof over your head nor food in your belly, what use is spiritual stuff when you are freezing and about to die from malnutrition?

The Quartile

Below is one of Franz Kafka's tales .
they are exactly midway between a Jesus parable and the detail of a short story or novel. In linear terms they are midway between a Jesus type  brevity of the line drawings in the The Good New Bible 1960s and the caricatures in Punch magazine which were often mini paintings.
Jesus always said the Kingdom is like....
He didnt say in a parable the Kingdom is.
Don't take the story below and think
Haha!!! The Emperor IS Jesus who died, because this Emperor never resurrected, which would have had to be the case if the "Message" was the gospel message.
We have just been in the Hapsburg Palaces. That is Kafka's context of Emperor and enormous palatial rooms with huge staircases where elite throngs of nobles and their partners can fill halls. Of cities where the castle is in the centre of cities surrounded by the ordure and trappings of normal life outside the palace. It is the period of revolutionary throngs cramming out cities with their gatherings and protests during the last European decades.
So NOTHING is exactly anything in Kafka. And nothing in Jesus parables is exactly anything either.

One hundred years after Kafka, what was Kafka actually doing? Don't know. But this is somewhere in the mix:

There are four personalities that write the gospel.
If Matthew is all out Kingdom, legal rights,geneologies, about the announcement of Kingdom and WILL in the sense of administrative will
If Mark is all about action, and written by a serving pragmatic sort who likes to get things done, a people person and WILL in the sense of BULLOCK like determination to see something through
If Luke is about sweating out the details, and planning, and the mind, and what actually happened in the nerdy sort of attention to detail thing like a train spotter
Then John is about recording everything from an internal topographical viewpoint. We enter the Kingdom by being born again. We have to learn and experience the "ways of the Water of God" this new way of living and flowing in the Spirit, of going where the Spirit leads, like John 7. But also NAILING the bottom line of the gospel in John 6....it's not about an outside God answering daily needs, nor a healing crusade.
It's about EATING Christ as opposed to living in Genesis 3 delusion.

IF largely the three other writers are writing in the external realms of "Some say it thundered". John is writing in the realm that says God spoke from heaven and said " Behold my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.".

Now if the whole population are 3/4 outer people , and they were designed that way so we could live in an outer world, then it seems to indicate, like Kafka, like poets, like caricaturists, like artists and musicians, like futurologists who advise kings and institutions like Patrick Dixon then there is a quarter of us who deal with the "Arriving on Platform 3/4" but not yet here department. Or in terms of bad things.....this is actually appearing from within right now inside mankind but it hasnt fully manifested and taken over yet.....
Bonhoeffer and Hitler
Or the prophet type rabbit in Watership Down.

The Hunger Artist by Franz Kafka is another such tale about "the artist in society" as bigwhigs at universities like to say.

It's the struggle to communicate what is actually on its way as a spontaneous move to an Empire run in heirarchy.
In this tale the Emperor is giving the message from the top, but it clearly isnt the sort of message that he would normally pass down a heirarchy, or why invite such a man from nowhere to be the envoy?

But this is the essential problem that all societies have lived with since Genesis 3 when the first heirarchy order virus seized the planet. All information comes through heirarchy, so who exactly are these nobody upstarts, this quarter of society without proper linear accreditation to give very critical information that will change our manner of life?
And that continual misunderstanding of why God even created this quartile continually impedes their journey.

HERE IS THIS MORNING'S THOUGHT.
Supposing that very impedance in the will of God is part of the process that all of us make......the messenger in the sheer struggle, similar to a wife in labour then giving birth,....and the VISUAL of a struggling Hunger Kuenstler or Hunger Artist to the rest of the public, that is actually part of the process of a whole community learning to turn inward, away from heirarchy living to inward based living which is Galatians 2.20 and the actual arrival of the Kingdom of God like a cloud the size of a man's hand.

Perhaps the arrival of the Kingdom of God is a man's hand doing the simplest of things like giving, and not letting the other hand even know, but out of consciousness and not of a sick orphan Genesis 3 appeasement.
Just a thought.



This is Mark Harman's 2011 translation
from his blogpost on New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/07/01/message-emperor-new-translation/

A Message from the Emperor

The emperor—it is said—sent to you, the one apart, the wretched subject, the tiny shadow that fled far, far from the imperial sun, precisely to you he sent a message from his deathbed. He bade the messenger kneel by his bed, and whispered the message in his ear. So greatly did he cherish it that he had him repeat it into his ear. With a nod of his head he confirmed the accuracy of the messenger’s words. And before the entire spectatorship of his death—all obstructing walls have been torn down and the great figures of the empire stand in a ring upon the broad, soaring exterior stairways—before all these he dispatched the messenger. The messenger set out at once; a strong, an indefatigable man; thrusting forward now this arm, now the other, he cleared a path though the crowd; every time he meets resistance he points to his breast, which bears the sign of the sun; and he moves forward easily, like no other. But the crowds are so vast; their dwellings know no bounds. If open country stretched before him, how he would fly, and indeed you might soon hear the magnificent knocking of his fists on your door. But instead, how uselessly he toils; he is still forcing his way through the chambers of the innermost palace; never will he overcome them; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to fight his way down the steps; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to cross the courtyard and, after the courtyard, the second enclosing outer palace, and again stairways and courtyards, and again a palace, and so on through thousands of years; and if he were to burst out at last through the outermost gate—but it can never, never happen—before him still lies the royal capital, the middle of the world, piled high in its sediment. Nobody reaches through here, least of all with a message from one who is dead. You, however, sit at your window and dream of the message when evening comes.

Kanye West- Jesus is King. What do you think?

I like this album. I am 61 and I don have the extensive immersion into rap that somebody listening to it for 20-30 years has. So I don't have the wealth of reference to the incredible blends that producers have managed to achieve. I do know something of the genius of the sound and commitment of Keith Flint of Prodigy in Firestarter. But he committed suicide in March 2019, so his creativity is cut short.

Eminem is so much more than just any rapper. Much of his songwriting is rightly acclaimed. Very powerful lyrics.

So within my limited knowledge I do like that these short sketches of where Kanye is now is very varied, and I feel creative. Perhaps some of its genius is that it is extremely cut down. Almost like those lightning sketches that Picasso did.

But certainly the Guardian don't wear any of that explanation

This Youtube captures more of the background to the current Kanye West.



Interestingly having heard more of this interview and not just the excerpts elsewhere, Kanye speaks of the Sunday Service. Zane Lowe asks him whether it is a church?
He replies that now it does have a pastor so it can be said to be a proper church.
This is how we were all taught, and in the past two weeks I have been addressing the issue of heirarchy, also the bombshell Jack Fortenberry dropped about 5 years before his death, in his booklet Corinthian Elders which appears earlier in this blog and Jack contacted me direct.
Nowhere, absolutely nowhere does it say a pastor is over a church.
Nor a vicar, which is a made up word.
Nor a priest , which is Old Testament. We are all now priests. A whole Kingdom of them if we accept the kingdom protocols of operating/.
What makes a church is a commitment to meet regularly together as two or more in a locality under the Lordship of Jesus Christ, and to whom will soon be added apostolic and Prophetic calling and foundation in the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Here is just one of my recent Facebook posts on the subject of  #heirarchy NOT.

Generally , like the New Covenant in general, which while grace, it is actually the total attack on the root of sin, and not just forgiveness of sins. The smashing of every last hold of the devil.
So when God says about the removal of heirarchy , and a new administration, and consider the ants....
It’s not deckchairs in the Bahamas, but it’s not feverish widget moving for a mad pyramid either!!!
The presence of the whole of the present order was only scaffolding to hold things together until the Kingdom took off.
The Kingdom is total Light
It’s nowhere to hide

“Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭1:5

And this is not like a cold forbidding law court.
It’s just the effect of Light.
If you live inside the force field of Light , truth , justice , agape,righteousness as a community

Sin just looks naff.
As we saw with Ananias and Sapphira, there’s a tendency to just drop dead .
The frequency itself is not death.
Far from it . It’s total life. Joy. Substance . Blessedness .
People are all out for your wellbeing.
Anything else doesn’t survive very well.

The Body is joined by that which each gift supplies. There are authoritative gifts that have specific functions.....pastor teacher prophet apostle evangelist administrator healers, specific intercessors,encouragers,hospitality gifts,discerners of spirits / deliverance,
Musician’s , singers

In the Spirit prophets and apostles lay the Temple foundations. This relates entirely with
Christ installing Himself in people in a thirdlevel way: knowledge and function of three forms of Word.... how Jesus lives in us as us according to the Mercy Seat
How the spiritual priesthood and Shekinah side of our life works.

An apostle has nothing to do with organising the rent of a church hall, a music group and enthusiastic preaching and people to listen .
That’s just humans carnal idea since Catholics and stone buildings up to the perceived idea today about starting a church.

It’s the Spirit foundations needed to reproduce people “ who worship in spirit and truth”
As opposed to people who walk in Genesis 3 inside contamination from hellfire.
Worship isn’t a song, it’s a walk.
A walk with the King.
A walk with this King as you in your branch form.
Because of the “ separate me” theology of all churches up until this present point, it’s not truly accurate to say there have been any real apostles and prophets yet.... maybe Norman Grubb was the first in modern times.
Because who can you point to that actually presented things as simply as John:

That which we have tasted touched and handled of this Word of Life we pass on to you. Walk in the light as we are in the light that you may have fellowship with us.

Nobody.
It’s all been about being born again and being baptised in the Spirit and gifted.
But that’s not the same as simply being Light in your being, because you have a single eye, then saying to folk..... we just live this way now. The Kingdom is at hand. Do you want some? Well stick around with us, and just as Jesus showed us how it worked , we’ll pass it on to you.

Nobody has been able to do that. Everybody has still been in separation thinking. It’s how people think and speak.
But it’s not Kingdom.

The Kingdom actually IS.
It doesn’t need a heirarchy to prop it up.
The Devils kingdom does because not being real , in terms of the Sole Source of Life, which is God, it needs to be held together by shame, force, terror, threats, bribery.

Gods Kingdom just is.
Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom.
Our mantra if we have one is Christ in us the hope of glory, or Galatians 2.20.

The earth is given to the sons of men, but so far we have given it to principalities and powers inside a whole fake reality known as
Living in the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil as separate beings.

We overcome the devil , through severing all shame by pleading the efficacious blood of the lamb, a legal overthrow of every right or claim of the devil through our disobedience to this planet

Through the Word of our testimony, speaking out what Christ has accomplished

And sticking with those first two no matter what happens, death if necessary.

But that laying down of life, in whatever form, is what breaks the Genesis 3 hold on the planet . Because you and I were given this planet, and we are legislating with Christ’s legislation and forcing it through ourselves as humans whose will must have its say, because God gave this planet to us to have our say.

Whatsoever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven. Whatsoever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

Be lifted up you ancient Genesis 3 doors and let the King of glory come in .
Who is this King of glory ?
The Lord of hosts, the armies of heaven, He is the King of glory.ps 24
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So if I was facing creating a City on a Hill in 9000 hectares of nowhere.....
apart from telling Kanye that Pentecostal Pioneer Alexander Dowie already built a place called the City of God in America.
Mother Basilea Schlink created a little LAND in Darmstadt called KANAAN. Still exists . They were mong the first pioneers in the 70s to react against DDT cropspraying and find natural alternatives.

Here's my Facebook take from an hour ago.

So Kanye West has been in talks with Trump about his 9000 hectares for building a sustainable city.
This afternoon BBC Radio4 had a programme based on Thomas More’s Utopia and the hells that these utopia’s become.
Yet there it is in the gospel, a City set upon a hill.
So what would I want to share with him before he even starts?
1. Our surroundings only match our own internal seeing and believing. Ezekiel 8.10 describes the graffiti on our inner walls.
2. Shock of shocks: life in the Body of Christ living as community is two truths at once.
It is great, but only in the measure it points the way to thirdlevel living. Or knowing Him who is from the beginning. Walking in the Light is actually the method God uses to propel willing people into a Galatians 2.20 foundation out of which they learn to live the whole of life. Together.
3. It’s how the disciples , coupled with learning ministry alongside Christ, became grounded in Christ to then be able to function as apostles.
4. Does a City on a hill exist? The devil smashed the first one, Jerusalem Church and Revelation 12 describes the pattern of history, from the individual pioneers of Gods Kingdom, Moses and Jesus as babies, right through all the God Moves in the past 2000 years .
It’s us or the devil. And the devil knows it and leaves nothing to chance. He is hellbent on our total destruction.
But we on the other hand are learning more and more about what humans are, how we operate, and the power that is given to us in Christ the Head.
5. Humans individually have to learn how to function in the New Covenant. The same for communities.
6. We live from the Tree of Life not a Tree of Knowledge LAWBOOK.
We have to learn the administration that comes out of heaven suitable to the summing up of times.
7 . Our bodies dont have a rule book, but they do have encoded instructions in the form of homeostasis, which is a system of natural regulation which supplies us with all that is needed to keep our bodies in great health, fighting off any disease.
8. Having a single eye means we see God as He is going on in City members..... and “not yet “City members too. The mature ability to see God only is the missing ingredient that keeps all CHRISTIAN communities from inward looking hedge building centres of paranoia , to clear seeing and open welcome centres with nevertheless precise solutions to people still moving in the “ independent self delusion “.... as indeed we all do at times.
9. A bit like human armies, entering into being part of the City on the Hill comes with almost unbelievable privileges, but if we then move away we are of all men most vulnerable.
Jesus said if having once cleaned the house of demons, if we do not continue to occupy the house to Gods Glory, not only will the one demon return but bring his many friends , and the last state will be worse than the first.
We see this in denominations. All sorts of Christian moves and communities.
God gives us over to our agendas if that’s what we really want. But having once proudly lifted His Name we are now in an incredibly dangerous situation.
10. Who can make it through? Once we learn the thirdlevel trick of seeing only what God is doing nothing is quite as terrorising ever again. We just carry on where we may have left off ,seeing and revering His Name in our hearts, seeking to lift His Name ever higher in the Earth.
Which is simply reattaching ourselves to the coming of the kingdom prayer
Our Father
Who IS in heaven
Make your ISNESS PRESENCE HOLY IN THE EARTH.

The Politics of Righteousness and how it operates

When democracy was launched as a secular idea by the tribe of Dan when they helped form Greece (See Julius Caesar’s writings),
it was always about an aristocratic tier.
Same with Magna Carta.
It took the Reformation to give any individual a sense of enough worth for democracy as we now know it to become more of a reality politically.
But as Daniel describes in his prophecy with the phrase “ feet of iron mixed with clay “ democracy as we now know it is a delusion.
Why?
Well for reasons that are embedded in the Lords Prayer.
The Kingdom , the reign of Christ , which is a Body Reign connected to the Head, cannot come until that central section becomes a reality.
Until those three visceral areas of our gut are dealt with: believing God our Supplier, love that is Agape and covenantal, and pulls on our flesh addressed, all of us can be bought, and collectively this produces the modern facade of democracy which is actually 666 on acid, because nobody can see or perceive it.
It’s like the level of corruption in Jesus trial endlessly being reproduced on a treadmill.
The iron represents the very same rule of the whole of the rest of the Empires of the Image of the Beast but now even more deadly because it has a “ sweet” clay front which pretends to be the voice of the people.
This current reality as Morris Cerullo always said in the phrase “ All truth is parallel “, is equally true in the church.
The Beast in the church and the Beast in the world is really the same heirarchy, but controlled funnily enough from both ends top and bottom.
By tax, and by tithing.
The will of the people can’t be thwarted or Revolution occurs, but at the same time the pyramid heirarchy influences and imposes its direction towards antichrist.
A democratic government say, cannot impose correctives to debt, because that makes it unpopular.
Modern churches cannot state the thirdlevel gospel of the Cross and Romans 6 to 8 and what the third Feast means because no congregation will pay for a Matthew 5 type message coupled with a “ rising in the Spirit message “, this runs counter to our present reality since Moses of pushing leadership up the mountain while we “ play below “.
Instead of a baptism in the Holy Spirit and fire, we have only the holy place version which never intends to share the Throne Room because Christ has seated us in the heavenlies.
If ministries ever shared reality as it is they would never be funded. If democratic leaders shared policy that was genuine they would never get tax paid at all and never be elected.
So both the tax and the heirarchy are part and parcel of the world spinning towards an Antichrist Armageddon.
The Kingdom and reign of Christ is itself the healing and deliverance and right order, that is expressed by Paul and alluded to by Jesus when He said “ consider the ants, who without ruler each do what is necessary”.

“In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭NASB‬‬ https://www.bible.com/bible/100/eph.1.7-10.nasb

“believing God our Supplier, love that is Agape and covenantal, and pulls on our flesh addressed, “

Actually IS THE KINGDOM.
Jesus said Seek first the Reign of God and His Righteousness

His form of Right Operating.

We got so stuck on the morality of it all we never realised the right operating included the abolition of the WHOLE PHONY TREE that started the reign of the Devil off over us and through our members over planet earth.

So when Romans 8 talks about the earth writhing in agony like childbirth until the sons of God come into their inheritance ,Paul isn’t joking , it is entirely linked.

And when the rapture or “ catching up of the saints “ is being talked about, the first thing it means is spiritually establishing within ourselves the new position we have been raised to in the heavenlies.

The Son of Man is a reality.
The Son of Man is the only Begotten Son of God. Adam was scooped up. Of the earth.
Jesus Christ was Divinely Begotten , but get this, sowed Himself into the earth to get.....

Wait for it.....

A multitude like unto Himself

Of now Divinely Begotten humans , born of the Spirit of God that are truly His Brethren of which He is not ashamed to call them such,
Becoming collectively the Son of Man with angels ascending and descending upon him. Jesus the Head, we the Body, and the Government being on His priestly shoulders.

The oil ( of the anointing) being upon the Head and flowing down on the collar of His robes. Psalm 133.

So yes. The reign of God is entirely political, but not human political.

Human political comes out of a phony Tree
A false delusion of “ seeing more than God “
And a hierarchical string pulling structure that is the problem
In church
In the world
In the angelic order.

If your Eye is healthy, your single eye seeing of only God going on, then your own personal body as well as everybody else’s in The Body,
Is filled with light.

In the reign of God it is its own politics.
In the reign of God it is first and foremost establishing a total repentance that leads to a Galatians 2.20 reality that then brings in its wake the original mandate.....
Fill the earth and subdue it.
Through a rightly functioning many membered Body.

How do we get there?
By praying the Lords Prayer
By establishing Gods manner of reign by rehearsing it 1 Corinthians 12 through 14
By receiving Gods ministry to trigger it:
Gifts of apostles prophets pastors teacher’s evangelists
By establishing the Church , the Pillar and Ground of Truth...instead of the Pillar and false Image of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil
By establishing like Jesus did, a collective who walk and live in the “ fellowship of the saints” inside a Psalm 123 reality and getting them to proliferate that reality....

“What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life- and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us- what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭NASB‬‬ https://www.bible.com/bible/100/1jn.1.1-3.nasb

How does this kingdom come?
Like a cloud the size of a mans hand.
It’s not nebulous, but it begins nebulous as it is materialising.
It is a reign coming down out of heaven. And in English that’s a great pun on the word reign.
Like Elijah we first see it as a heavenly reality , and what we see, Ezekiel 8 says and what the parable of the sower says, is our soil, our internal quantum growing machine, actually manifests as reality.

The Kingdom is coming in little prototypes.
Moses going up the mountain and receiving the Law.
Nehemiah rebuilding all the Gates and walls and then the people gathering within all that infrastructure to receive a reissuing of the Law in Nehemiah 8.
Jesus gathering 12 disciples , taking them from ignorance into the verses in 1 John 1 above, an ability to walk in Light,
To see and do what the Father is doing.
This formed the Thirdlevel Bridgehead of the new Community of God in the earth, then out through the pioneering of the Gentile Church.
Chalfont St Giles is a tiny picture for us of prayer gatherings of Miltons Cottage and William Penn’s cottage , a cloud the size of a mans hand, then becoming the third dimensional reality of an enormous continent and Penn having a whole State formed in his name.
Yes they reproduced after their own order of where they had reached, that is a very mixed order. But it is a picture of something.
That the reign of Christ is not a religious reign stuck in a Cathedral as is believed in Britain, but a people bold enough to bet their lives on it , took something out of a prayer meeting and built a continent out of an initial perception of a different order. Imagine what would have happened if they’d let God build the kind of internal infrastructure of the 12 apostles, but this time like St Paul , direct from the Throne Room itself of the now glorified Jesus Christ, and not just the Rabbi ex carpenter that the apostles knew .

Blessed are they that have not seen but have heard the word of your testimony , said Jesus. And He wasn’t joking.

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So what are we saying?
You can pray the Our Father until you are blue in the face like the Catholics and Anglicans, who by the way , in one collective under the Pope actually believe they are the reign of Christ into the earth.
But the Kingdom ain’t coming until people are “ caught up” into that very reign.
And the equipment to do that is in the Holy Spirit.
So unless an Anglican Church or Catholic Church is willing to go through the protocols established in Johns gospel :
John 3 be born again
John 4 receive the Spirit without measure
John 5 and 6 establish the walk of Living in the Father and eating Jesus Christ , not just as a wafer, but as a minute by minute counter action to Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil living
John 7 how you go up in secret , yet take over the whole show in a revelation of the Feast of Tabernacles.....
What earthly use is any of Anglicanism and Catholicism as it takes your money directly , or indirectly leasing all its land and buildings?
It doesn’t even obey or attempt to obey its own charter as laid down by the Messiah.
Just hoping to baptise infants who don’t know anything then claim that is the salvation of God in the earth, going to a building to be taught this, taking a wafer, then doing the same the next week, are they joking or something?
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These are posts from 17/10/2019 on Facebook.com/a.christopher.welch
Formatted for a mobile.
I write daily and for those that are interested out of 2400 friends or so . Some 200 have requested Facebook follower status, the rest depends on random feed algorithms.
Over ten years writing there and on this blog I could have easily filled my 5000 friend quotient allowance.  I find 2400 quite unmanageable which is why Facebook has developed "close friend" algorithms which must be something akin to the 120 that followed Jesus around, except that in this revolutionary and perhaps more kingdom format there is no heirarchy. I wrote a post last week precisely on this subject.

I am aware that blogreaders here may not be on Facebook and perhaps I should copy all or the best posts here for blogreaders. OR I could make the equivalent of a public page on Facebook which has no quotient cut off for numbers viewing the page.

Let me know your thoughts.

This blog was created on the numeric day of the THIRDLEVEL or THIRD DOOR 08.08.08
For 20 years I had had no opening anywhere since the first and secondlevel churches are practically "sealed environments" impenetrable or nearly to any regular in put from thirdlevel ministry.
So the blog was the first opening, then some 2400 friends , mostly of 40 and above , and largely blown out by their church experiences, began friending me on Facebook.
If you remember, Facebook began as college students and then became a young people's phenomenon , until they moved on, then many many women joined Facebook when it began. All of a sudden aroung 2008 -10 many men, and many disenfrachised Christian men and ministries found themselves able to share together online.

There is a certain genius in Facebook being very much a medium of older people talking, since up to now in our current history most Christians only reach the thirdlevel, or the doctrines that lead you in , much later in life. UNTIL.....around 2010.
John Crowder is very much a representative move of many many other younger people following him and others into a more mystical relationship of knowing Him who is from the Beginning.
If you read 1 John 2, this is the blueprint.
The Toronto Blessing generation were surely "normal " Biblically for having a relationship with God the Father even in their initial beginning stages of Christianity.
This has largely been lost for 2000 years, but was normal in New Testament times.

But what this now means is that the generation coming to the Lord now are being "caught up" into the throne room with the Father from the get go. And if you read Ephesians Chapter 1 and 2, that actually IS CHRISTIANITY and as lived in Corporate form as the Body with Jesus as the Head.
Brandon Barthrop

Adam Michael King  (A Kranichfield)